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they end the national nightmare the coronavirus pandemic? the president is saying the virus are go away and this is more about the news media than the pandemic. >> you turn on television, code, covid, covid, covid, a plane goes down, 500 people dead, they don't talk about it. code, covid, covid. on november 5th you won't hear about it anymore. so covid, covid, please don't go and vote, covid. >> the inconvenient truth is the virus is not going away. in fact, the pandemic is getting worse in the united states. the johns hopkins university reported 83,757 new cases of the coronavirus in the u.s. just yesterday. this is the highest number of new confirmed cases reported in a single day since the pandemic began early this year. 94 3 americans, by the way, died on friday from covid 19. you'll the rallies in the world will not make this pandemic go away. some of them actually, given what's going on at these rallies, could make it a whole lot worse. president trump is minutes away from taking the stage in walk shaw, wisconsin. feeling the rath of the new surge, what's the latest? >> it certainly is. yesterday we saw across the united states a record number of new cases. that was also reflected here in wisconsin which saw a record number of new cases yesterday, up more than 4500 cases. this is a state that's averaging nearly 4,000 cases a day. about 1200 people in wisconsin are currently hospitalized with coronavirus. about a month ago that number was only at about 300, so really an exponential rise in coronavirus cases. despite that, the president is holding another rally in the state. we are here last week when he had a rally and now the president rallying, thousands of people here. there are slightly more wearing masks that we've seen previously but still a majority of the people are not wearing masks. that's because the president of the united states continues to downplay the importance of mask wearing, he continues to downplay the pandemic and lie about the surge in cases we're seeing. listen to the president earlier today on how he compares the coronavirus crisis. >> you're not going to hear on news. cnn all they talk about, covid, covid, covid. if a plane goes down with 500 people, they don't talk about it. because they're trying to scare everybody. you have to lead your life. you have to get out. be vigilant. be careful. socially distance. yeah, get too close, put the mask on. put it on. lots of different things. >> the last three and a half years -- >> reporter: when you hear the president compare the crisis to a plane crash with 500 people dying, not only would we obviously cover that but right now we're in a situation where nearly two 500-person planes are crashing every single day in the united states. if you use the president's metrics, 500 people in a plane crash, we have lost 449 planes since the beginning of this coronavirus crisis here in the united states. and yet despite that, wolf, here the president continues to downplay this pandemic, including right here in the state of wisconsin, which as we said, is experiencing a surge in cases and is a crucial battle ground state. the president won this by fewer than 23,000 votes in 2016 and he's looking to cap dhur state once again as part of his path to 270 electoral college votes. >> sadly we are talking about death. there have been so many deaths. right now more than 224,000 mem americans have lost their lives. thank you. barack obama stuffing for joe biden in florida taking direct aim at president trump during a drive-in campaign rally. we're following the biden campaign for us. to put it simply, president obama did not mince any words at all. what did we hear from the former president of the u.s. with ten days to go? >> reporter: president obama asking them to deliver florida for joe biden in november. the former president also saying that if biden wins florida, the election is essentially over. while the former president vouched for his former vice president, he also took aim at president trump. criticizing his hamming of the coronavirus pandemic. also slamming the president's behavior, saying it's not normal for a president to behave that way in office. president obama also took aim over that 0 minutes interview president trump earlier this week. >> he asked what was your priority in the second term. i've run for president, miami, so i want you to know, it's a good idea to have an answer to this question. it's a good idea if you're running for re-election to say here's what i want to accomplish. what did trump say? he got mad and walked out of the interview. he thought the questions were too tough. too tough! miami, listen. if he can't answer a tough question about what would you like to do in your second term, then it's our job to make sure he doesn't get a second term. >> reporter: president obama was trying to appeal to hispanic voters in the miami area, pushing back on president trump and republicans' attempts to paint joe biden as a socialist. the former president called that garbage and said that biden is not a secret socialist at all. one of the really key messages that you heard from obama here today in anyway is urging their supporters to get out and make plans to vote early. more