Transcripts For CSPAN Campaign 2022 Maryland Governor Debate

Transcripts For CSPAN Campaign 2022 Maryland Governor Debate 20221016



everyone that this is the second most expensive house race in the nation right now. what is driving that is super pac funding, and that super pac funding from -- for tyler kistner is coming from big oil and big pharma. we read this quote for you, this is what big pharma said they would do if i voted for the inflation reduction act. medicare price negotiations, if i voted to make them compete they said those members that that vote for these bills will not get a free pass. we will do everything we can to hold them accountable. tyler kistner and his funding from super pac's is an attempt to hold me accountable. i will never stop standing up to big pharma in sitting against -- and standing up for my constituents. >> small business is the heartbeat of our local communities, with the looming recession, what opportunities and plans will you work for to ensure hours small -- are small businesses can thrive? rep. craig: it is somebody's american dream. 92% of the businesses in this district are small businesses that's why it served on the committee of small businesses and that's why i worked so hard to get the the -- personal protection program. i have reduce the federal tax rate from 21% to 18% for small businesses. i know, input costs have gone up. i know that global inflation is challenging. i am so proud that we saved so many businesses and so many jobs across this district as a member of congress. quite frankly most of that was done on a bipartisan basis. >> thank you, angie, tyler. mr. kistner: talking with a small business owners especially last week, a lot of the issues that we've been discussing our the completely -- discussing are the complete result from the workforce shortage. when you have supply chains let are so stretched because we rely on foreign entities we need to bring a better workforce to america invest back in american business and shorten our supply chain. a short and reliable supply chain is the best of and do everything we can for our small businesses by giving them your tax credits and tax cuts. rep. craig: i would mention that mr. kistner just said we need to do exactly what the bill i introduced in congress would do. to reduce the tax rate for small businesses. i will stand by every day because mr. kistner will talk about spending. we just went through a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic. the government shut businesses down. the governments responsibility was to help you survive. that's exactly what i did and mostly on a bipartisan basis. >> thank you, angie. tyler, you're up this one. a lot of political ads reference the rich are not paying their fair share. however rather than targeting the wells of elon musk or jeff bezos, the tax plans rolled out by the president and congress have raised income taxes on many -- on who many would consider small business owners and middle class already paying a 37% tax rate. in that context, what do you consider these taxpayers fair share of taxes? >> when i look at this, that's when, -- congresswoman craig and her democratic allies would say that we are voting in opposite ways. you need to help small business owners. when we increase government spending about also increasing -- while also increasing i digress agents, the last thing that small businesses need is irs auditing. they have showed as the last two years they are willing to spend everything they have and more and they are mortgaging our children's future and your children's future and the future of future generations. when you cut taxes on small businesses, going to ng's comment about how she helps small business, she helps less than 1% of small businesses in the second congressional district. start looking at the totality of small businesses and giving tax credits to all of them. rep. craig: i introduced a second bill that would include self-employed individuals. i will get you a copy of that after this discussion. i don't think it's unreasonable to ask large corporations to pay a 15% minimum corporate tax rate. the tax breaks in this country that go to the local multinational companies, where you have the amazons of the world who are paying nothing. it's not fair to your small businesses. the deficit reduction act -- the inflation reduction act will lower health care costs in our country. it will also unleash renewable energy across our country helping us to become more energy independent as a nation. and, one more time, big pharma and big oil that is who is funding -- we may as well say that big pharma and big oil are running against me the cycle just as much as tyler kistner. >> i would say that the american people are running against you the cycle. what you see is the inflation reduction act never invested in american energy. if they did why are we begging opec to give us more, why are we selling our strategic reserves to china, why are we doing more -- biden and congresswoman craig capped the first day in congress in 2021. >> i serve on the energy and commerce committee in the u.s. congress. i have supported additional federal leases for oil and gas. why? i think we need to have been all of the above energy approach in our country. why? because we can't move to renewable energy overnight. but we need to start making that transition. and in fact, the inflation reduction act includes tax credits to transition to renewable energy, wind and solar. those will save the average american family $1800 per year. all of the above energy approach means renewable fuels, wind, solar, and in the short run, if we have to tap into drilling for gas and oil, that's what we need to do. >> thank you, angie. we are going to move on to another concern that keeps a lot of us up at night and that has to do with health care and prescription drugs. so, angie, you are going to start this one off. medicare and medicaid will spend over 200 billion dollars this year on alzheimer's disease and other dementia and on hundred thousand minnesotans live with this disease. and those numbers are expected to skyrocket as the baby boomers age. do you support fully funding the national institute of health research to help find a cure for this terrible disease and authorizing bipartisan bills to make this a priority for the federal government? rep. craig: i have been a strong supporter of additional funding to the nih. i have voted to increase its funding or hunt -- for heartbreaking diseases like alzheimer's. but i think we need to take a broader view of health care in our country. the bill, here is what it does, it allows medicare to negotiate drug pricing. it is pro-competition, something that the republican party used to before. it is a bill that's going to save our country more than $100 billion in medicare cost. we are the largest purchaser of health care. it is silly to me that as iran a fortune 500 -- as i ran a fortune 500 company, we cannot negotiate drug costs. it is going to actually provide health care to minnesotans in america. in the last two years along, 14 million more americans have gained access to health insurance in our country. that is an important point. >> tyler, you will get a few extra seconds. mr. kistner: i'd like to say, the republican party has proposed how we will address stuff like this, how will we protect social security and medicare? we have a commitment to america, we released this to say exactly what we will do in regards to stuff like that to investing cures for the longevity and life of the american people. we also need to personalize care providers and also look for affordable option in and better -- options and better quality care pet also making sure that we have transparency in the health care costs that we have. >> thank you, angie, 30 seconds. rep. craig: last week in congress republicans -- said that they would roll back the inflation reduction act if they take back congress. that's my bill, that would cap insulate costs at $35 a month for medicare and medicaid. what you didn't say in your answer, mr. kistner, you have not said that you would be willing to stand up for big pharma because i don't believe you would be. mr. kistner: i can tell you, that you are in tided to your view -- you are entitled to your view but not to your own facts. what matters the most is the middle class. >> i know exactly what everyone in this audience is struggling with and i always advocate to represent in congress. >> thank you, tyler you will answer this question first. a recent study from the department of health and human services shows that the price of more than 1000 drugs increase then inflation from 2020 to 2021. prescription drug pricing reform has been a political talking point for several years now. what will you do in congress to get health care costs under control. mr. kistner: it is not just health insurance with higher premiums and deductibles it's also technology and prescription drugs. we have a plan exactly of what we will do. we will get patient centered solutions but we also need to open our pharmaceutical markets to foreign markets like those of europe to create more competition to drive down costs and to also find solutions for drugs. >> angie. rep. craig: i have had jurisdiction over health care for the last two years. you are exactly right. over 100 -- over 1000 drugs went up over inflation. it is egregious, drug companies have become so used two being able to raise the price to what they want to that they expect to win every battle in washington. why do they expect to win? if you stand up to drugmakers in this country, they come after you if you are in elected office. i stood up to this administration, the biden administration, they were going to leave medicare negotiation out of the reconciliation bill. i led an effort to say no, that's free market and competition we need to allow medicare to negotiate drug prices. i believe that the commitment to america for republicans is is to roll back the progress that we've made. that's what they focus on in health care. mr. kistner: i would simply say that republicans are not looking to roll anything back but disastrous policies that have destroyed this economy