so we will have an initial skepticism. but we need to make sure it is justified. let's make sure we are destroying the planet before we start destroying our economy and our way of living. we certainly respect and welcome all perspectives and that should be the case on all sides of the debate. it is not just left and right. it is interesting how so many folks that are global warming skeptics come from environmental activist brack grounds -- background. i consider myself an environmentalist. i do travel quite a bit and every chance i get, when i travel, i want to go out. i want to see the lay of the land. i want to go hiking through the forest. i want to experience the beauty we have in this country and make sure we are good stewards of it. however, it does not mean we will just jump on board for every asserted environmental crisis. like i mentioned earlier, we want to see the proof in the pudding before we jump on board. it takes courage if you are concerned about the environment to critically examine some of the assertions, some of the empire mental activist assertions. sometimes you -- the environmental activist assertions. i am going to stand up for the truth. i am proud and honored to introduce a man who has done that throughout his life and continues today. dr. patrick moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for over 30 years. he is a founding member of greenpeace and served for nine years in greenpeace canada, seven years of director greenpeace international. as the leader of many campaigns, dr. moore was a driving force, shaping policy and direction while greenpeace became the largest environmental activist organization. in recent years, he has worked on consensusbuilding. as chair of the sustainable for street committee, he leads the process of developing the principles of sustainable for street which have been advocated by a majority of the industry. it is my pleasure to introduce to you dr. patrick moore. [applause] >> thank you. good morning everyone. thank you for inviting me here to give my opinion on the subject of climate change. this was my home for my first 14 years, a small logging camp on the northwest tip of an hoover island on the rainforest by the pacific. i did not know how lucky i was. i was sent off to vancouver for boarding school and then to the university of british columbia to study life sciences. in 1960, before the world was known to the general public, i discover the science of ecology, how all things are interrelated and how people are related to them. in the mid-1960's, at the height of the vietnam war, the height of the cold war, and the threat of all-out nuclear war and the growing concern for the environment, i was transformed into a radical environmental >> i can't seem to get it to go that way anymore. i found myself in a church basement with a like minded group planning a protest voyage against u.s. hydrogen bomb testing in alaska. we proved that a rag tag looking bunch could sale a leaky old boat across the pacific and change the course of history. that turned out to be the last hydrogen bomb the united states every detonated. president nixon canceled the remaining tests due to the overwhelming opposition. we were welcomed near my northern vancouver home where they made us runners of the tribe. for this began for green piece the tradition of the woreors of the rainbow. it's after a cree legend that says qun day when the sky falls back -- the people around the world will join together to save the earth. we named our ship the rainbow warrior and i spent the next 15 years on the full time movement around the world. next, we took on french atmospheric in the pacific. france was still detonated hydrogen booms in the early 1970's, sending radiation around the world. they were a little more difficult. it took some years to drive these tests underground. in 1985 under the president, french commander bombed and sank ed the boat, killing our photographer. going back again to the 1970's, here i am driving a small rubber boat in the north pacific in 1975. we confronted the whalers putting ourselves in front of the harpoons and our boats to rotect the fleeing whales -- whales. just four years later, factory whaling was banned in the north pacific and eventually in all of the world oceans. here i'm sitting on a baby seal to protect it from the hunters. i was arrested and hauled off to javepl. the seal was clubbed and skinned but this picture appeared in over 3,000 newspapers around the world the next morning. this eventually brought changes to the way canada manages its seal --. by the mid 1980's, we've grown. presidents hand prime ministers now spoke of the environment on a regular basis. but for me it was tyke to make a change. i have been against at least three or four things daver of my life for 15 years. i decided it was time to try and figure out what i was in favor of. i made the transition from the politics of confrontation which is basically about telling people what they should stop doing to the telling people what we should do instead. 