way of life. this is a generational struggle that demands a strategy and the will to win. i will continue to work every day to ensure our party and our nation takes on this fight. i'm suspending my campaign, but never my commitment to achieving security through strength for the american people. god bless our fighting men and women and god bless america. >> c-span takes you on the road to the white house, best access to the candidates at town hall meetings, speeches, meetings, rallies and meet-and-greets. we're taking your comments on twitter, facebook and by phone. as always, every campaign event we cover is on our web site, cspan.org. >> tonight on c-span, democratic presidential candidate martin o'malley campaigns in new hampshire, and we conclude with a look at the supreme court's 1973 decision, roe v. wade. and later, discussing antimuslim attitudes in the u.s. presidential candidate martin o'malley met today. this is an hour [applaus [applause]. >> hey, thank you. i heard you were having a party. all you needed was a presidential candidate for it to feel like new hampshire. i thought i'd come by. and you invited c-span and everything, huh. where should i speak from? >> can i get y'all anything? [laughter] good to see you again, my friend. town chairman, and supporting martin o'malley for president. thank you. is anybody going to kick us off here or do i just jump in? looks like i just jump in. i want to thank you all for being here. william, did you entertain earlier? >> i tried. i want to thank my son, william o'malley, for being up here. [applause] what have you guys discussed already, will? >> i didn't get to make as many rounds as i usually do, but it seems like everyone is pretty fired up. fired up for you to become our preside preside president. mr. o'malley: i want to thank you for being here. many of us who feel that big money and tight elections determined the race before anybody's voted. the good news is here in new hampshire, every individual person still matters and one of the things i know about the people of new hampshire is that you insist on meeting with each of us two, three, four or five times before you make the decision, right? [laughter] you're not unlike the other americans who have this weighted responsibility of being one of the first in the nation and that is your brothers and sisters in the state of iowa. and i was recently in fairfield, iowa, true story. a woman said to me, mr. o'malley, this is my third time seeing you. and i said, well, how am i doing? and she said, you're doing well. i'm seeing a lot of growth. [laughter] and i said, a lot of growth? is that how you decide who you're going to support? she says, as a matter of fact, my husband go to see you all as many times as we can and whichever one grows the most, that's who we vote for come the election, so thank you for being here and thank you for what you do for our country. i consider it a great honor, that i am able to offer a candidacy and a better way forward for our country, especially in these times. and look, i know when a man comes before you, when any person stands before you and says, he's running for president, and i have 7% national support and the election is 45 days away, and i tell you, the campaign is going really well, but there's a fine line between delusion and imagination. [laughter] but i'm not imagining this. the phrases i hear all throughout our country, everywhere i've gone for the last year and-a-half are the phrases "new leadership" and "getting things done." we understand at a gut level that as a nation we need to be able to solve our problems and make our nation stronger if we have any hope of giving our children a future where it's safer, healthier, and where there's more opportunity rather than less. i am the only candidate -- did any of you watch the debate last night? . [applause] thank you for doing that. 8 million people watched, even though it was on the saturday before christmas >> and you did a great job. mr. o'malley: thank you. god bless you for your discerning judgment on candidates. [laughter] how many of you have to be honest that you had to wrestle the channel changer away from your kids. i was on that stage, with 15 years of experience as governor of maryland, getting things done, bringing people together, taking actions. not words and speeches, but in order to make a better future, we have to make change. that's what i did. i ran for mayor of baltimore in 1999, not because our city was doing well, but because we had big challenges and was divided. we came together as a city with new leadership to put our city on a better path. we weren't able to be immune from setbacks but we were able to save a lot of lives by driving down overdose deaths and driving down violent crime. as governor, no sooner than i was sworn in, we were hit with that recession. instead of trying to cut our way to prosperity, we took actions to include more of our people more fully in the economic, the social, and the plaintiff -- political life of our state. what am i talking about? passing a living wage, raising the minimum wage, raising the goals of minority and business women inclusion to the highest of any state in the country and actually exceeding them even in a recession. invest more in education than less, making our public schools the best in america five years in a row, going four years in a row without a penny increase to education, driving down 30-year lows, our incarceration rate to 20-year lows. those are actions, not words, and here's our action for you, we made it easier for people to vote instead of harder to vote. what a novel idea. we passed marriage equality. we passed the dream act. we defended