The carnage may not be over. Is Law Enforcement in the cross hairs. Also in national startling details in that quadruple murder in washington, d. C. But are police any closer to catching day this guy caught on tape. Were going to begin with the world lead. An alarm is sounded today by president obamas Top National Security adviser. In an interview today, dr. Susan rice left no doubt that the war with isis will not be quick. In is going to be a long slog. A long slog. Thats virtually the same phrase that Donald Rumsfeld applied in 2003. In a memo he wrote it will. A long hard slog. While the Obama Administration says this will be a long slog the white house said today that the concern over losing ramadi is overblown. Are we going to light or hair on fire every time that there is a setback in the campaign against isil . I want to get right to cnns barbara starr. Shes at the pentagon. Barbara, the pentagons line the past two days is this is just a setback. Is anyone at the pentagon conceding that the fall of ramadi is more serious than that . You know, jake at this point, the washington the pentagon talking point setback is really holding firm. I think the issue is the military reality on the ground may be very different. Tens of thousands of iraqis on the run, fleeing ramadi from isiss brutal takeover. Now many sick and stranded in the desert. Hundreds may have already been killed. One of the most horrific aspects of this is as the isis fighters went through the town they massacred children wives of the townspeople. Less than 70 miles from baghdad, ramadi extends isiss influence. To lose this city to isis the new incarnation of al qaeda and iraq is a huge blow and its one that we should not sugar coat and say it doesnt matter because it does matter and it matters a great deal. Some iraqi troops had on the air lifted out of the city. Police are abandoned positions one area of the other. In the end, there was no help from the Central Government in baghdad. The iraqi army didnt have a good sense of what was happening in the city. Clearly the Islamic State had been making inroads over the preceding months and ramadi was a foundation rotting from within. Shia malicious ya are gathering. Sunni troops asking for arms. U. S. Air strikes will continue. Cnn learned u. S. Military commanders have for now ruled out special forces on the ground to help pick out targets inside ramadi. But after the successful raid in syria that killed an isis leader and captured his wife more Ground Missions could happen as the u. S. Targets leaders who have specific intelligence. They ran hostage operations of the situation faced by Kayla Mueller along with two f 0 our journalists there, sof cloft and foley. If fact they were killed and the commander in isis presumably had a hand in it since he ran the hostage operations with another reason why eliminating him from the battlefield is important. No word yet on what intelligence they found if any about those american hostages. All right. Thank you so much. Just a few minutes ago i spoke about the fight against isis with former secretary of defense robert gates who served under president s george w. Bush and barack obama from 2006 to 2011. His best selling book duty, memories of a secretary at war is now out in paper back. Mr. Secretary, thanks for being here. Very enjoyable book. Pi want to get some answers to question i have about it. The first 0 of course since so much of the book is about iraq the pentagon and the Obama Administration are suggesting that the loss of ramadi is not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Do you agree with that or do you think thats spin . I think that its i think it is a serious loss because it followed fallujah it follows mosul. It suggests that in the anbar area and in the sunni area that isis is still able to assemble forces and able to carry out offensive operations. I think that i think it has a political and a symbolic impact as much as a military impact. A lot of american blood was shed over ramadi. And to have it in the hands of isis is hard to characterize as other than a major setback, i think. House Speaker John Boehner talked about the war on isis today. Id like to get your reaction. Lets play that segment. With new gains made by isil in ramadi we know that hope is not a strategy. The president s plan isnt working. Its time for him to come up with a real overarching strategy to defeat the ongoing terrorist threat. Do you agree with that . Do you think the Obama Administration has a working real credible strategy against isis in. First, i think the president was right to insist on a change in the iraqi government. Getting rid of Prime Minister malky before we did anything. Second i think hes right when it comes to boots on the ground they almost entirely have to be arab or kurd. But i think that they do need to at least revisit the rules of engagement for our troops. For the troops that we have there. I think that we need american guard air controllers and spotters for the aircraft attacks. I think we need more flexibility for the use of special forces. And i think we need to have embedded american trainers with the Iraqi Security forces the anbar tribes and with the kurds down to at least the battalion level so we can help them be more successful. How many troops how many u. S. Troops should be in iraq right now, do you think . Its about 3,000 right now i think. A lot of people say well, this all means reinvading iraq. I think thats nonsense. Nobody is talking about a huge number of troops. I would have to defer to the military on the exact numbers. But the kinds of roles that ive been describing, i think wouldyou could do largely with the number of troops that are already there. Perhaps a different mix of troops and again with different rules of engagement. Theres been a lot of talk in republican president ial circumstances of knowing then what you know now about wmd, would the u. S. Should the u. S. Have invaded iraq to e begin with. Let me ask you a question about a recent decision. Knowing then what we know now about isis in iraq was it a mistake for president obama not to have pushed harder to get u. S. Troops in iraq . I think even had there been no isis that it would have been far better for us to maintain some presence some troop presence in iraq for a much longer period of time. Our presence there gave us access and gave us influence. We were able to constrained malkys worst instincts. We were able to ensure that the leadership of the Iraqi Security services was based on competence and merit. And once we left all of the generals that we had trained and that we had helped select were all fired and replaced by a bunch of political hacks. One of the reasons that the Iraqi Security forces are so hapless is so many of their officers were political appointees with no skill. Even had there been no isis a longer term presence by u. S. Forces i think, was necessary. You write in the book about the only major decision with which you disagreed with then secretary of state Hillary Clinton with whom you had a strong working relationship. You