27 billion people wake up every morning on this planet what real needs for food and energy and material. sustainability is partly continuing to provide for those needs. maybe getting a little more food and energy for people in the developing world, while at the same time constantly striving to educe the negative impact. i can go on forever but that's my story from the early years. [applause] why did i leave green piece after 15 years? when i began with green piece, we had a strong humanitarian orientation to stop nuclear war, to save civilization from destruction. by the time i left 15 years later, green piece had drifted into a position along with the rest of the movement as characterizing humans as the enemies of the earth and that was not for me. we are part of nature and from nature. greenpeace also begin to adopt positions i didn't agree with from a scientific point of view. ban chlorine worldwide became one of the slogans. it didn't matter i was trying to convince them that chlorine is the most important element in medicine, which it is. adding it to drirvinging water and 75% of our synthetic pharmaceuticals are chlorine based chemistry. anyway, i had to leave because of that. look at them today in the philippines with a mask on in a parade, golden rice and they are associated with death in order to scare parents about something that can actually prevent their children from dying by hundreds of thousands and millions every year. so, that's where grean peace went and i didn't wanting to there. i just tell you about forests for one second because it's the most important thing and it has a lot to do with climate. what is the most important renew -- wood is the most important renewable material and energy in -- world and it is the most my old friends in greenpeace are opposed to the most important renewable resource in the world, wood. we should be growing more trees and using more wood. many activists argue we should cut fewer trees and use less wood. but this is the correct environmental point of view. look at what greanpeast does to this. to take them 38 bureaucratic words to say it. that's what they call trees. while producing an annual sustained yield of timber, fiber or energy from the forest will generate the largest sustained mitigation benefit, means the best thing to do. in other words, they're saying use trees instead of using steel and concrete wherever you can and you will reduce energy consumption and you'll be using something renewable. greenpeace says they -- the easiest way and cheapest way to fight -- is to leave trees standing. when i challenged this, the greenpeace person said i didn't mean to put quotes around it, i was just paraphrasing. but that's a lie too. it isn't a paraphrase. the idc is saying grow more trees and use more words. six words. [applause] you know it all. it's extremely likely the human influence has been the dominant cause -- extremely likely does it make it more likely to put the word extremely in front of likely? they say yeah. they say that means 99% could very likely 90%, so they put%s along with adjectives to go along with likely. what it turns actually this is not a scientific word at all, likely. in the i.p.c.c. report it says it's an export judgment in the same paragraph. an expert judgment is not a fact, it is an opinion. this is an opinion. so let them have their opinion. but they should make it clear hat it's an opinion. this is when the global warming petition project 31,000 scientists and professionals all from the out. this isn't even a international list. i put my faith in the late michael creighton who said i'm certain there's too much certainty in the world. [laughter] this is where this certainty that they are right comes in and you cannot say you're certain that you're right when someone who is in authority says it's extremely likely. that isn't certainty. we all know about this. from here i'm going to show you what i show people because you all mostly know this. first, yes, co 2 is increasing in the atmosphere. let's look at the last billion years. there is actually three and a half billion years of climate change before this. we know pretty well this is what happened over the last billion. it's generally been warmer than it is today. 22 degrees average global temperature has been the norm. there have been four and a half ice ages during this period of thyme where temperature plummets on average down to 12 or 10 degrees celsius global average. today the global average is 14.5 degrees celsius. we are in a ice age, that's why both poles are covered in ice. people don't understand don't understand we are in an ice age now. it is generally a cold time in terms of the earth's history. why are there 300 million people in the united states and only 30 million people in canada? one word, cold. [laughter] sometimes i think that's why you et us have it. you saw this graph yesterday in a different format. 