Jon hey, welcome to the daily show my name is jon stewart. Good show today. Fabulous author jon meacham. Hes written a biography of jefferson. Cher monohelmsley. laughter . laughter hooray me last night we had on the program Jason Sudeikis from s. N. L. A tremendous, very, very funny man, plays mitt romney and joe biden on the show and he was making a joke on the show about how wouldnt it be funny if in this election it turned out that romney and biden had both won and ended up as president and Vice President , wouldnt that have been funny and i said, oh, i dont think that could happen, jason. As a man who knows a lot about like and hes like well, i thought that was the scenario. Well, it turns out that could happen he was referring to a scenario which i found out later where if the Electoral College was tied the president would have gotten kicked to the house of representatives where they might have picked mitt romney, the senate would have picked the Vice President , they would have picked joe biden and thats how it would have happened. Once again theres one of the things i hate the most about me laughter . Is how much bleep i dont know. laughter everyday there is bleep that i dont know. laughter and ive got to tell you, television is if youre ever looking to display your ignorance laughter . What a medium laughter so Jason Sudeikis, i apologize. He just walked out and i was up until 3 00 in the morning like Electoral College oh, im stupid that being said, tonights show, republicans still reeling from their electoral defeat last week and reassessing their outreach efforts after suffering enormous erosion of support amongst asians, latinos and African Americans or, as republicans sometimes refer to the groups, the reason their kids didnt get into their firstchoice schools. audience reacts but there is one oh, yes, they do laughter but there is one bright spot on the g. O. P. s demographic map. Married women tended to favor mitt romney. Jon married women laughter now why do you think specifically married women would favor mitt romney . Please feel free to paint this demographic in the most positive light you can. Married women think about the future of their children. They have more responsibility and youre running a household. So married you tend to be more settled, youre thinking about the kids, thinking about how the countrys going to be when they grow up. Theyre not just some selfish bleep . laughter cheers and applause oh. Im sorry. They didnt say that. They paraphrased it. Among single women, a whopping 67 voted for the president. I cant explain, for example, single women other than the abortion issue. Their issue is about borg. Turns out they are oneissue voters. We had women who could actually afford Birth Control, suburban College Educated women turn out and say i want free Birth Control. Jon i mean, it was unbelievable. These werent gross slutty poor people women were talking tridelt dealts, alpha chi omegas, gab be gab be heys. Joining us now are senior womens issues correspondent kristen schaal. Kristen, thank you so much for joining us. cheers and applause so heres what were hearing now. Single women, what theyre saying is, vote democratic because they dont care about the future of america and only think about abortion. Your thoughts on this . Well, i was totally offended until a certain recent life event changed my priorities. laughter jon oh, right, im sorry. Im sorry. You got married this summer. Congratulations. I heard you got married. cheers and applause thats nice. I heard it was great. I heard it was i heard it was a great wedding. I wasnt invited. No. laughter . Jon um but you seem like the same person. laughs how dare you, jon . As soon as a groom, my groom, carried me across the threshold i felt something new exploding inside me. laughter and you know what that was . laughter . Jon no, i dont, im not gonna it was concern for americas future. But single women vote with their vaginas, jon and they only care about one issue the sucking and the bleep ing. laughter jon isnt that two issues . laughter not if youre doing it right. laughter . cheers and applause all right, all right. Sorry. Come on, jon, i mean, we all remember the single me. laughter no, im not saying i want to enslave men, i just want to hurt them a little, you know . Is that cocaine . Birth control. If you crush it up it hits you so fast. All us lesbians are doing it. Jon wow, i actually dont remember that. That was laughter . By the way, if you were a lesbian, why did you have Birth Control pills . Why not. Under obama theyre free. laughter anyways, im not single anymore and i finally get it. I will fight for the future of my children jon right, but you dont have children. No, but i have my eye on a few down the street. They are so cute and very u. N. Supervised. Jon one word of avice if you do have the kid. Gogurt. Yummy jon yeah, its really nice. laughter single women are a growing demographic but what can republicans do to win their votes, then . Well, jon, they have to frame their arguments through prism of the vagina. laughter jon somewhat narrow prism to look through. laughter no, some are huge laughter but, jon, all vaginas have a sacred, almost mystical function. Jon well, yes, they