said whether or not the u. S. Should intervene militarily in libya. Looking back on it you feel comfortable in your decision . I mean the again side in benghazi was prevented and yet you look at whats going on in libya, its hard to argue that the Obama Administration had a plan for yards. The irony is some of those who are the most critical of president bush not not having a plan in iraq after Saddam Hussein was ousted didnt have a plan for what to do in libya africa da fi was after gaddafi was ousted. I believe if you look at libya today, that my opposition to our intervening there was the right thing to have done. I think particularly once we prevented the humanitarian slaughter that we all worried about in benghazi. But once we prevented that and we could for a much smaller cost have sustained that protection of the eastern part of the country, i think going in throwing out gaddafi was a mistake. All right. Former secretary of defense, robert gates. The book is duty, memoirs of a secretary at war. Its a great read. National news police now preparing for more bloodshed in what ko taction saying these biker gangs like participating in war. This as police admit some of the bikers held on 1 million bond were mistakenly released. That story next. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. 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Were getting new information about that bloody biker shootout with each other and police that left nine people dead in waco a scene that was littered with bats club as pools of blood. And when it was over, 170 biker members were under arrest. Its an endless string of mug shots, each facing 1 million bail. Nick valencia is live for us in texas. Police still going through all of the evidence there . Reporter thats right. And new information just in to cnn within the last hour saying theyre looking for three men who were originally arrested and detained in a 50,000 bond mistakenly released. These men are dangerous. They want to be brought back into custody according to police under the Million Dollar bond. Were learning more about the individuals involved in the coyotes tick scene on sunday. Police telling me that a majority of those arrested and killed were from outside the waco area. Many bike gang members came here for this Coalition Meeting that police knew was going to take place. Chaos began when a gang showed up. Someone got their foot run over. There was another squir mish going on inside 2009 peeks at the time. And that gun fire was exchanged between the biker gangs and the police. 9 people dead, 18 injured. 170 are in police custody. They were worried and around about threats. Those threats have toned down 0 enthey dont believe more biker gang members are coming to the area as originally believed. Joining any mow, former president of the hells angels. Youre basically the god father of the minnesota hells angels. How much is violence and criminality part of the biker culture versus comradeamaraderie and adventure . It goes hand in hand. There is a lot of criminal activity in the biker culture. I could use for example any chapter of hels angemsls up here. I was arrested in 2003 for cocaine chrj and then it led to a 21count indictment for methamphetamine distribution. I eventually pled guilty to methamphetamine charges and was sentenced to 17 1 2 years in federal prison. It appears that the battle fight, shootout in waco came down to a turf battle and respect and might have escalated because of a patch on a jacket. You organized the expansion of the minnesota hells angels. Tell us about these turf wars. Is this about Drug Distribution areas . Is this just about who gets to bike where . Whats the fight over . The fight is over territory, jake. Its not about drugs. Of course drugs is second hand. Its about that patch. And who controls that area. Its the same thing what happened in minnesota when i orchestrated the move in illinois. The other club over there was the outlaws and violence followed after that after i expanded into illinois. There was retaliation with my truck being blown up. C4, several attempts on my life. Plus the chicago clubhouse being blown up. Its all over that bottom rocker. And thats what it almosts to who is controlling the area. And we you get four or five clubs like that together at one venue, theres going to be clubs there that dont like the other club. And it could be because some other big club is courting them to join their club. And when youre lets say, texas, and youre wearing the rocker the ban detos have been there forever. They might have felt a threat that this club might join a bigger club. 170 alleged biker gang members now under arrest and the investigation is not close to being over Law Enforcement says. You broke the code, so to speak and you tefds against fellow angels when faced with a life sentence. How difficult was that decision for you . That was the hardest thing i ever did but its the best thing i ever did. I havent looked back since that day. My life has completely turned around since then. Do you think that some of these guys in jail right now, the 170, do you think some of them will ultimately flip . I dont know what theyll do jake. If they take a good look at what their culture is about, they probably better take a second look at what theyre doing. Theres a fear and concern among Law Enforcement right now that some of these people who are free, who are members of the biker gang including the three who mistakenly got out on the 50,000 bond before it was up to a million, that they might be seeking retaliation against police. Is that should the Law Enforcement be concerned about that . It seems to me like if i were a member of a bike are gang i wouldnt go picking a fight with the police. Thats a good way to guarantee my extinction. That is absolutely true. The way i run things up here in minnesota was low key. You dont draw attention to yourself. Thats the way i tried to keep it. And i dont see the clubs ever retaliating against the police officers. I mean although you know, it could happen. Im not saying it cant. I dont think there will be any retaliation there in waco against Law Enforcement at all. I think its against the two clubs that are involved and i dont think it will be in waco. Unfortunately it will go on though. Pat matter former president of the hells angels. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Coming up its been a month since shes taken questions directly from reporters. But today, Hillary Clinton finally faced the media. How did she respond when asked about her familys wealth and the tens of millions of dollars shes made from speeches. An estimated 3 million kwort of jewels and cash stolen by brazen thieves. Now police say theyve arrested nine suspects including a man who is pushing 80. I have type 2 diabetes. I started with pills. And now i take a longacting insulin at night. I take mine in the morning. I was trying to eat right, stay active. But i wasnt reaching my a1c goal anymore. Man my doctor says diabetes changes over time. 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