Captioning sponsored by Comedy Central captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org february 4, 2013. From Comedy Centrals world news headquarters in new york, this is the daily show with jon stewart. cheers and applause captioning sponsored by Comedy Central jon welcome to the daily show. My name is jon stewart. Former chancellor of washington d. C. Public School SystemMichelle Rhee is going to be joining us here. Stay in school. Dont drop out and get high and come to a taping of the show. And ask the host, whats is your script, man . Whats on there . cheers and applause is it the letter g . We have fun here. Listen. Lets begin tonight with last night. A sporting event know encapsulates the entire tee of what it means to be an american. An event know begins with an emotional salute to the victims of gun violence quickly gives way with a promotional salute to the glorifying of said gun violence. Bangbang time. Jon yes, it is. Bangbang time. Didnt realize it had taken such a dark turn. We cheered as men committed brutal violence one another and then complained bitterly at the sight of two people kissing. And a multimillion dollar sound and light show was immediately followed by yet another sign that our basic infrastructure is on the verge of collapse. Couldnt find a football movie where the lights went out. Last night was a big bowl of super. Anybody out there with red blood coursing through their veins watched the ravens squeeze by the San Francisco 49ers all while eating food designed to stop red blood from coursing through their veins. Dont mind if i do. Anybody can pretend to be a real american and watch it. I take it up a notch. I skeet shoot while i watch. Skeet shoot all the time, man. When im watching tv, i skeet shoot. Inside. Outside. Thats not photo shopped. Theres no way to photo shop a skeet shoot picture. As with any Great American conflict, this game pit brother against brother. Each wondering who would finally win the game and with it the long lost love of their parents. By half time with the score 216 it appeared the game was all but over. Thats when she walked in. Amazing vocals, breath taking choreography and of course whatever this was. She even let two lucky contest winners join her on stage. You didnt like that one, huh . cheers and applause actually it was very nice to see destinys child back together again or as George Stephanapolous calls them the pointer sisters thats morgan freeman, i think. Jon never gets old. You know, after beyonces performance, if you liked it, you should have put a fuse on it. Just as baltimores jacoby jones seemingly put the game out of reach. This is about a piece of electronic equipment that monitors the feeding into the stadium. Officials are calling it, quote, an abnormality jon oh, right. An abnormality. yelling why did you mumbling . How many Football Players saw that . The wins and losses black out the performance aside, the real contest took place amongst americas foremost products who competed for the opportunity to be buzzed about. With an estimated global audience of everybody. The super bowl is the companys best chance to get its message across to america. Messages like our candy feels pain when you eat it. And our chips are so good, even a goat will eat them. Interestingly though, that ad wasnt the one that wound up being the most talked about. It might be the most controversial ad of the super bowl, this ad from godaddy called Perfect Match where super model bar rafaeli locks lips with a geekylooking engineer jon because she was kissing a jew . Is that why . Oh, its so disgusting to kiss a jew. Is that it . Whats that . Im being told that thats not why people were upset. The source was apparently americas belief that affection should only take place between looksequals. Hes not a. screaming . By the way how was this objectionable . But everybody was perfectly fine about the ad where the guy was clearly [bleep] his horse. applause im not saying i blame him. It was a fine lacking horse. In the end the ravens prevailed. The game was a swan song for 17year veteran linebacker ray loom it. Ray lewis, im sorry. Seen her portrayed as a very angry badger. The inspirational figure to his teammates lewis story is complicated by some personal troubles. A little matter of. Ill let boomer explain he was involved in a double murder jon involved in a double murder. A little double murder. As knute rockne used to call them, the old double murderoo. In the pregame interview, ray lewis offered up a novel defense for his actions what would you like to say to the families to the family, if you knew, if you really knew the way god works, he dont use people who commit anything like that. For his glory. No way. Its the total opposite. Jon wow. Must be quite the comfort to families of those murder victims. The news that god makes sure everybody gets what they deserve. Still thats the case. Then criminal trials would go a lot faster. Your honor, what evidence do you believe in the victims blood found in my clients limousine . Would god allow a murderer to go to 13 . I rest my faith. By the end of this long and complicated day our senses had been beaten into submission and numbed by excess. Just as i began to question this annual ritual of violence and consumerism, i saw this one final commercial. In the eternal debate for answers, the one thing