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i'm john berman. >> i'm michaela pereira. it is 8:00 a.m. in the west. at this hour, millions are bracing for yet another blast, a bitter blast of cold weather. not as bad as the polar vortex episode we saw last month. still, cold enough to get our attention and your attention. that arctic air is hitting the minnesotas and dakotas today and it rolls east. temperatures are expected to be below zero in parts of the north and below freezing in the south. it has been a bad winter in the south. forecasters are not expecting any big snow or ice storms. the growing controversy swirling in arizona. they are urging the governor not to sign a bill that critics would say would allow businesses to discriminate against gays. they say it is all about freedom of religion, including one state senator who has some bold statements. you will hear from him in a group behind the build in a little bit. some outrage from the state's only openly gay legislate tore. if the arizona bill becomes law, the top cop there might not have to enforce it. attorney general eric holder says, the state attorney general doesn't have to defend laws they feel discriminate against their citizens. >> i believe that we must be suspicious of legal classifications based solely on sexual orientation and we must endeavor in all of our efforts to uphold and advance the values that once let our forbearers to declare that all are created equal and entitled to equal opportunity. critics say holder shouldn't be telling attorneys general how to defend their constitutions. >> australia wants almost $2 million for helping out with a rescue in the antarctic. you remember that russian ship that was stuck, there were 52 people on board. they airlifted to an australian icebreaker and brought safety. the australians say, pay up. >> if you are going to take a risk, you should have to pay for it. >> you might have to pay for a little bit of something. a tremendous recognition of bravery. ohio's governor gave annual courage awards to amazing recipients, well deserved. these three tremendous, courageous heroes, amanda berry, gina dejesus and michelle knight. their kidnapper, hanged himself in prison. he had been sentenced to life plus 1,000 years. well, voices are certainly growing louder against an arizona bill that would allow businesses to deny service to gay customers for religious reasons. governor, jan brewer, has just a few more days to sign it. she says she is going to do it after she returns from washington from the governor's convention there. she is going to veto it or let it become law. >> if she doesn't do anything, it becomes law by saturday. the state's two u.s. senators, john mccain and jeff fleck, they are both republicans, urging the republican governor to veto it. a lot of outrage. now, this. new concern that it could result in a nationwide boycott against arizona. there are serious business concerns now for the state that will host the super bowl next year. our dana bash asked the governor what she plans to do. >> as a person and as a woman and as somebody who sort of understands the plight of all kinds of people, where does your gut lie right now? >> well, you know, i am a woman. i don't rely a whole lot on my gut. i have to look at what it says and what the law says and take that information and do the right thing but i can assure you, as always, i will do the right thing. >> joining us now to talk about this is arizona state representative, damian klinko, the only openly gay lawmaker and damien bear. mr. bear, let me start with you. this bill is now opposed by the state's two republican u.s. senators and three state senators that now voted for it now opposed it and the nfl is giving veiled threats and the arizona chamber of commerce is saying, we can not support measures that could expose our businesses to litigation nor do we want to support anything that says our state is anything but an open and attractive place for visitors. >> has this measure which you helped draft, has it backfired? >> absolutely not. i actually agree with mr. holder. this shouldn't be about politics. it should be about basic protections. that's what the senate bill 1062 is all about. the religious freedom restoration act has been on the books on the federal level since 1993 and in arizona since 1999. all it does is bring arizona in line with what a majority of courts have already said the religious freedom restoration act does. the key is that if any of these terrible things that people are saying will happen under 1062, if any of those things could happen, they would already be happening. the reality is that the religious freedom restoration act has protections in place to prohibit all of those types of bad scenarios from happening. >> how does it have the protections in place. it seems to open the door for the possibility that a business could deny services to someone who is gay or a religion to someone who they don't agree with. >> tell me specifically what language you are referring to. >> it says, free exercise of religion is a fundamental right that applies in this state even if laws, rules or other government actions are facially neutral. it says, no matter what the other laws are, freedom of religion does reign. it also says state action shall not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion. that seems to me what that bill is written to do, is to give people in their mind the right to ban gays, to ban others if you disagree with their beliefs. >> all of that language that you read is nothing new to the way religious freedom acts have been classically understood and interpreted. these have been around for a long time. all arizona is doing in all of these cases where any