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CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper August 7, 2014

As many as 40,000 iraqis into the mountains and took over the largest christian city less than three hours after president company obama declared it stable. With Ukrainian Forces making gains against prorussian rebels, nato warns russia has 20,000 troops perched on the border. With Vladimir Putin order an invasion under is the guise of peace keep. Welcome to the lead. Im jake tapper live in jerusalem. At this hour, president obama has called a meeting of senior advisors as a u. S. Official tells cnn that the white house is considering air strikes on the islamic militants who have overrun iraq. Were going to get into all of that, but first, the reason were coming to you live from jerusalem today, breaking news now about that 72hour ceasefire that went into effect tuesday and only has nine hours left in it. Now hamass military wing told its negotiators in egypt to reject any extension of the truce unless the demands are met. The last three days has been mercifully quiet. They say unless the movement of palestinians come to an end, hamas fighters are warning that quiet could be shattered in eight hours and change. Israel wants hamas to disarm. It has indicated it would be willing to he can tend the trugs uncan i will. Hamas is the militant group that controls gaza labeled a terrorist organization by the u. S. Government. In egypt, israeli representatives are meeting with palestinian negotiators through intermediary egypt, not just from hamas but from the Palestine Liberation Organization and other factions, as well. Not direct negotiations but through egypt. Lets bring in mark regev, spokesman for the Israeli Government. I want to get your reaction to the news that the brigade said unless the demands are met, the ceasefire is over israel wont break the ceasefire. Were interested in the ceasefire continues. Thats important for the piece and quiet for the people of israel and gaza. Hamas is the wildcard. We know they could restart hostilities. If they do so, it it will be exposed before the whole world who hamas is. They dont have any qualms about restarting a whole set of blood shed, a whole vi and theres serves no ones interests except their extremist agenda. Is it possible this is a negotiating ploy that theyll say this till 7 59 and say never mind, well agree to the ceasefire . Unfortunately, we have to take these threats very, very seriously and be prepared to act if they, in fact, do break the ceasefire and start shooting vollies of rockets at israeli cities again. Weve in the past accepted all sorts of ceasefires only 0 see hamas shoot their rockets at israel. If that happens again tomorrow, we will respond, but it will be clear before the entire world who is responsible for the violence, who is responsible for the carnage and who is responsible for the onslaught of blood shed. How are you preparing . What are you telling your negotiators . What is Prime Minister netanyahu telling negotiators and the idf, the Israel Defense forces . Its clear hamas has a list of demands from here tore vladivostok. Its clear that you cant meet all of hamass demands. These three demands, its allowing the seaport to function, it is opening the entrances in egypt and in israel so that there can be freedom of movement. And then there is lifting whatever you want to call it, most people call it a blockade. Those do not seem like unreasonable demands, mark. First of all, the restrictions on gaza, the sanctions that exist ones go are there because of the violence. Hamas cant shoot rockets into israel and say it wants an open boarder with trade. It doesnt work that way. The key to normalizing relations is endsing the vee lins and he the jihad. If theyre willing to do that, many things are positive. Unfortunately so far, weve barely had three days of quiet and theyre already threatening to shoot rocks into israel. Thats not how things are going to move forward. Would israel be willing to go along with those demands as part of a future peace negotiation . Weve said publicly if theres a sustained period 6 quiet where we dont have no, sir missiles coming into israel, we dont have the tunnels with the death squads trying to kill our people, if theres an end, a cessation of all violence and aggression from gaza into israel, of course were willing to discuss easing the sanctions. Thats part of the egyptian framework. But hamas, if it really wants to see moral easing, it has to play its part and we have to see a total cessation of violence. Once again. Surely, understand that a lot of people in gaza see what happened in the west bank with president abbas and his agreement to demilitary rise and the west banks still not a state. Settlements are still being purchased. Still no airport. They say we shouldnt demille rise. Abbas demilitarized and he didnt get anything out of it. More and more are coming out of the rubble and asking why was this is necessary . Why did hamas force this conflict upon us . Why is there extremist agenda which ultimately is destroying so much property and lives in gaza. I think hamas has a lot to answer for. Do you not see that the conditions in which the people of gaza live because of these restrictions on their movement, because of the closure of their seaport, they cant have the an airport, there is a blockade, that this causes a lot of them to be desperate and turn to violence . Im not excusing it in any way. Im just saying thats the reality on the ground. But the reality is as follows the rockets led to the restrictions. If the rockets stop, if the violence stops, the restrictions can be aced. Its as easy as one plus one equals two. The question is, is hamas willing to end the fire of rockets into israel. If they can answer say no more aggression, of course we can move forward. In trying to normalize the relationship between israel and gaza. As long as they remain remain committed to violent jihad and stuck in the radical mode like isis in iraq and hezbollah in lebanon, im sorry, israel has to protect itself. They cant expect to have a normal relationship with my country when he this he have the violent agenda toward our people. Mark regev, thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it. Coming up, the clock ticking down on the temporary ceasefire in the middle east as negotiations crumble. Hamas vowing an end if their demands are not met. Plus, thousands of christians desperately fleeing iraq as terrorists tell them convert or die. Now sources say the u. S. Is making plans for possible military intervention. Stay with us. Im jane and i have copd. Im dave and i have copd. Im kate and i have copd, but i dont want my breathing problems to get in the way my volunteering. Thats why i asked my doctor about breo. 