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8. And sanjay gupta says medical marijuana is irresponsible for doctors not to provide the best care they can and that care often includes marijuana. Hello, im wolf blitzer reporting from washington. A senior Ukrainian Border official says 30,000 Russian Troops now occupy the countrys crimean peninsula. Thats nearly twice the previous estimate. Also happening right now, a u. S. Guided missile destroyer is steaming toward the black sea for naval maneuvers with romania and bulgaria. It was planned before the crisis erupted at the crimean border. 43 unarmed observers from europe were turned away for a second day in a row. Camouflage ed gunmen had orders not to allow anyone through the check point. The president back in sochi, russia, today for the Opening Ceremony for the paralympic games, despite the crisis at home. In washington, lingering questions over whether u. S. Intelligence agencies misread Russian Military movements of the ukraine quran territory. Some critics have singelled out the Defense Intelligence agency. The head of the agency, michael flynn, defended his analysts today on npr. For easily, seven to ten days leading up to the Russian Troops, as we see them now in the crime i cania, we were prov solid reporting on strategic warning, where we move from one level of sort of a condition of warning, which i would just describe for the audience as sort of moderate to one where we believe things are imminent. Bringing in our chief National Security correspondent, jim sciutto. So honest disagreements. There are 16 u. S. Intelligence agencies. We heard from mike rogers here 24 hours ago. Two agencies. He didnt say which ones, seem to have different conclusions in their estimates, in their analysis. But very often. , as you well know, intelligence is sometimes more an art than a science. No question. You look at his answer there, those words, trying to figure out what he was trying to say. It was moderate. And thats the way intelligence reports are written. Because they dont have black and white answers, often. Now and ive spoken to intelligence officials who said that they provided the administration with a number of possible scenarios for what might happen there. Of course, the difficulty then was, which of those scenarios is going to happen and when . What is putin going to do, in effect. I mer mean, the bottom line, it does appear they were caught off guard by what they did and when he did it. And i think they can say now in defense, we presented a number of options here and among those options were things that happened. Could they have given him guidance that said, you know what, this one is 75 more likely than this one. You know, its always a difficult game there. And you know, i think there is a little bit of competition between the Defense Intelligence agencies and other members of the Intelligence Community to say, well, none of us got it 100 right but we got it more right. I assume the dia saw troops moving near the Ukrainian Border. Whether they came to the conclusion they would move into crimea, thats a whole different matter. But the technical aspects you see tanks, planes, aircraft, you see whatever is going on. That usually is seen sort of reminds me of before the first gulf war in august 1990, the u. S. Intelligence community knew Saddam Hussein had moved 100,000 troops from the Iranian Border to the kuwaiti border but the estimate, they were not going into kuwait, because invading a fellow arab country, that was not the conclusion. There was a minority of analysts who said they were going in. For sure. And another challenge here. And intelligence officials have told me this. Our intel on the ground is limited there. We cant fly drones over. You have satellite pictures, but thats way up here. Thats six miles in the sky, right . You cant fly drones over it. You dont have human intelligence on the ground. Thats a handicap. So its not like theyre looking into, you know, another country, you know, pakistan, for instance, where we can fly drones over there with impunity. That makes it more difficult not only to count noses of the troops on its ground but also to get a sense of what the next step is. What about this phone call that the president had yesterday with putin . They spent an hour on the phone, once again. Doesnt look like there is any movement, although you never know whats going on behind the scenes. Didnt sound like the warmest phone call. And in the competing readouts, one from the white house and one from president putin, from the kremlin, both show they have competing interpretations of whats going on on the ground and what the solution is for the way forward. And you also had, as we were discussing yesterday, of sergey lavrov, going back now to putin to discuss the foreign minister to discuss kerrys plan to get the ukrainians and russians down to the same table. Were in a diplomatic stalemate and military stalemate at the same time. The talks both sides say they want to talk but havent figured out how to. On the military side, no troops moving back to the bases and meanwhile, these other events moving along. Violence against journalists today. Every day