both of them at the ballot and when all of those kids were slaughtered in the classroom in connecticut, we came together and passed comprehensive gun safety legislation with a ban on assault weapons. [applause] and many of the things we got done, we did not get done on the first try, but we never gave up. we became the first state in the union south of the mason dixon line to abolish the death penalty. get this, while defending a aaa bomb rating in the highest in america, the u.s. chamber of commerce, which hardly never says nice things about democratdemocrat ic governors in any state, number 1 for innovation and entrepreneurship. we created a faster job creation coming out of the recession than our neighbors north or south. i share all of those things with you, because these are all actions, not words, but actions, and that's what our country needs right now. look, eight years ago, our nation was this close to the second great depression because of reckless behavior on wall street. we put forward a new president in barack obama to bring our country forward, right? that's what he does done. 69 months in a row, positive job growth, and our country is doing better. let's applaud for that. [applause] but the hard truth we have to know if we're going to win credibility in this election in the fall and build upon president obama's good works is that 70% of us today are earning the same or less than we were 12 years ago. so we still have work to do. we elected a president, not a magician, and this is urgent work. you and i are part of the living, self-creating mystery called the united states of america. the promise that's at the heart of that mystery is actually a very real and concrete thing. it is the promise that says, wherever you start in our country, you start. but through your own hard work, your own grit, your own talent, your own determination, your own love of family, you should be able to get ahead when you work hard. that's what's earned us the title, the brand, if you will, that no other nation has, of being the land of opportunity, because we take actions in every generation to include more people more fully. the freedom of exodus was not merely freedom of oppression, was it? it was a freedom for full participation. so the good news for us is this, we need only return to our true selves as americans. and that means understanding and remembering that our economy is not money, it's people. it's all of our people. and, therefore, we must do three things consistent with the actions our parents and grandparents took in our past in order to give our kids a better future. number 1, we have to restore common sense wage and labor policies back to the center of our economic choices. what does that mean? that means raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour, however we can, wherever we can. it means paying overtime pay for overtime work. it means making real finally the promise of equal pay for equal work for men and women. [applause] it means joining other developed nations of the world by passing paid family leave. [applause] it means making it easier and not harder for people to join labor unions and bargaining collectively for better wages because that helps all of us. if you want to get wages to go up again in our country, one other important action, is to get 11 million of our neighbors out of the underground shadow economy where they oftentimes work off the books and into the full light of an open american society by passing comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship. [applause] the second thing that we need to do, we'll return to more accurately, is look, no nation ever cut its way to prosperity. great countries don't build up generational wealth and expand generational opportunity by locking cash in a closet, do we? we invest in the things that actually pay a return over the generations. what are they? not only investment in research development, human solutions to human problems, more broadly spread, but also, our infrastructure. that which connects us. that means mass transit. that means roads and bridges and increasingly cyber infrastructure upon which our economy depends. and it also means investing in the talents and the education levels of our people. that's what we've always done. other nations have emulated us, and we've turned away from our true selves because we're now the only nation on the planet, only nation, that saddles our graduating kids to say get that diploma in college with a lifetime of debt. we're the only ones that do that now. look how far the pendulum swung. my dad went to college on a g.i. bill. my daughters went to college on a mountain of bills. and it doesn't need to be this way. i put forward a plan to move us to debt-free college in the next five years. it's not only good for the kids going to college. it's good for our whole economy. it's what makes our economy grow and what makes our economy go. finally, the great challenges of our time. look, in every generation, we face challenges as a nation, and we have been able to overcome these challenges, oftentimes making them our opportunity, not by turning upon one another, but by turning to one another. one of the biggest challenges we face is -- i'm going to touch on two -- is climate change. the greatest business opportunity to come to the united states in 100 years. i don't know about you, but i was very, very proud of our country at the recent negotiations in paris, 186 nations agreed to move forward to a clean energy future. [applause] i'm the only candidate, so far, but i'm still hopeful -- i'm the only candidate so far to put forward a plan to move into 100% clean electric energy grid by 2050 and