struggling to recover from gunshot wounds. they should be enjoying a mild sunday evening. the fact that they are not and for 29 people never will again is the reason we're here tonight and the reason we weep. there are vigils for the 29 men, women and children who have been murdered in two mass shootings in the last 24 hours. that's in addition to another mass shooting earlier in the week. nine killed overnight at a dayton, ohio, night spot. 20 earlier yesterday at that walmart in el paso, texas. in what authorities have reason to believe is another act of anti-immigrant, white supremacist domestic terrorism. the alleged killer, who we are not naming, traveled more than 600 miles from his home to a city more than 80% hispanic. his name is on a hate-filled manifesto shortly before the killing began. one line reads, this is tack an attack to the hispanic invasion of texas, which is similar to the pittsburgh gunman. they are removed from acceptable political discourse. by the same taken, it's hard to ignore the fact that they echo, sometimes even using the same language, some of the themes of this president of a nation under siege, being invaded, facing an infe infesta infest infestation. the el paso suspect believed all this before donald trump became president and calls any attempt to blame the president, quote, fake news. which are also the president's words. in discussing the subject, we think it's important to mention no president has flirted with such themes, let alone given voice to them. the question tonight in doing so has he given license for people who hold the ugliest and most belligerent versions of these belie beliefs? >> hate has no place in our country. we're going to take care of it. we have to get it stopped. >> as we said, there are vigils in two cities tonight. we begin in el paso tonight. >> reporter: at 10:39 saturday morning came the first calls for help. a 21-year-old white male walked into this walmart in east el paso and unleashed a deadly attack with an assault-style rifle. >> wondering what happened. i'm looking to see what's going on. i hear boom, boom, boom, boom. we all run out. >> reporter: thousands of shoppers, including families, simply thinking of back to school shopping lists filled the store and parking lot where the shooting started. >> there was people -- people were running from inside the mall. they were screaming to get out. >> i told my mother, there are gunshots. we need to go. she just froze and did not move. i told her, let's move. get down. get down. >> reporter: shoppers took cover. businesses went on lockdown and first responders rushed to locate an active shooter. within hours, el paso police spokesman robert gomez says an arrest had been made. the suspect lived 600 miles away in the town of allen, texas, a sprawling suburb north of dallas. the gunman was arrested without incident just a few blocks from the walmart store. federal sources tell cnn, the shooter left an onlineman fess toe filled with anti-immigrant views and a hate of hispanics. >> we have a manifesto that indicates to some degree it has a nexus to a hate crime t. the fbi will look into that. we are looking at capital murder charges for this individual. >> reporter: some families are still desperately awaiting news of their loved ones, like the family of 86-year-old angie. she was talking to a relative four minutes before the shooting erupted. her family hasn't heard from her since. >> my brother spoke with her at 1 10:31. she was in the checkout line. that was the last we heard. >> reporter: hours after the attack, political leaders tried to grasp the magnitude of the loss. >> 20 families that woke up whole this morning with their loved ones. when the sun sets tonight here in el paso, they will go to bed without them. >> reporter: on sunday, the district attorney announced the gunman will face the most severe punishment. >> the state charge is capital murder. so he is eligible for the death penalty. we will seek the death penalty. >> we are treating it as a domestic terrorism case. we will do what we do to terrorists in this country, deliver swift and certain justice. >> talk to me about the scene there now and what's expected tonight across the city. >> reporter: anderson, across the city, a number of vigils will be held tonight. we are at one of them, which is actually really considering what has happened here this weekend really quaint and beautiful scene here. we hear this is a sports complex and we have been hearing the sounds of little legal basebaagl games, laughter and smiles. in the next couple of hours, there will be a vigil here with young people celebrating and trying to offer comfort to the victims and families that have been so tragically hurt in this attack. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. 13 hours after the el paso shooting, it happened in dayton, ohio. everything happened fast there. 24 seconds, that's how long it took police to arrive on the scene of the mass shooting. 