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happened. president barack obama says a federal investigation has been launched and attorney general eric holder will visit ferguson on wednesday. he also called for everyone to take a deep breath. >> a community in ferguson that is rightly hurting and looking for answers, let me call once again for us to seek some understanding rather than simply holler at each other. let's seek to heal. rather than to wound each other. as americans, we have to use this moment to seek out our shared humanity that has been laid bare by this moment. >> it's very important to point out the missouri national guard now here to try to keep a lid on the violence. and another journalist, we should tell you, was handcuffed and arrested late this afternoon. we witness it all. and there were some very tense moments with police out here on the streets today. my cnn crew and i got caught up in some of it. take a look. we were out here doing a live shot for" the situation room" when police came around the corner and told us we had to move even though this was the place they told us this was where the media should be stationed. they started moving us and protesters back. it seems the rules change and no one knows at times exactly what they are. we'll talk about that in the next two hours on cnn. we have a lot to report over the next two hours and jake tapper is also here in ferguson tonight. a much different atmosphere than just 24 hours ago, jake. i want to you compare what's going on there where you are to the kinds of scenes that we saw last night, jake. >> reporter: well, it's a peaceful demonstration. a peace much march. we're walking in the march right here. we're passing the mark that was burned to the ground two saturday nights ago. we just -- our cameraman just trimmed over this shotgun shell. a remnant of protests past. so far the police have been very clear, they've recruited members of the clear -- >> what? >> it is okay -- it's okay for everyone to march and to walk. but they can't stop. and it has already been conveyed, as long as you keep walking, it's okay. if you stop you get one warning and then you get arrested. so far tonight it's been very peaceful. we know that the national guard are here as well as st. louis county police. ferguson police. the highway patrol. so far so good. everyone seems to be keeping the peace. don? >> will you compare it to the violence we saw last night, it is quite a difference. i was out on the streets last night and there was a lot of violence going on. we saw police out in tactical gear. the city was basically shut down, molotov cocktails being thrown and tear gas as well to try to get some of those protesters back. compared to last night, if you will. >> reporter: well, it's day and night. quite frankly, i was here thursday night when it was a peaceful night. that was the first night that captain ron johnson of the missouri state highway patrol was in charge. and that was the night that was also free of violence but it was still rather chaotic. tonight, very organized. people marching in one long line. so long that they're channeling different things in different sections of the line, of tmarch. everybody following the instructions very clearly, very deliberately by the state highway patrol. by the national guard. as you know, as of tonight, overseeing operations by the xhanl and control center down the way a little bit at the target. so you can't really even compare the two when you think about the tear gas and especially in previous nights. what was widely perceived to be militaristic overreaction by the police, initially in the first few days with rubber bullets and tear gas. this is day and night. i have to say, it is honestly, a two-way street. it is not just the police holding back. it is a very organized protest right now. which is different from days past when it has been more people not necessarily knowing, people having a lot of energy, anger, passion, and not having one way to channel it. this is very organized with everybody joining in this one very long line of protests, don. >> all right. jake tapper out with the protesters and keeping an eye on them. we'll get back to you throughout the next two hours. i'm joined here by the national president and founder of the black lawyers for justice. and also, darrell parks, the attorney for michael brown's family. thank you for joining us. malik, let's start with you. earlier you promised, i can quell 90% of it. when we were here on cnn, of the violence, you wanted people to get off the streets after dark. do you feel you were successful? >> well, i don't think there is a need for a curfew right now. i think the state has lifted the curfew and i think that we can maintain order here with the forces that we have. it is an important night. i am still nervous at this hour because i don't want to see our women and children out here tear gassed. >> there were some arrests today, darrell parks. even though they were trying to stop the violence. the national guard is coming in. what does the family think about that? >> the family again continues to call for very calm in this situation. we believe that we're making progress to achieve justice in the situation that we're facing. so again we've always asked everyone to remain calm and to let's be law-abiding and let