escalating tit for tat up north and india, the largest democracy in the world. >> reporter: a brutal murder with all the hallmarks of an assassination. hardeep singh nijar was a controversial sihk gunned down in front of his place of worship. the canadian government has now said out loud what many are suspected, that there is credible evidence that the killing took place on the orders of the indian government. >> the government of india needs to take this matter with the utmost seriousness. we are doing that, we are not looking to provoke or escalate. we are simply laying out the facts as we understand them, and we want to work with the government of india. >> trudeau says before going public, he confronted india prime minister, narendra modi with his accusations last week, as modi hosted trudeau and other leaders at the g20 summit. they were allegations the indian government refused to accept. >> the killing of a canadian citizen on canadian soil is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty. >> days later, trudeau stood in canada's parliament and let rip his astonishing claim, before expelling the head of india's spy agency in canada. the indian government responded in kind, expelling a canadian diplomat and issuing a blunt statement calling the claims absurd and accusing canada of sheltering terrorists and extremists. while the canadian government is leaning on what it describes as credible evidence, the murder remains unsolved. the royal canadian mounted police tell cnn this remains a priority investigation. in the last weeks, police released photos of a possible get away car looking to identify mass suspects they described as heavier set males. the newest disclosures on this murder have been chilling for many in canada's sihk community. nijar's son says he's satisfied in complicity may be known. >> it's a sense of relief, it's finally coming to the public's eyes that the indian government is involved. >> reporter: a few things to note here, jake, nijar was, in fact, labeled a terrorist by the indian government. they said he was basically trying to break up india because he was a supporter and a leader in the sikh separatist movement in india. this is a dangerous fault line in indian politics, but now it has embroiled canada, and i have to point out, jake, india as you well know is the center piece of the indo-pacific strategy, right, that counter weight to china for the biden administration. biden was informed of all of this at the g20 before by trudeau personally, before trudeau made his accusations public, and that's a good indication that everyone knows the stakes here. not just for canadian policy but for u.s. policy as well. >> all right. paula newton in the canadian capital of ottawa, thank you so much. let's bring in national security spokesperson, john kirby. you heard the report on justin trudeau saying the government of india carried out an assassination in canada. trudeau says he raised this with president biden privately before going public. what did trudeau tell biden? >> well, look, i'm going to protect diplomatic conversations, i'll leave it at that. certainly the president is mindful of these serious allegations and they are rr serious, and we support canada's effort to investigate this. we believe a fully transparent, comprehensive investigation is the right approach so that we can all know exactly what happened and of course we encourage india to cooperate with that. >> so canada is part of the five eyes spying networks, right, the u.s. shares intelligence. does the united states have the intelligence that trudeau is using? does the u.s. know what exactly trudeau is basing these claims on? >> i think you can understand, jake, i'm going to be careful about what i say here to preserve the sanctity of the investigation and leave it for canada to talk about the underpinning information here, and what more they're trying to learn. we want to respect that process and it's their investigation. >> if it is true, if it can be proven that india's prime minister, modi, ordered an assassination of an individual on canadian sovereign land, what repercussions should there be? >> well, again, let's not get ahead of where we are. there's an active investigation. we think it needs to be fully transparent and comprehensive. we know the canadians will work to that end. we urge india to cooperate with that investigation so that the facts can take investigators where they go, and then once we have all the facts and we have conclusions that we can draw from that, then you can start to look at recommendations or behaviors you might want to pursue. >> "the new york times" is reporting that the biden administration and saudi officials are discussing terms of a mutual defense treaty that would resemble what u.s. has with two of its closest allies, with japan, and with south korea, which are democracies in hopes that we get saudi arabia to normalize relations with israel. are we able to share any details on? >> there's no agreed framework working toward normalization. i would say we continue to encourage both sides to pursue normalization. normalization for israel is not only good for israel and the israeli people but the region writ large. it will make a more cooperative stable middle east. we also have and will continue to work with saudi arabia on their defense needs. they have real defense needs. there's been an 18-month truce in yemen. that's good. there hasn't been as much violence across the border into