create a million jobs along the way in doing that. the second big challenge, the changing nature of conflict that we were all so tragically reminded of in the recent attacks in san bernardino. the nature of warfare has changed. september 11 is not some one-off event. it was the begin ining of what will likely be a century of the change nature of warfare, where conflicts happen in gray zones, where networks of terror attack democracies, and democracies have to learn to become more quickly adaptive in order to protect their citizens. our immune systems in our bodies, think of this. our immune systems are able to protect us, not because it outnumbers the number of bad bugs in the world, but it's more reactive, it gets in more quickly and gets inside the turning radius of a virus and protects us. we have a lot of work to do to move from the way we used to gather intelligence when it was shared only on a need-to-know basis. instead, it's changed to a culture of where there's an imperative to share. but this has been my background. as governor, the nation's governors, chose me year in and year out to be one of the leaders on homeland security, preparedness, the capacities that cities and states need to develop to protect us here on the homeland. but the recent attacks have brought to the floor another sort of danger we face and that is the danger and the vulnerability as a democracy that we face when in the wake of such an attack, unscrupulous politicians try to turn us upon one another, and what i'm talking about are the increasingly more overt, fascist appeals. a one mr. donald trump, who is sadly leading right now in the polls for the party of lincoln. abraham lincoln would be rolling over in his grave right now, a man who asserted our common humanity to hear the way that donald trump is scape-goating muslim americans, american muslims. i said last night in the debate, and i share with you, i have a good friend at home that was putting his 10-year-old and 12-year-old boys to bed and his dad had come here in 1963, the year i was born, immigrated from a rural part of india, and they're families of the muslim faith. and this 10-year-old boy said to him, dad, where will we go if donald trump gets elected and we're forced to move out of our home? this is all very, very real. the dad could not go to sleep that night and wrote a beautiful two-page letter to his sons about everything our country is about. the belief that we're all in this together. our belief in the dignity of every person. our faith that because we are one and our cause is one, that if we help each other, we can succeed, we can overcome any challenge. these are the things that make us great as a country. these are the greatest powers that we have, in fact, as a people, and it's these values and these freedoms that need to be called out and summoned forward in order for us to meet the challenges of our times. look, i need your help. i have always been drawn to a tough fight. and there's some people who say to me as they look at the odds and they look at this race, man, this is a tough fight. yeah, i know. i kind of like a tough fight. i think the toughness of the fight is the way god is showing us that we have something worth something. our country's future is worth saving. our children's dream of the american future is worth saving. this planet is worth saving and the world is looking up at us to step up as americans to help. i need your help, and i know in new hampshire, you can make that happen. thanks a lot. [applause] >> okay, the fun part. questions and answers. and by golly, i do have answers. i'm going to search for answers. yes, ma'am. tell us your name >> my name is denise. thank you very much for coming. mr. o'malley: oh, my honor. thank you for coming. >> my question is, i really like your ideas, but we have a congress that, as you know, we have republicans that obviously it takes a lot more than ideas to get anything past them. so tell me how you would be able to work with congress to be able to get any of these great ideas passed. governor o'malley: yes, you asked the recurring congress question. everywhere i go. people ask about congress. all of us are so deeply concerned about what appears to be the inability of our congress to get anything done. i was talking to a high-ranking judicial official from your own state, whose name shall remain nameless. he said, i honestly believe that if the constitution were to put to a vote before this particular congress, they wouldn't be able to pass it. so there are three of us running in our party for this work. i don't have an easy weapon, but i can tell you this, we've been through divided times like this before and we've come through these times before, because when americans are faced with this sort of partisan grid lock, they instinctively understand that we need new leadership. not leadership that's going to divide us based on some old ideology. not leadership that says all republicans are my enemies, famously as secretary clinton said in that debate, but leadership that knows how to bring people together and get things done, and that's what i've done. some of the things i've mentioned to you that we got done in maryland, we only accomplished because of some of the republican votes. marriage equality, took us three times, and we only got it done with some republican votes. repealing of that, we only got it done with some republican votes. 