the justice system do what it's done. we've always been encouraged by the job of the department of justice was doing. as you know, they did their autopsy today. so things are moving along. the agents on the ground and they're working and investigating this case. we think we're going to finally get to justice at some point soon. >> i want to tell you about the president, barack obama. he spoke earlier today and he talked about what he understands the anger of michael brown's death. but a small minority of people out there are bad actors and they're undermining the cause here. what do you make of his response, the president? >> i think in this instance, it was a fair response. he stood up for the constitutional rights of the demonstrators. he stood up for the first amendment and the right for to us get our message out. of course, no one wants the demonstrators, the legitimate ones to have the message drowned out by outside people. so in this instance i think he was fair. we're trying get to our message out and make sure the night doesn't end in tear gas and negativity. >> bringing in the national guard, was that a good idea? >> i don't think so. hearing that the national guard and the tanks and the troops are coming in creates more tension and anxiety amongst those who are here to fight for justice for michael brown. i'm glad they're not here and we're working to make sure we don't get into a situation where they have to appear. >> same question for you. >> i think them bringing greater security to the situation, they are here. not present though down here to provide at least security to the command center area. makes it okay. i think what we saw yesterday, the authorities that were here are overwhelmed. so you have to have some calm is that some way to bring some normalcy to the situation. >> the family, you know, there was today the release of a radio interview from someone who said that they were friends with the officer, and that the officer gave her an account of exactly what went on. what did the family make of that interview? >> at best it is third hand. i think that the witnesses we've heard from thus far are eyewitnesses and they've come forward and put their names there. for whatever reason he wants to tell the truth, he should step forward. however, i think the great number of eyewitnesses who have that that he was surrendering. he was raising his hands. the guy stood there and shot him. in the manner that he did. and adding to that, put forth by our forensic pathology of the gunshot wound at this part of his head, in the crown of his head forward speaks for itself. >> the mom wanted to know three things. she wants to know how many shots were fired, in her son suffered, and if there is enough evidence to have this officer arrested. do you feel there is a rush, there may be a rush too quickly to have the officer arrested before the all the facts ask details are in? >> let me be very clear. in america we know that african-americans are risked every day on, that they are arrested every day on a scintilla of evidence. that's the bs argument. when the reality in our country is we see people go to jail for little to nothing every day. booked into jail. you sit there until you're bonded out. that's the reality in america. >> the tim of the iceberg of a national problem. you have eric garner in new york. you have abuse killings across the country and this has exploded. so i think that the quicker and faster investigation and arrest of darren wilson will bring some justice here and bring some peace here and at least some resolution until there is a trial. i definitely think that the arrest should be expedited. >> you're still waiting to see how the night goes on, correct? >> yes. as soon as i leave here, i'm getting back with those demonstrators to make sure that they don't take over those who have legitimate cause. >> make sure you stick around. we'll talk to you a little bit later. up next, michael brown's family requested an independent autopsy. we'll see what it revealed. and also ahead, we're learning about darren wilson, the police officer who shot and killed 18-year-old michael brown. that's next. so factors like diet can negatively impact good bacteria? even if you're healthy and active. phillips digestive health support is a duo-probiotic that helps supplement good bacteria found in two parts of your digestive tract. i'm doubly impressed! phillips' digestive health. a daily probiotic. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are24/7branches? it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. say "hi" rudy. 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[ barks ] we're back now live in ferguson, missouri. 