saudi arabia. we know saudi arabia has legitimate defense needs. we're going to work with them for the future and seeing what the architecture can look like going forward. >> can the united states have a similar defense treaty with saudi arabia that it has with democracies such as south korea and japan? saudi arabia is not a democracy. it has an atrocious human rights record. the u.n. has said that the saudi-led war in yemen, you noted the cease fire, but it's resulted in mass killings of civilians, one of the worst manmade crises in the world, and the killing of "washington post" journalist jamal ka hashoggi wa ordered by mbs. let's remind our viewers of what canada said on the campaign trail. >> we were going to make them pay the price and make them the pariah that they are. there's very little social redeeming value in the present government in saudi arabia. >> he sounds very different when he talks about saudi arabia today. >> well, look, there's no question that saudi arabia is a strategic partner, has been for some 80 decades. it's also no question, as you show, the president hasn't been bashful about expressing our concerns with saudi behavior. that is strategic partnership. we want to keep moving forward. we need to do that. there have been repercussions for saudi arabia. the president declassified the information around the khashoggi killing. we need to also look at the future of the middle east and what that needs to look like, not just for the saudi people, the israeli people but for american national security interests. i don't want to get ahead of where these discussions are, jake, but these are important discussi discussions and kwwe're going t have them with our allies. and. >> i don't know what repercussions you're talking about. take a look at this photo of president biden from a few days ago with crown prince mohammad bin salman, biden is shaking his hand, smiling at him. was the president bummed that the photo was made public? this is actually not the one i was talking about. there's another one where biden is looking at mbs and smiling at him. was the president bummed the photo was made public. >> the president shook his hand. he shook a lot of hands at the g20. it was a gathering of significant world leaders to work on problems that we can all try to solve for people around the world including infrastructure, investment, and economic multilateral development banks. there's a lot that was discussed. crown prince was a part of those discussions, and the president was happy to have a range of discussions with world leaders to awful of those ends. >> president biden in his speech at the u.n. promised to continue to speak with ukraine. and could disrupt ailed to ukraine, which could come at a critical time as ukrainian troops are in the middle of this counter offensive, how worried are you about a possible shut down and its impact. >> a shutdown is not good for anybody. it's going to hurt our economy. we're going to make sure it doesn't affect our national security. the national security apparatus continues to function as it must, and we continue to defend our national security interests. we don't want to see impact on supplemental funding for ukraine. we have asked for $24 billion of defense related security assistance for ukraine, and this supplemental, which i remind you only gets us through the first quarter of the fiscal year. it's likely we need to talk to congress about additional funding going forward. that's important. as the president laid out in his speech today, what happens in ukraine isn't just affecting ukraine, it's affecting the european continent. it could potentially affect in greater ways our own national security, so it's important that we rally the international community and members of congress to continue to support ukraine. >> john kirby, thank you so much for your time. i appreciate it. >> yes, sir. let's turn to cnn diplomatic editor, nic robertson. what mr. kirby told me about canada, trudeau saying the government of india carried out the assassination. biden did reference this in his speech before the u.n. today? >> yeah, he did. you raised the point of the five eyes, the countries, united states, canada, uk, australia, all sharing intelligence, what one sees the other sees, five eyes, that's how it works. it's mutual understanding, and therefore a mutual effort against the same threat. but it was interesting that president biden did say in his speech today when he was talking about the values of human rights, he said the values of human rights essentially can't be ignored, whether they're in xinjiang or toronto. when do people start talking about human rights in frtoronto. it seems to me he gets what's going on. the british prime minister as well has talked to the canadians and he is also concerned about the allegations that they're making about india. so it does seem to me that john kirby, not able to speak publicly about what the five eyes shares, but i think we can understand that president biden is aware. >> yeah, it seems to me that trudeau wouldn't have said it publicly unless he was pretty clear and sure of the charge and that president biden wouldn't have said that if he hadn't been at least a little familiar with the intelligence. what do you make of what kirby said about the biden administration and saudi officials discussing terms of a mutual defense treaty. >> i think he said it all there, the 18 months of cease fire in yemen, that's a positive, right. you try