Apparently cliven bundy, more sophisticated mother, al, more athletic brother, king kong. Cliven bundy has been grazing his cattle illegally in nevada about 20 years now, about 1 million in grazing fees, penalties and fees, fortunately he is ignored court orders of cease and desist. The federal bureau of Land Management came to take his cattle, it is your standard cow has, boy has cow for 20 years, boy loses cow stories, or so we thought. Hundreds of armed militia men rally to support the bend difficults. Heading them off at gunpoint. He joined the protesters, he and other militia men are not afraid to shoot if necessary. We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front, if they are going to start shooting it is going to be women that are going to be televised all across the world getting shot but these rogue federal officers. Jon anyway, happy valentines day, sweety. He seems kind of apparently we have ourselves a standoff at wounded loin, yes. The armed standoff over this man illegally grazing his cattle is the subject of tonights new segment, i dont get it. Brought to you by huh . Huh . It is a sound you make when you dont get it. Look, i understand this is the west, Everyone Wants to romanticize it, last frontier of liberty, riding the rails on the open range, eating a tremendous amount of beans around the campfire, not caring about the normal social consequences of eating those beans because who is going to complain . The coyotes . Not if they know what is good for them. Babing babing. Thats the noise you make to scare them away. How is this guy bundy a hero how is this guy bundy a hero for ignoring federal law and what is the justification . I abide by all of nevada state laws, but i dont recognize the United States government as even existing. [laughter. ] jon i am as against government overreach as the next guy, but i dont think the federal government is overreaching by saying it exists. This guy heck, i am just a simple fellow, some folks call a car tiegs, rene descartes. And without immediate sensory proof, i wont take the United States government existence as prima facie existence. Just all bleep in the jars. I have to pay you for grazing my imaginary brain jar cattle . Who do you take me for . Jon rock . Patoo patoo right now, somewhere a junior philosophy major just bleep ed in his pants. All right. Things, to prove the government exists did you look at the end of that. You see that thing you are holding there, fellow . If you ou reject the federal American Government at least have the decency to create your own damned flag. I dont give the confederacy credit for much but at least they had a Graphic Design team worth a bleep . So, so the court isnt on bundys side or the government, even the nevada government isnt on his side, who is on his side . Have you thought about why you think your case has resonate sod much with the American People . Hannity i still dont get it. It is not like they want to build a school, a road or a hospital. That land is going to stay vacant whether or not your cattle are on it or not, right . When your cattle graze there, that keeps the price of meat down for every american consumer. Yes, it is cheaper when you steal the Raw Materials necessary for meat. In fact have you seen the prices at fell off the truck mart . So apparently sean hannity thinks laws are cart blank style. The ones you dont like wont, you dont have to abide. But the immigration healthcare law pundit, a mr. Sean hannity. You believe we should obey the laws you want to obey. Obey the laws you like . No, no. Thats all . Why dont you join with me, juan and say everybody should who bay the law, tell me how the president can unilaterally pick and choose which part of the law he will uphold at whatever time he chooses. Jon the guy is not even wearing a cowboy hat. Apparently he selects cowboy hats which laws you will obey like a legal swording hat. By the way, that is the worst harry potter ever. Or maybe sean just respects people who fight for their principles, even after they lose their case in court. A group of atheists lost their battle with the state of utah over 14 steel cross highway memorials, and the judges ruling, you guys lost. That will be overturned. It is law. Jon ah. I guess unless your friends are armed and ready to have your womenfolk shot. [laughter. ] jon now, i know you dont like people scamming off the taxpayers, sean. My next guest is a california surfer, he lives on food stamps, i want you to realize you are taking other peoples money and you are living a selfish life. Jon first of all [laughter. ] jon there is no way that bleep that guys hair. Did you see that . That is young hair but underneath those glasses is an old face. And otherwise hannity would be fine for hannity paying for his meals if he had other hair. Also it would be cool to see a surfing cow. It seems like something about this bundy feller is blinding hannity to all the things that would normally drive hannity mad with rage this is it the hat because we can give him a different hat. And you know what . Maybe a different hairstyle. And a new shirt. And a pair of devil sticks. Oh, no, he is an occupy wall street protester. Trespassing on land that doesnt belong to him, get em, sean you are protester of the day and you go home at night and take a shower. Take over a park and sleep on the street. Jon now that is the way you talk to a trespasser who votes differently than you. How out there is hannity on this issue . I have cattle. And i have people that graze on my land, grazing fees are normal, and you stopped paying them. There are some people that would say that you are, let me quote a welfare rancher. Jon sean hannity has now made glenn beck the voice of reason. [laughter. ] [ applause ] jon if you want, if you want to challenge the amount of federal land the government owns in the state of nevada, fine, make your case to the voters, if you want to