65% of the bills i put forward were supported by majority republican support needed in the house and the senate in my own state. so let me give you one other consoling thought. just as you and i can agree we're not going to be here forever, neither will this republican congress. [laughter] so we have an opportunity every two years to hit the reset button here, and, yeah, we were sadled -- yes, we were saddled with a very unrepresented house of representatives, when the congressional borders were redrawn after we lost a third of democratic governors. but that redistricting is also coming up again and i think more and more states are moving to bipartisan redistricting commissions and in the meantime, we have to elect a leader who can strengthen again what is called the strength of our soft ties, be able to talk to people as people, understand where they're coming from, appreciate the fact that we're all in this together. and our republicans aren't our enemies. they're colleagues at work. they're relatives. they're our uncles. yes, sir? >> jeff ackley and the eco and license charitable organization. we're dawning age of man kind. we're ending fossil fuel and ending the age. the most frustrating thing in the debate. governor o'malley: i have a list. [laughter] >> you're about to hit my list. i got to tell you, not one question about climate change. so i would love -- you know what, i would love -- next time, just ask the question, are you guys going to ask one question about climate change? certainly, you'll get a huge ovation, i mean -- governor o'malley: the only mention in the debate of climate change and immigration reform came in my closing, as i'm sitting back stage, i'm thinking, really, we spent 15 minutes talking about their e-mail hacking? yeah, maddening for me, too. what's another one you're frustrated about? >> my other one is this -- governor o'malley: maybe we should have a debate sole dedicated to the eco and light. [applause] actually said we should have the debate about climate change. maybe have rachel maddow do a forum, better yet. then we get equal time, right, tom? put some pressure on the republicans, seriously. >> think if we did the whole debate on it. is there any question -- can you imagine walking out of those debates going, i should have said this or that. or the next day -- oh -- yeah like every time. governor o'malley: trial lawyers have -- a friend of mine told me that your father was a trial attorney and he used to say the best closing arguments i make are the ones in the car on the ride home after the trial is over. i should have said this, i should have done that. but i really do wish that we had talked about climate change last night. i wish we had talked about immigration reform. and, of course -- and i also would have liked to have shared what we were doing that actually worked. can i give you my answer that i would have given on healthcare if i weren't prevented from giving my answer? here's my answer on healthcare. in our state, thanks in part to the affordable care act, thanks to the application of big data and an all-payer system that we've had for a while where we set hospital rates for all pairs, we were able to get away with it, allowed us to move all 46 of our acute care hospitals out of a fee for service into global payments. which means for all their medicare and medicaid patients, they get a payment based on what we know historically is the -- is what it costs to treat their people, and if they can reduce the avoidable hospital admissions, then they get to share in those savings. and last year, we saved $110 million by reducing affordable hospital room admissions by 11.5%, and it was reported recently in the new england journal of medicine, we're the only state that's doing this. but there's no reason we should be the only state that does this. so to reduce the cost of healthcare by reducing the institutional care, that's really, you know, that doesn't contribute to keeping our people well. that's what i would have said on healthcare. on the climate stuff, governor, going to the greenhouse reduction bill, 20% by 2025. we took our renewable pooshl standard up, and i believe the key here is about measuring performance, measuring outcomes, letting everybody see the dashboard and the thermometer and the leading actions that actually drive us to goal. this is an engineering challenge. we didn't land a man on the moon with an all the above strategy, did we? that was an engineering challenge and this, too, is an engineering challenge. i encourage you to call for a debate entirely on america's energy future and america's role in the world. it could be a pretty cool debate. yes, i can't see beyond the beautifully bright kitchen spot light. no doubt they have been installed for every presidential candidate to light your house on a sunday. >> i'm lauren. you made two comments, which i really want to applaud you on, in particular. one was you were the only presidential candidate there that night that pointed out that everybody in the room ultimately has the same goal come november and i really thank you for pointing out that while right now we may be deciding which of the three of you is the best candidate, the important thing is once the primary process is done, we do all have the same goals so thank you for reminding people about that. that was great. the second thing is you talked about the importance of a certain muppet that seems to be parroting a lot of nonsense, and i don't choose to use that name because it doesn't sit well with me. you made the comment, if that person needed to start a list, he could start with you. i'm right there with you. i really appreciate that, as a descendant of jewish, my family would not be here, had they not made it before it got really bad and before the rest of my family was denied entry into this country. and the critical factor for so many people of knowing that this truly is a safe haven and we have a responsibility to