of these things have gone before courts. most courts have said, religious freedom restoration should be understood this way. thankfully, there are protections to ensure there is no abuse. so, as i said, if any of these terrible things could happen, they would already be happening. thankfully, there are things like the three-part test, which we codify within the 1062. along with compelling government interest and least restrictive means that are there to ensure none of these things can happen. >> i want your reaction to that. are we misinterpreting the law. you had a very advivisceral rean as the only openly gay legislate tore there. do you feel the bill has valid points and is going to allow protections for people? >> the bill significantly expands the way that religious organizations or individuals can use their sincerely held religious beliefs to discriminate against the lgbt community and anybody who is in any way in opposition to their beliefs. the bill is a massive expansion from the 199 law. it sanctions discrimination and it is unacceptable and unamerican and certainly, unarizonan. >> mr. bear, the only state senator publicly supporting the bill, senator al melvin, spoke to anderson cooper last night. he brought up a point that the bill would allow businesses to discriminate against anyone, if religion was cited as a reason. i want you to listen to this sound and we'll get your reaction on the back end. >> if i'm an catholic loan officer in a bank and i don't like to loan money to a divorced woman or an unwed mother, eve thoeven though she might be able to pay me back, it is against my religious belief, under your law, i could refuse to do business with an unwed mother or a divorced woman, correct? >> i don't know where you are getting your hypothetical from, sir. divorced women and what was the other one you cited? >> unwed mother. jesus spoke against that. >> who would be against an unwed mother? >> i wouldn't be. i wouldn't be against a divorced woman. i don't understand. >> as you know -- >> you take discrimination to the inth degree. >> jesus spoke against divorce. >> so i want your reaction on this. are you claiming that everybody that is against this law being passed is completely missing the point on this bill? >> fundamentally, yes. there has been so much lies. fundamentally, there have been so many lies and i'm sorry. what's that? >> go ahead, mr. bear. >> fundamentally, yes, there have been so many lies and misinformation spread out about the bill. i can understand if people are worried about it. some of the reporting on it has completely distorted what senate bill 1062 is all about. all of the hypotheticals that were thrown out that the people are going to be denied service, those types of things. those can't happen under the law. most courts, as i said, back to the '93 and the '99, all 26 states that have religious freedom restoration acts, those things have been on the books for a long time. most courts interpret them to do what 1062 does. >> mr. bear, yes or no? do you think a business should be able to have the right to discriminate against someone because they are gay? >> no. that's not what this issue is about. the issue of the photography example, that case is a case that we keep on citing. it is a prime case of where one court misinterpreted and that result was somebody being denied to live and work according to their faith. it wasn't because they were denied service, because the photographer said, i don't want to take photos of the same-sex wedding. it was because they shouldn't be forced to celebrate something they hold a belief about which is the definition, and meaning around purpose of marriage. in that case, let's use a hypothetical, if they were actually two straight men wanting to have a same-sex wedding, she still would have said no. it wasn't the fact that they were gay but it was a same-sex wedding. that is where her sincerely held religious beliefs. that's where she would be able to say, i have a religious problem with that. most people would agree she shouldn't be forced to do that. 85% of the people believe she shouldn't be forced to do that. >> thank you for joining us. this is obviously, i'm sorry, we have run out of time. look, we understand the governor has this bill in front of her, mounting pressure is pushing hadder to veto it. we are going to hear more about this in the upcoming hours and days. we are not going to settle it here to be sure she has until saturday. say it ain't so. gas, milk, mickey mouse, so many of the things we need to survive. the price is jumping today. you will not like how long this might last. 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>> i know it feels like that. looking forward, that's what going to happen. milk is the other issue. this weather has been really difficult on dairy producers. 30 cent increase in the average milk prices. experts say it could rise another 40 cents to 60 cents in the next few months. you can maybe cut back for milk but not cut back on gas for the commute. a lot of people are watching these two really important kitchen table economic stories. >> they are both issues that affect families. they drive. this he get to feed their kids. you go to disneyland. >> people keep coming to disney. k disney can raise the prices and they keep selling the ticket. here is another disney price increase. up another $4. these are on the day passes. what the disney folks tell us, they always tell us when they have a price increase. the multi-day passes an packages are how most people visit disney and the properties. >> i think it depends on the package. the base price of the day ticket is coming up. the disney package that is best for you to try to keep the costs down. >> a little inflation