that we truly had a great one to years ago. if you remember how wonderful the stock market was, and now look at it. you cannot say that republicans tried to roll it back we've tried to build a backup. the only ones rolling things back or democrats. rep. craig: i honestly don't know how you can make that comment this morning. two and a half years ago and unemployment was 10% in minnesota. six .1% when this president took office. it is great to look back in hindsight. but i am sincerely proud of the bipartisan work that we did. the bipartisan work to make sure that small businesses survived, to make sure that people had a job at the end of this. of course there will be challenges, but i am not sitting here, say, that this is something that will help me politically, i have my head down, doing the work. mr. kistner: this is how i can say i believe what i said. look at the stock market today. >> >> welcome for that positive note. i know that i will be retiring anytime soon. we will be back again. [laughter] we will move on, i think that congresswoman, you alluded to the so we will move on to the workforce employment issues. angie, you will go first. we have seen businesses across the state and including in dakota county, the struggle to attract and maintain employees. what are the workforce problems and what can be done to ensure a larger qualified candidate pool? rep. craig: it is the major effect of having such a low unemployment rate we are 1.9% unemployment in minnesota. we are record unemployment which creates a workforce challenge. this is part of the solution, this community college, we need to rethink our education system in this country. we need to look at career skills, trade skills, trade education. i have four sons, 19-25. and my son josh is a machinist. i think that in our nations high school we can present this as a great alternative. i will and with this, the 21st century workforce act that i wrote and introduced into congress would create a program for public-private partnerships at schools like this. in other words, if i work for a med tech company, and i need quality engineers, let's create programs in schools like this to provide -- to produce more quality engineers in minnesota. >> tyler. mr. kistner: this is something that we agree on. my son is also a machinist. i've never seen a kid break a toy so quickly. if we look at the workforce, we should be supporting careers in trades and manufacturing. this school is a great example of it. one way we can do that is public assistance programs to assist those that are looking to get incentive to join the workforce. we need to get the best and brightest from around the world and get the -- and have a reason for them to work here. we need a process for highly skilled workers to work here from across the country. in order to get people to work, you need to have a tax code that keeps them rightfully earning. we also need to make sure that we do not send our talent overseas and have a net talent lost it in cash talent loss in our country. rep. craig: i don't need a rebuttal because i don't disagree. >> we will save some time. we agree. mr. kistner: bipartisanship. >> this is a follow -- this is a follow-up question, tyler, i will give it to you. how does our broken immigration system interact with this? mr. kistner: in regards to the workforce, when you look at the border it is something that the democrats have ignored for two years because it is not expedient for them. the best way to address the border is to secure it and then to hold the laws that we have in place. i personally hold congresswoman craig for the fentanyl that continues to flow into our border. we need to secure our border and stop the flow of the league jewel -- illegal drugs like sentinel from coming -- like fentanyl from coming into our country. we need a solid immigration process to get the best and brightest from around the world and to help fill the critical skills and jobs that we needed in this country. >> angie. rep. craig: i know that when i talked to economist they say to me that immigration reform, one of the most significant things to do if we wanted to grow our economy. it is sad that immigration has become a political wedge issue. i agree that we need to have a secure border. i agree to increase appropriation for border security under president trump. but we also need to have a working immigration system in america. i've supported dhaka -- daca. the -- modernization act is a bill that would do just that, get more workers here in minnesota to help fill those workforce gaps. mr. kistner: you need to incentivize people to come to this country and the legal way rather than incentivize them to come to this country and an illegal way. rep. craig: do i get a rebuttal? >> you do, this is what happens. rep. craig: i would make the point that we must have a legal immigration system but as long as our system is as broken as it is, people will continue to go around that system. if it takes seven years to get through this country legally. that is not incentive. what the government needs to do to solve the problem and these political parties, specifically the republican party needs to stop using this as a wedge issue. >> unto the next question, angie, you will go first, this is regarding transit and dakota county regional chamber of commerce has been advocating to expand and improve transit systems throughout dakota county. the question is that, making sure that employees can get to work isn't -- is important to businesses in dakota county in order to allow these businesses to grow, how would you leverage federal dollars for transit in dakota county? rep. craig: i voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill in this session of congress. that means that there are federal dollars that have been distributed both directly in terms of ranch programs right here in the second district, i think about the ribbon-cutting for the transit improvements we made in apple valley or have made in apple valley. i think of the burn felled transit station and the orange line, that's where i put my district office, next to the orange line. billions of dollars in investment, investment in our local communities. that's why these infrastructure projects are so important. it allows our communities to grow and it allows the private sector to grow. this is one more bill that my opponent, tyler kistner has said that he will not vote -- has said that he will vote against. mr. kistner: when you look across this district, you see 20th century infrastructure that is continuing to deteriorate. we need to improve our infrastructure into the 21st century. what congresswoman craig is talking about, i agree, -- went through true infrastructure. what i disagree with is what the majority of the bill was which was a lot of pet projects that democrats wanted to put into the bill. it was more government spending that drove up inflation and put the leveraging on the backs of my children, your children and our future generations. that i disagree with. >> go ahead. rep. craig: highway 35 and candy road 50 -- county road 50. the library, all of these decisions are made on a local basis. what does the state, and our community need most? i don't know what other communities have chosen to do with their money. there is a ton of infrastructure improvement that is happening to the second district. including $100 million invested in minnesota in rural broadband. >> tyler. no rebuttal. let's hear we do this one. a simple yes or no. will you commit to do what you can for cd2 to bring the adequate funding for transit and help and assist the dakota county regional chamber along with our coalition to improve our transit system? angie? rep. craig: yes. >> tyler? mr. kistner: 100% yes. >> thank you tyler i was just hoping for yes. all right. let's move on to education, i know that we have with our friends here at d.c. pc and our school superintendent of 196, thank you so much for coming and we appreciate our partnership with you. tyler, you will go first. we know the cost of college education continues to increase. what is your stance on increasing the maximum pell grant award and expanding it to include short-term programs. mr. kistner: i do support helping students find a way to fund their college. but they need to know how to utilize that degree. i got out of college thousands -- $50,000 in debt. we need to start incentivizing students to go to education sources where there is jobs available while at the sim time -- while at the same time helping them find their school but not through the government. i think we can help with the loan repayment program switch incentivizes his messes to want to get into those programs and it incentivizes students to get into that style of workforce. >> angie. rep. craig: it's an important question, education is key. i am the wife of a teacher and the daughter of a teacher, and i've been through middle school as a parent four times. i have some experience here. we need to fully fund education in our country we need to know that they have a path to a great career that is different from only a four year university degree. there is a broader question we need to ask ourselves, certainly, additional pell grant funding is something that i've supported in the past. but for congress, the most important question is why is the cost of higher education continuing to rise the way that it has? how do we make sure that great community colleges, technical colleges, are available and these can result in great careers and good life. >> tyler. mr. kistner: we need to find ways to help students succeed but i don't want to put the burden of college loan debt on the back of every person in this room. look at what might ingested, he forgave over $400 billion in student loan debt, that's not something i can go for. >> angie. rep. craig: i have a lot of questions about the student loan forgiveness program, and i am asking those questions they have been wrong about the projections from day one education, we should invest in it but i'm not sure about joe biden's plan either, to be candid. >> that leads to my next question, with president biden announcing the $10,000 in student loan forgiveness, could