bring one another together, so i really appreciate that. my one question is, who's going to be your vice presidential candidate? [laughter] governor o'malley: well, that remains to be determined. whatever candidate can help us best win the campaign in the fall, that will be my vice presidential candidate. >> it also means we continue to --e [indiscernible] do you feel there is anything you can do or perhaps the legislative branch could do that might constructively address that problem? >> thank you. >> it's a huge problem. there is a bill dick durbin sponsored that i'm very supportive of that i think would go a long way towards preventing those sorts of inversions. inversions are a polite way of saying tax avoidance. i also think we make a mistake when we allow people -- to defer the payment of those taxes until they repatriate the dollars. >> i have a follow-up closely related. >> if you have answers, hop up. haveme economic pundits recently suggested that if there amnesty, those funds could be brought back to the united states and pay a lesser tax been standard. also, i recommend a different taxing structure as to encourage -- more particularly, to .iscourage inversions i recognize that may seem like me being chicken, but isn't it moving in that direction might discourage more inversions, may preserve more employment opportunities in the united states, and actually get taxes? gov. o'malley: yes, provided the code doesn't remain riddled with swiss cheese and all sorts of exemptions that allow companies like ge pay zero. i think the durbin bill would go a long way on these inversions. as far as the amnesty goes, i think the one-time amnesty isn't a good idea. i think we need to solve this challenge moving forward. it would be great to have a simplified corporate tax with fewer loopholes, and lower, but that a part of this has to do with not allowing them to offshore the profits and leave them parked out there. differing the payment of taxes until tax amnesty or until they bring them home, other nations don't do that, and yet there are a lot of nations that don't do any attempt to fax -- to tax foreign-earned profits. >> on taxes, on the corporate side, the highest personal tax rate has come down drastically since the late 1970's. gov. o'malley: under ronald reagan, the highest marginal rate was 70%. >> at the meantime, the wealth has been concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. what i've noticed here in new hampshire at the same time, for example, is the cost per semester at unh has gone up 10 times. aid to our university system has decreased dramatically. what are you going to do with the tax code? what do you think is equitable? gov. o'malley: i said this last night in the debate. our budget is roughly $3.2 trillion on an annualized basis, our federal government. twoe did two things, just things, what would those two things be? one would be to raise the highest marginal rate on incomes above $1 million to 45%. the second one would be to tax capital gains for the most part just like you tax earnings from sweat and hard work and other endeavors. if you did those things, conservatively, we would generate $800 billion over the can payyears, and that for not only debt-free college for every family but a lot of other things, as well. if i could do just two things, if we had a congress that were reasonable, those are the two things i would suggest, and in the meantime, there are other ideas like the transaction tax on wall street trade, if you wanted to find one singular thing. that could be something that could pave the carried interest -- that could pay. ,he carried interest loopholes i want to use that to pay to make national service an option for anyone who chooses. >> hello, jen williams. last night, you were the first person, i believe, on the debate stage to say that donald trump's remarks were being used by isis to recruit people into terrorism. this morning on "meet the press," i know you were elsewhere, and chuck todd in his conversation with donald trump showed a clip of hillary saying the exact same thing, and donald trump saying, she can't prove it. there's no clip. there is no whatever. since thoseyou, fact check kind of things are going to come up -- gov. : oh yeah.ov. o'malley >> if you could produce something that actually supported your comments last ,ight, which i believe, frankly i think it would get you some much needed airtime and space in the media, where i think they've been quite unfair. gov. o'malley: then hillary wouldn't know what to say next week. >> that's ok. i will let hillary worry about hillary. here is what i said. here is what i've been saying. donald trump is playing right into the hands of isil propaganda by trying to paint as a war of western democracies versus the muslim faith. when donald trump starts targeting americans based on their faith as american muslims, he plays into their hands. i think hillary said there was a training video or something. i'm not aware of any training video. it wouldn't surprise me, but i'm not aware of the training video. i think all of us as thinking people understand that his rhetoric plays into their hands. that is their story, that they are at war with western democracies who are trying to kill a great world religion, even though they are perverting that world religion by their genocidal behavior. yes, sir? >> on just wondering if you have any plans of what you think could be done to eliminate or less and the huge influence of money in the political process. gov. o'malley: yes, sure. let me talk about this. i put forward 15 strategic goals to move our country forward, and one of them is publicly-finance congressional elections in the