24 seconds, which is more than you could ask when it comes to police response. it doesn't get much faster than that. more than you could ask of any police force. in that short space of time, 24 seconds, the gunman was able to fire enough shots to kill nine people and wound many more. details now from cnn's ryan young. >> reporter: a flurry of shots show the deadly moments the gunman opened fire in downtown dayton, ohio. police say the gunman parked his car and walked through dayton's neighborhood known for night life and began firing shots just after 1:00 a.m. >> what the [ bleep ]? railro >> shots fired! >> where are you at? >> reporter: police routinely patrol this area on saturday night. they were able to respond in seconds. >> a suspect opened fire along the oregon district. he was waring be in wearing bod used a high capacity magazine. he had additional magazines. >> the threat was neutralized in approximately 30 seconds of the suspect firing his first shot. >> dispatch, we got shots fired. multiple people down. need multiple medics. >> reporter: two women were out with girlfriends. >> people started running, pushing out the back door. >> her friend remembers chatting with a woman about their outfits. >> she was on the concrete dead outside of the club that we was at. >> reporter: robert woodruff was standing several feet away. >> i thought i was about to die. he was standing over the top. he started shooting at the guy. he saved everybody out here. >> reporter: despite the quick response, at least nine were killed, and more than a dozen injured. one killed was the shooter's own 22-year-old sister. >> the officers involved in ending this tragedy, their professionalism, their quickness, their amazing courage and their response undoubtedly saved many, many, many lives. we will never know how many lives were saved. the assailant was obviously very, very close to being able to kill dozens and dozens more people. >> reporter: ryan young, dayton, ohio. >> this man ran out back where many of the people inside, some had been trampled, were rushing out the back. this is the video he took of the moments. >> [ bleep ]. [ screaming ] somebody help! [ crying ] >> what the [ bleep ]. >> according to anthony, that was the scene when people exited. the shooting took place in the front of the bar. i spoke to anthony reynolds who said he saw the shooter earlier that evening. i understand you left just after 1:00 a.m., which was just seconds before the shooter opened fire. can you tell me where you were and when did you realize something awful was happening? >> i was leaving at 1:05 a.m. that's the exact time. i had to look at my phone. i was with a family member, my cousin. as we was walking out the door, i remembered telling the security guard at the door -- he is there every weekend. i visit quite frequently. i remember telling him, you guys are having a heck of a party in there. we laughed about that. i could see that it was packed with people trying to get in. the club doesn't close 2:00 to 2:30 a.m. once i walked past that line, once i get maybe towards the end of the line, i'm ten to 15 feet away from the door, you hear the first shot. you not really understanding it's a shot because it's not a familiar sound down there. we looking around to see what's going on. then you hear the second shot. when you hear the second shot, you realize somebody is shooting. you still didn't understand what's going on. then i start hearing rapid fire. just repetitive shooting. it sounded like big guns. i'm instantly -- i'm looking for my family member. when i looked and realized he wasn't on the side or in front of me, i knew he was behind me. i turned around. come on, man, they're shooting. i'm sorry. as i was turning around is when i was actually able to see the guy shooting. when i seen those people in the lines bodies start falling, i knew people was getting hit. i kind of high tailed it out of there. >> you said you saw the shooter. >> he was a white man. he had on black. he had a long rifle-style gun. and he had a mask that covered the lower half of his face. you could still see the top vision of his face. >> as you said, it's one thing -- we think of what we would do in a situation like this. you never really know what you are going to do until you are in a situation like this. you can't really imagine the adrenaline, the fear, all of things, the chaos. you started videotaping at some point. can you just tell us -- we're going to show the video. can you tell us where -- what are we looking at? this is the scene right outside the club. >> right. what you are seeing are people that are trying to get out of the back. the shooter is in the front. once we traveled around -- i was on front strip. so once i traveled around, i was able to see the back of the club. those are people who are just falling out of the club, trying to -- security guards are doing their best to get people out. you see them pulling people. people are helping people. there's more footage out there. you can see people giving victims cpr. you know what i'm saying? chest compressions and everything. people were trying to help. >> had you left the club a minute later, you could have been in the middle of that. >> 30 seconds. i'm not going to give myself a minute. 30 seconds. that's why i said when i was coming out of the club, me and my cousin, we were having that conversation. he said, we should have stayed until 1:30 because we were having such a good time. we seen it was so many people down there. everybody seemed to be having a good time. we wished we could have stayed. we had work. he had a 4:00 in time and i had a 6:00 a.m. in time i had to be in work. we were leaving at that time for that reason. >> the security guard you talked to on the way out, who you said it was a good party inside, did that person -- are they okay, do you know? >> as far as what we understand, all security were okay. it's a lot of stories going around. i hope everybody is okay. seeing that firsthand it got me shaken up. last night, i was kind of just in shock. i was talking to a lot of reporters to give them the real story so we wouldn't get sound bites or see wrong stories. i want people to understand the truth. this is serious. i see a lot of times when i see people say these things are hoax or people think these things are fake, because you not going through it, these things are real. i got a 12-year-old daughter. i got a 10-year-old daughter. i got a fiancee. i'm happy i was able to make it home. i sat in my driveway until 6:00 a.m. just praising that i was able to make it home. just feeling so sad that so many people wasn't able to make it home. understand