to point out that mbs was defense minister at the time, that precipitated that war in 2015, very costly in terms of lives. again, an indication from kirby that this is something that's important. we'll work with saudi arabia on their concerns, and the united states, the reality here is the united states is still the number one preferred choice for saudi arabia for security. they want a lot, and this is really seen as a time by mbs when he can get a good bargain from president biden, he wants some sort of legacy, and that would be some sort of middle east peace would be good, and it does seem that mbs sees this moment in time as an opportunity that he needs as well because he needs that pat on the back, if you will, for the united states. he needs to show his country, because his father's not well, and he will soon be king one day, that he can deal with the united states effectively for the security of saudi arabia. there's a mutual interest there, and i think john kirby was reflecting that interest. i think his language really spoke to the fact that the days of president biden's inaugural speech and what he said about saudi arabia then being a pariah, that was then. now is different. >> yeah, nick roe robertson, th you so much. volodymyr zelenskyy will be on "the situation room" and you can see that interview after "the lead" could the war spill over to nato territory. i'm going to ask the president of poland about how worried he is about being next. plus, what hunter biden is asking a judge as he makes plans to appear in court on federal gun charges. and donald trump's pro union play, we'll play his message to auto work eers on strike in the battleground state of michigan. stay with us. bath fitter is a better way to remodel your tub. precise measuring means the perfect fit. the bath fitter tub ov tub process means no mess or stress. a custom-made tub and seamless wall mean a watertight fit. premium acrylic means it lasts a lifetime. and all this together means a great value. bath fitter. it just fits. visit bathfitter.com to book your free consultation. ♪ ♪ wake up, gotta go! c'mon, c'mon. -gracie, c'mon. let's go! guys, c'mon! mom, c'mon! mia! 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>> translator: i would like to be able to say very much not only to the members of the congress, members of the republican party, but generally to the politicians in the united states to all our friends here in the united states of america, to the citizens of the united states of america, if we want there to be no war in the world, which is conducted by russia, if we want to make sure that the military threat is not increasing, then we should make an effort and we have to save ukraine, we need to help ukrainians defend themselves. this is our obligation today, vis-a-vis the free world to listen to them, to help them, and we have to take effort, make effort to do that. as i said, ukraine must regain control over its internationally recognized borders, because as a matter of fact, that will mean victory. it is not about entering russian territories, it is about making sure that russia is not able legally to the borders in europe so it's not able to occupy the lens of an independent and sovereign european country. this is the basic issue, the guarantee of the peace in the future. also for the united states of america. >> one of the issues that many house republicans are worried about is corruption in ukraine. president zelenskyy is attempting to root out corruption in his government. just yesterday, all six of ukraine's defense deputy ministers were dismissed. given those corruption issues, have you talked to president zelenskyy about corruption. are you confident the money poland is giving to ukraine is being spent wisely? >>. >> translator: of course this is a big problem, and it's not a problem of ukraine that it is facing only today. this is a problem which has existed in ukraine for many years. one can say for tens of years, and it is my personal belief that volodymyr zelenskyy, when only he was elected to the office of the president of ukraine started right away to find against it, that the situation is, indeed, extremely difficult, and it is going to be a very difficult process. it is not easy to defeat corruption. but referring to the previous question, let everyone look at the history. whenever there was war in europe, whenever that war was growing, whenever it was spilling over europe, the united states sooner or later had to intervene to put an end to that war. unfortunately, if the war spilled over too much, the american soldiers were coming, i believe nobody wants to see that today. the russian aggression against ukraine has to be stopped, it has to be thwarted, nipped in the bud because that will be the guarantee of peace for the future. we need to help ukraine. we need to help ukraine push russians away from its territory, may they come back to their soil, that is number one. and number two, ukraine has to be supported in its reforms, in its fight against corruption, and this is extremely important today. >> the president of poland, thank you so much for your time today. >> thank you very much. coming up, florida governor ron desantis telling republican voters, donald trump's about to sell you out. what's the issue that has him on the attack? 