next five years. what ourmeful that proud republic does to decent men and women of both parties. they run for congress, and as soon as they get elected, they get pulled aside, a man or woman says, you are a man or woman of congress, and now you're going to be a telemarketer for 20 hours a week. i think the public is way ahead of politicians. i think it's a small price to pay to have publicly-financed congressional elections. i have gone the publicly-financed route when it comes to matching funds in this presidential campaign. i have the only one who has chosen to go the publicly-financed route. in our own state, we had a public financing mechanism we passed for governor's, and in many cities, they are moving with publicly-financed city council elections. people are kind of like in that. that is what i believe we should do, and i also believe, instead of the democratic party chair telling us we should not have more debates, wouldn't it be great if the party's leadership was calling upon all 50 states to organize around two important goals, two constitutional amendments? let's dialogue. let's reach a deeper understanding that precedes better action. the two that i would choose, if debbie wasserman schultz were asking me for suggestions, would be to pass a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to vote and a constitutional amendment that overturns citizens united. [applause] we've got to organize. yes, you may get the last one. >> just talking about that -- gov. o'malley: tell me your name. >> i am sarah from somersworth. gov. o'malley: specifically then, if guaranteeing the right to vote, automatically registration, and what would you do about the electoral college? a lot of people feel that is part of the problem. gov. o'malley: i love the automatic registration thing. i wish i thought of that when i was governor or pushed it while i was still there. i love the idea of automatic registration. in terms of the electoral college, do you know what state was the first state to pass the bill that would go to popular elections? maryland. we were the first state to pass that movement by popular vote that would say that your state's electoral votes go to whoever the popular vote winner was. when you get a certain number of states to do it, that is the thinking behind that movement. i would be in favor of that, too. thank you guys very much. [applause] i appreciate being here. are you doing one more? >> she said i could. [indiscernible] when you were in maryland, you allowed fracking. gov. o'malley: i didn't, but bernie sanders' campaign said you did. -- we did. -- on my the highest way out of office -- we never allowed fracking in my state while i was governor. >> that's different from what i read, and it wasn't on bernie's website. gov. o'malley: i never allowed fracking in our state when i was governor. in fact, we did commission a study on it to figure out how we could get zero methane, that sort of regulation to protect our streams. in our watershed of the chesapeake bay, other people were opening up the floodgates. before i left office, knowing the political perils involved because i had a republican successor coming in after me, i promulgated the highest and best regulations for the protection of our air, water, human health with zero tolerance for methane release of any state. that's what i did on my way out of office in order to make it more difficult for a success in governor to open up our streams. also with the water, there were pretty extensive regulations. in fact, the industry didn't want us to put forward any regulations at all, because they didn't want us to set a higher standard. it was my hope, since we'd got -- we've got five states in the my hopershed, it was that if we promulgated these high regulations, organizers in our neighboring states might have a yardstick they can measure to. i can put forward high standards, and that is what i did. i put forward higher standards. the governor who came in afterwards, he probably pulled the plug on those, but nonetheless, they were published and out there. thank you. >> governor, thank you for showing up. gov. o'malley: what is your name? >> mike bernie. i live up in dover. we are very interested and higher education in general. we had a specific question. [indiscernible] he does more of that work. we love that you are passionate for higher ed. every year, especially at unh, our tuition and fees are going up constantly. new dorms, new stadiums, new campus facilities. what we are wondering is, how do you rein in university spending when we are told, you have to have stadiums and campus facilities to pull in students? now our tuition is going up. gov. o'malley: it's almost look a nuclear arms race. does government do that so the taxpayers don't subsidize all the spending? gov. o'malley: we have to declare a national goal that tuition and fees at public universities should not be more than 10% of the median family's income. we need to create a block grant for states only if they are working towards that percentage goal. that is what i have put in my plan. i think it is 5% of median income for -- [indiscernible] in my experience as an executive, i never met two groups of professionals that were more in love with building their buildings than university heads and judges. judges have a building fetish like no other profession, and i say that being married to one. [laughter] it's not unlike the health care health carewe split institutions at the center. thank you guys. thank you. good talking with you. >> i haven't seen you since portsmouth. [indiscernible] [laughter] gov. o'malley: thank you. >> you were awesome last night. gov. o'malley: thank you. i'm on a