isn't necessarily a bad thing. doesn't it mean the economy is improving a little bit? >> that's a really sunny-side up way to look at it, john. if you are paying more, yes. >> in the case of disney, it means people are coming, they are making more money. they could raise the prices and you are going to find a way to pay for it? >> it is a sign of success. >> it is not my fault the milk prices are going up. >> lots of people say they support the troops. the actor says he goes way above and beyond to show his commitment to our nation's veterans. here is how he impacts your life. i thought i would try out my sea legs. >> you ain't god no legs. >> long before gary sechlt dice played vietnam veteran, lieutenant dan in forrest gump, i was a passionate supporter of the military. >> i have a long history of working with veterans, starting with the relationships in my own personal family. my two uncles were in world war ii and my grandfather in world war i. wounded veterans began to identify with him. he formed the lieutenant dan band and has entertained troops around the world with the uso. the actor says his call to action became very clear after 9/11. >> when our men and women started deploying to iraq and afghanistan, they started getting hurt and killed and having vietnam veterans and my family, it was very troubling to think that our men and women would come home to a nation that didn't appreciate them. >> see out there. >> he started his own charity dedicated to veterans. the gary senece foundation helps build customized homes for the severe severely wounded and helps vets find careers. >> i have met hundreds of wounded veterans that continue to not let their circumstance get them down. countless lieutenant dans out there that inspire me every day. >> we salute gary and our u.s. veterans. >> we sure do. ahead at this hour, the big dog jumping into one of the biggest senate races in the country. bill clinton on the stump. is this fight really over the past, the present or hillary's future i can download anything i want. 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>> well, first of all, this race is very close. democrats are very excited about the prospect of unseating the republican leader. he has been in the senate almost 30 years. it will be very hard to do. as for why bill clinton chose this race. he goes way back with the candidate's family. almost 30 years, in fact. allison grimes father, jerry lundergrand was twice the chairman of the kentucky democratic party and also chaired hillary clinton's campaign in the state and has a catering company called lundy's and catered some of the inaugural events in 1993. i believe we have a picture of allison grimes giving some flowers to bill and hillary clinton from 1993. more recently, he catered chelsea clinton's wedding. there is a lot of loyalty here. >> paul steinhauser, on the subject of going way back, lundergrand grimes and mitch mcconnell. he was a part of the impeachment trial and bill clinton may remember some choice words that the senator had for him. >> you are going way back, 1998 after the house voted to impeach the president. senator mcconnell did speech out in favor of trying and convicting the president in that senate trial. he, along with 45 other republicans, did vote to convict. ten other republicans went with the democrats. the president was acquitted. that is history. that was then. this is now. let's be on est. bill clinton lives for campaigning. he is extremely good at it. he is a rock star for the democrats on the campaign trail. specially in these purple and red states like kentucky. the one difference here, this time, he has done a lot of this campaigning the last couple cycles. this time, we are just two years away from 2016. everybody is wondering with hillary clinton thinking of running, is there an ulterior motive for president clinton. he is helping these democrats to help his wife in 2016. as erin just said, the lundergrand grimes family goes way back with the clinton family. >> erin, back to you. you have got bill there. he carried kentucky in both his presidential elections. he is a rock star in the south. obviously a powerhouse when he is campaigning for somebody. what else is part of his campaign for trying to feed mcconnell? he is a powerful senator. >> he sure is. two big things. allison lundergrimes is campaigning about how her proposals are specifically tailored to michigan. how powerful mick mcconnell is. she has a funny comment she likes to say a lot on the campaign trail, even if mitch mcconnell had a kidney stone, he would refuse to pass it. i want to show you some of the literatures they are handing out today. kentucky families deserve better than gridlock politics. i am sure we are going to hear a lot about that over the course of this year. >> one thing you will not hear about is president obama. the democratic senate, candidate in kentucky, seems to be running away from him. this speaks to a bit of a weakness. erin mcpike in kentucky for us. paul steinhauser, always great to have you. thanks so much, guys did you miss it, the tv apology from ted nugent, sincere, bizarre? should candidates be running to nugent or running for cover? n a. but what's even more surprising is that brushing alone isn't enough to keep it clean. fortunately, you've got listerine®. unlike brushing which misses 75% of your mouth, listerine® cleans virtually your entire mouth. so what are you waiting for? 