600 million years since modern light emerged. it shows very clearly there's no lock step correlation between co 2 and global temperature. at times they seem to be moving in similar direction. in other words, there seems to be correlation sometimes but as you know, correlation doesn't prove causation and you need to see a lot more of a lost relationship. it seems that temperatures bounded on the top and bottom probably got a lot of feedback forces that are creating a maximum and minimum and we're in one of those minimums right now. it shows right there for example that now it's 14.5 c and co 2 is about 400. over the last 600 million years has been around 2,000. about four to five times higher than it is today. that's why grean house growers purposely put the exhaust from their gas or woo heaters into the green house to increase growth by as much as 100%. so we can look forward to increasing product you havity in agriculture as many of you know. this is the graph -- if you accept this is true which is something that is like true because it has been warming for the last 100 years or so. they said we've been the dominant cause since the mid 20th century. that's 1950. nrds, they do not ascribe the rising temperature to human caused emissions. because we weren't emitting much back then. they only say it's the part between 1970 and the year 2000 that was caused by humans. then what caused the rise in temperature between 1910 and 1940 because it is identical in duration and size, .4 degrees over 30 years. they are both the same. it is not logical to be extremely likely that the second one is caused by us and the first one is caused by something else, which they don't really say what it is. so this to me demonstrates logical fallacy of claiming that we are the dominant cause of glaurm -- global warming. many of you have seen this. there has been no increase in global temperature for 17 years and 10 months and running. and then here is the united states for the last 10 years, the temperature has actual think declined by a significant amount. and this -- that polar vortex has something to do with this. no, i forget. that was warming. i shouldn't make that mistake again. and here, of course, is the arcic sea which has right now is -- arctic sea which is nearly a million square kilometers below its average since 1979 when we first started measuring it from a satellite. we have no idea what the extent of arctic sea ice was before them. but somehow or mother someone got there with a wooden boat in 1904. and a canadian ship got there in 1942 or 4 with a small engine, without a big icebreaker. who knows what it was like back then during the heat wave of the 1930's into the 1940's. here is the southern ocean where if you take the difference between the ant arctic and the arctic thousand is now nearly ore miles -- this is the sum total -- apparently this is also due to global warming, the increasing ex-extent in the ant arctic. so i get it, every thing is due .o global warming it's funny but our children are not taught logic. they are not taught what the scientific method is and they are taught that carbon is pollution. oh, carbon die oxide, sorry. they're told it's carbon now as if it was soot. this is sea livel rise post glaceyation. it all occurred between 16,000 and 17,000 years ago when the uge low alttude mid latitude glaciers all disappeared. and since then it's been a very slow gradual rise as more of the ice that was left in high mountains and the poles melts a little more, too. you saw this yesterday. this is tropical hurricane energy worldwide. al gore knows about this yet he continues to say it is going to be a devastation of the earth from massive hurricanes. no such thing. and you know this is the longest period in the history of measuring hurricanes since a category three or larger hurricane hit the continental united states. right now today is the longest period we've known. that one -- even the ipcc oes not sub scribe -- they say there is no evidence of an increase in extreme weather events related to the warming that has occurred. yet, the whole bunch of them perpetuate that every extreme weather event is because of us. this is why we will never be able to predict the future of the climate other than about three days out as john coleman who is coming up soon will probably tell you he knows. it's because of clouds, water the most important green house gas is the only one that occurs f both liquid and gas yuss phase in the atmosphere. water vapor with behaves in a -- incompletely different way with regard to solar energy. clouds can reflect the sun back. they can hold the heat in, depending on where they are and how thick they are. what computer model can predict the pattern of clouds in the world? it's impossible. that is why we will never be able to predict the future of climate and clouds are the wild card. many people believe as the earth warms and more water evaporates off the sea it will be cloudier and wetter and that will reflect more sunlight back. a t is just as plausible hypothesis as the fry in hell that we keep getting from the alarmist. co 2 is the most important nutrient for all life on earth. please teach the children this. [applause] when we started emitting co 2 it was down. now it's at 400. if it had gone down by the same amount as we've caused it to go up, plants would have started dying because plants start dying the reasons co 2 has fluctuate is because when the plants start dying they emit the co 2 and then it gets better again. so we've been skipping alon on top of this low point for co 2 for a long thyme now and it's about time somebody did something about it. [applause] the father of the guy high podgesess was an extreme pessimist about climate. he has changed his mind. he realized that if gaya is one great organism that maybe we're doing her bidding. it's like carlin said the reason people came into existence is -- the he earth wants reason people came into existence is because the atmosphere wants a little more carbon die oxide for the plant. who knows. % of f world energy -- 8 of world y -- 88% nergy. they want to stop this 88% of world energy produced by fossil fuels, and especially the part where oil is involved where there really aren't many subs tuesday because that's transportation, getting the food into the stores. 