learning curve. they gave me a short runway to take off. in the first debate, i had to introduce myself. last night's debate, i felt pretty good about it. >> your message was clear. on education, what do we do with underperforming schools, not in cities, but in were all parts of the country you go big cities get money. our rural underperforming schools don't get the recognition and don't get the money. gov. o'malley: even if they are title i? >> they get a little bit of money, but they don't get a lot of influx. they struggle. in our own state, regardless of whether a school was in a poorer jurisdiction or a wealthier one, rural or urban, it was the same and the same funding that would go into turning that school around. >> it was a state thing. gov. o'malley: i guess in turning around these low performing schools it varies. >> i worked in massachusetts, and i worked in new hampshire, and i found that massachusetts tried to do some work with underperforming schools, rural. new hampshire, less so. gov. o'malley: i guess it's also like public health. that varies. >> i know what you mean. gov. o'malley: just something to think about. think of a broader spectrum. the big cities get a lot of attention. gov. o'malley: when i was first elected in our city -- [indiscernible] i think a full day of kindergarten is the biggest difference. once we did the first cohort of they scored when above the national average for reading and math. >> yeah, you have to start at the primary level. gov. o'malley: universal pre-k. reform our high schools with more career and technical education. the good lord has given us plenty of work to do. thanks for hanging with me. >> [indiscernible] even if we had a clean energy tomorrow, we've still got billions of people in the world. they don't all live in the u.s. [indiscernible] to, we've got to figure out a way to change the way we live. that's the idea. gov. o'malley: we have to think about our economy and ethos. that is what i said last night. i know people mocked me on twitter for saying that. [indiscernible] another guy who has done a lot wrote something called "the ecological footprint." it's almost like a doomsday clock. i don't like to use the word "doomsday." shift when wedigm think about the economy right now. wall street is doing good. the stock market is great. most of us don't own stocks. when we watch our leaders said, , it's an market is up economy that has tilted away from productive investments. >> you heard the whole idea of gross thomistic product. gov. o'malley: did you know which state was the first state establish a genuine progress index score? maryland. progress index. it's not unrelated to happiness, but back to bobby kennedy's speech in kansas where he said, everything butes the quality of our children's life. you can find it online someplace. the new guy probably isn't doing that. did it, and there are many states that have followed suit. there are probably seven states who have adopted a genuine progress index, taking metrics like the time you spend in traffic, measuring the quality of your air. it's a bit of a movement, the genuine progress index, gpi. >> that's pretty cool. gov. o'malley: we would bring it up if we had one more debate on the environment. what is the term? >> the eco-enlightened age. local living economy. ecology. gov. o'malley: i like that. >> eco-energy. [indiscernible] gov. o'malley: we need to wrap this in a prosperity framework. this has to be about a future with more prosperity. >> it sort of a focus on that happiness. gpi is for genuine progress, but is to get people to start thinking about -- [indiscernible] we've got to change a lot of things. gov. o'malley: our prosperity depends on the prosperity of other living systems. the goal is to start thinking about eco-language. people have to start thinking, i can live like that, that's pretty cool. crisis, there are a lot about things, but young people -- [indiscernible] gov. o'malley: people under 30 don't dismiss climate change. paul has helped me write every state of the state i've done in maryland since 2007. >> i think people are getting it. gov. o'malley: we spent more time talking about bernie's campaign attacking hillary's than climate change. >> you knew it was going to happen. i think i worked for the summer with a relative of yours. bill o'malley? gov. o'malley: really? where was that? >> somewhere in pennsylvania. over near harrisburg. gov. o'malley: i have a lot of relatives in pennsylvania. yet, but he'sim in no malley -- an o'malley. if he's o'malley, we are probably related. know whaturious to your plan is -- you mentioned how you have a plan -- [indiscernible] can you give us the specifics? gov. o'malley: part of it is to extend tax credits for solar and for wind and to stop subsidizing the fossil fuel industry. second, i believe we need to make greater investments in research and development and choose safe nuclear. the third part of it is, we need to see a new generation of buildings that generate more energy for themselves. that is kind of my 1, 2, 3. also, we want more people rebuilding cities. >> ok. what about solar versus wind? gov. o'malley: i am for solar and wind. pretty sizable solar industry. it's now a few thousand people where it was zero couple years ago. in iowa, 4000 people are employed in wind that weren't years ago.couple i believe our government needs to invest in some of the grid infrastructure off the east coast, the new york megalopolis. in my state, i passed an offshore wind bill. awesome. thank you very much. gov. o'malley: gov. o'malley is o'malley: is this a line? >> 1, 2, 3. gov. o'malley: good to talk with you. 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