than five million votes have been cast here in the state of florida alone so far with just ten kay days to go until the election. the biden campaign focussing on turnouts in the critical battle ground states. k just ten days to go. wolf. >> he's still got it. if president trump doesn't carry florida, it's almost certainly going to be the end of his presidency. he's not going to get reelected. florida, florida, florida, so important. thank you. joining us, cnn contributor an epidemiologist and former detroit health commissioner. also a former disease detective with the cdc. as much as the president wants to focus on his re-election bid, he can't escape the fact that it's maying out against the backdrop of a deadly pandemic, a pandemic that's only getting worse, well over 83,000 new confirmed cases just reported yesterday by the johns hopkins university as the highest number here in this country since the pandemic began. i want both of you to take a look at a moment from the press conference with the illinois director of public health. watch this. >> we lost an additional 31 lives for a total of 9,418 deaths. these are people who started with us in 2020 and won't be with us at the thanksgiving table. to date we are reporting 3,874 new cases for a total of 364,033 confirmed cases since the start of this pandemic. excuse me, please. >> doctor getting very emotional. totally understandable. doctor, you were detroit's health commissioner. when you see that, when you hear the pain in her voice, what's your reaction? >> health professionals have been working round the clock to try and lasso this pandemic down and all they're seeing is a spike right now as we head into the winter months. that is so disheart oening. anytime anybody in your community suffers, you feel it. when you're quoting numbers in the thousands and tens of thousands, you're going to feel it more. it's a stark contrast to what we're seeing out of this president. 449 jumbo jet crashes in the context of this pandemic somehow is overblown. that contrast should teach you something and tell you something about the failure of simple humanity and empathy at the top. that has left state commissionerings and city health commissioners trying to shuffle to make up for the failed federal leadership. i feel deeply for her. i understand exactly where she's coming from and i think americans do, too. >> listen to this. >> and i'm desperate to find a message that will work. i'm looking for someone to tell me what the message is so we can do what it takes to turn this around. the virus is pitting one group against one another. we need to fight against the virus. we can't do that. we have some tools to do that. we don't have a cure yet. we don't have a vaccine yet but we have a mask and we're asking people to use that. i don't know what else we can say. >> doctor, what's the bottom line here? what will make people realize how serious all this is. clearly that message will not be coming from the president. >> clearly, it won't, wolf. in fact, what we've gotten is so much disinformation and misinformation, i hope that the emotion in her words and the humanity in her message is what resonates with people. that for a public health leader that we can trust. she's talking about in real terms, we don't have a cure. that's honest. but we do have things that work, things as simple as a mask. we've talked over the last seven months about the university of washington studies that show if 90 to 95% of americans were to do that simple thing of wearing a mask and wearing it diligently, we'd save tens of thousands of lives. that's what's at stake here. we're approaching a death toll in america of a quarter of a million people that we've lost to this virus. there are projections that show a terrible scenario that by the end of february next year, we could have lost half a million americans to this pandemic. more than the death toll from the second world war. it comes down to something quite simple. physical distancing, hand hygiene, mask wearing, which i'm sure people are tired of hearing but it is what can protected us. we have some public officials who are pedalling misinformation. >> you're so right. doctor, 34 estatstates are repo a rise. we've been reporting more than 83,000 new confirmed cases across the united states, the highest number yet since the beginning of the pandemic. what would you say to someone watching right now in one of those states where cases are spiking, what should they be doing to stay safe, to keep their loved ones safe, to keep their friends safe right now? >> this is a scary time. but fortunately, there are things we can do. this is a function of the choices that we make. number one, we've got as the doctor said, we've got to be wearing our masks. most important public health intervention we can do. masks are annoying. after a certain point on the day you get tired. if it means protecting yourself, it means protecting your community and taking this on. i think it's worth it. look, i know that right now we're headed into the holidays. there are a lot of folks who want to too it together. if you can, make sure there's fewer people there and you're socially distanced and maybe this time it's worth not going. the last thing i'll say is this: