Interviews with survivors. That is at 7 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan. Coming up next on cspan, the Bbc Parliament westminster review. Then the state department discusses the conflict between russia and the ukraine. At 11 00, another chance to see q a with glenn kessler. The British Parliament is in recess, so Prime Ministers questions without we seem to. Will not be seen tonight. Instead, a look back. Topics include efforts to combat isis, of the british economy, m scotlands decision to stay in the u. K. Lisa mccarthy hosts program which concludes with a look ahead to the general elections. Hello there, and welcome to westminster and review. The economic recovery may be underway, but always best to handle the future who is best to handle the future . A longterm economic plan, on the course for prosperity. We have balance the books in a fair way with a longterm plan to save the nhs. Also on this program, how to tackle the rise of islamic extremism at home and abroad. A series of inquiries rise to establish a child abusers got away with her crime. And after scotland says no to independence voters there and in the u. K. What is next for voters there and in the u. K. It is not fair for scotland to vote on things that are. Lets start with the economy. The trexler says that his latest facts and figures in a chancellor sets out his latest facts and figures in a budget. Normally the figures are secret, but this year there was an announcement. For the health service, the money is to support doctors and nurses. There was more money for roads too, with funds for a longawaited project. Basic that it is not new and will benefit coalition constituencies. What will be just let what will be chancellor have left to announce on his big day . There may be short trip to the commons to unveil his final statement before the general elections are very made the short trip to the comments to unveil his final statement before the general elections. Over the last year, we have grown 2. 5 times faster than germany, over three times faster than the your ozone over seven times faster than friends. Euro zone, and over seven times faster than friends. France. Rhythm is living within its means and the economic plan is on course. Brits and is living within its means and the economic plan is on course. There are those who say we should faster or slower but we have the basepace right. This was his finale. River is on course for surplus, on course for lower taxes, on course for hire growth course for a national recovery, a longterm economic plan, on a course to prosperity. Is featuring died away, the chancellor as featuring died away, the chancellor got to his speech. We had promised a balanced budget by the end of the parliament. Today they announced that the deficit next year is forecast to be 75. 9 billion pounds. Can be chancellor confirmed that number . And that the National Debt is forecast not to fall to rise . Wages have not kept pace with prices for 5253 months. Todays forecast of firms that wage growth is once again weaker than expected. Working people are 1600 pounds a year worse off than they were 2010. Somewhat in fulltime work is pound thousands of pounds worse off. When you recovery for the many not just a few. We will balance the books in a longterm way. It will take a labor government to deliver it. Then it was over to the back benches. Chatting with two former chancellors. Did i hear him right when he was claiming having the deficit . Because it used to be a terribly good thing to be doing. [laughter] he is proposing to evolve considerable powers to the various nations and cities of the United Kingdom. Jenny reassure us that he will combine can you reassure us that he will combine this with commitments to financial responsibility . Was the chancellor said is that the target for this year has not been. Been met. That the borrowing far from being 20 billion, will be almost four times that at 75 billion pounds. Why should the public believe is the government does the same thing, it will be any different than the failure . The economy is going to be crucial in the runup to the election in may, but what future will be companies be attempting to paint what futures will be parties be attempting to paint . David cameron is a bit of a dilemma on his hands and that on december the third, the office of audit responsibilities of that the economy was picking up faster than expected. They want to emphasize that it is not over yet and the job is not done. They are balancing between boasting the economy is recovering and saying why the need to continue to be in government next year to continue with the guts. Cuts. Were edward David Cameron had to say about the red light of the dashboard. What is he trying to do their . Americas growing and china is slowing down in japan is in a recession. It is political sleight of hand to point to what is happening elsewhere and say that this could happen to us but ultimately it will be trying to flag up the fact that people should not be too comforted by the recovery and that we could go and when recession. The parties are supporting themselves ahead of the election. What should we see their . It is five months before the election so cracks are appearing there. Their leader has said that basically after the deficit has been eliminated, they will not continue to shrink the state as the tories want to. These is trying tuesday got the middle ground between the conservatives and labor he is trying to state out the middle ground between the conservatives and labor. They are going to have to expect cuts. All parties through 2015 in 2016 but after that it does differ widely. The difference in physical positive between conservatives and labor is the largest that it has been since 1992. Labor are only considering cutting the daytoday deficit and not the federal deficit, and that will leave a 5 billion deficit by the end of next parliament. The do not want to be harsh on welfare as conservatives. We have come to the Parliament Central lobby, the