that people in my community, that we grew up with, are going to be devastated and their lives are changed. my life changed because even today as i'm sitting out here, i'm thinking, you know what i'm saying, any time somebody could come through and take my life into their hands. you know what i'm saying? >> all those folks in the hospital still with some of those wounds are life changing, no doubt. what do you think needs to change? you see this stuff on television. it happens way too often. >> we need to change -- honestly, what i think needs to change is we hear a lot of talking points. we hear a lot of arguments and talk about dialogue. we need action. we need action. we have been going through this too long. they're getting worse. we got two shootings in 24 hours, three in one week. we as a country have to find a way to answer this. letting it go on and chalking it up to mental disability or chalking it up to we didn't catch that person, why didn't we? why was he a gun own sner er? we got stories of him threatening to shoot up his school as a youth. that's not on the radar. why not? that man lived no more than 30 miles up the highway and he planned that. he came here to hurt people. >> anthony, i appreciate you talking to us. i'm glad you are okay. obviously, i know you are thinking about all those who are not okay and who will never be okay again. i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you, sir. more on the racist manifesto that authorities believe is linked to the el paso gunman. look at how white nationalism plays into the fabric of what has been taking place day by day leading up to the latest mass shooting in texas. let's do it. 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>> it's >> reporter: it's a forum online. there are sections that are racist. they are virulently violent. they encourage violence. what is shocking when you go on these sites, as you sort of go down the rabbit hole and are talking, as soon as something like this happens, and the suspected shooter is white and their target is black or brown people, they light up with glee. they are often praising the suspected shooter. they are often calling that shooter a saint. there's this sense that this person is doing right by the white race. there are very few people on there saying that he shouldn't be doing this. more saying that this is what needs to be done if, for example, politicians can't keep the brown folks out, the latin americans out, the black folks out, then this is a good alternative. you see memes as well. i want to let you listen to pov has been delving into this for years. >> these image boards are a reminder of what an unfiltered white supremacist movement looks like. it shows you the real character of these communities and what their goals are. it's no accident that you see repeatedly people come to the sites to post their manifestos in the moments before they go out to commit an atrocity. >> reporter: he was describing what it's like to look at some of the virulent racism that's on this site. we should mention, this is the third person who has posted on this site who links themself to white nationalism, who is suspected of a mass shooting, the third person in a year's time. this is a place where racists go. this is a racist heaven, if you will. we did talk to the founder of this site who has left the site saying he believes -- the guy who created the site believes it should be shut down at least for now. >> thank you very much. someone who knows about white nationalism, his father popularized the territory is derek black. he renounced that in 2013. he has been writing about it and talking about it since. thanks for being with us. there's a lot of unknowns at this point. if this so-called manifesto or the ramblings is linked to the shooter, it's clear it's white supremacist ideology. >> very much so. he directly references the new zealand shooter's manifesto and the language in it is part of the longtime talking points that are used in the white nationalism most over decades. it's an organized movement. an ideology that's coherent and has grown over the years, especially online, and continues to inspire mass violence like this. >> it is interesting that a lot of these people look to other shooters, past shooters, for inspiration in the way school shooters look to the columbine shooters as inspiration. they want to -- it's one of the reasons we don't use their names because they want the kind of fame or martyrdom that others like to claim. >> i think it's fascinating and it's something i have not been able to understand that there are white swaths of the white national mocvement, like what i came out of, and they are trying to convince people their talking points are not so bad and hateful. every single time an attack like this happens and over the years they would always happen, the first thing was to go and see whether they were a member of my dad's website or to see whether they were affiliated with us. then to go out and condemn violence and say that illegal activity was banned. therefore, the fact that these shooters were inspired by everything that they were promoting, that we were promoting, that they had no culpability for inspiring these acts. one after another after another. and that they could continue to promote this sort of mainstream softer form of white supremacy and say that they were not immrimpl implicated in the violence. it was as if the talking points themselves that condemns swaths of america, immigrants and communities of color, as if that wasn't implicitly violent. that continues. that's how many of the communities are going to react. >> the president said there's -- hate has no place in this country. i'm wondering when you hear some of the rhetoric he has used, whether he acknowledges it or not, among white