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Capital which has gone from flames, fury and deadly street fighting to a signed peace deal. Marathon talks brokered by european diplomats ended this morning with an agreement to holt the slaughter and begin a reform process. But in the bloodstained streets of kiev, there is still so much anger and plenty of doubt. Our Senior International correspondent Nick Paton Walsh reports. Reporter fireworks of victory fired in rage, a hole where the riot police have been. 24 hours ago, this street was the scene of pitch live gunfire between the police and protesters. Now, absolutely no police around. They have abandoned this position two hours ago. Just protesters to be seen. You can even catch a taxi. A remarkable turnaround. The protesters and now the power here. In the morning, the deal emerged between the president and the opposition that would weaken yanukovychs powers and call for early elections. But the crowd here scattered and angry at the dozens of dead werent convinced. It took blunt talk from european diplomats to see it through. Then it was signed. The interior minister, the mps, driven around in cars that remind you that power means money here. They now have ten days to appoint a new cabinet. Look what happened when the protesters met the president s people. President yanukovych is still president until early elections. This old man screams, we need to kill you. That decision to return to the old constitution, he says, cost the lives of 100 people. It makes no sense. And under the deal, the protesters must disarm by saturday night and begin clearing the area by sunday. Thats not about to happen any time fast. This isnt over yet. Wolf, the key question is, do the opposition leaders have to send these protesters home now that theyve signed this deal . The 48hour clock is ticking since that new law was passed by parliament. We saw the huge former boxer address the crowd saying the government is trying to divide us. Many of them cheered him back. We are not out of the woods at all because one man took the stage and said, unless yanukovych resigns by 10 00 tomorrow morning, the crowd must act. So concerns this deal isnt enough, it keeps yanukovych in post and the real fears are, where are Security Forces . They have been absent from this area. No sign of them at all. Do they have plans to retake this if the protesters keep their side of the deal . Still very, very iffy, as you point out, a dangerous situation. Nick paton walsh in kiev for us. President obama called Vladimir Putin a while ago to enlist his support for the ukraine agreement even though that deal could work against putins own longterm Strategic Interests. Meantime, the violence in ukraine has already tarnished putins proud olympic moment. Brian todd has been looking into this part of the story for us. Brian . Wolf, this is a time when so much attention was focused on president putin. His perceived hand in this tarnished his image. He was basking in gold in sochi. Photo opps with athletes. And then just when it reached a creshendo, analysts say the violence in the ukraine did to Vladimir Putin what chechens couldnt. We have scenes of potential terrorist attacks and we have the images of the square and streets of kiev where the brutality of the protest movement and clashes with the government. Reporter yes, ukraine is a different country and kiev is almost 650 miles from sochi but theres been a heavy hand with the recent problems in ukraine. Lower gas prices, phone calls with Viktor Yanukovych that are being reported on, russian envoys going on. Reporter putins critics say the face weve seen in sochi is for public consumption. When it comes to the ukraine this is a nonnegotiable issue for putin. Reporter anything to keep ukraine under his thumb. How frustrated is Vladimir Putin about what is going on right now . Hes greatly frustrated because the whole point of the sochi olympics was to encapsulate the new russia which he has resided over since 2000. Its also become a focal point of how things have started to go wrong for him. And theres now concern that after the closing ceremonies, when the spotlight is away from sochi, putin may be angry enough to take a harder line in the ukraine. Analysts say to keep an eye on one area, the peninsula, thats part of ukraine but theres Russian Military there. Part of the black sea fleet is there and a lot of russians live in that area. Thats a place that Vladimir Putin could flex his muscles. Wolf . Not only high stakes for russia but for the ukraine. Thats right. Popping up in an unstable Ukrainian Government with billions of dollars in this situation. One analyst told bloomberg news, quote, meddling with the ukraine could cost Vladimir Putin and his country a lot of money, wolf. Thanks very much, brian todd, for that. Lets dig deeper. Joining from kiev is the Senior Editor of the knew republic. Shes on the scene in kiev. Just got there with some good insight. Also joining us, the chief National Security correspondent, jim sciutto. You got some new information on this deal . I do. I spoke to a senior state official describing the circumstances of the deal. There were 22 hours of negotiations that led to this. But also still to this moment, as described by this official, a very fragile agreement and noting that several of the radicals among the opposition say they will not honor this agreement. Also noting that 75 of those victims killed yesterday, remember we were talking about this in the last 24 hours, they were shot by snipers. A real outburst of violence then. And the other thing the state Department Official was describing to me is he had a call today from president obama to the ukrainian president. Russian president. Russian president , rather. That was preceded by nine phone calls from Vice President biden to the ukrainian president describing that the u. S. Officials have been involved in this for a number of weeks going into december. Lets bring julia into this discussion. How does this play out for putin . Youve been doing a lot of reporting on this. You know, so far its looking a little fragile. The devils in the details. The elections that yanukovych has agreed to arent until december. The changes to the constitution wont be introduced until september. So we dont know if this is going to hold and if it doesnt hold, putin, like your report said, is going to have to take a harder line. What does ma methat mean, taa harder line. Unlikely you would actually send Russian Troops into the ukraine. Isnt that true . I dont know. Never rule anything out with Vladimir Putin. Hes been known to surprise