9:14 central time. you see the police officers out on the street but protesters are out and they are marching, so far as we know, it has been very peaceful. there is no curfew tonight. the governor of missouri, jay nixon saying, there will be no curfew tonight. but national guard members are on the scene. i want to go back to my colleague jake tapper who is standing by with a protester here in ferguson. what do you have? >> reporter: i'm not standing by. we're marching here. i'm here with adrian anderson. he is a protester, a form he police officer from st. louis, the city, and also, lives in st. louis. adrian, first of all, why is tonight so thankfully quiet and peaceful? what is different about tonight than previous nights? >> well, i think what's different about tonight is after meeting with the community leaders and organizers, and talking with police officers, we have tried to set up a strategic peace plan so that the people could freely march and their voices be heard. >> reporter: and i expressed surprise earlier today, earlier this evening when you told me you were a form he police officer because you are wearing a shirt that says, police, murdering our youth. do you think police regularly murder african-american men and boys? >> i think police officers overstep their boundaries of law. i think when you raise your handle and say that you're to protect, uphold the constitution, which is the right of the people, i think your first job should be to become that community police officer that protects the rights of the people. >> and you don't like the way that they do policing in ferguson and in other parts of the area. you think it should be more community based. >> i think it should be. i am a former county resident. this form of policing that we're doing is nothing new. this has been going on since the '80s when i began driving so this is nothing new. my ten years as a police officer in south st. louis with five gangs in my neighborhood, i've never pulled my gun on a man and i've never shot a man. and i approached guys who were on. but the difference is if you get out of your car and you talk to these people and you build relationship with people, then who they are is possibly likely to change. i know in my area, i had criminals that are now great fathers. >> reporter: that's the kind of conversation going on on the streets right now. there's no tear gas, no rubber bullets, no shotgun shells. just a lot of conversation and channing, don, back to you. >> all right. we'll get back to you throughout the evening. thank you very much. today michael brown's family released the results of an independent examination of his body. here's susan candiotti with more on what they found. >> reporter: this much we know from an expert hired by michael brown's family. their autopsy shows the unarmed teenager shot at least six times. four wounds on the right side of his body. two wounds in his head. dr. michael baden says it proves one thing about what that in the police officer's car. >> there weren't signs of a struggle. >> reporter: the fatal shot came later but examiners call a kill shot to the top of brown's head. and a second critical wound that exited his right eye. >> that's very important. because it shows a back to front for both of those. and it supports what the witnesses said by him trying to surrender to the officer. >> reporter: that matches accounts from brown's friend dorian johnson, and witness tiffany mitchell who both said they saw the teen raise his arms. i asked forensic expert lawrence to weigh in. could these be defensive wounds? >> the wound on the palm of the hand could very well be a defense wound in which case his hands would be up. noonld because the arms are flexible and the hands can't turn, it is quite possible that he did not have his hands up. >> reporter: there's no mention of that from a woman speaking in defense of officer wilson. identifying herself as josie, she calls the radio station and they said her account matches wilson's. shem the teenager shoves wilson into his car, punches him in the face. both men grab for the officer's gun. it goes off and brown and his friend start running. josie said he ignored the call to freeze. >> he just started coming at him full speed. he started shooting and he just kept coming. >> they said preliminary evidence from the autopsy only shows the teenager was shot in a front direction. >> does that mean that he was standing there giving up? we can't conclusively prove that off of what we saw. that's where it is very important for the attorneys in this case to really filter out the credible witnesses and for us to examine those witnesses' statements, along with the officers' statements, and then really be able to peace back together wham. >> reporter: the justice department is conducting its own autopsy and st. louis county will only confirm the teenager was shot in the head and chest. >> what if these three autopsies differ? >> if there turns out to be a difference in the three autopsy reports, it will boil down to credibility. the jury will have to attach some significance to each of the reports and listen to the pathologists and draw their own conclusions. >> reporter: that's if a grand jury recommends charges. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. >> all right, susan. thank you very much. we have some breaking news we want to get to here. you see the commotion on the streets here. and again, hang on. let me move out of the way. police are arresting a man who appears to be taken away by police. you see the protesters screaming, hands up, don't shoot. we saw officers rushing across the street. we're not exactly sure what happened. they are passing our location now. and he is with police officers and protesters trailing behind. as we've been saying, any small thing can set the community off here. it is a tinder box. as soon as one thing happens, kit lead to another. you see and hear the commotion going on. someone in the crowd, it appears at least one man has been arrested and we'll keep an eye on all of this for you on cnn as the night progresses here. let's talk about the autopsy though as this continues. we'll keep an eye on it. let's talk a little more about the autopsy now that susan candiotti reported on. i am join by dr. cyril wecht, a forensic pathologist and back with me, the attorney for michael brown's family. we have many eyewitness accounts telling very different stories. what story does this autopsy tell you? >> the shots on the right arm do not tell me that he was shot from the front or from the rear. the arms can be held in any variety of positions. you just think about it. soupination, palms up, pronation, palms down. take your arm down to tie your shoelace, take your arm behind to you reach for your wallet. you cannot say that the shots were fire from the front based upon the wounds in the arm. the two wounds in the head are very significant. michael brown was 6'3". the shots were not fired from a sniper's lair or an ajasonent building on the third floor. so this young man was benlt over. he was stooped. he think he was charging like officer wilson says. we're told, through his surrogate, some woman friend. like a bull charging as an officer with a loaded gun shooting at him. just rushing right on. the head down. or he was already toppling over, having been wounded and he was falling to the ground. that's the only thing to explain that downward trajectory of the bullets to the head and the face. very, very significant to work this out. they should do some examination carefully. that should have been done. the able, if a shot was fired, automatically it was at close range. gunpowder residue has to be found on somebody's clothing. either brown's or wilson's or the fabric of the car. also to determine where all the cartridges, the shells from officer wilson's firing, where were they located? >> i want to get daryl parks in here. you believe the shots to the top of the head, you think that is very telling. up those were the kill shots and they were not necessary in this situation. what does that tell you? >> it tells you that the position of his head when it happened. for example, you know that one of the shots was at the crown, at the apex of his head. it had to be there for that bullet to come in. especially a back to forward position after a hit. the same thing with the second one close to his hail line. that one also came from a back to front position. >> could that have been because as dr. wecht has pointed out, there, you heard one say that he bum rushed someone. >> that's a third person giving it. >> is that a possible scenario? >> it is possible but he would have had his head all the way down for to it happen. it would indicate that he had been hit by the other bullets already. so he was a wounded person already. there was no need to kill him. >> does this autopsy tell us whether or not this shooting was justified? >> no. the autopsy alone does not. there have to be many other things correlated with the autopsy. all the statements from the different witnesses, the shooting of the gun, all of that will have to be taken into account whether a determination can be made. i think in the final analysis, it won't be the autopsy that figures that. including that this young man was unarmed. he was an fleeing felony. he was not an imminent danger. a 6'3" african-american in that young man in that neighborhood, it isn't as if they couldn't identify and locate him. all of those things of to be taken into consideration. all of these things count in police shootings. i can tell in experience and all the things as coroner when we investigated all police shootings. >> first for a quick response, and then we'll to go daryl. the presence of marijuana in his system if toxicology reports come back and show that. is that significant? >> no. marijuana is a mild hallucinogenic. it is not a stimulant. it is of no significance. in terms of what happened with the behavior of michael brown and nothing to do with the behavior of officer wilson. so if that comes back, i do not believe it is of any significance. >> dr. wecht said he doesn't think it is of much significance. >> i don't think it is significant as well in this case. i think what is significant is the officer's level of drugs or his mental state is probably far more important than michael's at the time. >> it has been a very long day for you. sun up to sun down. thank you very much. >> up next, we're learning about officer darren wilson. we'll be right back. and we're checking on the news that you saw moments ago on the streets. this is bill. his doubleheader day at the park starts with back pain... and a choice. take 4 advil in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. peanuts! peanuts! crowd cheers! back here live, we have been watching the protesters, watching the streets. the protests have been largely peaceful. we need to tell you moments ago, a young man was handcuffed and taken into custody. and as we look now, as i am seeing, there is an impromptu press conference that is going on just out of my eyesight to the left, out of my eye line. and again, moments ago, someone was arrested on the streets. again, as we've been saying, there have been peaceful protests going on most of the evening. there is no curfew tonight. as you can probably hear, the police