crossroads between the common on the lords. And the lords. It has been quiet with the and these away for the recess. This september, old houses were recalled. The reason, the continuing rise of islamic extremism in syria and iraq. Islamic state extremists captured the iraqi city of mosul and strengthen their hold over other cities and towns and seized territory in syria. Estimates suggest they may have 35,000 jihadists fighting for them but there is an outrage of the brutality and the hostages being held and beheaded. David cameron explained why he wanted to u. K. To join airstrikes against the militants in iraq. Isis is a terrorist organization unlike those we have dealt with the four. The brutality four. The brutality is unlike what we have incredible. It is not just the brutality, it is backed by billions of dollars and has captured an arsenal of the most modern weapons. In the space of a few months, isil has taken control of territory greater than the size of britain and has made millions selling oil. Some will say that any action will further radicalize young people. I have to say that this is a counsel of despair. The threat of radicalization is already here. Young people have left the country to fight for these extremists. We must take action at home but we must also have a comprehensive strategy to defeat these extremists abroad. Students questions euros notebook to himself. Two questions he has not to himself. How long will lead war last the war last and when will Mission Creep set in . This will not take months but years but i believe we have to be prepared for that commitment. The Prime Minister places trust in the iraqi army. The problem is that we are the army and they ran away and now isil as their arms. Is he seriously contending that by airstrikes alone we can rollback isil or is this just politics . I am not claiming that by airstrikes alone we can rollback this problem. What is problem requires is a comprehensive strategy including a well formed Iraqi Government and armed forces because they, in the end will be the ones that have to defeat this on the ground. Will he recognize that killing extremist is not kill their ideas but can spread their ideas and that getting them around the negotiating table will be more effective than m bombing. Why dont we not hearing more about Diplomatic Solutions . Although we may have common cause with russia and with assad and iran over isis they have different views as to what they would see emerge on the ground as a lasting solution in syria. We need to be aware of the dangers that would propose. I do think there is an appetite in the United Kingdom and getting involved in an ongoing operation lasting many years on the ground trying to instill a new order which i do not think there is an appetite in the United Kingdom in getting involved in an ongoing operation lasting many years on the ground trying to instill a new order. [applause] mr. Speaker, lets be clear about what this is. Isil is murdering muslims. Those who say that it is an attack on islam, let me say this. I understand the anxiety including communities in britain, but the truth is entirely different. His muslims themselves were saying it muslims themselves are saying it, leading scholars wrote this, and i quote isil is perpetuating the worst crimes. Nobody is in doubt that it is a Difficult Mission and it will take time but there is evidence that the u. S. Action is having the effect of holding back i saw. Prior isil. Prior to this action, isil was advancing. It is a choice to act or not to act. Most mps spoke in favor of action against isis, but not all. To extremism will spread further and deeper just like happened as a result of the last iraq war. The people outside can see it, but before his in the air draw big salaries and expenses cannot or will not. Saudi arabia has 700 warplanes. Give them to bomb. Turkey is a nato member. Get turkey to bomb. The last people who should be returning to a scene of the former primes britain, france, and the United States of america. Crime is risen, france, and the United States of america. It is not just an these that were recalled. The action proposed there is right but we must not rely on a shortterm solution to a global, ideological, transgenerational challenge. We must demonstrate that there is a positive vision, far greater and more compelling than the evil of isil and its global clones. What sort of a country would we have become if we refuse to play our part in this international endeavor to confront evil . Of course it is true that airstrikes alone will not definitively defeat or destroy isis. In due course, it may be necessary for action of a different kind to be taken. But the imperative now is to continue. Their advance continue to stop their advance. We see men and boys abducted and killed without mercy and women sold as sex slaves, subject to rape and sexual violation including mutilation. The attitude of this group towards women is brutal integrating. Brutal and grading. Degrading. Christianity has been able to go evil what that is no longer happening. The collective evil in radical islam can only be defeated by peaceful islam. As u. S. Jets continued to pound fighters from Islamic State, mps began an inquiry as to how to counter. But the experts said ultimately there was no military solution. Instead there had to be political, particularly in iraq and specifically within the ruling elite in baghdad. We face a serious threat from the Islamic State in terms of stability and the region. The only longterm solution liquid of the work is a political one that could ever work is a political one. Is, in fact, this government is going to be a government backed by iran, based on shiite parties that do not want to make peace with the sunni population and its leaders and representatives, then we have a longterm conflict on our hands. Sex is there a way is there a way we can use an International Coalition to defeat isil. . My view at the moment is no. But there was a role for airstrikes. Airstrikes to change the