20%. lectric produces they're against wood, the most renewable in the world and they're against hydro. of all p to about 85% the renewable energy in the world and they're against it, even though it's reliable and cost effective. thankfully we buy enough flat screens from those guys that they could afford to build it without the world bank. and they did. replaces 40 coal fire power plants. it stops floods from killing thousands of people downstreams and it allows people to irrigate twice as much land of sustainable development. [applause] canada, we up north get 60% of our electricity from hydro. when the oil and coal and gas becomes scarce, this is what we're going to have to use. there is no question of that in my mind. so lets work on making it even safer than it is which is already safer than any other major energy technology we have. 21 countries producing 15%. this used nuclear field they want to dump in nevada is actually one of our most important sources. the russians have two of them. they just sold two to china last year. this is where we go. but we got lots of coal and oil and gas right now and it's cheaper, so maybe it will take a while. in 300 years from now, all of the fishing products will be decade and it will be just the good stuff left so it won't matter if it takes 300 years before we start using that, but there is 5,000 worth of nuclear energy in the 50 years of waste, so-called that we produced. nuclear and hydroare the only energy sources that can effectively replace fossil fuels if that's what you're worried about. these are too -- expensive for he grid. here's a cost effective use of solar energy to heat water, especially in sunny places. this is the wind energy going into the world that only the rich countries, mainly china in asia and europe and north america. these are things that are going to be left rusting on the ground. here's what happened with wind energy. one day you'll have 12,000 megawatts. the next day you got nothing. hat do you do on the nothing days? do you shut things down? no. you start a coal plant. in germany, co 2 emissions and coal consumption has increased for the last three years running while they call themselves the greenest energy country on earth. and in the united states because gas is replacing coal in some areas co 2 emegses have gone steadily in the last five years without any massive government intervention. green piece is fossil fuel dilemma. they knew $32 million ship they say is powered by the wind as if the wind is powering the super efficient electric motors. here they are protesting a coal plant being built on the shores of the netherlands with all these wind farms around it. and greenpeace says you should be like us and power yourself with the wind. don't build the coal. what's in the base of that boat? two big disease he ell engines. if the wind isn't blowing, they have to fire it up. or if it isn't glowing in the direction they want to go that day, they have to fire them that day. those windmills are wind assist for the coal plants when the wind is blowing. when it isn't, turn on the coal plant. just like greenpeace turns on their diesel engine. here's green peace protesting a russian rig with an oil powered ship. is this hypocrisy? i think so. let me talk for a moment about something in my country. here is one of the upgraders there which turns dirty oil -- they are cleaning the sand in .he world's largest oil spill when the rocky mountains heefed it is near there the surface now. it's got to be cleaned up, just like a gas station when a little fuel leaks. it cost a bill bucks to clean those up. we're making a profit to clean the oil up off the sand in canada. here's what oil sands mining in canada looks like. it doesn't look too pretty when you open up the earth to get the coal out. here's coal mining in the united states which produces 15 times as much co 2 emissions as all of the oil sands in canada. i know they're targeting this down here, too, but that there looks like pretty good energy to me. -- google p a google earth. they're saying the oil sands is destroying canada's forest. you can see it there barely. it's like a pimp pell on an elephant. there's edmonton where you can see edmonton can down there too. when are they going to reclaim edmonton or las vegas? when are they going to turn this back to a desert ecosystem. in the oil sand every inch of land must be put back to its native system. once they finished with that, they turned it into a biceyoon pasture run by the people who lived -- live nearby. this is all reclaimed mining land and so is this. and as an ecologist and environmentalist, this is good enough for me and it should be good enough for everybody. [applause] thank you very much for listening to me this morning. you can follow me on twitter at eco sense dot now. i have a big campaign going on around the world. i think you'll find it of interest. we're talking about all of the environmental issues there on eco sense, climate change, gmo's, nuclear energy and all those topics. i think you'll find it interesting if you're into following tweets to come and join the conversation with