nationalists, among white supremacists, there has been positive reaction to some of the things he said. the president said he disavows any form of hatred or white supremacy. do you believe there's a connection? >> i think the rhetoric that the president uses mimics white nationalist talking points frequently. what white nationalists are trying to do when they are looking for recruits or convince them they have a following and they are not so bad, those things are the same sort of sentiments that the president campaigned on and says from the white house today, that communities of color are more dangerous, which is untrue, that immigrants are committing crimes and are replacing us and are hurting america. these sortisolating, attacking, offensive language, there are consequences so saying things like this. there are consequences to trying to tap into that hateful passion that it's disingenuous to say that a movement that is based on that, whether it's as mainstream as some forms of conservatism or the white nationalist movement, these outreaches that tap into some of the oldest forms of white supremacy in america are going to have consequences. words have consequences. >> dirk black, it's interesting to talk to you. i appreciate your time. >> thanks for having me on. >> stay with us. more ahead on this special edition of 360. the aunt and uncle of the mom who lost her life. her life was taken from her. she was murdered. she saved the life of her 2-month-old son. les. at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2019 rx 350 for $389 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month payment. experience amazing. when you start with a better that's no way to treat a dog... ...you can do no wrong. where did you learn that? 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why would they do that? >> mitch mcconnell takes almost perverse pride in calling himself the grim reaper. but there's nothing humorous about the pain and shock that these communities are enduring, which i know, having lived through sandy hook and it's aftermath. i think my republican colleagues at least some of them, are ready to consider action. toomey and graham and senator scott in saying he would come back. all republicans. i think that mitch mcconnell will be under increasing pressure. is it likely? probably not but possible, yes. >> look, we all know how many of these we have seen and how many families have been destroyed by this. if it didn't happen after sandy hook, where children were just slaughtered, is it any more likely that there would be real change after this? >> absolutely, anderson. the politics of this issue has changed fundamentally. we have created a movement. all of the grass-roots groups, moms demand action, sandy hook promise, new town action alliance, brady, have made a key difference. in the last election, gun violence prevention was on the ballot. it won. look at the presidential candidates this year. can you recall a time when all of the major presidential candidates on the democratic side were advocating for gun violence prevention? most importantly, the vice-like grip of the nra and gun lobby on congress is breaking. the nra is imploding. the gun lobby no longer has that kind of dominance that it had before. >> beto o'rourke from el paso, democratic candidate, he has said the presidential rhetoric is partially to blame for this. i'm paraphrasing. do you believe that? >> the president unquestionably has aligned himself in his language with white nationalists and white supremacists. he denounced the latino immigrants coming into this country as thugs and animals. he has condemned it as an invasion, much the same language that reportedly was used in this manifesto that the killer in el paso posted. >> there were certainly white supremacists and white nationalist violence before donald trump became president. >> but he has used his platform as a means to enable and encourage a lot of that side of public discourse. and he bears the responsibility. the shooter is the one who should be held most culpable. the shooters are the ones who kill people. but there are enablers. they should bear a responsibility as well. >> i want to play something that kevin mccartney said about this today. >> you want to see from these individuals what they wrote and others. this may be a place that we could find ahead of time. there may be a place of what's being written can be changed, could be an indication that an individual needs help that we can stop. the idea of these video games, they dehuman iize individuals, felt that's a problem for future generations. >> is video games the problem? it seems like that was an argument made a long time ago and certainly it may be in the mix with disturbed individuals. it seems interesting he is focusing on video games. >> there has been a rise in hate crimes over the last three crimes. the director of the fbi cited in his testimony to congress last week. you can attribute it to video games. you can blame a lot of different sources. there's no question that public rhetoric stokes hatred and racism. some of that rhetoric has come from the president himself. he has a responsibility here. the single most important step that can be done to prevent this kind of mass shooting or the individual killings that happen, whether domestic violence or suicide, is to take guns away from dangerous people. people who are dangerous to themselves or others. that's why i retweeted senator graham's tweet just yesterday calling for federal action. he and i have been working on a bill last session. i'm hopeful he will continue with this kind of leadership in the coming session as chairman of the judiciary committee. because taking guns away from people who are dangerous to themselves or others, as 16 states have stat oooutes that ds one of the most single