The days top stories from around the world, from politics and money, to sports and pop culture. On matters that have nothing to do with the campaign. I think that even mr. Manafort as i read it had requested that there be no mention of his brief tenure at the Trump Campaign several years ago. This has nothing to do with collusion, russia, nothing to come with the Trump Campaign. Reporter the case centers around his past lobbying work for the pro Putin Ukranian government for which prosecutors say he received 60 million. The government alleges manafort hid millions and failed to pay taxes while still spending the money on real estate and luxury purchases, including homes in manhattan, virginia and the hamptons, expensive suits, and baseball tickets. And prosecutors will present hundreds of emails, photos and financial records to prove it. Prosecutors say manafort also lied to banks about his income to secure more than 20 million in loans. And this trial now underway, it is expected to last about three weeks. And this isnt the only trial that paul than fort famanafort. He is charged with seven counts in washington, d. C. , that trial set to start in september. And jake, until then, it looks like Paul Manafort will remain behind bars. Just today a d. C. Appeals court rejected his request to overturn the lower courts decision that sent him to jail for alleged tampering. Jessica, thanks. Lets talk about this with my experts. Kaitlan collins, the white house even if this doesnt relate to anything having to do with the white house, which it doesnt, embarrassing. This is the president s former Campaign Chairman. And they have been playing the manafort who game for a few months now leading up to this case because they wanted to put as much distance between themselves, the Trump Campaign and Paul Manafort as possible. One of their recent responses was we cant comment on nonwhite house employees. Which of course Paul Manafort was the Campaign Chairman for President Trump for several months. But also really with the glaring aspect of all of this, this trial has nothing to do with
more about that interesting trump tower meeting that he was part of. And other interesting you were part of it too . You were chuckling. I think the 305 years in prison is enough leverage to get him to talk. Doesnt have to be anything else. But if he really faces that prospect. Why did not he take the deal . Because he thinks he is nts in Perha Innocen innocent perhaps. But it is easy to get prosecutions in this case. Do you think he is counting on therebeing a pardon coming his way . I think he shouldnt count on anything. He needs to mount a robust defense. I saw the 35 witnesses including his former partner rick gates will testify against him. If you looked at the indictment, it is receipretty detailed and of nittygritty, changing numbers on Bank Statements and things that are really kind of in the weeds that have nothing to do with the campaign. Ofties. I was there when Paul Manafort was there. He was a brilliant gatherer of pretty important role. And mayor giuliani said the same thing about cohen, so we should be very suspicious when he says didnt know anything and up comes the tapes. The president has some type of relationship with manafort for about 30 years. And even though what he is being tried for right now has nothing to do directly with the president and russia, russia is still in there, it is about business for russian on oligarchs which we know that the president is infatuated with russia. So i definitely find it hard to believe that the president didnt somehow try to use Plan Fortplan manaforts he only dealt w . Who was at that meeting . [ everybody talking at once ] in june of 2016, the campaign was far, far more concerned with ted cruz and governor kasich. He was there march to august. So maybe he was able to take a half hour to heat with those russians. You were talking about the events that happened while than fort was on the campaign from march until august. Take a listen to president tr p trump. Plmanafort has nothing to do with our campaign. He worked for me for a very short period of time. He worked for bob dole, john mccain, his firm did. He worked for me, what, 49 days or something. Very short period of time. But it was more than 49 days. But a significant period of tile. From march to august, 2016, during this time line, if those people who are looking at the russia investigation, this is when George Papadopoulous ran his mouth for an australian and to say that the campaign was entrepreneurial and run in a very entrepreneurial fashion with not a lot of direction from the top would be an overstatement. The fact is though, what if this is it, what if this is the only case that really gets anybody . You have the Russian MilitaryIntelligence Officers arent going to come to the United States and be tried. What if it is just manafort and financial crimes and ultimately that is it for the Mueller Investigation when it comes to anything having to do with the Trump Campaign . I mean certainly if that is from a political end in terms of what would the democrats do, you know, the democrats definitely have to run on something bigger than just russia, russia, russia. You will find lots of democrats across the spectrum who are really pushing for the democrats to have a stronger message than russia. But where there is smoke, there is fire. Might not be with Plan Fomanafo might be somebody either. Take down papadopoulous. Everyone stick around. Opening statements just wrapped. The first witness is about to take the stand. Well take you inside the