that is true is whats true for you. Jon and i realized after seeing that that i actually [bleep] the super bowl. Guys getting hit really hard. Beer trucks, chips. I found my answer sighen to go and it was inside my refrigerator the whole time. Well be right. cheers and applause jon welcome back. While watching the super bowl, americans always keep one eye or two on our biggest rivals abroad iran and china. Take your eyes off one second and they start pulling stuff. China, last week the New York Times says hackers have been attacking his Computer System for the past four months. Chinese hackers reportedly stole email passwords for every single New York Times employee. Jon thats it . Thats your big attack . Youre the guys who beat the [bleep] out of us in math and science. You send your elite hacker squad out and all they get is Maureen Dowds email address. Its like trying to starve us by disrupting our vegetable supply. You want our attention, hack our tv news. Today as cnn tried to cover the news about the hacking story, the Chinese Government blacked out the story. China is literally watching cnn on air with the finger on a button jon thats not just the chinese. Thats pretty much how we all watch cnn. Im wolf blitzer. Youre in the. Jon jon hits button . cheers and applause i have to say, china, im not feeling that threatened. Maybe iran could pick up the slack. Now the greatest achievements of irans Space Program to date, the Islamic Republic enters a monkey into space and recovers his safely. Jon or you could shoot a monkey into space. No one was more excited about this than the monkey himself. Seen here doing his impression of hans solo in carbonite. Iran, you think the c. I. A. You just got pita on your [bleep]. That guys dont [bleep] around. Not for nothing. A little propaganda advice. You cant brag to us. We did that 50 years ago. We had been launching space monkeys before you had us overthrow your democratically elected government. Im sorry. It was eisenhowers idea. Whats next, iran . This is the second time iran sent live animals into space. Including a mouse, a turtle and a worm into orbit in 2010. Jon islamic space mouse, turtle and worm all of which inspired the hit, shia pets. laughing i just want to bring your attention to this. There is actually a worm in a space suit. A turtle, a mouse, a monkey and there is a worm just in case. I believe old wormy is what they call him. One slight problem somehow the monkey who got shot into space wasnt like the monkey who supposedly came back. That can mean only one of two things. Either the launch was a dud and iran is covering up its failure or and i think this is more likely they have secretly built the first all primate orbital cosmetic surgery spa. The monkey gets a nip and tuck. Any shortterm swelling or bruises when he gets back, hes like i just got back from space. Cut me some slack. You know who this will be huge about. The little outpatient procedure. Nice. Now thats a monkey id like to [bleep]. 1e,x6;h8g99gx welcome back. My guest tonight, she is a former chancellor of the washington d. C. Public school. Her new book is called radical, fighting to put students first. Please welcome to the program Michelle Rhee. Welcome to the show. How are you . Good. Jon radical. Putting students first. Its so interesting. You inspire such. People either love you or theyre real mad at you. Youre somewhat of a controversial figure. Does that. Do you feel that . Do you understand it . Why would you say that . You know, when i first went to d. C. And became the chancellor there, it was the Lowest Performing School district in the country. I started making a lot of changes that i felt were obvious ones. Close lowperforming schools. Cut the Central Office bureaucracy. Remove ineffective educators. I was a little shocked when people started saying shes a lightning rod and a radical. Because i thought what i was doing was just sort of bringing, you know, order and reason to the system. So, you know, at the end of the day i feel like its bringing common sense to a dysfunctional system makes me a radical then im okay being a radical. I think everybody should be one. cheers and applause jon sure. Now, do you think. See, i am the son of a teacher. So im not. Its hard to be objective about it. Do you think some of peoples concern is what you might consider and obvious you say fired ineffective teachers, close some dysfunctional schools that they might be concerned that the metrics with which those are decided in their minds might be more arbitrary not to suggest that isnt a terrible bureaucracy in schools or there isnt any of those things but the reliance on the testing metric skewed some of the data for people and that they were concerned that those decisions were being based on arbitrary system they didnt necessarily agree with . I come from teachers too. My grandfather was an educator. My grandmother on my mothers side. I have four aunts. My best friend. My sisterinlaw. Ive always been surrounded by teachers my entire life. Thats why i have such an incredible regard for what teachers can do but when i got to d. C. , i was leading a system where 8 of the 8th graders in the city schools were operating on grade level in mathematics when i got there. Yet when i looked at the performance evaluations of the adults at the same time 98 of them were being written as doing an