you briefly comment, both of you, on was this the right decision or not? if you could elaborate, would you be in favor of giving more, less or none at all? we will start tyler. mr. kistner: i'm in favor of having businesses give tax credits to have a program to get students -- to give students incentive to join the workforce. >> angie. rep. craig: i think we should focus as a congress of how do we reduce the cost of higher education? how do we make sure that kids know or students know that there are targeted ways to get an education and a good life . i have a lot of questions for this administration as i said about the cost of this program. this was a campaign promise that he made. and if i close my eyes and think about if this were a republican president, or a democratic president, you have to ask the question, can a president spell -- spend 400 billion dollars without congressional approval? i do not believe that should be the case. >> any rebuttal? no? great. angie, this is yours. several colleges and universities in minnesota have received federal earmarks art community college grants. what would you support -- the continuation of rep. craig: look, i have participated in the community projects, and the way i have conducted it, i go to my local community and ask, what would you want your tax money back for? in other words, there is a commercial driving skills program that we helped fund. we are repaving the emergency responders track so our police officers and emergency responders can practice driving around that track. the riverfront stabilization project, these are projects that local elected leaders or community leaders like michael bert have said to me, i want you to put in for. we are a net tax exporter in minnesota of our tax dollars. that is what we were when i became your member of congress, so personally, i would rather see the money come back to minnesota, be invested in our community, instead of it going to texas or somewhere else. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: when i started running, i said what you want to be doing the most of his pushing everything to the local level because it should be empowering local level politics in our communities and finding ways you can best do that. moderator: angie? rep. craig: i would just say that every member of congress needs to ask the question of themselves, are they going to submit for review to be included in the appropriations process? i said yes. i didn't hear a yes over there. i want to take a minute. i know you said no rebuttal on the transit question, but the answer is yes, 100% he would support, but he is on record saying he wouldn't have voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill, which is the federal dollars that funded those transit projects in minnesota. i have a hard time figuring out your policy positions from time to time, tyler, because they seem to change depending on the audience. moderator: you get a few more seconds. mr. kistner: i guess i will say it slowly so you can hear it. there was $500 billion that went to infrastructure to help this district. the majority of the $1.9 billion -- 1.9 trillion dollars, i would not have supported. rep. craig:rep. craig: your republican colleagues in the senate did. this was a bipartisan proposal, folks. moderator: let's move onto to the next question. academic efficiency rates in minnesota are dropping and across the country. 50% of minnesota students are proficient in reading and math. what are your solutions for improving the academic performance and recovering learning loss due to the distance learning during covid-19? mr. kistner: the biggest thing we can do to help support our education system is to get the federal government power hand out of it. we need to push it to school district control. we are putting so much money towards the education system, but it is not getting to the students. we need to make sure our education system is actually working. the best way we can do it is have a parental choice. let kids decide where they can best learn. that way, you create greater competition and force the school system to put the focus back on educating students. rep. craig: the first and highest priority is to support our nations teachers and pay them what they deserve to teach our children. the federal government actually has little to do with public education in minnesota. curriculum is determined on a local level. what you have to remember is the federal government required schools to comply with idea. what we didn't do was fund of the individual disabilities education act. that is why i am a strong supporter of the idea funding act to finally have the federal government step up to fund special education. the impact on your community when it doesn't happen, there are folks who have to bring dollars to special education and fund it from general operating money. teachers are asked to take on more students. this is more than a 1:00 answer and a complicated, but that is the role of the federal government, to fully fund special education in the country. mr. kistner: i would like to fully fund education, but i'd like to find ways to make that education system better. if it is a broken system and you throw money at it, it will not improve the system. we are throwing a lot of money at the education system, but we have a 30 year low of act scores from high school graduates trying to get into college. that tells me you have to assess what is going on and figure out the best way to address it. give it back to the school districts to address the issues they are facing. rep. craig: i would added that when i sit down with superintendents, fully funding special education is one of their top priorities, and those dollars are decided at the local level, school board, curriculum decided at the local level, as well. years and years of time and effort wasted teaching to tests under different leadership in congress, so we have to let teachers teach and help students think critically. moderator: thank you both. as the mother of a middle school math teacher, i see what happens day in and day out in my son's life. i just want to let everyone know that my son is wonderful. [laughter] rep. craig: don't get me started. i have four of them. moderator: and tyler has daughters. let's talk about the kids. mr. kistner: please. moderator: we are going to move on to agriculture. in the congressional district, agriculture is important. washington lawmakers discuss legislation earlier this year that would change tax law for family farmers. the second district is 65% covered in corn and soybeans, and most of our farms are small farms. what proposals would you support in congress to support family finders -- farmers? rep. craig: let me start with this change proposed by democrats. i told the administration and party leadership, a change in stepped up basis, they could kiss my vote by. that is how you push back on your own party. you say, this is what i will not vote for, and you work on legislation that is ultimately never perfect that you finally get across the finish line. i am so proud to be a member of the ad committee in the u.s. congress. i'm proud to be the only representative in minnesota to have the endorsement of the farm bureau and the farmers union. i am the only member of congress to get across the finish line the bill that would place year-round sales of e-15 into law. we have a 2023 farm bill coming up, and i am looking forward to being part of that. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: i need to look at the definition of pushback, because when you vote with your party and joe biden nancy pelosi close to 100% of the time, i don't understand what your pushback means. the best way you can help farmers is lowering input costs. the way to do that is lowering inflation and lowering the cost of living the. talk to farmers, and the greatest cost they have is petroleum. they would rather be paying $1.80 and discussing what we can do for farmers, instead of rooting for little things to give them little successes. they want to have a successful farm they can pass to the next generation, and that is what we need to do, drive down the input costs. rep. craig: i long for the day when "schoolhouse rock" comes back so we can all remember that a president doesn't vote. he signs bills into law. changed in stepped up basis is a great example. there was a group of us in congress who pushback on our own party. where did i push back? medicare price negotiations. that bill is going nowhere where medicare could negotiate drug prices. big pharma, big oil, they are with him, and i want you to know why. i have been an active supporter of renewable energy, and those special interests do not want us to make those changes in the country. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: if they don't want us to make those changes, his big oil on your campaign? rep. craig: i will just answer with, the common ground committee has named to me in the top 3% of all bipartisan members of congress. 80% of the bills i have written or cosponsored have republicans on them. i vote with pete stauber 49% of the time. those are independent facts you can look up yourself. moderator: let's move onto another fun topic, elections and campaigns. this election will run approximately $30 million in expenditures, mostly coming from outside groups. would yousupport campaign-finance reform? if outside super pac contributions were gone, what would your campaign look like? how would you run your campaign? rep. craig: we just announced our fundraising numbers yesterday, and 95% of my contributions in the last three months came in dollar amounts of $100 or less. not only would i support campaign-finance reform, i would support it. hr one has passed congress twice. all of the dollars, the vast majority on the republican side of this race are coming from super pac's. you don't know exactly who is giving to super pac's in support of mr. kistner. there is no transparency or disclosure. i report every quarter who is giving to my campaign and tell them how many of my contributions were $100 or less. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: you are asking what my campaign would look like if we had those reforms? nothing would change. my campaign is driven by the grassroots. i can see over half of them in here. that is exactly what my campaign is and what it is going to be. moderator: angie? rep. craig: you mentioned this question about elections. i would just remind everyone that even though he is sitting next to me and saying what you hear, he actually sued to invalidate the results of the election in minnesota. cnn and "the washington post" have categorized him as an election denier. mr. kistner: i thought you waved me off. i thought we were done with that. what i was trying to uphold was minnesota state election law. the reason that the state law was not upheld because congresswoman craig was going to challenge the law. ultimately, she won, and we got rid of a state election law, and it is pushed up to the federal government. rep. craig: i've got nothing. now her -- moderator: now we are going to heat it up. this is a two-part question for both candidates, and tyler, you are up first on this one. just making sure. [no audio] the second part is, would you abide by and accept the rules of this election to select a representative from cd 2? mr. kistner:mr. kistner: there is no way of denying it, biden is the president. look at gas prices. you know that joe biden is the president. yes, i will accept the results of the 2022 election because the people have been frustrated the last two years, and we will make sure their voice is heard. rep. craig: you will accept the results of the next election as long as you wind the next election. that is what you just said, tyler. let me start by saying that you sued twice in the last election to overturn minnesota's results. you've been called an election denier by cnn and "the washington post." you didn't answer marie's question appeared joe biden won the last election. i was there on the house floor, and up in the gallery the day we tried to certify that election, and i can tell you this. i will abide by the results no matter the outcome in the 2022 election because that is what people who support democracy do. mr. kistner: i'm going to talk with bill austin later, because i think he has a special deal for you on a hearing aid. i think you are misrepresenting. rep. craig: this is what you do. you sue the state twice to overturn the election. you won't admit it. you just said if you win, you will appeal -- [no audio] i've read from you that you are pro-life, you are pro-trump, and you pretend to be the boy in the store. -- the boys next door. you are too extreme for minnesota's second district. mr. kistner: it's getting fun now. i will just say simply, congresswoman craig, i haven't seen a more dishonest campaign than i've seen from you, and i think that is unbecoming of a congressional member of the second congressional district and shows how far you will lie to people to keep your political power. moderator: thank you very much on these questions. i am going to move onto another sensitive subject. if we can keep our voices a little more quiet, that would be great. there have been ads regarding the supreme court overturning roe v. wade, lots of uncertainty in clarity on what positions are. i would like to hear from each of you what your position is, and if there are any exceptions to turning over roe v. wade. we start with angie first and then tyler. rep. craig: my position has been clear from the start. i voted twice to codify roe into law to make sure every woman in america has the rights to her own body, own choice, own reproductive rights, and my opponent has said he is 100% pro-life. he said he thought the abortion ban bill introduced in congress that would send doctors to prison "sounds reasonable." he signed a pledge that he would leave any law in place if elected to congress. let me tell you what has happened to american women. one in three american women have lost to the reproductive rights since roe v. wade was overturned. nine states have banned abortion even in the cases of rape and incest. you have the power to make sure that every woman in america has reproductive rights. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: out of any candidate, i've been the only one who had to clarify his position for 15 media outlets in the state. i am the father of a little girl, and women's health rights are important to me. i will never do anything to jeopardize women's health rights. i am pro-life with the exceptions of rape, incest and life of the mother, but this issue should be left to the states. abortion laws in minnesota are not changing anytime soon. congresswoman craig voted twice for a bill that would allow abortion up to the point of birth. rep. craig: that is absurd. roe allowed for third trimester abortions only in the case of the life of the mother. which you said that you are for. reproductive rights, freedom, when did the republican party become the party of telling people what they can do in their doctors offices? if you are for freedom and individual liberty, you have to be for reproductive rights. i will always trust a woman and her family to make this decision more than a politician, and your comments about my position really reflect why no politician should be able to have any say in this at all. moderator: tyler, a few more seconds. mr. kistner: there's nothing else to say about this. moderator: we are now getting towards the end. it has been a lively, spirited conversation, so let's move into the closing comments. each will have 2:00, and tyler, we start with you. mr. kistner: marie, thank you so much for this wonderful opportunity. it got a little fun at times, and a special thank you to all the regional chambers. thank you for all of the effort in putting this on the. we discussed a lot of issues facing americans, but i want to talk to the people in the second congressional district who have been struggling to put food on the table because of these 40-year highs we've been dealing with due to the policies that congresswoman craig and joe biden have been putting in place. i understand your difficulties. those difficulties are the same reasons i stood up to run for congress for my children's future and for future generations. it is my family. it is your family. it is your businesses that cannot survive another two years of these disastrous policies that have made the cost of living out of reach for everybody. it is an easy solution of how to fix this. rain in government spending, start tapping into american energy dominance, and start investing back into american resources in manufacturing to bring back a stronger american economy. we can strengthen our economy to put us on the pathway towards prosperity, and we can make living affordable again in this country by lowering inflation. we can work together to bring greater prosperity for our children and future generations. i started with this comment. it is a simple question you have to ask yourself the next 26 days. can you survive another two years of joe biden and angie craig possible leadership, or do you want the next two years to be a check and balance to these policies and make sure it is the beginning of a path to recovery and prosperity echo mr. kistner: thank you, again. i would ask for your support and vote on november 8. moderator: thank you. angie? rep. craig: thank you to the dakota regional chamber. it is clear voters have an important place between now and november 8, a choice between david jodey and big pharma, a choice between a world where women make health care decisions and a world where politicians think they should decide. this race boils down to contrast, some -- someone who is clear about what she believes and is candidate, and someone who hides his positions from his website. someone who is going to stand up to central -- special interests versus someone who stands behind them. someone working every day to lower costs versus someone who says, this issue of inflation is helping republicans politically. i am proud of what we have accomplished over these last four years, and i have proven i will work with anybody with a good idea. president trump even signed four of my bills into law. that is why i've been named in the common ground committee of the top 3% of all bipartisan members of congress. our district is one of only 31 true swing seats left in the united states. my constituents are deeply independent. they have integrity, and i've done my best to embody that as your member of congress. whether we agree or disagree, i will always listen to you, and i will always show up, and i'll always take your questions. it is great to see you today. tyler on the other hand hides his abortion stance because he knows it is too extreme. he funnels money to himself through content -- campaign contributions to himself, and he got caught. he let big pharma dictate his agenda because they fund his campaign. with tyler, it is about politics and power. i will always stand up for your rights and freedoms, and it is my honor to serve you. thank you, and i humbly ask for your vote. moderator: thank you, angie. on behalf of the dakota county regional chamber of commerce, my special thanks to the candidates for taking time to share your views and your perspectives. that is what this is all about. i appreciate both of you being here today. i want to thank michael -- where are you? thank you for your support, and to the facilities and operations and maintenance staff of dct c, this is a great group of people. michael, i couldn't be more pleased to work with your team. jody miller and joe, thank you so much. we wouldn't be able to pull this off without you. a special thank you to our sponsors, velocity public affairs, and most importantly to our chamber partners, i know that tim zucker is in the back. please waive to everyone. thank you so much. he is the president of the shock up he area chamber. i know amanda is here from the st. paul area chamber. thank you very much. this is what partnership is all about. most importantly, i want to thank you, our audience, for being here today. i hope that you have got something out of this. we have heard differing opinions, and that's ok. that is ok. i hope the goal is when you leave, you are more informed, and you will go vote