we've got a choice about what kind of future we want. we've got a choice about what the next couple of months look like. i live in a state where the numbers are setting record, but we've got a choice. i'm asking everybody to do what they can to protect themselves, their family members, and the people in their community. we can do this. we are americans. when we come together there's nothing we can't take on. this is a choice we have to make. i believe we can make the right decision. >> dr. fauci and dr. francis collins say they're sadly not going to be spending time with their family out of concern. you got to be safe. you got to be very, very careful. right now as so many other families across the country are sadly going to avoid the traditional dinners at the end of november. thanks to both of you for what you're doing. we really appreciate it. >> thank you wolf. >> a new report tonight suggests the president is ditching some senators fighting for re-election. his bleak assessment of the gop's prospects for keeping a majority in the u.s. senate. that's next. stock slices. for as little as $5, now anyone can own companies in the s&p 500, even if their shares cost more. at $5 a slice, you could own ten companies for $50 instead of paying thousands. all commission free online. schwab stock slices: an easy way to start investing or to give the gift of stock ownership. schwab. own your tomorrow. 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>> well, i think everything is always about loyalty to him, so i think that's certainly an element of it, because you see, several senators have been distancing themselves from him. susan collins, obviously, in maine who refused to endorse him. martha mcsally refused to answer a question as to whether she was proud of her support for him. and even john cornyn who is part of the leadership in the senate and has a closer than expected race in texas has now gup begun criticize the president's handling of the coronavirus. that disturbs the president. there's no doubt about it. so it's a little bit of a case of you're breaking with me? no. i'm breaking up with you. there's an element of that. so i think there's another reason for it which is that if the president's sending a signal to these donors, don't expect to have a senate as a hedge against biden. if what you're thinking is that if biden gets elected it's not a tragedy because you've got a republican senate, you're not going to have a republican senate. so you better make sure that i get reflekt electricity -elecre. >> very interesting indeed. as you know, senate republicans will likely confirm the president's third u.s. supreme court pick on monday. there's no deal on an economic stimulus package for so many suffering americans and there likely won't be before the election. do you believe that's adding to the president's pessimism about control of the senate? >> i don't know but i'm sure he's irritated with the senate. republican senators have indicated they do not want to vote on a stimulus before the election. this has been the position of senator mcconnell and even though the president likes to blame nancy pelosi for the stalled state of negotiations, it has been the republicans in the senate who have be balking at any kind of large stimulus, and i'm sure he's frustrated about it because it probably would help the president if he signed a stimulus package before the election and the senate is standing in his way. >> joe biden spent at least part of the day campaigning in pennsylvania, a state that the president won back in 2016. biden is up seven points in the cnn poll of polls. there you see the numbers. 51-44. is it smart for him to spend precious campaign there when this so many other battle ground states in play right now? how much reliability are the polls showing given the example of what occurred four years ago? >> yeah, yeah. well, look, i think that the thee states that are most critical to him here are pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin. those are the states that really delivered the presidency to donald trump by very narrow margins four years ago. they're states of particular strength for biden. he is a native of pennsylvania. he has always done well in these northern industrial states. and so i think it's smart to buckle down there. one of the mistakes hillary clinton made in twaktz not to campaign in some of these states, wisconsin, most notably, and so i don't think biden wants to make the same mistakes but is using his surrogates in an impressive way. president obama was in florida today. obama is important to biden. florida is a state where all the ballots will be counted on election night. they count their absentee ballots in real time. pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. we're not sure we're going to get a verdict from them for several days. florida's important, and barack obama's important to him, where minority voters may make the difference, so it seems to me the biden campaign are being very strategic about how they're dividing up their big guns here. >> you agree very quickly that if president trump loses florida, it's over for him, right? 