we have seen a violent altercation which shows the volatile mix of things you have on the ground. Plus two moves in the Russian Parliament, which are worrisome. One, the Russian Parliament endorsed this idea of a referendum on sunday for a crimean independence, and also the Russian Parliament talking about making it easier to give russian citizenship to ethnic russians in eastern ukraine, which creates a whole another problem. One of those incidents could trigger we only can fear, a major escalation. Lots of guns on the ground. Thanks very much. And now a heroes welcome in moscow, exactly what members of russias parliament gave prorussian lawmakers from crimea today. They told the delegation, they fully back their proposed vote on separating from ukraine, even if that support means getting hit with western sanctions. Lets go to moscow right now. Russian journalists and cnn analyst vladimir poezner joining us. Thanks very much for joining us. You have said russians arent at all fazed by the thought of sanctions that the country has been through tough times before. Wont necessarily back down from this threat from the u. S. And the europeans, even if its painful. So what is the west and ukraine, for that matter, likely to do if diplomacy doesnt work . You know, youve got me guessing, wolf. I have no idea what theyre going to do. Ive always said that sanctions dont work. They have not worked in the past, not with russia, i dont think theyll work in the future. I hope that there is a way to solve this diplomatically. But if you are asking, well, what if none of the diplomatic discussions work, whats going to happen . Frankly, i dont know. Im very uncomfortable with what might happen. When you say youre uncomfortable, what do you fear . Well, i fear the beginning of a new cold war. I feel i fear the a new iron curtain coming down. And ultimately, i even fear a civil war in ukraine. I dont think there will be a military conflict or a war, shall we say. A hot war. Between russia and the west. Thats something i discount. But the other things i think are reality, and i think that is very uncomfortable. What if the u. S. And the europeans and the Ukrainian Government in kiev insist on the territorial integrity, the sovereignty of all of ukraine, including crimea . What would be the bottom line . What could russia, president putin, accept, you said under those circumstances . In other words, is there a finness, some sort of offramp, if you will, for russia . Well, i think there is. And that is the issue of to what extent crimea can be autonomous while remaining in the ukraine. Remaining part of the ukraine. I think that the idea of taking crimea into the Russian Federation, making it an administrative unit in the Russian Federation, is would be a grave mistake. Now i dont know whether mr. Putin shares my view. I think that the backlash would be much, much worse than what happened after the war with georgia. Thing is no comparison. But i do think there is the possibility of getting giving crimea greater autonomy and some kind of guarantees as to what the ethnic russian population should not fear, which is any kind of law that would ban the teaching of russian schools. That kind of thing. I think it can be worked out, provided both sides really want it to work out. I sometimes get the feeling that there are some people involved here who do not want to get it worked out. And for whom the worse it is, the better it is. And i dont know exactly who they are, but i feel that in the socalled Ukrainian Government, there are certain forces there that would like to see a conflict. But what youre suggesting is that crimea would have some sort of autonomy, but it would still be part of sovereign ukraine, right . Yes, it would have to be. It would have to be, because that or, in that case, its no longer part of ukraine, then what is it . Is it an independent country . Called crimea . I dont think thats a reality at all. Does it become part of the Russian Federation . Well, i already told you what i think about that. I think its a would be a major mistake. So for this thing to be to be somehow solved, i think crimea has to remain even though the majority of people in crimea probably would like to become part of the Russian Federation, and this this referendum that theyre going to hold on the 16th will probably prove that. Nevertheless, i dont think it would be prudent to go that way. But i think there is a way of making crimea more autonomous, less dependent on the central key of government. Vladimir pozner, thank you very much for joining us. Well check back in the coming days. Were going to have much more on the crisis in ukraine coming up this hour. Plus, a conservative political conference sounding like a tent revival, at least in part, as rick perry refs up the republican base. What was the Current Governor of texas up to . Were going to talk about the future of the gop. Gloria borger is standing by to weigh in. And later, our own dr. Sanjay gupta is doubling down on medical marijuana. Youre going find out why he says americans shouldnt be denied access to the drug. music defiance is in our bones. Defiance never grows old. Citracal maximum. Calcium citrate plus d. Highly soluble, easily absorbed. Allthats it . Go out to dinner. I mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great. Hes using you. He probably has a Citi Thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants. Huh the Citi Thankyou preferred card. Now earn 2x the points on dining out, with no annual fee. Go to citi. Com thankyoucards honey, we need to talk. 