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>> i don't think he is doing well at all. he is an embarrassment to himself right now. when people apologize, what they need to do is take responsibility for his actions. he didn't do that. what he did is he said, look, i'm not going to call names anymore but i'm going to call names. he didn't address the problem. he has become a symbol for everything that's wrong with the republican party. >> there is no idealogical monopoly on ideological statements. you give advice on damage control. what would you say to candidates do? ted nugent is very popular in some circles. he is a rock star. he plays the guitar. he is very out spoken on gun rights, very popular. >> absolutely. i think celebrities are important to the base. people want to see popular people associated with them. what the candidates need to do if they are going to have these people doing their dirty work is distance themselves and say, i don't approve of this rhetoric. what i want to talk about is this issue and this. they can't just say it is okay. they can't say i'm aligned with this person, because here is the problem. the problem is, they are associated now with that person and they become a symbol for why they should be dismissed. if you say, i don't want to like ted cruz. you are going to say, i don't like ted cruz, because he is associated with this awful statement. if you don't distance yourself in some way, that's going to be who you are. it is going to give a reason for people to reject you and not to listen to what you have to say. >> abbott was up by a pretty high margin in the poll before bringing on nugent to campaign with him on the campaign trail. it makes you wonder what kind of risk assessment was done, if any was done. if somebody had come to you and said, i'm thinking of doing this, what would you have suggested. >> i would say if you're going to use this person, don't use them in an official capacity. i would say, i understand the importance of these relationships on these issues. i would say, look, you can't have this kind of thing associated with you. you need to understand right now the sim bombs associated with your party and what you are trying to accomplish. i understand it is important to popularity. it is not going to do you any favors in the long run. what we are seeing in the debate in this country is that we don't want negativity. we don't want mud-slinging, positive plans for the future, optimism. we don't want mud-slinging unless it is just appealing to yourself. we are trying to get more broad, popular appeal. we have to have a more broad, popular message. sub-human mongrel is a racial comment, probably racist comment. now, ted nugent is calling him a liar. let's listen to him claim he is not a racist. >> i have nothing against any race. my whole life is dedicated to my black heroes. my black musical heroes and you know that. i have not a racist bone in my body. >> so he is done with racist terms like sub-human mongrel. he is on to liar. is that better? 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>> the question is, you say it is good for people. explain. >> when people sign up for our service, they are not telling me, i'm trying to look for the next person to move on to. they are trying to stay married. they love and cherish their family life, their children, their extended family and home. what they are tired of is what does or doesn't take place in their bedroom. infidelity becomes a life preserver. >> okay. so hold up. my concern is about ashleymadison.com. if people want to stray, they don't really need assistance doing it. aren't people quite able to -- >> yeah, by your own argument, you're saying we're hard-wired for it, so why do we need you? >> they need a ton of assistance, because the perfect affair is not just meeting someone, it's meeting someone and not getting discovered. so when you have an affair in the workplace, which is our biggest competitor, it's bound to be uncovered. when you have it on facebook or your sister's husband, it's bound to be discovered and you risk losing not just your relationship, but also a sibling one. ultimately, people pursuing with like-minded people on ashley madison, that's half the ticket home. and the technology we bring is a totally different paradigm than in the bricks in mortar world. >> peer research surveyed americans. 88% say having an affair is morally wrong. only 3% say it's acceptable. that number breaks down the same for men and women. so if so many people feel it is morally wrong, why would you encourage them to go against their beliefs? i mean, we are speaking to the ceo of a company, you know -- business-making, profit-making venture. >> but your question is a fair one. but that is society-shaping, right? so part of what we're doing here is trying to recalibrate society's understanding of the topic. if you look at the society we live in right now, it is shaped by a ton of unfaktful people, people in the lives of politics, sports, entertainment, entrepreneurship, have all been unfaithful, but shaped the society we live in to incredible effect. so it can be that unfaithful people are sociopathic. that can't be right. that can't be the analysis we come to. so i think that reaction you get, that 88%, that is what we're taught. that is what we learn, because we believe that monogamy is right. that somehow there is a benefit to it. but if it leads to marriage breakdown, is it truly beneficial? that's the question we should ask ourselves. >> or promising not to hurt somebody you've made a vow to. there is that. >> noel biderman, thank you for coming in. really appreciate it. i will say, i'm a big fan of my marriage, at least. and i will say, you know -- >> full disclosure. you're married, i'm not. i'm happily in a relationship, as you're happily in your relationship. >> no one forces you to get married. at this point, there are a million things to do. if you're going to go through the trouble, and these weddings aren't cheap, by the way. maybe stay with it for the