me. again, thank you very much for listening to me this morning. [applause] oh, i just want to mention one more thing. john l. smith if you are here, your las vegas review journal article is garbage. thank you. [applause] thank you. thanks very much. i appreciate it. > my, what a wonderful talk. see, it was worth getting up this early after your four hours of sleep. the one thing that i'm taking away from your talk more than isthing else is, "everything due to global warminging" when dr. moore said that, i thought of one of my favorite movie, the outlaw jersey whales. there's a scene where clint eastwood is leading his entourage across the country and he's chewing on tobacco and approaching the party comes this snake oil sase man and he has this suit on. he looks to the chief and says this snake oil is especially good for curing those who can't hold their liquor. then he turns to a young man and says it's very good at cleaning wounds. and josey, chewing on his tobacco says there's nothing it can't do. josey -- spits all over his white suit. sometimes i feel like that snake oil sales man is even more incredible than the alarmists. thank you so much. one of the things that often cracks me is often times i have folks in the media, they'll say but all the skeptics, they're so old as if this is a horrible thing. and there's a couple reasons it stands to reason. irst of all, if you're a young person looking for research dollars, you stick up your head and you say iccc is wrong. bam, no tenure for you. no funding for you. that's one reason why you see some of the younger folks kind f say let me bide my time. some people are speaking up. one thing that really jumps out at me about this atheism, how is it that folks who have been working in this field their entire lives, if you put in 40 years of experience, all of sudden, not only is it worth nothing, it's a negative. it has to do with experience. you have some folks who sl been working in the field for a long time. when you pull together that experience it mentions something. joe was mentioning at times past -- he knowsenturies his history. he has experience. he can put all these so-called alarms in proper context. that's why the folks who are skeptics look at this and say wait a minute, we've come across this before. we came across this with the global pooling scare. we come across this when temperatures were warming. it's not so much age and experience as it is courage. now, i have the pleasure this morning of introducing to you a man who has been working in the weather industry for more than 60 years. he has seen it all. he knows the proper context of weather and climate events. john coleman began his career in 1953 in illinois where he was a student at the university of illinois. he went on to work at stations in peoria, omaha, milwaukee and chicago before becoming the original weatherman on abc's "good morning america." in the early 1980's, he helped establish the weather channel. joined kusi in san diego 20 years ago and after 60 plus years in the industry, announced he was finally stepping back a little bit to enjoy his private life. just in case you think his retirement is slowing john down, just last month he made it to the cashier in a world series of poker event. you're my hero, john. my pleasure to introduce to you john coleman. [applause] thank you very much, and hello, everybody. this is spectacular to be here with you today. i want to begin first by asking joe and diane bask to stand up. ladies and gentlemen, these are the people who make this event possible. these are my biggest heroes. stand up, diane. stand up, diane. [applause] she may be out at the reception desk. now, while i was sitting at the table and having my breakfast here this morning, i was watching the live stream of this event on the internet on my cell phone. that's the way most of the world is watching video today. and i hope there are thousands and thousands of you watching this live stream, and i hope and pray that you will go to the heartland website and donate to joe and his organization for the hundreds of thousands of dollars that putting on these global warming conferences cost them. it is a spec -- spectacular achievement that they make it happen and they can use support from people around the world to keep this battle going, correct this bad science. in this room here today with me are my heroes. these men and women who have stepped forward and put aside their professional status and not worried about who respects them or likes them, but steps forward to say, ladies and gentlemen, there is bad science today. this global warming thing that and soopular politically popular with the environmentalists and the politicians, this bad science must be corrected. and they have had what it takes which is incredible fortitude to step forward. many of them are brilliant as we've just heard from patrick moore. and to these men and women, i tell you, i am honored to stand before you today and i greatly respect you. and i honor you. [applause] we have just been through the coldest winter in 30 years in the united states. [laughter] it snowed and it froze and thousands of temperature records were set across our country. and i couldn't resist sending out this tweet to the democratic party and the sierra club and to all the rest, al gore, my friend, where is the heck is your