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CNNW The Situation Room July 11, 2014

Spying, germany kicks out the cia station chief describing u. S. Actions as stupid. Ill speak live this hour with the House Intelligence Committee chairman mike rogers. We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. Im wolf blitzer in jerusalem. Youre in the situation room. The breaking news. The palestinian rocket fire is relentless and so is the israeli response. Palestinians say the air strikes on hamas targets in gaza have taken 100 lives, many of them civilians. Both sides theyre preparing for a longer, more violent conflict. Israel has thanks massed at the border and 30,000 military reservists have now been called to their units. Hamas is threatening to attack israels International Airport. Our correspondents are standing by with the kind of coverage only cnn can bring to you. And ill talk with the spokesman for hamas this hour. Ill also speak with the spokes olympian for the israeli Prime Minister and the former u. S. Special envoy for the middle east, retired general anthony zinni. First my firsthand look at this growing conflict. At any moment here in israel, a rocket attack siren could go off. You can hear the sirens have just gone off. Were all being told to get to a shelter. So were running we had to drop everything to get to safety. Then an anxious wait for the all clear. Before coming out to see if anyone was hurt or killed. Earlier here, a rocket slammed into this gas station and a huge fire broke out still smoldering when we arrived. There was a rocket directly hit behind me. Did it hit the truck. No, it hit there where you the see now the tractor. Yeah. And, of course, because of the fire started from the truck and 11 cars were burned totally. How much warning is there for the folks to run to shelter . Maximum one minute. Maximum. Usually its less. Sirens went off in tel aviv, as well where at least one rocket was intercepted. And now is, hamas militants are vowing they plan to target ben gurian International Airport. According to the Israeli Defense forces around 100 rockets were fired at israel today. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed air strikes will continue till quiet is restored. Those strikes now responsible for at least 100 deaths according to palestinian authorities. This video posted online is said to show the threestory haas of the family where five people were reported killed in their sleep. Others injured are rushed into ambulances. Medical sources say the Emergency Rooms are overwhelmed and patients are being treated on the floor. In a video statement overnight, the military wing of hamas blamed israel for starting the clash and claimed theyve used only a small portion of their arsenal and could fight for weeks. Adding to the danger, a threat from a new direction. Overnight a rocket was fired from lebanon into israel raising the specter of a twofront war. I suspect this isnt a second front. You have to watch it because if it were to be, it would essentially fulfill one of israels worse nightmares and that is hamas and hezbollah literal lili being capable of reaching the entire country with their high trajectory weapons. In gaza maybe 700, 800, 900 are injured. Still the rockets keep firing into israel. Lets go to live to our Senior Correspondent ben wedeman joining us from gaza city with the latest. Whats the latest there, ben. Reporter the latest is weve seen a series of air strikes throughout the gaza strip. We were in the northern part of the strip today going from one house after another that had been hit by these israeli air strikes. We ended up in a house in ji ballia in the northern part of the strip where a missile had hit the house and a piece of shrapnel had flown off and ripped off half the brain of a 4yearold boy. Now, the people in the house told us they had received no warning whatsoever. This really underscores a basic fundamental difference between israel and gaza even though the israelis arent doing this knock on the roof system where they call someone in a house about to be targeted and warn them to leave, oftentimes that doesnt happen. Yes, the israeli people are running to bomb shelters. Here there are no shelters, no air raid sirens, no iron dome system. So people have to depend on their five senses. When you drive around gaza, you have your eyes wide open, youre listening carefully to whats above. And we were in one town where during a life shot for cnn international, i 15u9 two apache helicopters just above the town. People just watched. Nobody ran away. Everybody just watched and listened. I spoke to one man in the town who said were so used to this, we watch the missiles fired from gaza, we watch the israeli air strikes. Theres nothing else we can do. We cant hide so we just watch it. Wolf . Ben, do most of the palestinians and youve been going from the north to the south throughout gaza. Its not a very big area. Do most of those people youre speaking to, average palestinians support hamas firing these rockets and missiles into israel . Well, what ive seen in the four days ive been here is that initially there was annoyance. There was anger at hamas among many people here because of the current flareup. Not because they have any love for israel. They just didnt see the point of it all because its obviously very disruptive. But increasingly you go around. They talk about the death toll. More than 100 people dead. Over 500 people wounded. Theyre getting angrier and angrier. We were at one house that was completely obliterated. People were talking about im going to go out and get my own rocket and fire it at israel that theyre just fed up with this violence. And their annoyance with hamas is being replaced by a very old anger in israel for a long history. Ben wedeman in gaza be, be