balance of power at a tactical level. What appears to be militias fighting isils militias, these are company actions, not very large. A few bombs can change the balance in that area, help to contain. The second thing that airstrikes do is connect to the Counterterrorism Initiative elsewhere. If a target. It is a threat to the United Kingdom, we have the freedom to drop a bomb. Target pops up that is a threat to the United Kingdom, we have the freedom to drop a bomb. In themselves, they are not going to come out your debate in 2005 or 2007, or in afghanistan in 2001, bring down the force you are opposing. But it was the brutal murder of this man which brought home the impact of islamic extremism on our street. Rigby was savagely attacked outside his barracks in southeast london. The parliamentary report rules of the murderer not have been prevented but that the killers had appeared in investigations before the attack. The Prime Minister said that although security agencies have made mistakes, the report said they were not significant enough to make a difference. But he called on Internet Companies to do more to counterterrorism. At the start of december, the home secretary interviews new antiterror laws. The counterterrorism bill would ban Insurance Companies from paying ransoms, the duty on universities to counter extremism, and allow the relocation of terrorism in the. U. K. But it was the measure to ban foreign suspects returning home that was the most controversial. Depending on the individual case, it may also require the individuals to perform activities when they are back in the u. K. There is been a lot of interest in the nature of his power, we have seen this already this afternoon, but i want to reassure the house it will not render an individual stateless. All of those concerned will have the rights that their citizenship guarantees to return the u. K. But when they do, it will be on our terms, and quite possibly in the company of a peace officer. In the u. K. , the police will interview them to explore their activities. This is, in effect, exile. It is exiling, in many cases british citizens to another country. All of history suggest that that radicalized its people and makes them more dangerous enemies to this country. Without any judicial process which she is advocating, we are going to make ourselves in more danger rather than less. I would call from the gentleman in relation to this power. He has used the term exile. This is not saying that people cannot return, but they will be returning on the basis that we have set out in the bill and be returning in a way that is managed and we are able to have some control in relation to that. I understand the system that she is putting in place of managed return. What is not clear on the face of the bill is a system that will be present will be present allow that matters requirement to be challenged. I am wondering if you are not the house on that point. If she could help the house on that point. It seems to me that there must be a mechanism that it can be challenged on their return to this country and to do so expeditiously if it is not an unwanted interference with the rights. It will be possible, there will be a formal challenge available to the individual through judicial review. I warmly welcome this measure because many of my constituents like to see people given a one ticket and not coming back to the country and i think she has found a balance. It is unclear exactly what the government wants to achieve from these powers. The Prime Minister says that we are clear in principle but what we need is a targeted exclusionary power to exclude british nationals from the u. K. That is not what this power does. If someone is served with an order and the host country decides to deport them, and will cooperate and able be returned. There is the power to exclude them britain will cooperate and return them. There is the power to exclude them. The suspect does not have been cooperate with the interview only to turn out. So it seems to be a temporary Exclusion Order to give the Prime Minister of the headlines that he wanted. There was one other story that cast a long shadow over westminster. Child abuse. In september, the home Affairs Committees that the day crossexamining senior officials about the abuse. A report found that over a 16 year. Bank, 1400 children had been abused by gangs of men, mostly of pakistani origins. 16 your period, 14,000 children had been 1400 children have been abused by gangs of men, mostly of pakistani origins. We have held Police Authority meetings. I have been to community groups, i have been out there. I have been inspected by her majestys inspector. I did a followup that looked at intelligence. Some of those reports make me sick when i read them last night. I am not immune to the ideas that this is a hideous crime and i am deeply embarrassed. But i can say with honesty that of the time i was told deputies and chief counsel, i had no idea of the scale and the scope of this kind of organized crime. We find is impossible to believe, because we have heard evidence of the most compelling nature this impossible to believe, because you ever evidence of the most compelling nature. And youre saying that the first time you about this is when you read these reports. We find that impossible to believe, mr. Hughes. I have no understanding of the scale and scope of the issues. Not a single case past your sed your desk . They do not go to the chief constables desk. I was mentioned in this group and it did not get mentioned that those meetings and events i was at with them. This is not something i would have turned a blind eye to or something i would have willfully ignored. With respect, those who know me personally know that i would not trade blind eye or cover up. I take no pleasure in this. I have 36 years of his career and yet on this issue i have signally failed the victims of these criminals. The committee then heard from the director for children and young people who says she has no plans to resign. Yo