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everyone that this is the second most expensive house race in the nation right now. what is driving that is super pac funding, and that super pac funding from -- for tyler kistner is coming from big oil and big pharma. we read this quote for you, this is what big pharma said they would do if i voted for the inflation reduction act. medicare price negotiations, if i voted to make them compete they said those members that that vote for these bills will not get a free pass. we will do everything we can to hold them accountable. tyler kistner and his funding from super pac's is an attempt to hold me accountable. i will never stop standing up to big pharma in sitting against -- and standing up for my constituents. >> small business is the heartbeat of our local communities, with the looming recession, what opportunities and plans will you work for to ensure hours small -- are small businesses can thrive? rep. craig: it is somebody's american dream. 92% of the businesses in this district are small businesses that's why it served on the committee of small businesses and that's why i worked so hard to get the the -- personal protection program. i have reduce the federal tax rate from 21% to 18% for small businesses. i know, input costs have gone up. i know that global inflation is challenging. i am so proud that we saved so many businesses and so many jobs across this district as a member of congress. quite frankly most of that was done on a bipartisan basis. >> thank you, angie, tyler. mr. kistner: talking with a small business owners especially last week, a lot of the issues that we've been discussing our the completely -- discussing are the complete result from the workforce shortage. when you have supply chains let are so stretched because we rely on foreign entities we need to bring a better workforce to america invest back in american business and shorten our supply chain. a short and reliable supply chain is the best of and do everything we can for our small businesses by giving them your tax credits and tax cuts. rep. craig: i would mention that mr. kistner just said we need to do exactly what the bill i introduced in congress would do. to reduce the tax rate for small businesses. i will stand by every day because mr. kistner will talk about spending. we just went through a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic. the government shut businesses down. the governments responsibility was to help you survive. that's exactly what i did and mostly on a bipartisan basis. >> thank you, angie. tyler, you're up this one. a lot of political ads reference the rich are not paying their fair share. however rather than targeting the wells of elon musk or jeff bezos, the tax plans rolled out by the president and congress have raised income taxes on many -- on who many would consider small business owners and middle class already paying a 37% tax rate. in that context, what do you consider these taxpayers fair share of taxes? >> when i look at this, that's when, -- congresswoman craig and her democratic allies would say that we are voting in opposite ways. you need to help small business owners. when we increase government spending about also increasing -- while also increasing i digress agents, the last thing that small businesses need is irs auditing. they have showed as the last two years they are willing to spend everything they have and more and they are mortgaging our children's future and your children's future and the future of future generations. when you cut taxes on small businesses, going to ng's comment about how she helps small business, she helps less than 1% of small businesses in the second congressional district. start looking at the totality of small businesses and giving tax credits to all of them. rep. craig: i introduced a second bill that would include self-employed individuals. i will get you a copy of that after this discussion. i don't think it's unreasonable to ask large corporations to pay a 15% minimum corporate tax rate. the tax breaks in this country that go to the local multinational companies, where you have the amazons of the world who are paying nothing. it's not fair to your small businesses. the deficit reduction act -- the inflation reduction act will lower health care costs in our country. it will also unleash renewable energy across our country helping us to become more energy independent as a nation. and, one more time, big pharma and big oil that is who is funding -- we may as well say that big pharma and big oil are running against me the cycle just as much as tyler kistner. >> i would say that the american people are running against you the cycle. what you see is the inflation reduction act never invested in american energy. if they did why are we begging opec to give us more, why are we selling our strategic reserves to china, why are we doing more -- biden and congresswoman craig capped the first day in congress in 2021. >> i serve on the energy and commerce committee in the u.s. congress. i have supported additional federal leases for oil and gas. why? i think we need to have been all of the above energy approach in our country. why? because we can't move to renewable energy overnight. but we need to start making that transition. and in fact, the inflation reduction act includes tax credits to transition to renewable energy, wind and solar. those will save the average american family $1800 per year. all of the above energy approach means renewable fuels, wind, solar, and in the short run, if we have to tap into drilling for gas and oil, that's what we need to do. >> thank you, angie. we are going to move on to another concern that keeps a lot of us up at night and that has to do with health care and prescription drugs. so, angie, you are going to start this one off. medicare and medicaid will spend over 200 billion dollars this year on alzheimer's disease and other dementia and on hundred thousand minnesotans live with this disease. and those numbers are expected to skyrocket as the baby boomers age. do you support fully funding the national institute of health research to help find a cure for this terrible disease and authorizing bipartisan bills to make this a priority for the federal government? rep. craig: i have been a strong supporter of additional funding to the nih. i have voted to increase its funding or hunt -- for heartbreaking diseases like alzheimer's. but i think we need to take a broader view of health care in our country. the bill, here is what it does, it allows medicare to negotiate drug pricing. it is pro-competition, something that the republican party used to before. it is a bill that's going to save our country more than $100 billion in medicare cost. we are the largest purchaser of health care. it is silly to me that as iran a fortune 500 -- as i ran a fortune 500 company, we cannot negotiate drug costs. it is going to actually provide health care to minnesotans in america. in the last two years along, 14 million more americans have gained access to health insurance in our country. that is an important point. >> tyler, you will get a few extra seconds. mr. kistner: i'd like to say, the republican party has proposed how we will address stuff like this, how will we protect social security and medicare? we have a commitment to america, we released this to say exactly what we will do in regards to stuff like that to investing cures for the longevity and life of the american people. we also need to personalize care providers and also look for affordable option in and better -- options and better quality care pet also making sure that we have transparency in the health care costs that we have. >> thank you, angie, 30 seconds. rep. craig: last week in congress republicans -- said that they would roll back the inflation reduction act if they take back congress. that's my bill, that would cap insulate costs at $35 a month for medicare and medicaid. what you didn't say in your answer, mr. kistner, you have not said that you would be willing to stand up for big pharma because i don't believe you would be. mr. kistner: i can tell you, that you are in tided to your view -- you are entitled to your view but not to your own facts. what matters the most is the middle class. >> i know exactly what everyone in this audience is struggling with and i always advocate to represent in congress. >> thank you, tyler you will answer this question first. a recent study from the department of health and human services shows that the price of more than 1000 drugs increase then inflation from 2020 to 2021. prescription drug pricing reform has been a political talking point for several years now. what will you do in congress to get health care costs under control. mr. kistner: it is not just health insurance with higher premiums and deductibles it's also technology and prescription drugs. we have a plan exactly of what we will do. we will get patient centered solutions but we also need to open our pharmaceutical markets to foreign markets like those of europe to create more competition to drive down costs and to also find solutions for drugs. >> angie. rep. craig: i have had jurisdiction over health care for the last two years. you are exactly right. over 100 -- over 1000 drugs went up over inflation. it is egregious, drug companies have become so used two being able to raise the price to what they want to that they expect to win every battle in washington. why do they expect to win? if you stand up to drugmakers in this country, they come after you if you are in elected office. i stood up to this administration, the biden administration, they were going to leave medicare negotiation out of the reconciliation bill. i led an effort to say no, that's free market and competition we need to allow medicare to negotiate drug prices. i believe that the commitment to america for republicans is is to roll back the progress that we've made. that's what they focus on in health care. mr. kistner: i would simply say that republicans are not looking to roll anything back but disastrous policies that have destroyed this economy that we truly had a great one to years ago. if you