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we took a ride with one group to find out. >> i like alpha males. i think pruch is an alpha male. >> it seems like -- they make it sound like nobody's going to vote for them. so we feel like we needed to get together to show there are people who are going to vote for him. >> trump rally protest. it was unfurling a 30 foot by 50 foot american nag. have everybody gather around, play the nags anthem and being able to be with friends and family. >> unofficial trump events like this have been happening all over the country. car care advance and boat parades. while trump's working class supporters have gotten lots of attention, in 2016, a third of his voters made a hundred thousand dollars a year. >> the people on the left that really think we're deplorable think we're deplorable. if hanging out with families, bringing your kids out and having a good time is deplorable, i guess we'll take it. >> i went riding with eric nelson who's been riding buggies since he was 14. eric took two hours to come to the rally. >> hopefully you heard her scream. >> that's what the mic's for. >> he helps us keep the money we make and let us work as hard as we want and not give our money away. >> people like nancy pelosi can, you know, get her fundings through this giving money who aren't willing to work fore i. i worked all my life. i worked to put myself through college so i can get a job so i can enjoy a event like this. he really is for your hard working people. do i think he's racist? no. i think he's racist against lazy people. >> the rally was mostly men. that's not surprising. men are more likely to support trump than women. what they said they like about trump is he's just like them. >> he's one of us on steroids because he runs a great big business and makes a lot more money than we do. >> we can be crass. we didn't hire him as a president. we hired him as a business american because our country was starting to tank. >> being a moral leader? >> i don't think so. >> he says things to upset people and we don't care. they don't fully understand what's going on. >> cnn, winchester bay, oregon. >> thank you very much for that report. the president of the united states, he's been out there campaigning today, including in ohio, a truly pivotal state that voted for him in 2016. in the state, no president since 1960 has won. we'll have an in depth look when we return. that will change me . yes. ♪ start your someday today with twenty to forty percent off all bridal. with twenty to forty percent are you managing ...using fingersticks? 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john king is at the magic wall and breaks it down for us. >> no republican has won the white house without winning ohio. it's absolutely essential to the president's comeback strategy. what can we learn from the 2016 map? one of the most interesting things we saw, the polls close early here. in southern ohio, the small counties, one of the first things we saw in 2016 was the source of president trump's white working rural support. look at this southern ohio border. 70% here. 6% here. 76% there. that was the first sign that president trump was overperforming even mitt romney, running it up in ohio. is the trump base solid or are some defecting to joe biden? for democrats, the most partner part, turn voters out in the city. is african-american turnout high this cleveland? can joe biden get a higher margin in cuyahoga county than hillary clinton did? including here pretty big margin in lake county. these are the suburbs to the northeast of cleveland. can joe biden turn this blue or at least make it more competitive? if he wants to win in ohio, lake county outside of cleveland will tell you more. starr county. former vice president biden went here after the first presidential debate. why, you might ask, right? look at the margins in 2016. which would he go to a population donald trump won by such a lopsided margin? this is one of the pivot counties. here's the 2012 race. it was barack obama. 2008, barack obama. then flipped to donald trump on 2016. on election night watch southern ohio, watch dark county. it is red maybe trump has a comeback in ohio. if it is blue, joe biden is on his way to the white house. >> thank you very much for this. i'm joined by the former governor of ohio, john kasich, who's endorsed joe biden. thanks for joining us. i wants to play a clip of the president. he just landed in milwaukee, wisconsin, he's going to be giving a speech later tonight in wisconsin, and he was asked by a reporter if he felt that the republicans would be able to hold the majority in the u.s. senate? listen to this. >> do you think you hold the senate in the election? >> i hope to hold the senate. we do. i think from a presidential stand, we' standpoint, we're doing very well. the crowd here is enthusiastic. i hope we do. i think we're going to take back the house pause people are tired of nancy pelosi. i think we'll take back the house. >> governor kasich, what do you think? >> first of all, there's no way, woman, that the republicans are going to take back the house. secondly, and look, i'm doing this as just giving you my analysis. this is not any -- might have endorsed biden but that's not what i'm doing here tone. he's also not going to win wisconsin, minnesota, or michigan. in ohio, it's