excellent job. You cant run an Effective Organization when you have that kind of a disconnect between, you know, what people are supposed to be doing and the results that were producing for kids. Now i think that without a doubt todays teacher Evaluation System are broken. Theres a move now to fix them. A lot of teachers are worried about the use of test scores and whether that is fair or not. I think that what weve got to do is focus on the system that does. Is fair and transparent for teachers but at the same time does hold folks accountable for the academic growth we see with kids jon this is interesting. From any of the conversations i have with teachers they all talk about the frustrations that they have with this idea of the test being the all mighty word. That there is a math and reading metric that is established by the state or the federal government that does not in anywaanyany. Any way measure a possible students potential or success, a possible teachers potential success. Yet that is the thing they are tied to not just for their teaching curriculum but for money, for money for the school, for all these things. How do we, as you say, how do we move them from what theyve established here because thats very recent, to what youre talking about, if what youre talking about is moving away from the test what im saying is there has to be a balance. You dont want an overemphasis on the test. If thats the only thing that people are concerned about. Yet you cant have no accountability, right . Because we for a very long time in cities Like Washington d. C. And places across the country, we were producing generations of kids who were graduating from high school but they didnt know how to read and write and do math on grade level. So theres got to be a ball afternoons in there. And sort of a fairness in there about it. I think the bottom line is that there is no one in the country that i know of who is advocating that we evaluate teachers solely on the basis of test scores. I think that the vast majority of people who are reformers are saying we have to look at student achievement growth but we also have to look at other metrics and measures like observations of their classroom practice. Surveys of kids in their classroom and the parents who send their kids into that classroom everyday jon are we hanging them out to dry by coming in there every three years and saying heres the new reform. Its the test. Youre going to teach to that. If you dont increase your test scores by 10 youre fired. And then two years later come back in and go not that test, this test. You know, theyre demoralized. They dont have any. Its like a Football Team that keeps getting a new offensive coordinator every year. Its very difficult to be inspired by that. Schools are as much an art form. Teaching is as much an art form as it is an objective reality so i remember talk to go a teacher when i was in d. C. Once. She said, you know what . Im a good soldier. Im not a rabble rouser. I just want to do the right thing for you, for the kids, the district. Can you just tell me what you want me to do because i have this huge state curriculum. I have all these learning standards. Then i have the standardized tests that we have to take and these benchmark assessments and the teachers guide and the, you know, the everyday. All these things. Just tell me what you want me to do and ill do it. Right now theres just so much stuff. I think that is a frustration. We have to be very clear with our educators about what great teaching and learning looks like, what we expect to see when we into their classroom jon the School System seems to have moved away from any practical reality in the modern world. There hasnt been any innovation in education since john dewey but, you know, theres that idea that we no longer have a connection to the way the real world works and the way schools should work in communities. It just seems like a much larger problem. Teachers seem like one tool. With which to get education in this country back on track. But they seem to be the only tool that ever gets yell at. I just ruined my own metaphor. I had the whole tool thing working. Hammered jon exactly. All kinds of. Poverty, family stuff. Communities. But teachers are the only one we look at and go, so, fix it. Or youre fired. I think that the reason why people are paying so much attention to teachers and teacher quality is because the research is very clear that if all of the inschool factors that exist, its the quality of teacher in front of the classroom every day that has the most impact on students lives. Does poverty matter . Absolutely. That makes it much more challenging for kids to come into school everyday, for teachers to teach them effectively but the reality is that if we want to live up to the ideals of this country, the values of america and we want those kids one day to be able to escape poverty we know that the best tool to do that is through education. Thats why weve got to make sure that every kid has a great teacher in front of them everyday jon if you could stick around for a little, it seems like education can only be put in place once the soil is fertile. If the soil is not fertile, you know, teaching in a barren environment is still a very difficult place to grow tools. Radical. Its on the book shelves now. Well have a little bit more with michelle