long haul. >> another topic we have been watching, growing concern at this hour about a polio-like illness, similar to it, causing partial paralysis in children in california. doctors don't know exactly what it is. and even worse, they don't know what's causing it. >> five cases have been confirmed so far, and state health officials say there could be more than 20 other cases. got to take a look at this darling little girl. 4-year-old sophia jarvis, one of the children stricken with the mystery illness. her left arm now paralyzed. doctors say the damage appears permanent. so let's bring in our dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, all the cases have been reported in california. all of them are in the past 18 months. and doctors say all the children received polio vac makeses. so what do you make of that? >> you know, the polio virus is a -- is part of a family of viruses, and the likely thing that's happening here is that another member of that family of viruses is causing these problems. two of the five children were actually found to have a particular virus known a as enterovirus 68. it can cause similar symptoms. let me point out, and, again, the public health officials have been very clear about this. they don't think this is going to be something that's going to become epidemic or contagious, even spread within families. that's the good news here. they also don't -- right now they're looking for other potential clusters of cases around the country, and that's part of the reason they're talking about this now. in your own community, have you seen something like this, an unusual sort of symptom where a child suddenly becomes weak in one of their limbs? trying to find out if it's in more places than just california. but right now, as you point out, it sort of seems localized and doesn't seem to be spreading. >> so obviously, parents watching this, they're very concerned about their own children. especially because it presented like very similar to cold symptoms. what would you advise parents in california or beyond who are concerned about this? potentially with their kids? >> you know, it's one of these things that when i heard sophia's mom, just met sophia there talking about this, i said she was reaching into her toy box, a treasure box, and she noticed she wasn't grasping with her left hand as well. and it just sort of persisted. i guess what i would say, and i think the doctors have echoed this, as well, as a parent, you don't want to -- you probably wouldn't blow that off anyway. but you want to pay particular attention to this now. thinking is there -- is this some sort of persistent weakness in an arm or leg or something like that. and then report it. here's why. three of the five kids could not get a diagnosis, because they came into the hospital too late. if you can get a diagnosis, figure out what the virus is, you have a better chance of trying to offer some sort of relief for that. it's -- there is no antidote, if you will. but you can -- the treatments may exist that could be much more beneficial early. >> sanjay, we can't thank you enough. parents are concerned. that little one calls her arm lefty, she says it's her favorite arm. such a great attitude. we wish her parents well and all of the other parents, as well. thanks sanjay. a hard turn. today's dose of cable outrage. special shotten freud edition. what if i told you i stubbed my toe, lost $1,000 at the dog track and an incurrable stomach rash. if i told you all those things were true, i would still be having a better day than the new york knicks. this is what they managed in the last 24 hours. number one, jr smith tries to pull off the hand band of vince carter from the dallas mavericks. that would seem playful if smith hadn't been fined $50,000 for untying two opponents' shoelaces. this guys seems obsessed with everyone else's clothes. hang on to your tank tops, everyone. that's not the worst thing that happens to the knicks, know. in the close seconds of the game, all tied up until here it goes -- >> oh, no! >> dirk nowitzski with the ball, and he sinks an impossible shot with no time left. the mavericks win. it's insane. it's heartbreaking. but that's not the worst thing that happened to the knicks. >> you're kidding. >> no, because number 3 after the game, knicks guard raymond felton was arrested on three felony counts of criminal possession of a weapon. ladies and gentlemen, your new york knicks, not just losing but cheating. not just cheating, but lawbreaking, allegedly. hey, at least they don't stink. oh, wait! they do! they're 15 games under .500. so it's enough to make you feel okay about your stomach rash, so everybody repeat after me. no matter how bad it seems for you, you're having a better day than the new york knicks. >> as i say goodbye and thank you for joining this hour, i'm going to lean away, because i feel like some wrath is coming your way, my brother. >> "legal view" with ashleigh banfield starts after the break. >>@johnberman. here in philadelphia you can access a philly cheesesteak anytime, day or night. just like you can access geico anytime, day or night. there is only one way to celebrate this unique similarity. witness the cheesesteak shuffle. ♪ cheesesteak, cheesesteak ♪ ♪ it's the cheesesteak shuffle! huh! ♪ ♪ every day, all day, cheesesteak, cheesesteak! ♪ ♪ every night, all night cheesesteak, cheesesteak! ♪ ♪ 9 a.m. cheesesteak! ♪ 2 p.m. cheesesteak! ♪ 4 a.m. cheesesteak! ♪ any time (ruh!) >>geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. which will cause me to miss the end of the game. the x1 entertainment operating system lets your watch live tv anywhere. can i watch it in butterfly valley? 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