amazing that it is as close as it is. if it wasn't, he wouldn't have been in circleville today, a little town south of columbus. think about ohio, wolf, as a hockey stick. the western part of the state, along with the southern part of the state and you heard a lot of this from john king. in the southern part of the state they have to have a very big turn out for trump to win. because the reason down in the southern part of the state is there aren't as many people town there. western side of the state will give him good numbers but his challenge is the rest of the state. you know, the middle and here in columbus, in central ohio. i think john hit on a very important point. that is in cleveland, the african-american turnout, will the african-american voters come out? it's almost in some respects not the same, not quite the same as philadelphia. philadelphia kind of runs the state of pennsylvania in a lot of respects and it's about the automatic turnout. that's why you saw barack obama appearing there at a speech. he also delivered his speech for the convention in film. when you look at cleveland is the african-american turnout going to be there. it's all in ohio going to be about turnout. frankly, it's shocking that it's this close and we're a few days away. the isn't visiting states that he shouldn't have to visit. they should be in his column and they're actually not. >> ohio, as you know better than most right now is in the middle of one of the country's worst covid spikes. will that be a deciding factor in the final ten days? all of his campaign speeches, he's continuing, it's hard to believe, to downplay this deadly pandemic. >> well, wolf, you know the virus itself has our seniors very, very concerned, and when he -- he has rallies like this and they don't wear masks and he tries to downplay it, it doesn't help him with our seniors. it doesn't help when he attacks biden as too old because the seniors don't like to be thought of in that way. we saw this in the 2008 election, the suburbs. he didn't do well in the suburbs. there's a fear that there's going to be a snom canny coming, so that's the suburbs. but beyond the suburbs, there's great concern that he's losing that support as well. so you have the western side of the state that's going to give him strong support, the southern part of the start that's going to give him strong support. the question is do the rest of the state -- do the these poem vote in great numbers and what happens in the rest of the state? i'd call it too close to call. i was saying that i thought donald trump would win. i kind of think he still will. i wouldn't bet any money on that. i think it's possible that joe biden could win ohio. >> he still attracts huge crowds at these rallies. even though they're dangerous and wearing no masks and there's no social distancing but the crowds are large and enthusiastic, as they were four years ago. it turned out that they were indicative of very narrow wins in several key battle ground states. >> i think, wolf, you have to be very, very careful when you look at crowds. i remember being with mitt romney down in the western part of the state. the crowd was enormous. the enthusiasm, through the roof. i remember leaving that night and thinking, you know what? i think he's going to win. well, he didn't. it's very difficult to judge where we are. you've got to look at the polling and the polling from legitimate polesters and right now they're saying right now in this state it's too close to call. so yeah, i will say this. his supporters, and you had a piece on just a couple of minutes ago, his supporters are strong and loud. the question is how many of them are there at the end of the day. >> we will find out in ten days, indeed. very close in ohio right now. governor kasich, really appreciate it. thank you for joining us. >> i'll see you soon again, wolf. thank you. >> thank you. tomorrow on the original series "first ladies" we look at eleanor roosevelt. by the time that easy noer roosevelt reached the white house she was at the fore front of trying to ease the suffering caused by the great depression and the leader for a campaign of civil rights. that made her a target. watch this. >> the ku klux klan eventually put a price on her head. $25,000 if you could kill eleanor roosevelt. this was criticism on steroids. >> we ask every sit zen to immediately report any information regarding espionage -- >> the most powerful opponent is the head of the fbi. >> the first entry into her fbi file by j. edgar hoover, who hated her guts, is her support for civil rights. that for him is the most un-american. >> the file is about 3500 pages long. it could fill a whole file cabinet top to bottom. the earliest document in it is from 1924. >> every word on behalf of justice for black people was considered communist. >> be sure to tune in for the first ladies. that airs tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. russia initially said it has already developed a vaccine for the coronavirus but now it seems russia is lagging behind western vaccine makers. we have new information. we'll share it when you when we return. to give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you don't. 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