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Authorities have actually filed charges against the mother who drove her van into the ocean with children inside. Listen to ben johnson, sheriff of lucia county in florida. Thats part of what we look at, the fact she was able to get out of the vehicle. She tried to stop somebody from going into the vehicle. Thats one of the reasons you have the premeditated first degree, attempted first degree murder. She definitely tried to kill her children, from everything we have seen. And in so doing, this is more to it you know, we want to look at. We want to get it into the system so we can get he have been involved the help thats needed. So there you heard it. First degree attempted murder charges. Ashleigh banfield is joining us from new york. She has been reporting extensively on this case. Huge interest. You dont every day see a woman with her kids inside drive into the ocean, if you will, and now the sheriff is suggesting she actually wanted to kill her children. Im not the least bet surprised about these charges, wolf. But ill tell you when ill be less surprised, and that is when her defense is mounted as an insanity defense. Because this one looks pretty classic. I am instantly reminded of andrea yates drowning five of her children in succession, faceup, facing her in the batht bathtub. Two trials. One she prevailed and one she didnt. But in this particular case, there are a couple things she is going to have to prove. At least her Defense Attorneys will. Number one, did she understand the nature and consequences of her actions. And did she know right from wrong. Those are two prongs and most of the time youve got to prove both of those beyond reasonable doubt to a jury of very suspecting people. It rarely works in this country. When you watch that videotape and you see a shadow, which is her, emerging from the car, bewildered and playing with her hair, i think that will be very powerful. There is is a lot we dont know about her. There is a lot she has talked about. She has been interviewed and assessed so there is a lot were going to learn if it proceeds to trial. You see the video right there. There you see the woman, emerging from the car. Her kids taken by individuals who just happen to be in the area. They saw this car driving into the waves, into the ocean, if you will. They chased, they opened up the rear door. The woman got out and fortunately, the men who were there, the rescuers, they got the kids, they brought them out. They described the woman as dazed when they saw her afterward. So that would fit into some sort of Mental Illness defense, right, ashleigh . A lot of that does. There is is some other evidence as well that those witnesses said on television and whether they said in a Police Report yet remains to be seen. One of those witnesses on the scene said the woman kept saying over and over, were okay, were okay, were okay. And all of a sudden just hit the gas and made a direct turn back into the ocean. So theres also some reporting that she rolled those windows up. But look, there are a lot of different mothers out there in the history of the United States who have killed their children and gone on to say why. Some of them say the devil made them do it. Some of them say i was protecting them from the devil and getting them to god faster. Those are two very Different Reasons legally speaking. One of them is that you didnt understand right from wrong. You thought you were doing the right thing, sending the children to god. The other one is the devil made me do it. I knew it was wrong, but the devil made me do it, i knew it was wrong. Thats a very critical issue in this particular case, if thats the if thats the defense she decides to mount, ive got to be honest, wolf, i will be astounded if that is not the defense. And if she doesnt, shell go away for the rest of her life for this. Stand by, ashleigh. Torr torrey dunnen reporting on this case. Walk us through these charges. Sure, wolf. They held a News Conference minutes ago, where they announced the charges that she is going to be facing. This woman who drove the minivan into the ocean is facing three counts of first degree attempted murder. Also, three counts of child abuse. Now, some of the reporters in the room asked Law Enforcement up there how they came to this decision. And basically bottom line, they said they took a look at all of the evidence. The fact that there is so much video that police say showed the woman actually taking a turn into the ocean. They also say they talked with many witnesses, and some of the rescuers. Some of the rescuers saying she prohibited them, or tried to, from getting into the minivan while she got herself out. At the same time, they say they have intervie

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