remember how wonderful the stock market was, and now look at it. you cannot say that republicans tried to roll it back we've tried to build a backup. the only ones rolling things back or democrats. rep. craig: i honestly don't know how you can make that comment this morning. two and a half years ago and unemployment was 10% in minnesota. six .1% when this president took office. it is great to look back in hindsight. but i am sincerely proud of the bipartisan work that we did. the bipartisan work to make sure that small businesses survived, to make sure that people had a job at the end of this. of course there will be challenges, but i am not sitting here, say, that this is something that will help me politically, i have my head down, doing the work. mr. kistner: this is how i can say i believe what i said. look at the stock market today. >> >> welcome for that positive note. i know that i will be retiring anytime soon. we will be back again. [laughter] we will move on, i think that congresswoman, you alluded to the so we will move on to the workforce employment issues. angie, you will go first. we have seen businesses across the state and including in dakota county, the struggle to attract and maintain employees. what are the workforce problems and what can be done to ensure a larger qualified candidate pool? rep. craig: it is the major effect of having such a low unemployment rate we are 1.9% unemployment in minnesota. we are record unemployment which creates a workforce challenge. this is part of the solution, this community college, we need to rethink our education system in this country. we need to look at career skills, trade skills, trade education. i have four sons, 19-25. and my son josh is a machinist. i think that in our nations high school we can present this as a great alternative. i will and with this, the 21st century workforce act that i wrote and introduced into congress would create a program for public-private partnerships at schools like this. in other words, if i work for a med tech company, and i need quality engineers, let's create programs in schools like this to provide -- to produce more quality engineers in minnesota. >> tyler. mr. kistner: this is something that we agree on. my son is also a machinist. i've never seen a kid break a toy so quickly. if we look at the workforce, we should be supporting careers in trades and manufacturing. this school is a great example of it. one way we can do that is public assistance programs to assist those that are looking to get incentive to join the workforce. we need to get the best and brightest from around the world and get the -- and have a reason for them to work here. we need a process for highly skilled workers to work here from across the country. in order to get people to work, you need to have a tax code that keeps them rightfully earning. we also need to make sure that we do not send our talent overseas and have a net talent lost it in cash talent loss in our country. rep. craig: i don't need a rebuttal because i don't disagree. >> we will save some time. we agree. mr. kistner: bipartisanship. >> this is a follow -- this is a follow-up question, tyler, i will give it to you. how does our broken immigration system interact with this? mr. kistner: in regards to the workforce, when you look at the border it is something that the democrats have ignored for two years because it is not expedient for them. the best way to address the border is to secure it and then to hold the laws that we have in place. i personally hold congresswoman craig for the fentanyl that continues to flow into our border. we need to secure our border and stop the flow of the league jewel -- illegal drugs like sentinel from coming -- like fentanyl from coming into our country. we need a solid immigration process to get the best and brightest from around the world and to help fill the critical skills and jobs that we needed in this country. >> angie. rep. craig: i know that when i talked to economist they say to me that immigration reform, one of the most significant things to do if we wanted to grow our economy. it is sad that immigration has become a political wedge issue. i agree that we need to have a secure border. i agree to increase appropriation for border security under president trump. but we also need to have a working immigration system in america. i've supported dhaka -- daca. the -- modernization act is a bill that would do just that, get more workers here in minnesota to help fill those workforce gaps. mr. kistner: you need to incentivize people to come to this country and the legal way rather than incentivize them to come to this country and an illegal way. rep. craig: do i get a rebuttal? >> you do, this is what happens. rep. craig: i would make the point that we must have a legal immigration system but as long as our system is as broken as it is, people will continue to go around that system. if it takes seven years to get through this country legally. that is not incentive. what the government needs to do to solve the problem and these political parties, specifically the republican party needs to stop using this as a wedge issue. >> unto the next question, angie, you will go first, this is regarding transit and dakota county regional chamber of commerce has been advocating to expand and improve transit systems throughout dakota county. the question is that, making sure that employees can get to work isn't -- is important to businesses in dakota county in order to allow these businesses to grow, how would you leverage federal dollars for transit in dakota county? rep. craig: i voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill in this session of congress. that means that there are federal dollars that have been distributed both directly in terms of ranch programs right here in the second district, i think about the ribbon-cutting for the transit improvements we made in apple valley or have made in apple valley. i think of the burn felled transit station and the orange line, that's where i put my district office, next to the orange line. billions of dollars in investment, investment in our local communities. that's why these infrastructure projects are so important. it allows our communities to grow and it allows the private sector to grow. this is one more bill that my opponent, tyler kistner has said that he will not vote -- has said that he will vote against. mr. kistner: when you look across this district, you see 20th century infrastructure that is continuing to deteriorate. we need to improve our infrastructure into the 21st century. what congresswoman craig is talking about, i agree, -- went through true infrastructure. what i disagree with is what the majority of the bill was which was a lot of pet projects that democrats wanted to put into the bill. it was more government spending that drove up inflation and put the leveraging on the backs of my children, your children and our future generations. that i disagree with. >> go ahead. rep. craig: highway 35 and candy road 50 -- county road 50. the library, all of these decisions are made on a local basis. what does the state, and our community need most? i don't know what other communities have chosen to do with their money. there is a ton of infrastructure improvement that is happening to the second district. including $100 million invested in minnesota in rural broadband. >> tyler. no rebuttal. let's hear we do this one. a simple yes or no. will you commit to do what you can for cd2 to bring the adequate funding for transit and help and assist the dakota county regional chamber along with our coalition to improve our transit system? angie? rep. craig: yes. >> tyler? mr. kistner: 100% yes. >> thank you tyler i was just hoping for yes. all right. let's move on to education, i know that we have with our friends here at d.c. pc and our school superintendent of 196, thank you so much for coming and we appreciate our partnership with you. tyler, you will go first. we know the cost of college education continues to increase. what is your stance on increasing the maximum pell grant award and expanding it to include short-term programs. mr. kistner: i do support helping students find a way to fund their college. but they need to know how to utilize that degree. i got out of college thousands -- $50,000 in debt. we need to start incentivizing students to go to education sources where there is jobs available while at the sim time -- while at the same time helping them find their school but not through the government. i think we can help with the loan repayment program switch incentivizes his messes to want to get into those programs and it incentivizes students to get into that style of workforce. >> angie. rep. craig: it's an important question, education is key. i am the wife of a teacher and the daughter of a teacher, and i've been through middle school as a parent four times. i have some experience here. we need to fully fund education in our country we need to know that they have a path to a great career that is different from only a four year university degree. there is a broader question we need to ask ourselves, certainly, additional pell grant funding is something that i've supported in the past. but for congress, the most important question is why is the cost of higher education continuing to rise the way that it has? how do we make sure that great community colleges, technical colleges, are available and these can result in great careers and good life. >> tyler. mr. kistner: we need to find ways to help students succeed but i don't want to put the burden of college loan debt on the back of every person in this room. look at what might ingested, he forgave over $400 billion in student loan debt, that's not something i can go for. >> angie. rep. craig: i have a lot of questions about the student loan forgiveness program, and i am asking those questions they have been wrong about the projections from day one education, we should invest in it but i'm not sure about joe biden's plan either, to be candid. >> that leads to my next question, with president biden announcing the $10,000 in student loan forgiveness, could you briefly comment, both of you, on was this the