most important steps that we can take. >> appreciate your time. thank you very much. a quick programming note. tomorrow night, my interview with vice-president joe biden. that's 360 at 8:00 p.m. eastern. the student killed in parkland. their perspective when we come back. let's be honest, you need insurance. but it's not really something you want to buy. it's not sexy... oh delicious. or delicious... or fun. ♪ but since you need both car and home insurance, why not bundle them with esurance and save up to 10%. which you can spend on things you really want to buy, like ah well i don't know what you'd wanna buy cause i'm just a guy on your tv. esurance. it's surprisingly painless. we're going all in thion strawberries.ra, at their reddest, ripest, they make everything better. like our strawberry poppyseed salad and new strawberry summer caprese salad. order online for delivery. panera. food as it should be (drum roll) and the record for longest-lasting aa battery goes to... (cymbal crash) energizer ultimate lithium. guinness world records title holder for longest-lasting aa battery. the parents of a student killed in parkland border happened to be across the border from el paso when the killings took place. they were there to unveil a memorial to the parkland shootings this weekend. their son was killed at stoneman douglas high school. i spoke with them just before air time. when you first heard what had happened in el paso, i'm wondering what went through your mind. i have talked to families who have lost children in mass shootings before. they have told me that every time it happens somewhere else, it just brings it all back. >> it hurt me the most. it's like the situation is keep going and going on. really us as parents, we have been trying our best to keep the voice out there and make a difference. still these tragedies are going on. very awful. >> manuel, you had planned to be in el paso today in part to spread the message about gun violence. is that right? >> correct. let me remind you that today's joaquin's birthday. that was the main reason why we were planning to be here. >> how old would joaquin have been today? >> 19 years old. >> can you just tell us a little bit about joaquin, especially on his birthday? what was he like? >> joaquin was a very kind kid. he was always caring about others. he has a very special relationship with little kids. that's why when we were invited to come here to el paso to help, we decided that it was a very good way to honor his birthday. that's why we are here. while we are doing is representing joaquin here because physically, he is not with us. but mentally and emotionally, he is always with us. >> what kind of advice would both of you give to the families whose lives tonight have now been forever changed? it's a particular kind of grief, the grief of somebody who has been through and survived -- who lost a loved one in a massed shooting. what do you tell people tonight who are going -- suddenly going through that grief now? >> i think that we need to react in an unusual way. i can tell you, anderson, what's going to happen here in the next ten days. someone will send white crosses. someone is going to send balloons and teddy bears and stones with beautiful sayings and readings. that's going to happen for the next ten days. you will see vigils. that's what happened. this is becoming a tradition. more than a tradition, we have a template for these situations. my only advice to these families is to raise your voices. this is not something that we should forget and move on with our lives. it's not. we need to start doing something. my son needs a voice. here we are. we are still joaquin's parents. we will be joaquin's parents until the last day that we are here. those people that lost loved ones yesterday in ohio, here in el paso, need to become the voice of their loved ones. that's my advice. >> patricia? >> well, i'm also inviting every single one to make a call to action. because this is an epidemic that keep going and going on. this is something that we all of us have to take care about it. this is something that you don't have to say, okay, who is next. how come? we cannot admit that, we cannot accept that. my call to every single one who is watching us today is to take action on what is have to be done. we have to finish this situation. we have to raise our voices. we have to go and vote. we have to be involved. this is the only way we can make a difference. >> patricia and manuel, i appreciate talking to you and thank you for sharing a little bit of joaquin with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> take care. a great deal to get to. the latest on the shootings in el paso and dayton. i will speak to the mayors of both cities. use as much as you want, when you want. and if you like netflix, it's included on us. plus no surprises on your bill. taxes and fees are included. and now for a limited time, with each new line, get one of our latest smartphones included. that's right, only $40/line for four lines and smartphones are included for the whole family. dexperience thrillingn operformance.o now at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. get 0.9% apr for 60 months on all 2019 models. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. can't imagine doing it any other way. this is caitlin dickerson from the new york times. this isn't the only case. very little documentation. lo que yo quiero estar con mi hijo. i know that's not true. and the shelters really don't know what to do with them. i just got another person at d.h.s. to confirm this. i have this number. we're going to publish the story. i have this number. when you start with a better that's no way to treat a dog... ...you can do no wrong. where did you learn that? 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