careful. We dont often get a chance to hear directly from hamas. But just awhile ago, i spoke with a top hamas official. Joining us now from bay ru, osama ham dedahamdan. You heard president Mahmoud Abbas call on hamas to stop the rocket fire into the israel. What will it take for hamas to stop launching rockets and missiles into israel . Well, it needs just only one condition. That israels stop its violation for the cease fire agreement which was agreed on in 2012 to stop the aggressions against the palestinians in gaza and west bank. The one who started the fight was israel. So them have to stop that first. Clearly the israelis are going to continue striking in gaza if the rockets come in from hamas in gaza. Is there any effort to achieve a ceasefire . I believe the israelis are targeting is the civilians from the first day. They believe this cause heavy pressure on hamas because the civilians are very precious and valuable for hamas. But its clear also that when they started that tact, they did not get net attention to the civilians. We are talking now about 70 of the casualties, mostly killed and injured people, women and children. And the other part is mostly civilians. So we believe in both ways the israelis are attacking the civilians. We want to protect our civilians and its not our own thing to do that by acting against the israeli attacks towards the civilian people. Youve heard the criticism of hamas not only from the israel but the United States, the europeans that hamas is launching rockets and missiles random little into israel aiming at civilian targets. What do you say to that . Everyone knows that hamas is not aiming against the civilians. If hamas wants to aim against the civilians, it would be more easier. All the targets which was declared by the militant wing of hamas was militant targets or semi militant targets. The one who attacked a navy base is not taking the civilians. The one who is attacking the militant airports is not attacking civilians. While on the other hand, israelis are daily every hour attacking the civilians. And this is i was down in the south not far away from the border between israel and gaza and a rocket came into a fairly populated civilian area, blew up basically a whole gas station there. It didnt look like there were any military targets nearby. Thats true because no one is talking about the Palestinian Civilians. When you up this story, no one is ready to listen. But when it came to israelis, everyone is taking care and talking. I want to ask, we have 100 civilians killed. 75 are women and children. Who is talking about that and blaming israel for that . Everyone is talking about israel right to protect itself. What about the right for the palestinians to protect themselves to protect their people . To live in occupied land. We are talked about occupied palestinian land. Everyone knows its occupied by the israelis. International solutions is asking israel to leave but theyre not doing that. If anyone want to stop this, he has to go directly to the point. And the occupation. Make an end for this occupation. You will make an end for all the problem. There were reports today that hamas is targeting commercial aircraft coming into ben gurian airport, israels International Airport outside of tell an veeb. Are you targeting planes coming into israel . This it is totally false. Hamas declared a message, has a declaration telling the commercial flights not to the approach Ben Gurion Airport. So they wont be hit by the missiles. So we are warning them because we want their safety. We want the commercial flight safety. We want the safety of the civilians and we know the israelis will not warn them because the israelis are wishing, hoping, maybe praying to have such a tragedy so they can use it against hamas. This is part of hamas where to avoid the civilians or avoid any attack or tragedy for the civilians. Are you bracing for an Israeli Ground invasion of gaza . We are not bracing for any kind of fight. In fact, we as palestinians are seeking our rights and we hope if we can have that peacefully for more than 20 years, the palestinians were negotiating and israel was undermining the Peace Process. Mainly the last round of the peace negotiations and everyone knows that, mainly in the United States administration. And now, everyone knows that nettenia shoe started this military operation to cover up himself after undermining the Peace Process. So the palestinians are not willing to have the fight but if there was no chances to have peace, they will fight for their dignity, their freedom, their independence and their independent sovereign state which they are seeking to have in the near future. One final question. Are you like president Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, ready to accept whats called a twostate solutionings . Israel and palestinian . Everyone knows there was an agreement between all the palestinian groups in 2006 that all the palestinians have a National Target to achieve a palestinian independent state on the lines of the fourth of june 67 with jerusalem as East Jerusalem as a capital and the right of return for the refugees. That was a National Agreement between all the palestinians. And it was at that time a good chance to achieve peace. Unfortunately, no one get that chance. We hope that the palestinians can achieve their goals with a minimum kind of sacrifices with a minimum the minimum number of casualties but unfortunately, the israelis are doing against that, acting against that, taking over the land, killing the civilians. And they are lying every time talking that hamas is targeting the civilians while they are the side who is targeting our civilians mainly women and children. Will you accept the twostate solution . We have a clear position about that. This is a decision is