global warming? today, i am not going to talk about the science. patrick has done a beautiful job and we have had great scientists ith ph.d.'s give you a wonderful scientific presentation but instead i am going to cons trait as a journalist and i'm also a journalism graduate on my journalist investigation in which i determined that there is a story behind this case of science gone bad, a story that everybody needs to know and understand. how did we get into this awful spot today. and it begins with this man, the great roger reville. great man, a great scientist, a powerful leader. roger reville received a ph.d. from the university of california at berkeley in ocean og ravey. then he became the head of the cripps institute after serving in the united states navy. he is a director of scripps institute of ocean og ravey. he found a great way to improve that organization by obtaining -- this small organization blossomed into a large scientific organization of great significance. and then he came to a real problem in his life. what can you do next to keep this organization thriving? because the atomic test has come to an end. that government funding was coming to an end. he needed to do something more. and that's when he hired this man, from the university of chicago, a man who is an expert on carbon in the atmosphere. and with him, produced the seminole paper on global warming in 1957. and in this paper they looked at the increase and the atmospheric carbon dox i'd caused by burning of fossil fuels, coal and oil and gas and they asked the question if this was having an impact on the climate of the world. think about that period in our lives. many of you are not old enough to remember but i remember very well. our cities and small towns were all clogged in the winter with the smog that hung heavily over and little bits of carbon covered the walks and streets as our stokers burned dirty coal to heat us and get us through the winters. oh, my we have done a wonder in cleaning up our atmosphere since then. during that time it was easy for people to say oh, it must be something awful happening here. and that was it. that paper. ref ill r in 1957 by and souse, that was the beginning of the global warming frenzy. that's what we are attempting to battle and david versus gow lie ath for us as we fight this battle. we'll keep fighting. what happened next for mr. reville? e campaigned next to bring the university of california new campus to co-locate it with his scripps institution of ocean graphy and succeeded and brought that campus there. it was a huge accomplishment for this great man but then he suffered the greatest failure in his life. because he thought that he would become the chancellor of that university. he thought he would lead that great organization. nd instead, politics interfere and another person was selected as chancellor and here this great man was crushed and this is what happened next. institution of ography and moved to boston to start their organization for population studies. there he was in boston starting something brand-new but his work he had done at scripps on carbon was still very much on his mind and he brought -- brought it up in great detail in the first class he taught there. do you know who his student was in the first class he taught there? there he is, sitting in the front row of that classroom, al gore. souse had ille and begun, they transferred to al gore, the son son of a tobacco farmer and politician from tennessee. and al gore found a meaning for his life in that classroom. he was inspired by reville and he wrote a book "earth and balance." and with that book became elected to the united states senate and there in the united states senate held hearings where he brought scientists before the senate committees and amplified the cause of aloorm from global warming and said this is what we must do to correct it. we must spend our federal dollars on research to find ways to combat global warming and that money began to flow, the u.s. congress and al gore took charge of the entire scientific organization across this nation and its climateology research and focused it on global warming. d there is the center of the united states, al gore proudly stood up and proclaimed that roger reville was his mentor and his teacher, that he was the father of this global warming movement. and all of that was heard by this man, maurice strong, a former canadian oil executive who was now a brewer crat with the united nations and he organized the first environmental conference of the lm . in stock home -- stockho in 1972 based on what he had learned from al gore who based on what he had learned from roger reville and there it was born the intergovernment panel on climate change. so it all begun there with that one paper in 1957. it all spread through that hance meeting of roger reville and his young student al gore in boston at harvard and now it had taken over the united nations as well, and this was it. now we had a huge international global warming campaign under way. around the world scientists focused on this great cat astro fee unfolding because of man's use of fossil fuels. and there at their meetings was an old scientist -- it was ureaucrats, politicians, environmentalists. it was a lot of people with agendas of one world government led by taxation on the nations that burned