challenge the concept of grazing fees, fine but hannitys puffery and armed friends dont make you a patriot. Maybe i am a little bit like the founding fathers. Jon your welfare rancher is trying to pull off the largest cattle dine and. Old spice take a look what youve done youve made a sexy man right out of my son old spice [ old spice whistle ] [ male announcer ] haagendazs gelato. Inspired by italy and made like no other. Everybody here got the lunchtime blues they need to be inspired Something Better than the rest. New lipton peach iced tea with that ham and cheese it tastes so sunshiney [ carl ] drink it down and youll believe the taste of peachiosity [ carl ] drink it down from the big screen to Small Screens near and far twizzlerize your entertainment every day with twizzlers. The twist you cant resist. Dad. How i dont know. Ere . speaking in russian look, look, look. You probably want to get away as much as we do. With priceline express deals, you can get a fabulous hotel without bidding. Think of the rubles youll save. One touch, fun in the sun. I like fun. Well, that went exactly as i planned. Really . [ applause ] jon thank you very much. You may recall last month when prorussian maish i cants took over the Crimean Peninsula and handed it to russia, many thought the militias were not only prorussian but russian. Russian president Vladimir Putin knew different. Those are local self defense units. Jon you have to take the man at his word. Come on. Look at that face. With that, would that face lie to you . Dont answer that because that face would kill you with poison. Actually, that face did lie to you. Vladimir putin in the meantime spoke on russian tv for the first time he admitted the troops in unmarked uniforms who took crimea before its annexation by moscow were, in fact, russian soldiers. Jon april fools. In february. Ordinarily, i would let by gonzales be by gonzales but large parts of Eastern Ukraine are now filled with the mysterious militias, taking over government buildings and not only taking ukrainian tanks, they are doing things with them i didnt think you could do. I have to tell you, man, with all due respect to ukraine that is but at least now putin is more accustomed to telling the truth i am sure he will level as to russian involvement. This is nonsense. There are no russian units in the east of the ukraine. Jon well, his lips may know but the other guy that was talking says, look. He lies all the time, so you know what else . If we had some kind of photographic proof that the myish whereas in the ukraine are actually russian soldiers new photos provided to a european monitoring body and published by the New York Times just today give some insight as to who has been seizing government zoo sites in Eastern Ukraine, these link the gunmen known as green men to russia. Jon really . That is your evidence . Chunky guy with a beard . It looks like every other guy in eastern europe. That is every other guy on the planet. Like twothirds of zz top. Come on. I think that is like the guy that produced the beastie boys first album. Look i am starting to think russia hasnt invaded crimea but a documentary prank by joaquin phoenix. I am going to need more evidence these militia then are not just locals. The talked to locals in the town people at the barricades speak with russian accents and dont know their way around. Jon i guess they werent doing doughnuts in the tanks, they were just so lost they were driving in circles. They said it was lawful. I dont know. I dont know where i am going. I am just i am just hungry. Jon now that we know these are russian it is question is, how should america deal with it and please frame your answer with the stupidest option we can take. We need to do some things tactically. We need to give them lethal weapons, give them 100 t72 tanks from nato stocks. Jon we did that already and the russians took them and started doing doughnuts in the parking lot of the russian 711 is there anyone in russia who can pin putin now. U. S. Former u. S. Spy contractor having his first known public conversation with Vladimir Putin. Jon oh bleep . It is the snow man oh, yeah falcon and the snow man if anybody can hold putins feet to the fire it is this cat. Does russia intercept store or analyze in any way the communications of millions of individuals . Jon oh how is ott vladdy going to get out of, he is vladdy going to get out of this one. We dont have a system of interception. According to our law, it cannot exist. Jon touche. Who would ever have thought putin could outwit a prerecorded question from a man whose life question from a man whose life is in his yo, untamed larger than life, question from a man whose life is in his move fast fruit flavor, watermelon, blue razz green apple. Your taste buds dancing. Its the jolly rancher, we make it happen. Untamed fruit flavor. Jolly rancher. Yeah. I heard about progressives name your price tool . I guess you can tell them how much you want to pay and it gives you a range of options to choose from. Huh . Im looking at it right now. Oh, yeah . Yeah. Whats the. Guest room situation . The name your price tool, making the world a little more progressive. Jon my guest tonight the administrator of the Environmental Protection agency, please welcome Gina Mccarthy [ applause ] jon . Thank you. [ applause ] jon welcome to the program. First of all as a bostonian, i say to you congratulations on a beautiful marathon today. Beautifully done. Very joyous, really lovely. Thank you. Boston proud. Jon yes. Really well done. [ applause ] boston strong. Jon it was i was going to run in it, but then i remembered i am decrepit. I knew that before jon you are very kind. How long have you been in the new position . Oh, just about six, seven months. Jon and are we clean yet . The hair, the water . Huge, Huge Movement forward since i started, yes. Jon tremendous . Yes. Jon what is for you stepping in