right decision or not? if you could elaborate, would you be in favor of giving more, less or none at all? we will start tyler. mr. kistner: i'm in favor of having businesses give tax credits to have a program to get students -- to give students incentive to join the workforce. >> angie. rep. craig: i think we should focus as a congress of how do we reduce the cost of higher education? how do we make sure that kids know or students know that there are targeted ways to get an education and a good life . i have a lot of questions for this administration as i said about the cost of this program. this was a campaign promise that he made. and if i close my eyes and think about if this were a republican president, or a democratic president, you have to ask the question, can a president spell -- spend 400 billion dollars without congressional approval? i do not believe that should be the case. >> any rebuttal? no? great. angie, this is yours. several colleges and universities in minnesota have received federal earmarks art community college grants. what would you support -- the continuation of rep. craig: look, i have participated in the community projects, and the way i have conducted it, i go to my local community and ask, what would you want your tax money back for? in other words, there is a commercial driving skills program that we helped fund. we are repaving the emergency responders track so our police officers and emergency responders can practice driving around that track. the riverfront stabilization project, these are projects that local elected leaders or community leaders like michael bert have said to me, i want you to put in for. we are a net tax exporter in minnesota of our tax dollars. that is what we were when i became your member of congress, so personally, i would rather see the money come back to minnesota, be invested in our community, instead of it going to texas or somewhere else. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: when i started running, i said what you want to be doing the most of his pushing everything to the local level because it should be empowering local level politics in our communities and finding ways you can best do that. moderator: angie? rep. craig: i would just say that every member of congress needs to ask the question of themselves, are they going to submit for review to be included in the appropriations process? i said yes. i didn't hear a yes over there. i want to take a minute. i know you said no rebuttal on the transit question, but the answer is yes, 100% he would support, but he is on record saying he wouldn't have voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill, which is the federal dollars that funded those transit projects in minnesota. i have a hard time figuring out your policy positions from time to time, tyler, because they seem to change depending on the audience. moderator: you get a few more seconds. mr. kistner: i guess i will say it slowly so you can hear it. there was $500 billion that went to infrastructure to help this district. the majority of the $1.9 billion -- 1.9 trillion dollars, i would not have supported. rep. craig:rep. craig: your republican colleagues in the senate did. this was a bipartisan proposal, folks. moderator: let's move onto to the next question. academic efficiency rates in minnesota are dropping and across the country. 50% of minnesota students are proficient in reading and math. what are your solutions for improving the academic performance and recovering learning loss due to the distance learning during covid-19? mr. kistner: the biggest thing we can do to help support our education system is to get the federal government power hand out of it. we need to push it to school district control. we are putting so much money towards the education system, but it is not getting to the students. we need to make sure our education system is actually working. the best way we can do it is have a parental choice. let kids decide where they can best learn. that way, you create greater competition and force the school system to put the focus back on educating students. rep. craig: the first and highest priority is to support our nations teachers and pay them what they deserve to teach our children. the federal government actually has little to do with public education in minnesota. curriculum is determined on a local level. what you have to remember is the federal government required schools to comply with idea. what we didn't do was fund of the individual disabilities education act. that is why i am a strong supporter of the idea funding act to finally have the federal government step up to fund special education. the impact on your community when it doesn't happen, there are folks who have to bring dollars to special education and fund it from general operating money. teachers are asked to take on more students. this is more than a 1:00 answer and a complicated, but that is the role of the federal government, to fully fund special education in the country. mr. kistner: i would like to fully fund education, but i'd like to find ways to make that education system better. if it is a broken system and you throw money at it, it will not improve the system. we are throwing a lot of money at the education system, but we have a 30 year low of act scores from high school graduates trying to get into college. that tells me you have to assess what is going on and figure out the best way to address it. give it back to the school districts to address the issues they are facing. rep. craig: i would added that when i sit down with superintendents, fully funding special education is one of their top priorities, and those dollars are decided at the local level, school board, curriculum decided at the local level, as well. years and years of time and effort wasted teaching to tests under different leadership in congress, so we have to let teachers teach and help students think critically. moderator: thank you both. as the mother of a middle school math teacher, i see what happens day in and day out in my son's life. i just want to let everyone know that my son is wonderful. [laughter] rep. craig: don't get me started. i have four of them. moderator: and tyler has daughters. let's talk about the kids. mr. kistner: please. moderator: we are going to move on to agriculture. in the congressional district, agriculture is important. washington lawmakers discuss legislation earlier this year that would change tax law for family farmers. the second district is 65% covered in corn and soybeans, and most of our farms are small farms. what proposals would you support in congress to support family finders -- farmers? rep. craig: let me start with this change proposed by democrats. i told the administration and party leadership, a change in stepped up basis, they could kiss my vote by. that is how you push back on your own party. you say, this is what i will not vote for, and you work on legislation that is ultimately never perfect that you finally get across the finish line. i am so proud to be a member of the ad committee in the u.s. congress. i'm proud to be the only representative in minnesota to have the endorsement of the farm bureau and the farmers union. i am the only member of congress to get across the finish line the bill that would place year-round sales of e-15 into law. we have a 2023 farm bill coming up, and i am looking forward to being part of that. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: i need to look at the definition of pushback, because when you vote with your party and joe biden nancy pelosi close to 100% of the time, i don't understand what your pushback means. the best way you can help farmers is lowering input costs. the way to do that is lowering inflation and lowering the cost of living the. talk to farmers, and the greatest cost they have is petroleum. they would rather be paying $1.80 and discussing what we can do for farmers, instead of rooting for little things to give them little successes. they want to have a successful farm they can pass to the next generation, and that is what we need to do, drive down the input costs. rep. craig: i long for the day when "schoolhouse rock" comes back so we can all remember that a president doesn't vote. he signs bills into law. changed in stepped up basis is a great example. there was a group of us in congress who pushback on our own party. where did i push back? medicare price negotiations. that bill is going nowhere where medicare could negotiate drug prices. big pharma, big oil, they are with him, and i want you to know why. i have been an active supporter of renewable energy, and those special interests do not want us to make those changes in the country. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: if they don't want us to make those changes, his big oil on your campaign? rep. craig: i will just answer with, the common ground committee has named to me in the top 3% of all bipartisan members of congress. 80% of the bills i have written or cosponsored have republicans on them. i vote with pete stauber 49% of the time. those are independent facts you can look up yourself. moderator: let's move onto another fun topic, elections and campaigns. this election will run approximately $30 million in expenditures, mostly coming from outside groups. would yousupport campaign-finance reform? if outside super pac contributions were gone, what would your campaign look like? how would you run your campaign? rep. craig: we just announced our fundraising numbers yesterday, and 95% of my contributions in the last three months came in dollar amounts of $100 or less. not only would i support campaign-finance reform, i would support it. hr one has passed congress twice. all of the dollars, the vast majority on the republican side of this race are coming from super pac's. you don't know exactly who is giving to super pac's in support of mr. kistner. there is no transparency or disclosure. i report every quarter who is giving to my campaign and tell them how many of my contributions were $100 or less. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: you are asking what my campaign would look like if we had those reforms? nothing would change. my campaign is driven by the grassroots. i can see over half of them in here. that is exactly what my campaign is and what it is going to be. moderator: angie? rep. craig: you mentioned this question about elections. i would just remind everyone that even though he is sitting next to me and saying what you hear, he actually sued to invalidate the results of the election in minnesota. cnn and "the washington post" have categorized him as an election denier. mr. kistner: i thought you waved me off. i thought we were done with that. what i was trying to uphold was minnesota state election law. the reason that the state law was not upheld because congresswoman craig was going to challenge the law. ultimately, she won, and we got rid of a state election law, and it is pushed up to the federal government. rep. craig: i've got nothing. now her -- moderator: now we are going to heat it up. this is a two-part question for both candidates, and tyler, you are up first on this one. just making sure. [no audio] the second part is, would you abide by and accept the rules of this election to select a representative from cd 2? mr. kistner:mr. kistner: there is no way of denying it, biden is the president. look at gas prices. you know that joe biden is the president. yes, i will accept the results of the 2022 election because the people have been frustrated the last two years, and we will make sure their voice is heard. rep. craig: you will accept the results of the next election as long as you wind the next election. that is what you just said, tyler. let me start by saying that you sued twice in the last election to overturn minnesota's results. you've been called an election denier by cnn and "the washington post." you didn't answer marie's question appeared joe biden won the last election. i was there on the house floor, and up in the gallery the day we tried to certify that election, and i can tell you this. i will abide by the results no matter the outcome in the 2022 election because that is what people who support democracy do. mr. kistner: i'm going to talk with bill austin later, because i think he has a special deal for you on a hearing aid. i think you are misrepresenting. rep. craig: this is what you do. you sue the state twice to overturn the election. you won't admit it. you just said if you win, you will appeal -- [no audio] i've read from you that you are pro-life, you are pro-trump, and you pretend to be the boy in the store. -- the boys next door. you are too extreme for minnesota's second district. mr. kistner: it's getting fun now. i will just say simply, congresswoman craig, i haven't seen a more dishonest campaign than i've seen from you, and i think that is unbecoming of a congressional member of the second congressional district and shows how far you will lie to people to keep your political power. moderator: thank you very much on these questions. i am going to move onto another sensitive subject. if we can keep our voices a little more quiet, that would be great. there have been ads regarding the supreme court overturning roe v. wade, lots of uncertainty in clarity on what positions are. i would like to hear from each of you what your position is, and if there are any exceptions to turning over roe v. wade. we start with angie first and then tyler. rep. craig: my position has been clear from the start. i voted twice to codify roe into law to make sure every woman in america has the rights to her own body, own choice, own reproductive rights, and my opponent has said he is 100% pro-life. he said he thought the abortion ban bill introduced in congress that would send doctors to prison "sounds reasonable." he signed a pledge that he would leave any law in place if elected to congress. let me tell you what has happened to american women. one in three american women have lost to the reproductive rights since roe v. wade was overturned. nine states have banned abortion even in the cases of rape and incest. you have the power to make sure that every woman in america has reproductive rights. moderator: tyler? mr. kistner: out of any candidate, i've been the only one who had to clarify his position for 15 media outlets in the state. i am the father of a little girl, and women's health rights are important to me. i will never do anything to jeopardize women's health rights. i am pro-life with the exceptions of rape, incest and life of the mother, but this issue should be left to the states. abortion laws in minnesota are not changing anytime soon. congresswoman craig voted twice for a bill that would allow abortion up to the point of birth. rep. craig: that is absurd. roe allowed for third trimester abortions only in the case of the life of the mother. which you said that you are for. reproductive rights, freedom, when did the republican party become the party of telling people what they can do in their doctors offices? if you are for freedom and individual liberty, you have to be for reproductive rights. i will always trust a woman and her family to make this decision more than a politician, and your comments about my position really reflect why no politician should be able to have any say in this at all. moderator: tyler, a few more seconds. mr. kistner: there's nothing else to say about this. moderator: we are now getting towards the end. it has been a lively, spirited conversation, so let's move into the closing comments. each will have 2:00, and tyler, we start with you. mr. kistner: marie, thank you so much for this wonderful opportunity. it got a little fun at times, and a special thank you to all the regional chambers. thank you for all of the effort in putting this on the. we discussed a lot of issues facing americans, but i want to talk to the people in the second congressional district who have been struggling to put food on the table because of these 40-year highs we've been dealing with due to the policies that congresswoman craig and joe biden have been putting in place. i understand your difficulties. those difficulties are the same reasons i stood up to run for congress for my children's future and for future generations. it is my family. it is your family. it is your businesses that cannot survive another two years of these disastrous policies that have made the cost of living out of reach for everybody. it is an easy solution of how to fix this. rain in government spending, start tapping into american energy dominance, and start investing back into american resources in manufacturing to bring back a stronger american economy. we can strengthen our economy to put us on the pathway towards prosperity, and we can make living affordable again in this country by lowering inflation. we can work together to bring greater prosperity for our children and future generations. i started with this comment. it is a simple question you have to ask yourself the next 26 days. can you survive another two years of joe biden and angie craig possible leadership, or do you want the next two years to be a check and balance to these policies and make sure it is the beginning of a path to recovery and prosperity echo mr. kistner: thank you, again. i would ask for your support and vote on november 8. moderator: thank you. angie? rep. craig: thank you to the dakota regional chamber. it is clear voters have an important place between now and november 8, a choice between david jodey and big pharma, a choice between a world where women make health care decisions and a world where politicians think they should decide. this race boils down to contrast, some -- someone who is clear about what she believes and is candidate, and someone who hides his positions from his website. someone who is going to stand up to central -- special interests versus someone who stands behind them. someone working every day to lower costs versus someone who says, this issue of inflation is helping republicans politically. i am proud of what we have accomplished over these last four years, and i have proven i will work with anybody with a good idea. president trump even signed four of my bills into law. that is why i've been named in the common ground committee of the top 3% of all bipartisan members of congress. our district is one of only 31 true swing seats left in the united states. my constituents are deeply independent. they have integrity, and i've done my best to embody that as your member of congress. whether we agree or disagree, i will always listen to you, and i will always show up, and i'll always take your questions. it is great to see you today. tyler on the other hand hides his abortion stance because he knows it is too extreme. he funnels money to himself through content -- campaign contributions to himself, and he got caught. he let big pharma dictate his agenda because they fund his campaign. with tyler, it is about politics and power. i will always stand up for your rights and freedoms, and it is my honor to serve you. thank you, and i humbly ask for your vote. moderator: thank you, angie. on behalf of the dakota county regional chamber of commerce, my special thanks to the candidates for taking time to share your views and your perspectives. that is what this is all about. i appreciate both of you being here today. i want to thank michael -- where are you? thank you for your support, and to the facilities and operations and maintenance staff of dct c, this is a great group of people. michael, i couldn't be more pleased to work with your team. jody miller and joe, thank you so much. we wouldn't be able to pull this off without you. a special thank you to our sponsors, velocity public affairs, and most importantly to our chamber partners, i know that tim zucker is in the back. please waive to everyone. thank you so much. he is the president of the shock up he area chamber. i know amanda is here from the st. paul area chamber. thank you very much. this is what partnership is all about. most importantly, i want to thank you, our audience, for being here today. i hope that you have got something out of this. we have heard differing opinions, and that's ok. that is ok. i hope the goal is when you leave, you are more informed, and you will go vote

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