fossil fuel to help the third world countries and this is it. this was it. and the scientists were invited to international conferences and glamorous places around the world and they compiled these great reports and issued them and published them and the entire focus was adopted by the press around the world and as we came -- it became a great concern. and meanwhile, al gore is writing his second book and you know what happened from that, at sci fy movie, and there's al gore with his academy award, an inveens truth. that's documentary. nd then al gore and the u.n. ipcc received the noble prize and it all began with that one innocent paper. the frenzy has reached the peak. the movie is shown in schools throughout the world and we have little chance to be heard. the media has totally adopted. but what happens to this man who started it all? he gave up on harvard. he gave up on boston. that up on the concept the earth is overpopulated and we must -- worry about population gronal and that entire center was closed at harvard and reville came back to ucsd in his old town of san diego and accepted a professorship. what did he do there? he wrote these letters to congressmen and senators and what did the letters say? you can read them. look, folks, they say, we have perhaps become overalarmed about global warming. we should give at least 20 years to study. we should be patient. we shouldn't take extreme measures today that will harm our civilization. relax. wait. study. don't panic. the letters went out from roger reville. his signature reached washington. the united states senator, congressmen refused the word from him. he said i have started this global warming movement. i'm trying to stop the frenzy. and then he joined with fred singer and wrote an article, a paper that appeared in the new scientific magazine cossmose and what did that article say? look, before you leap. and if conclude thad it is time for the scientific community to stand back and have a longer study to make sure that they have the data to justify taking any extreme measures to battle a global warming. he had taken a strong position, roger reville had. what did al gore say at that point? sen id, reville has gone i'll and he declared that the debate was over, and he still declares it today. and as he -- his great mentor he said he was senile, i wondered about that but i never got a chance to talk to rev reville about it. a heart attack and we lost him in 1991. and then a great debate raised. on the one side fred singer, who said reville had changed his mind and was trying to tell us that global warming was not a great crisis, but the scripps theitution of oceanography, reville family, the ipcc, members of the senate, congress and the environmental movement, said reville is the father of global warming, and, singer, you have done a bad thing here. well, i was able to interview dr. singer. and he joins us live from washington, d.c. dr. singer, what was roger reville's view of carbon dioxide as a green house gas when you coauthored aarticle? >> he was relaxed about it. he basically looked at this as a physical experiment. after he and his collaborators found that co 2 was increasing in the atmosphere, he and his colleagues were wonder if it would have any impact on climate. he wasn't about to make any judgment judgment on the matter until the data were in. of course, at that time by 1990, we had about more than 10 years worth of satellite data in the sat -- and the satellites didn't show any additional warming. this is what actually set off my own thinking on the matter. i wonder what was going on. a r all, carbon dioxide is green house gas. it's increasing. there's no question about that. where is the warming? well, it turns out that the atmosphere is much more mplicated than the climate morals believe and the warming is offset probably by a kind of negative feedback that comes from clouds and water in the atmosphere. >> are you saying back in 1990 that reville was somewhat regretful of the excitement that he had caused about global warming? >> reville at that time had written some letters to his congressmen and also to senator worth telling him to calm down, not get excited about it. but wait and see what would happen to the climate. in other words, he was telling him, don't assume that things are going to warm up just because the models say so. reville was very skeptical of climate models. i was always more optimistic hoping that they would improve enough so they could resimulate what's going on in the atmosphere. reville had not much faith in models. >> well, since that thyme many people have said you were the one who manipulated reville, that you kind of calmed him down or changed his feelings in the way that you put that article together, that gore said he was a senile old man when you coauthored that paper, and therefore you took your position on co 2 and more or less assigned it to reville and they put a lot of blame on you. >> well, that's absolutely untrue. first of all, if you knew reville, you would know that he was sharp to the very, very end and you could not change his mind. he knew what he was doing all the time. and furthermore, we have written proof. we had the letters he wrote to his congressman and to his senator. we have an interview in om knee magazine. there's plenty of evidence to show he was quite independent