supposed to be made by the palestinian and independent sovereign state. There will be an elected government and this government will make the decision and all the palestinians including hamas have to respect the decision of this government. Osama hamdan joining us from beirut, thanks very much for joining us. And coming up live, were here in jerusalem. Well get israels response. Ill speaking with mark regular ga, the spokesman for Benjamin Netanyahu. How close is israel to sending Ground Troops into gaza . Ill ask him. Well also go inside the iron dome. Thats israels hitech Missile Defense system, shooting hamas rockets right out of the sky. I saw that up close earlier today. Stay with us. Youre in the situation room. Were live from jerusalem. Were live here in jerusalem. Youre looking at live pictures of jerusalem. You see a live picture of the israeli supreme court. We just heard a spokesman for hamas blame israel for this conflict. Joining us the spokesman for the israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He says you started this most recent campaign and you have to stop. We would think hamas is a movement of boy scouts just interested in good deeds. Hamas is officially designated a terrorist organization by the United States, by canada, by the European Union and many others. This is a brutal terrorist organization. This flowery language and kind words cant obscure that fact. Is there a ceasefire negotiation going on right now . I can say the following. Our goal is to bring peace and quiet to the israels citizens they dont have the to live in fear of the rockets coming from gaza. Too many rockets, hundreds over the last few weeks. It has to stop. It canning stop one way or another but it has to stop. Is the egypt is, turkey, qatar, the United States involved . Many people want to help. We cant agree to a ceasefire that hamas wants. Hamas wants a bandaid. As Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said, they would like to have a few minutes tonight rest and bandage their wounds and start firing again. Thats not in the cards. We want to come out of this conflict knowing for a sustained period of time the people of israel can live without the fear of rockets coming in from gazaing there really arent any serious negotiations under way fur a ceasefire . We see. Hamas continues to shoot rockets even tonight. They say theyre going to continue doing so as long as israel pounds targets in gaza. Thats putting the cart before the horse because its hamas that over the last few weeks fired hundreds of rockets into israel. We didnt really respond. We responded in a way to give diplomacy a chance. We deliberately gave them time to deescalate and they chose to keep shooting rockets. Thats why the ben wedeman reported the palestinians themselves where is angry at hamas saying why have you escalated the crisis so we have this conflict. The and the Palestinian People of gaza are right. There have been very few casualties, no fatalities in israel. 100 palestinians are dead. Many of them civilians, young kids, elderly, 700 or 800 severely injured. There seems to be a disproportionality going on. Im not going to apologize there arent israeli deaths. Hamas has fired hundreds of rockets into our cities and our townships trying to kill and murder as many israeli civilians as they can. Why havent they succeeded . Israel has invested billions in irons, air raid shelters, fortified buildings all the things because we care about the publicing to safeguard our population. Secondly, the iron dome, a technological feat, a u. S. I israeli joint venture, a very effective combat tested antimissile system. Here id like to take the opportunity to thank the american people, the american administration, the congress. This iron dome system, would. Its an americanisraeli joint venture. We thank you for your participation. Are commercial aircraft flying out of ben gurion in danger . No, we take precautions. Ive got family coming in and out in the airport. I dont think theres any serious danger. Theyre telling International Flights dont go to the israel because of all the missiles going on. Those flights could be in trouble. Hamas says a lot of things. 100 israelis dead here and there. Theres a lot of bravado there. The International Flights in and out of the Ben Gurion Airport are safe. You heard me when i pressed him, they accept the twostate solution. He was being a little bit diplomatic there. He didnt say yes but at the same time, he said if this is the will of the Palestinian People at some point down the road, they would accept that. You heard him say that. I wamped the whole interview. I smiled a bit. Ive never seen someone be so disingenuous. He said were not targeting civilians. No one believes that. Even the hamas people dont believe that. Everyone knows hamas has a history of targeting innocent civilians. You only have to read the Hamas Charter which has been translate flood many languages. Thats what theyre all about. Thats why so many countries around the world have declared them a terrorist organization. If israel sends Ground Troops, armored personnel carriers into gaza, what would be the mission be . The mission is clear. The mission is to safeguard the israeli public. I said to you yesterday our mission is defensive. Its to protect our people. Id ask viewers if you were living in a country in the United States or around the world and terrorists on the other side of the frontier were shooting rockets into your country, what would you demand of your government . You would demand your Government Act to protect you. Thats what the Israeli Government will deliver. Mark, thanks very much for joining us. My pleasure, sir. Well stay in close touch with you, as well. Coming up, live from jerusalem, well

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