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Some palestinian officials hinting today that progress is being made in the negotiations in cairo, but hamas leaders at least those with the military wing didnt seem to get that memo. A spokesman for the group essentially drew a line in the santd with this message, meet our demands or get ready for battle. Joining me is the Deputy Speaker of the Fatah Council and former advisor to Palestinian Authority president mahmoud abbas. Thank you so much for joining us. How concerned are you that this ceasefire already expire without an agreement in place . Do you think hamas is possibly just making a gambit here . This is a negotiating ploy . Well, im very concerned in answer to your question. Im not only concerned because of what have hamas had said. Im concerned that Benjamin Netanyahu has not scored enough points for him to win victory on the ground. I think he will resume that attack on gaza because he wants to end the next elections. Its not the war of israeli ss the palestinians. It is netanyahu versus the palestinians. So the tunnels are not finished. The rockets are not finished. He would want to go back and score more points, kill more people, demolish more of gaza and get the victory he wants. I think it is a fierce battle. Im not that optimistic, to tell you the truth. It has to be said the Palestinian Authority fatah, egypt, israel, most of the players that i can count want this ceasefire tore continue unconditionally. Hamas doesnt seem to want that unless their demands are met. Whats your message to hamas right now the . I assume that youre worried that the expiration of the ceasefire will mean more innocent dead people, especially in gaza . Indeed, no one would like to see any civilian being hurt regardless of his or her religion or role in life. Whats happening here is not to basically say that the palestinians are divided in any way. We have a united delegation that is there in egypt. Its negotiating on behalf of the plo. Hamas and Islamic Jihad is included. It is the message to the International Community that israel is running the longest occupations in modern time and annexing more and more land as we speak. And that israel is turning its back to the United Nations resolutions. So its not about the borders anymore. Its its not about the livelihood of palestinians anymore. Its not about lifting the siege of gaza anymore and im not belittling is these points that i mentioned. What is most important to the palestinians is to end occupation. You cannot equate occupation with security. If israel wants security, it has to allow justice to be served and it has to adopt the following slogan, live and let live. If that formula is not achieved, i think we will see a war thats going to resume in a few hours or a war thats going to rehappen in two years, three years time. So the end to occupation will mean peace for israel and security for its citizens. But im afraid this formula does not happen or does not seem to be on the cards for at least the coming future. Do you really think that israel should be expected to say in a threeday ceasefire that theyre willing to without any concessions agree to all of hamass demands . Im not even saying theyre unreasonable demands in terms of lifting the blockade and an you log exits and entrances opened and allowing the seaport. But certainly in a negotiation, were going to have a negotiation now, you get everything you want, i dont have to give you anything, youre more sophisticated than that. Shouldnt you be telling hamas thats not how negotiations work . Well, again, jake, you insist it is hamas versus israel. We have a united delegationings in egypt negotiating on behalf of the palestinians at large. Its not only hamas, it is the demands of the palestinians. Even the American Administration said repeatedly we have to basically root out the problems that have caused and have led to the scenes we saw in gaza. So without facing the music, without turning to the fact that israel has to end its occupation, without even acknowledging that had it not been for the existence of Israeli Occupation, we would not have seen the scenes we saw in gaza. That problem will continue to occur. Death will continue to be on the cards and more blood shed. I think as an ordinary human being, i would say you know, we would love to live in peace. We are not humans of different planet. We are as everybody else on this planet, wed like to see peace. We are definitely not the children of a lesser god. So israel cannot go on the rampage without being even taken to International Criminal court. That will happen because 2000 people were killed. Majority of which are women and children. So israel is given a free hand and the International Community has to Uphold International Law and stop israel, this attack that israel is conducting and control this military might. Thats benefiting from the silence of the International Community and killing more and more of the palestinians and creating the very violence that you mentioned in one of your questions to mark regev. I think cnn, other channels would have to adopt the palestinian narrative that end to Israeli Occupation would mean security for israel. Other than that, i dont see any progress being made and what is going to happen in gaza if israel agrees to several demands here and there, it is going just to be a small or short anesthesia thats going to just put problems aside only to resurface in the coming future. All right. Sabri, thank you so much for your time. Coming up next, iraqis fleeing terrorists celebrating killing as they make their way across iraq. 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Official always tells cnn whats happening in iraq just might meet the threshold for air strikes. Obviously, that would jump this up to a whole new level. Maybe thats what the had president obama so worked up when he was talking to dennis mcdone nan today earlier in virginia. Jim acosta today pressed the white house about potential air strikes. Are air strikes on the table . Well, jim, im not in a position to rule things on or off the table in this context. Its important for everyone to understand and the president has made this clear that there are no American Military solutions to the problems in iraq. The president has at the same time dem mon strayed his clear willingness to take the kind of military action thats required to of protect core american interests. Okay. Was that clear for you . Remember, it was fewer than three years ago when president obama declared iraq sovereign, stable and selfreliant as the last american combat troops pulled out of the country. Chief National Security correspondent jim chute tote is in washington. This is exactly the kind of situation that could quickly turn into genocide. Isis is giving people the ultimatum of convert or be killed. Give us an idea where this is taking place and how much of iraq isis now claims as their own. Give us an idea. Ill tell you, im told now that u. S. Officials that the administration is considering air strikes and that is in response to rapidly moving events on the ground. First the situation with thia see dees trapped between mosul ander bill surrounded by i was forces and theyre starving. Theyre dying of 30s literally and fearing for their lives because of the threat from the isis fighter hozzle kill them. Weve seen what theyre capable of. They advertise what that he capable of in previous massacres theyve undertaken in northern iraq. The other thing that concerns officials is this. It the advance of isis just in the

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