helicopter back up in the sky tonight. the protesters back out on the streets. the national guard also monitoring the streets of ferguson, missouri. we'll give you details on this arrest as we get them in. let's take a look at the video of this young man being arrested here. just moments ago on the streets here. and there it is. there you see it. a big commotion as we were in the break. not exactly sure what's happened. our jake tapper is in the crowd trying to get some information for us. as soon as we get an idea of what's going original we'll bring it to you. we're monitoring it all for you. let's move on and talk about the police officer's identity. it took six days to identify that police officer. his name is darren wilson. he is a policeman who fired the lethal shots into michael brown. but there is still a mystery surrounding the six-year veteran of the ferguson police department. cnn's brian todd has more. >> reporter: this is the first video we're seeing of officer darren wilson in the moments after the shooting. this is the eyewitness who shot the video. >> he is just looking over the body, looking baffled and bewildered. like, trying to explain to the officer, what have i just done. then we get this picture of him pacing back and forth. just like in disbelief. >> reporter: and the first account of officer wilson's version of events. a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation tells cnn, the account of a caller to radio station kftk is accurate and match what's wilson has told investigators. the carol said administration brown punched officer wilson in the face as wilson tried to get out of his squad car to address brown. that brown tried to grab the officer's gun. that they struggled. wilson's gun went off. brown turned and ran and when officer wilson yelled at brown to freeze, brown turned and started taunting the officer. >> then he said all of a sudden, he just started to bum rush him. he just started coming at him full speed. he just kept coming. >> friends of brown. he did not fight for the gun and was shot as he put his hands up. these accounts surface as we get new details on officer darren wilson. a friend of wilson's who didn't want to be named said wilson went through a divorce last year and has a child. sources confirm, this is a photo of wilson first published by yahoo!.com from his father's facebook page. it reference as commendation he got in february. >> he is a gentleman, a quiet officer, and he is, has been an excellent officer for the police department. >> reporter: the 28-year-old has spend four years with the ferguson police and has a clean record according to officials. jake shepherd, a long time friend, was asked if he had any racist tendencies. >> he never talked about minorities. he was of the moral virtue where he would never bring something like that up. >> reporter: a friend of officer wilson's told us, he never made racist comments in public or privately with friends. that friend who spoke to officer wilson since the the shoeing said wilson is struggling right now. a st. louis county police official tells us, wilson has cooperated with the investigation and has been interviewed twice. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> we'll talk more about the officer in a moment. back to our news. the only commotion we've seen within the last couple hours. i want to get to ed lavendera. do we know what happened? >> reporter: it is what we've seen several times through course of the last few hours. these are people, the key tonight is what authorities are telling people. that they need to deem moving. they need to keep moving in a circle around the street here. and people who are not, and standing around too long are basically being arrested for failure to disperse. so i've seen that about three times tonight. we just spoke with captain ron johnson who is trying, he will us he didn't have the exact numbers on how many people had been arrested so far. i've seen two or three. >> he is getting an earful from people. >> we were trying to ask some questions and it didn't take too long. before we were surrounded by a group of demonstrators, kind of overshouting our questions. and again, captain ron johnson passionately defending the way the police are handling this situation. it was interesting. it got to point, we've heard this several times. a lot of the businesses here have been shut down and they're losing money. captain johnson making that point. several of the people who were yelling at him about the way police have responded here. and captain johnson is saying to them, look, by doing this for so long and being out here and in this at times dangerous way, we're destroying what is built here and you're actually scaring people from opening businesses here in the future. >> we spoke to a sandwich store owner who. he is losing about a thousand dollars a day. for a small business, that is a lot of money. especially when you add it up day after day after day. even in this lunch time crowd, people don't want to come in and they don't want to deal with the police presence. i want to get to jake tapper out on the streets. this is the only real confrontation we've seen. there have been a few arrests. we saw some altercations earlier. what have you seen? what happened? >> reporter: well, everything is fine here. we marched all the way