minded and that he didn't tpwhreff in global warming until the data would show him a warming. >> that full interview can be seen on my website. but it's perfectly clear that singer was sure that there was a real change in heart in roger reville, a man who had started the global warming movement. but at the scripps institution f oceanography, it continued strongly there. and they established the first roger reville award. nd who got that award? let me see if i can go back. can you clear the video back there? this was the tv coverage in 2009 of that award to al gore who stood before the group, the scripps -- >> and former vice president al gore was honored tonight. he was given an award in recognition of his environmental work. kusi's tom jordian is live in la jola with more on that. >> al dwor was the first ever ecipient of the roger ref -- reville award. a welcome for a man continuing his campaign on environmental awareness and protection. frormer vice president al gore talked about his roger reville prize. >> i want to express my very deep and genuine gratitude for this honor. >> the award presented at this 100th marking the birthday of reville, go was a student of his in the 1960's and credits him for igniting his passion of the environment. >> as a former student, still a student trying to learn but still inspired by a great teacher who was a great scientist and a great man. >> ronler reville's work back in the 1960's was at the time considered revolutionary. today, many scientists consider that work almost pathetic. >> we were told it was a very short report saying the climate change is becoming an issue, the earth is heating up and therefore something needs to be done by that. >> al gore says he was deeply moved by reville's work. a noble peace prizewinner, all from his work on the environment. now he adds a new zingtwished and personal honor to that list. >> i am deeply grateful. >> and tonight's celebration was part of three days of celebration of the life of roger reville. he would have been 100 years old tomorrow. we are live in la jolla, kusi news. >> john coleman believes there is no significant man-made global warming and he travels the nation speaking on the topic. >> at that point i got the opportunity for the first time to tell the story of roger reville and that global warming campaign on television. and now today standing here would you i wonder, where roger reville be today if he were alive. here in las vegas, sitting proudly besides my great hero fred singer, and joining this conference and probably receiving an award here, or would he be somewhere sequestered in hiding with al gore? talking about we skeptics. e deniers. and the tons and tons of carbon that we are emitting into the atmosphere and destroying the climate of earth. where would roger reville be today? i think i would be able to look down and say dr. reville, we honor you. as i conclude my presentation, i would like to take just a moment to speak to those probably not in this room, but those who are watching streaming or perhaps watching the rebroadcast of this . cspan or on youtube young people who love this earth and who wonder if we who deny global warming are destroying our planet, i want you to know that we, all of us here today, honor and love this planet as muchas do. it's water and its air are precious to us and preserving it is vital to us. and if we thought that our activity in having this magnificent civilization of cell phones and computers and smart tv's and jet airplanes and fancy cars, if we thought tv and air-conditioning and computer communications so we could read wikipedia or look something up on google, if we thought that was destroying our climate, we would stop. and when i speak about this and tell these young people about my love of earth, they say to me, ok, let's say you're right, that there isn't any global warming crisis. but still, shouldn't we protect our environment, get rid of fossil fuels? and i say to them, that they will come -- that day will come and i look forward to you as much as you. yes. but that's years from now. the scientificth breakthroughs and if we took we're .5 bhl a year that wasting studying the climate impact on insects today and other such silliness and put it to research to find new 21st century forms of energy, that time might not be 30 years, but might be 15. ♪ but look how much we've clean the atmosphere already with our reformulated gasoline, with our totally redone injection systems nd cad litic converters making engines burn relatively cleanly. we have come so far. support the scientists and we will all love planet earth together. thank you for letting me speak here today. thank you very much. [applause] thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. >> a group of former epa administrators testified in june on the government authority to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. they said the science linking human activity to global warming is indisputable. this portion of the hearing begins with chairman's sheldon whitehouse introducing the witnesses. >> the honorable william was the inaugural epa administrator under president nixon and was brought back as epa administrator under president reagan. he banned the use of the pesticide ddt. lee thomas served under president reagan

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