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she had a toeic lo icstoic look face. She didnt look up as the prosecutors were describing the 21,000 watch he was buying. So it is quite a different Paul Manafort than we used to see a few months ago when he would show up with protesters around outside the d. C. Court and wearing those fine suits. Evan perez, thanks so much. I want to bring in the u. S. Southern District Attorney for new york before he was fired. Opening statements, calling him a shrewd layer, outlining some over the top rich guy stuff. The defense saying The Oligarchs insisted on paying him through these secret accounts. Is this what you expected . What you expect in a case like this where the evidence seems strong, a lot of Documentary Evidence that i think is pretty specific, hard to get past the idea that he
didnt, you know, claim income that he clearly got, that he didnt recite in Tax Return Information that you are supposed to, that he had an interest in foreign bank accounts. So the defense can be expected in cases like this to blame other people. They will claim rick gates, The Oligarchs, also probably going to blame the lack of awareness or understanding that he was supposed for fill out these documents in a particular way and make certain filings with the irs. So i havent seen anything so far and just gotten it on social media in the few minutes before appearing here. It is sort of par for the course. Youve heard Trump Supporters say look, man forth, this is the big fish, none of the charges are related to conspiracy with russia, so mueller must have nothing on that issue. What would your response be . We dont know what mueller has. These cases have proceeded ein stages. So you will have a charge against somebody one day, a superseding indictment the next month or a couple months later. It may be the case that there is nothing else that the mueller
team has against Paul Manafort, so certainly we havent seen it so far. And i understand that the judge in this case has made it clear that there should be no references to the Trump Campaign and no references to russia at also as not to taint the are jurys thinking. So we dont know. I think there are other shoes to drop that could potentially happen in the future. This is not the only trial that Paul Manafort has to face. He has another one in the district of columbia coming up in a few weeks. It is possible that the multlel team has more and equally possible that they dont. Would you expect manafort to blame this on his former number two rick gates . Were getting word that that might be part of the defense strategy, blaming this on gates. Yeah, i mean typically when you have a cooperating witness who like rick gates in this case was part of the scheme, was charged in the original criminal document, criminal charge, that is the obvious person who you blame because you want to divert
blame from yourself. So it is sort of Defense Argument 101. And in this particular case, the uphill battle, i dont know how uphill it is, for the government is that one of the particular crimes to which gates has pled guilty is lying to the fbi. And not just lying to the fbi, but lying to the fbi in the course of an interview in the course of a Promeeting In which was trying to convince the fbi specifically that he was being truthful to try to get a deal. So the argument that you see time and time again in court, sometimes it works, most of the time it doesnt, if you have good corroborating evidence of the testimony of this previously lying witness, sometimes it works. But this is a guy who lied before, he lied to the faces of the fbi, why should you believe him now. So why not use him as a scapegoat to escape criminal liability for yourself. What do you make of mueller bringing this trial now . Do you think it is part of a larger strategy . Obviously just a few weeks ago the grand jury returned indictments against 12 members of Russia Military intelligence which obviously at least as far
as i know has nothing to do with this case which is the first major case. Mueller brought the case i think when you have enough evidence to prove it and to get a grand jury to go along with the charges and accept the indictment. And then the trial schedule was set by the particular judge in both the d. C. Case and the virginia case. I dont think contrary to what some say that there is a Micro Managing Strategy about timing of particular charges. Obviously you take that into account. Im sure that the Special Counsel will take into account as others have suggested the election calendar and not do anything dramatic in the days and weeks leading up to the election. But i dont see any overarching tactical issue here in the timing of this case. Plmanafort has had multiple chances to make a deal and a lot of people are surprised he didnt. How do you interpret the fact that he has not . This is the age old question in all criminal cases. Some people flip, why some
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