down, about a mile down the street and now we're back. i'm here with reverend tapman. i wanted to get her perspective as a woman of the cloth. what is this march about for you? >> it's not only about mike brown. it is about all of those who have been victimized and their rights have been infringed upon. this is about a sense of hopelessness and helplessness and disrespect. so this is something that has been and boiling and it finally erupt. so the march is just about that. they want to see justice. also, just the freedom to voice how they feel. and i think giving them that opportunity makes them feel like they are citizens of this state, but citizens of the united states. >> well said. back to you. >> jake tapper, thank you very much. we'll be hearing from people out on the streets all evening long. when we come back, the roles in the michael brown case. in new york state, we're changing the way we do business, with startup ny. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years. no property 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one or two people arrested from earlier this evening. we'll continue to monitor that. let's get back to our conversation. joining me now, ed davis. a former police commissioner of boston. also with us, the senior political commentator and om ed columnist from the new york time. national security analyst, mark o'ma o'mara. let's talk about this. ed, you are a former police commissioner in boston. you are critical of how this was hand from the very beginning. why so? >> we tried to imagine a scenario where it could have been handled any worse. from the time the body was left to lie in the street and not be covered to the lack of arrival at the home of the victim's family. the outreach, the compassion that needs to be shown was not shown here. that being. this whole incident was on the shoulders of one man, the police chief who is a small town police chief who doesn't have a law office, who doesn't have a public relations office. i think that the lack of leadership beyond the police chief was really shocking in this case. >> a woman claiming to be a friend of officer darren wilson's, she backs up the account of a struggle before the fatal shooting. if this is indeed true, does that make a difference in this case? >> well, there are two different cases. one is the death of michael brown. and i'm not sure i would believe her story. it sounds like it is coming directly from the police officer's account. this is why we have trials. if it gets to trial and a jury that will determine where the facts are. the second issue is what we're seeing on tv right now which agreeing with commissioner davis, this was not inevitable. there is nothing inevitable about what we're seeing. this was a horrible police shooting that should have ended that day with an investigation, possibly an arrest. the series of bad judgment calls. including the lack of involvement by governor nixon. here's a small town dealing with essentially, not just a racial crisis but international focus. it is just objectionable at this stage. the national guard is appropriate to protect the police. we just have to assume that over time, this is going to at least calm down a little bit and then let the judicial process work its way through in this. >> okay, stand by. we're seeing the crowd start to scatter and run and there's a big commotion going on. we're not sure what's going on but we want to keep an eye on it. it is a tinder box. i was out in it today. it can be provoked by police if they use those really heavy handed tactics. what do you make of the situation as we look at the pictures here and throughout the day and really overnight? >> i think there is a lot of frustration. a lot of fatigue. on the streets of ferguson and in america. not necessarily physical fatigue but like kind of a psychic cultural fatigue of having to repeat this process over and over and over again. that this is not just about ferguson and mr. brown and mr. wilson. that this is an issue that i think we have to deal with in a broader sense. that there is bias in our policing and judicial system and our educational system. we found out last month or this month in our preschool systems. from the moment that black and brown people are introduced to power structures in this country, they experience some level of bias. and i think that a lot of there is an exhaling of that pent-up frustration with that. and i feel, my heart goes out to people who are feeling that there. but also who are feeling it everywhere. who are feeling it in this country. it is an important conversation for to us continue to have. only through having it do we get close to even solving it. >> okay. stand by. mark o'mara, i'll get you in on the other side as we continue to watch this. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. now what if i told youok a hotel you can save up to 60%,me first. but you couldn't know the name until after you book? did i say never? i didn't mean it. get up to 60% off hotels on hotwire we're back with breaking news. we have seen several water bottles being thrown and tactical units being moved in here. and ed lavendera is out in the crowd. what can you tell us? what's going on out there? >> reporter: this is a group of demonstrators that have been moving against the rules and the way the police have set it up. can you hear me, don? >> i can hear -- >> reporter: don, can you hear me? all right, so the situation as you're looking over my shoulder, this is a group of several hundred demonstrators. moved up toward the police line. try to let this die down. captain ron johnson had been out here a little while ago as we talk about. talking to the people and they started getting an earful as he started to walk away and go back toward the command center. it seems to have angered some people and they started moving toward the police lines. we're about 25 yards or so behind the demonstrator line. and there is a stand-off here at the intersection. >> hang on, ed. let's listen to that. >> reporter: people must disperse. >> so you can hear what's happening here. police are trying to get the protesters off the streets. there was some disturbance, as you can see. police have put on their gas masks. you can see an officer with a scope rifle on top of what appears to be from my vantage point, i can't see it. a tank-like vehicle. so it has devolved into chaos here as you are witnessing on cnn. it was mostly peaceful for quite some time. and as we are listening to this, i think it is important for us just to listen for a moment and then i'll bring my panel in. especially ed davis as the former police commissioner of boston. let's stand by. i want to you get a flavor of what is going on. we'll be silent for a moment. >> so let's bring in ed davis now. jake tapper, jake is out there. what can you tell us? he is on the street. >> reporter: it's a chaotic scene, as you can see, don. the police are here. and they are aggressively dispersing the crowd. as we've been discussing, the whole point of tonight was the crowd was supposed to keep marching. but somewhere in the last 10, 15 minutes the crowd stopped marching. or many of them did any way. and they started consolidating. and now you're seeing something of a face-off between police, national guard, state, highway patrol, and here's an image that i haven't seen since last time i was in afghanistan. a state patrol. an armored vehicle of some sort. >> less than an hour here -- >> we're walking peacefully with protesters in the street and now this. i'm being told i need to get my gas mask out. pardon me for one second while i prepare it. do you see the members of the community? this is a gentleman helping to lead the parade earlier. and he is encouraging other people including reporters. this is the famous fletcher johnson right here. filming. hey, fletch. as the police are forming this perimeter, and i don't know what they're planning on doing here. we have the media on the side, on the sides. the crowd has dispersed quite a bit. there were individuals way back in the crowd throwing things. it looked like water bottles but they were being thrown at the police and the national guard. the tensions seem to have alleviated at least temporarily. somebody is flying an american flag upside down. the symbol for a distress call. and the troopers, the state police, the state highway patrol, now they're clearing out to make room for another armors vehicle. that sound that you're hearing is coming from the police, incidentally. some sort of alarm system. >> it is what they use. it is like, something they use to get officers. stand by. i want to update our viewers. in case you're just tuning in to cnn, it has devolved into chaos here on the streets. we are seeing members of the national guard here. you see police out in tactical gear. they're trying to disperse the protesters from the streets. some protesters started throwing water bottles. police and members of the national guard started to put on their gas masks. they told jake tap here is out in the crowd that he needs to put on his gas mask as well. as jake has been reporting out. there he said he hasn't seen this since he was in iraq. jake tapper out in the crowd. continue, jake. what are you seeing? >> reporter: you see police officers with guns and batons and shields. most are wearing gas masks. they just parted away for another vehicle to make its way through. the vehicle stopped. it is not coming out. it is really quite a sight. i don't know why they're standing here, ready for such armed confrontation when the crowd has dispersed so significantly. it's really -- i mean if you look at what they're facing -- >> stand by, jake. so we're going to continue to follow this news story. stand by, stand by. it's a very chaotic scene out here. you're watching this unfold as we are. we're standing by with our gas masks. jake tapper was told to put his on. the members of law enforcement are out there with theirs too and they're trying to disperse the protesters from the streets. it was supposed to be a peaceful night with no curfew. the governor ordering, lifting that curfew and bringing in members of the national guard. the next hour of cnn tonight starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com hello. we've been watching this unfold for the last 20 minutes. it started with some people throwing bottles in the crowd, we believe. and some protesters clashing. you can see members of tactical units as well as the national guard. there are members of the community out on bull horns telling people everyone off the street. and you can hear that loud noise, sort of

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