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because he knows this is the kind of manipulation we saw in 2016. now in 2024, he actually has a record. like he did in 2020, and we have to hold him accountable. it's not complicated. this is the kind of distortion and abuse, frankly of, you know, the media and the air waves that we have seen from donald trump. he's trying to have it both ways, and the truth is nobody trusts donald trump to cut any kind of deal with anybody, and i can just say as a democrat, i'm not happy that's what ron desantis wanted to hear. >> you're not happy that what? >> desantis, said, oh, this is going to make democrats so happy. no, i'm not happy. i'm not happy to see donald trump again, more lies, more misdirection, that unfortunately some people may buy. >> and let's turn to another matter of the trump cam paign. a new radio ad the trump campaign is running in detroit and toledo, talking about the auto workers strike. >> donald trump calls them great americans, and has always had their backs from tax cuts for their families to playing hardball with china. biden, he's turned his back on the auto workers, by cutting a deal that uses american tax dollars to help fund china's electric car business. >> that's not entirely accurate there. the electric car business is an american electric car business. it's true that the batteries are made in china, and maybe that's something that american manufacturing should think about. but what's interesting about it is obviously trump making a direct play for union voters, which is not something that republicans normally have done. >> no, we've already seen a real split with that with tim scott who's gone the more traditional route and done so loudly. the one time i talked to donald trump's campaign, i e-mailed a friend, no democrat has gone to flint, michigan, yet, and talked about the ground water there, the drinking water there. if donald trump were the first, he would explode this campaign. it obviously never happened, but this is sort of a version of that. he's going to places where republicans don't typical do so, he's going to do it presumably when republicans are at their most, the biggest shrine that republicans have, the reagan library, in a debate to say, i'm doing something different, and ultimately, i'm for you. if that message he'd used effectively against hillary clinton, he's trying to do so here. he's making a different argument. >> it's a general election argument, right, because the truth is, and i think biden would love to have this conversation in a general election because the very ceos that the union is trying to hold accountable in their negotiating got massive tax breaks from the trump tax cut, so the irony of him going back to workers and i'm for you, when he didn't do a thing for them when he was president, i went back and looked at all the fact checks of his various trips to michigan in 2020, where he basically, just once again lied about his record. he said he was going to bring manufacturing back, and he was going to save plants when actually during his time in office, we lost factories, gm factory, frankly, in michigan. sure he's going to do it, doesn't mean he's going to tell the truth. >> more than 70% of the american people according to a gallup poll are with the striking auto workers, and a majority of the country is with the striking actors and writers in hollywood. there is, i don't want to say populous because that word is getting so stigmatized but there's a pro worker sentiment in the country right now, and yet, trump is doing this, which i think is smart politics. you have nikki haley asked about it, she said i'm from a right to work state. i chase out the unions. you have tim scott saying look at what reagan did with the air traffic controllers. if people go on strike, you should fire them. it feels like trump, and again, you don't have to believe him, but just in terms of the politics of it, it does seem more on the pulse of the american people. >> and trump is not alone here. we have seen j.d. vance speak out on this as well. we'll see other house members and senate members, there's a risk that as these things go on, often where the blame happens can shift. as house republicans have learned over the years, when you shut down the government, the country may think it's fine for a while, but the longer it goes on, they start to question some of those policies. if we have the strike go on for a long time, i think families are going to be in a real bind here, and we'll see if they turn on this or not. >> speaking at a closed door fundraiser in a packed broadway theater yesterday, karen. president biden had sharp words for donald trump. he said, quote, let there be no question, donald trump and his maga republicans are determined to destroy american democracy. he said in 2024, democracy is on the ballot once again. i know he really believes that. the message worked in 2020. do you think it's going to be as resonant this year or next year, rather? >> a thousand percent. look at what just happened in ohio when reproductive freedom was on the ballot, it won. particularly for women in this country. that is democracy. if we're not treated as full citizens in a democracy, absolutely, the attacks on voting rights and other freedoms and the fundamental shifts that this country is undergoing that joe biden is trying to talk about. >> doug and karen, thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. the next big wave up next, what's behind a new surge in migrant crossings at the u.s. southern border? have business e internet, nationwide. 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