pretty much everyone. Hes a pretty unpredictable guy. Theyve frozen the second trench of the loan. So theyve accused the west of trying to blackmail the ukraine by threatening sanctions but they are doing the same thing, holding up the loan saying we dont know if this government is going to hold and if it is not going to hold, how do we get our money back . They are clearly counting on this to continue. Jim, if the president of the United States and russia speak on the phone for an hour, thats pretty significant. No question. This channel of communication has to stay open. The president , the White House Press secretary have been saying, this is not a chess board. Were not returning to soviet u. S. Battles over territory here. But the fact is, both of these countries are very involved in this. The u. S. And russia. Theres a pull from the east to the west. The opposition figures want to be closer to the european union, the government. The Ukrainian Government wants to be closer to russia. So thats a fact. So you need the u. S. And russia to be talking and, you know, as weve been hearing, that engagement from the u. S. Side has been continuing for some time. Julia, i dont know if you saw the very strong oped article today, the pussy riot band member that was beaten and detained yesterday in sochi. She writes in the article, among other things, can a pharaoh shut down a city, can he declare a blockade in time of peace . Yes, if he lives in russia. Thats pretty bold, given what is going on in russia, for someone to be writing those words against putin. Well, first of all, shes writing it in the New York Times and, you know, russian authorities dont care so much about what is being written in the western he is from. They only care if it concerns investment and thats been going down the hill for a couple of years now. Shes not off the mark. A lot of foreigners have said, hey, look, its really nice. Were free to move around. It doesnt seem all that bad but its really an island. You know, we saw a few protesters who were found guilty today in moscow. Some of them had you know, it was a peaceful protest that turned violent on the eve of Vladimir Putins third inauguration. Another is serving a decade in jail for throwing a lemon at a special operations officer. Putin is cracking down on he had independent media, or what is left of it. Hes cracking down on opposition. But this is the sochi olympics have been effectively kind of, hey, look over here. Julia, thank you very much. Julie is in kiev and jim sciutto is here in washington. Up next, americans recruited and trained by terrorists in syria to bring their deadly skills back to u. S. Soils. Why officials are very worried that could be the next big terror threat. And the Rocker Ted Nugent is kind of apologizing, sort of reluctantly, for calling president obama a subhuman mongrel. Does that get nugent and republicans off the hook . 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Believes when they arrive in syria they are encouraged to go to special Training Camps to get crucial bombmaking skills and ultimately return to their home countries to launch attacks. Were seeing now the parents of training complexes in syria to train people to go back to their countries and, of course, conduct more terrorists attacks. Reporter yemen is deeply involved, u. S. Officials say. That group has tried to continue to attack the United States. U. S. Officials estimate about 70 americans and perhaps hundreds of westerners who dont need visas to enter the u. S. Have gone to syria. No one is certain what has happened to them next. The greatest fear of western counterterrorism officials moving forward is that al qaeda affiliate in syria will prioritize launching attacks against the west. U. S. Officials tell us these trains sites often move locations. Its made more complicated by the fact there is also online cybertraining, if you will, going on in syria. The middle of a really nasty war zone making it almost impossible for the u. S. To be entirely certain about the level of involvement of americans at this time. Wolf . Another major terror headache for the u. S. To worry about. Barbara, thank you. Coming up, a rock stars shocking remarks about president obama, now a reluctant apology. But ted nugent doesnt stop there. Well hear exactly what he had to say. Thats coming up. Plus, will colorados new marijuana money push other states to legalize pot . Life could be hectic. As a working mom of two young boys angies list saves me a lot of time. After reading all the reviews i know im making the right choice. Online or on the phone, we help you hire right the first time. With honest reviews on over 720 local services. Keeping up with these two is more than a full time job, and i dont have time for unreliable companies. Angies list definitely saves me time and money. 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They want me to apologize for using street fighter terminology like subhuman mongrels but that leftist, mindless, soulless, unprofessional Dishonest Media will constantly level allegations of pedestrian file and draft dodge injury towards me and no one seems to mind that they lie, while im just using metaphorical street language to describe corrupt, powerabusing elected officials who break their vow, violate their vow to the u. S. Constitution. Did you cross the line by calling the president of the United States america that and if you saw barack obama, would you apologize to him for saying that about him . Yes, i would. I did cross the line. I do apologize, not necessarily to the president , but on behalf of much better men than myself. Pressed by ferguson, nugent grudgingly apologized a little bit further. People are saying it wasnt a real apology. So, again, for the record, are you apologizing to the president of the United States of america, barack obama, for calling him a subhuman mongrel . Yes. If he hears this, and theres a good chance its going to be played later today, and hes watching or listening, what would you say to him directly . Good lord, theres an agenda for you. Hes violated so many laws. Hes violated his oath to the constitution. He has scammed the people so drastically since his campaign back when he was a senator in illinois. Hes done so many terrible, wrong things for america. Hes literally taking us on the fast track from being the greatest quality of life in the world and the most productive nation in the world to being something much lesson all those levels. All right. Lets discuss what we just heard with Gloria Borger and van jones. Va

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