produce life. They no, they attract husbands after youre married, you hardly need one anymore. Jon well, no, married women do also use their vaginas yeah, i guess. Maybe to have sex with a fourstar general, but how many of those are there . audience reacts jon i dont know. I dont know how many four star generals there are. 37 counting admirals, but not enough to go around, okay . laughter . Jon so in your mind what can republicans do to vagazzle their message then . Here, ill show you, give me any issue. Jon what about immigration . Hey, america, lets take charge of our own protection. Insert a diaphragm between us and mexico to stop those little swimmers from implanting in our womb of opportunity, our country, our choice build the dang fence laughter . Jon wow, thats impressive. That is impressive. I didnt see that coming. cheers and applause and if that doesnt work, republicans can take care of single women and immigration with the nuclear option. Jon nuclear option. Whats that . A mooney style mass wedding. Ten million single ladies, ten million illegal mexican gardeners, 20 million brand new republicans laughter jon hitting two bird with one stadium. Exactly and if we get the ladies and the latinos we can keep ignoring the blacks, right . High five in the sky high five in the sky high five, jon e blowing up cheers and applause . Jon welcome back for centuries British Journalism was the Gold Standard of reportage. Authoritative men telling you in clipped accents about train robberies, german bombs and rain. laughter mostly rain. laughter but you have to remember the grand tradition suffered a bit of a blow last year when it was discovered british tabloids have been hacking the phones of not just hugh grant but dead british soldiers and child murder victims. For British Journalism it was real googly in the collywobbles. laughter but that was Rupert Murdochs doing who is, as the brits would say, an as bleep . laughter oh, theyre oh, theres a applause . Their word for that is the same as ours. laughter but thats not really about the british media. Thats just murdoch stuff. The british media remained untarnished by that type of tawdry phone hacking unpleasantness. The bbc in crisis. It started with jimmy savile. He was like the british version of our dick clark. The wild eyed, wild hair bud much beloved bbc star now deceased who Police Believe may be one of britains worst predatory sex offenders ever with possibly hundreds of victims over four decades. They say some abuse may have happened on bbc property. Jon wait that guy . laughter that creepy looking dude was britains dick clark . Let me tell you something first of all, dick clark didnt look like route tkpwer hauer playing one of the child catchers from Chitty Chitty bang bang. laughter i dont want to judge a book by its cover but if this fellow was a book im pretty sure the cover would be dont leave me alone with your kids the jimmy savile story. What did this now known pedophile host . Well, it was a hugely popular show called jim jim eel fix it where children would write in and he would grant their wishes. Their wishes. audience reacts he was like santa claus. But real and a pedophile. laughter so really nothing like santa claus. All right, this is a horrific story. But the bbc werent the only ones who failed to look so too closely into Jimmy Saviles activities. He received a knight hood and not just from the queen but also and this is true from the pope. audience reacts yeah. I know. The vatican unable to detect laughter . Boggles the mind. cheers and applause but the bbc is a 90yearold broadcasting institution. Theyre going to handle this. As long as they handle it properly i think they can weather the storm. Bbc was working on an investigative report on this but dropped it, sparking allegations against the bbc of a coverup. The bbc axed this damning report from its news Night Program instead airing a growing tribute to jimmy savile the day after christmas. audience reacts . Jon laughs the audience tonight is like a living emoticon. laughter let me recap this for a second. Huh . A top bbc employee systematically abused children for decades with no one in the entire company at any point going hey, whats all this then . laughter then when they finally investigated, the bbc news found out only a half century too late it bleep canned its own report on the sex offender and aired a tribute to him instead. audience reacts this is rock bottom, right . Please tell me this does not get worse. Things got even worse when the bbcs Flagship Program news night aired a story wrongly implicating a former politician of sexual abuse at a childrens home. Jon holy bleep . laughter although, on the bright side, at least someone got accused of pedophilia, right . laughter not the right buy but baby steps. Ive got to say all that this makes murdoch phone tapping look almost quaint. Theres not many times we get to look down on britain and feel superior, which is why it is so satisfying when we can. Unfortunately for us we are separated by an ocean from the cbs sordid, disgustings me. And the reason this is important for the United States right now lies an interesting story is the director general of bbc 50 days ago former director general, Mark Thompson