what is your priority . Well, i share the president s priority of dealing with the issue of Climate Change, first and foremost. Jon now, see, that is the first part of that issue getting over half the congress to admit that it is happening . Actually, we tried that first. Jon how did that go . Not well, not well. Not well. Actually, the president , what is great even before i started the job he put out a Climate Action plan and what he said was the administration is going to take action, we are not waiting for climate. He started it as part of the leadership the president has to bring to the country and also is looking at i think what is a father of two beautiful children and he stood up and said it is a moral obligation. I agree with him. We have got to fight for the next generation. Jon but what would what would do it . You know, we have to fight for it. If you talked to the fossil fuel companies they would say, any type of restriction on what they do would lead us to an economic apocalypse if you talked to the scientists they say by not doing it we will have a climate apocalypse. I guess my question is, which apocalypse should i pray for . Because i am choosing between two apocalypses. They have to look at the history. Epa a has been around for 40 years and we learned a way to avoid apocalypses we clean up the air, 70 percent in our air pollution while we doubled the gdp, it can be done and with climate we have to move forward in a common sense way. Take a look at what the president did in his Light Vehicle rule jon oh, sitting looking and what the president it is whatever that thing is. Fuel efficient cars. Jon thats what i am doing. I have what you call a nesting hummer. A hummer inside a hummer inside a hummer. Sounds russian. Jon it is it is it might not be russian, though. Jon its true. He doubled the fuel economy by 2020 five, that lowered significantly Greenhouse Gas emissions from sources and at the same time you will get more fuel efficient cars and the Car Companies didnt die. Jon i dont think there is any question we are doing fine in the economy and all of these regulations put the mom and pop Oil Companies out of business. That didnt come out right. You know what i am talking about. You know, if you had your druthers, lets say you guys, you didnt have to convince half the congress this is real, what would you do . I dont think we would do have to convince them it is real. The scientists tell us it is real. What we are actually trying to do is take common sense steps in moving forward. One of the things we are doing in june is we are doing a Carbon Pollution standard for power plants. Jon right. The power plants are the biggest source of Greenhouse Gases. Jon are there no Carbon Pollution standards for them presently. No. There is not a standard on carbon with these power plants. And we think it is just as noxious as sulfur and we are going to go for it. Jon what is the differential . Not because i am speaking for a friend, it is not like i burn things in my backyard. I am just curious, how much is there now and how much are we looking at . We are going to regulate it under the Clean Air Act and it tells us we have to take steps forward to reduce it. We are going to take a look at what we need to do and we are going to make it flexible, you are going to get some significant Greenhouse Gas reduction out of it. Really you can do that, it is safe, and communities have been reducing their Greenhouse Gas emissions for a long time. We are not talking about taking any fuel out of the system. Jon right. We are talking about making things more efficient. We are talking about investments in efficiency. We are talking about Renewable Energy and talking about a future that is actually looks pretty good. Jon but cant you make a more winning argument this is about efficiency and about creating energy in a better way because i think if you say to these companies we dont want to pollute with carbon they will say what about, what about chinas economy . What about indias economy . What about these growing, you know, we got ours in the industrial revolution, what about these countries that are now building their middle classes and what about states like texas that dont listen . Actually [laughter. ] we are actually not talking about going backwards. We are talking about positioning the u. S. For the future, as well as those companies. They know they can invest in Renewable Energy and know they can make it work in an energy mix and so our job really is to try to drive those reductions nationally but to make sure every state is differently positioned. Some have already done really Aggressive Energy efficient city work and we can do a whole lot more. Jon but how much is the might be, even with the boiler rules they had, they made a big deal about it would save 6,000 lives and by jon i knew but i thought it was funny. And it is a thing i do, oh, look at me. Save 6,600 lives they come up with a standard, what is it in february 2011 but they dont implement it until after the election, and posted an article this is political pressure, they say, i mean, how much of that is real . The timeline in the rule is set in statute. Jon i mean when it gets implemented. I know it is in the statute. That is what is in the statute is when it needs to be implement sod none of this is following politics. Jon i see. It is following, i hope and i think, what is best for america. And if we dont start dealing with Climate Change which is the biggest Public Health challenge that we face, as well as the biggest economic challenge we face, and think of it both from an environmental and an economic standpoint, then i think we will lose it for the next generation and our own, frankly. [ applause ] jon i appreciate you being here and next year, you will run the marathon, yes . We will talk about that. Jon all right. Well, thank you very much for being here, i appreciate it. Gina mccart