will now next week take over as the head of the new york times. audience reacts . Jon what . So that explain the times new slogan all the news that fits under the carpet. laughter well be right back. Pppp cheers and applause . Jon welcome back my guest tonight a Pulitzer Prize winning best selling author. His new book is called Thomas Jefferson the art of power. Please welcome back to the program jon meacham. Sir, come on out here whos better than us . Sit. Well, i could start. Jon i know, many people. Jon meacham, thanks for joining us. Thank you. Jon Thomas Jefferson the art of power. Look at that. Look at that picture. That was a goodlooking dude. He was a goodlooking dude. Jon you wrote he provided over the country during a time of deep partisan divide and real antagonism in this country. Has there ever been a present who hasnt presided no, james monroe. Jon really . There was an era of good feelings. Federalism one of the achievements of jefferson is his republicanism really drove federalists mad, which is not also which is also initially an analogy right now. Jon well, lets define republicanism and federalism as they go. Republicanism was the voice of the many over the few. And federalists were sort of proto british, much more jon elitist . Authoritarian, elitist. It was based in new england and in south carolina. Which has always been trouble. Jon and more religious. It was a more religious based he was more of your enlightenment type fellow. It was his doing that moved the wall metaphor, the separation between church and state, into the vernacular in a letter to the Danbury Baptist association and that was a critical thing. He on his religious views he was a somewhat of a skep i can. He described christianity as the mere abracadabra of men calling themselves priests of jesus. laughter he didnt do well at liberty. Jon so when he went to go at speak at falwell university, how did that go over . It wasnt jon not a big hit. He was called an atheist a at a time. An atheist in religion and a fanatic in politics by Alexander Hamilton of whom jefferson responded after saying that they were daily pitted in the cabinet like two cocks constantly at each other. Jon sure. laughter that will happen in a cabinet. laughter pressing on jon please. laughter am i soiling your pulitzer. laughter im getting a little tarnish on your pulitzer. Please dont say soil. laughter as a favor. Jon you give as good as you get there. As a favor, baby. And then skwrofr son responded by saying he declined to have his reputation slandered by a man for whom history from the moment history could stoop to notice him with hamilton, who was an illegitimate child had not only received his received him into the country but had heaped his honors on his head. And all that hamilton had done to repay for this was to issue a tissue of machinations against the liberty of the country. Jon wow so it was fun. I know that we think the snaps that these guys delivered laughter on each other. It was good. Jon they were at such a level. Such a they were olympian in their snaps. laughter it was theres no yo mama like none of that. It was not when Thomas Jefferson went after a political opponent it was not hows that Hopey Changey thing working out for you . laughter jon the interesting thing to me about jefferson is the narrative of his life is a real focus on enlightenment. Of bringing reason. We find ourselves in conspiracy times once again. And fundamentalism. And fundamentalism. Is it hard not to think in your mind what would jefferson make of this . Would he consider this a mild case of this illness . Would he consider it full blown . He was an amateur everything. This is a guy who loved wine, women, song, architecture, art gardening, agriculture, and medicine was one of them and he read a lot. He would not have been a good guy if he were a doctor on webmd. Com. Jon i know what you mean. Im on it a lot. The medical stuff. Jon thats right. Looking stuff up. He was always analyzing, diagnosing himself. Jon he had that great story about somebody meets him and when they speak to him about medicine and when they talk about archaeology they think hes an and then they speak about religion and think he hes a priest and they go to the inn keeper after and they said who is that man . And the inn keeper said i thought you knew mr. Jefferson. There was remarkable intellectual curiosity inculcated and cultivated at william mary in williamsburg which he loved. It was a transformative experience for him. Jon he and i are just so similar in nature. laughter i know, i know. laughter . Jon im curious how much time he spent there high. Because i know for me can you stick around . Sure. Jon i want to talk a little bit more. Jefferson is truly such a seminal figure in the founding of our country. And his views do speak to what we are talking about now. Jon no question about it. Thomas jefferson the art of power. Its on the bookshelves now. Fascinating. Jon meacham. Well be right back with more. cheers and apppp jon thats our show. Here silt your moment of zen. Your colleagues privately say that your decision to stay on prohibits the party from having a younger leerership and hurts the party in the long term. Whats your response . Discrimination