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Director Stormy Daniels to keep it away from voters right before the 2016 election. Lets discuss now with p2, people who know key players in this case, Stacy Sneider is a manhattan Criminal Defense Attorney and a former contestant on trumps tv show, the apprentice. She has also worked with Manhattan District Attorney alvin Braggs Office and appeared before judge juan former engineer r trump is a cotructionrojects and author of the ok, tor of lies, what my years of working with donald trump reveals abouhim barbara, lets start with youwhat do you think donald tmps mindset is right now as he sits in court foris very first criminal trial, is a former president yeah, an someone asking me a yea barba, cau not hear me all right. Hear you . T go to see anything. Ok. Lets go to acy. Scy, you haveorked with bh trump and jue mercn. Tmp has ready centlyled dge ooked. Ow do you expe this ll all play out so i think judge ma seanto and thanu for having m jake, i thk judgmae sean it has cpletntrol of his courtroom. His kno to have contof this courooand a very interesting thing about him is is that on the wednesdays when this case will not be heardthats the one day they hava break. Judge, mug shot and Actuallrunshe Mental Heah felony part of manhatn courouse. So if theres any judge ats used to an outbst in court who can hand that perfectlwith that would judd more sean. So i thintrump is gng to control himself a lot more than he did in his civil trial. In t other cothouses ere he what do you seetacy as Donald Trumps Bestefenses D the biggest weaksses in kay. L, t case. A is reallengaging in a novel precutn heeyve charm with the felony records a mismeanor. Its Easyo Ove All You Ha to the records of a n york enterprise. Thisase goes a step further. In that e is alleged to have had this affair. 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This inot approach from Ty Whare Going to be against trump, but in y case, on any issue that comes up in court, whether its drug use, the are always goingo be pple with an opinion and they will find enough jurors to serve. Th need 12 and say six alternat. They will fi enough people to come to court listen to the idence, put any biases or feelings they haveside and give a fair verdic so it just tas time alrit. Barbara, im told that we ha your audio and video back. Sorry about that. Let me ask you, barra trump is essentially being accused of trying Tcover Up Hush Ney Payments Tsilence an extra marital girlnd aut an alled affair. When you work wi trump, did you ever s any indition that heould be involv . In any sort of cover up or paying someby to be quiet the cente im used always had a beard. There that was just his own personal thing and yeah, hes dealing with minor frankly, i think that south would love not to have covered it up. You would love to say, im going over at this point, ill stop but intentionally, he knew that. Hurt him and that was the reason for the payments. And theres no other reason to the payment so saysomething about hiwi were yeah. I dont pull reports, barbara, t reporters in e room say that trump turned jurors as he was introduced as the fendant. Do you think thats part of an attempt to charm em . What do you think i think its his way of showinw confident he is. Tough years his persona and each carrying it through its going to carry thisuit tthe trial. All right. By resin, stacy. Thas. Hanks to both you joining me now to discuss former tru attney ji trusty. He left e trump lega yll team after the former president was dicted in the classified documents case, jim thanks so much. For being here. So you worked for do trump. What do you k hee saying to his lawyers, Right Noter Th First Day of yeah. Look, i think thehe biggest conversation is about about the process of jury selection. It is a challenge in todays world where the jurors want, unlike history, a lot of them want to get on a jury like this. They want to have that opportunity to be a Celebrity Juror at some point to go on tv and announce all the things that are supposedly secret but by way of deliberations and i think that makes a real challenge for trumps attorneys to try to fair it out. Which ones are sleepers . Which ones areuiding the answers to the courts questions in a way where they say, well, i know. I voted democratic for the last 52 years, but i think i could be fair its a very easy task asd to shade your qualifying answerin a way where you might get selected or at least you cut into the number of team has to get rid of jurors thout cause. Si think the challenge is to really keep an eye on whether the judge tries to rehabilitate jurors that might be unfair to President Trump, or whether hes very quick to dismiss them as long they Say Something about being biased and thats s not fun watching jury selection. But thats the challenge for the next few days is to figure out whats the mode of interrogation, whats the mode of disqualification is taking place . He appears to have been on pretty Good Behavior today, keeping quiet when he needed to keep quiet, answering the judge. In fact, Mega Haberman says she was in the courtroom. She says he even appear to nod off at one point which maybe many of our viewers can find relatable if youve ever been to court. But do you think his attorneys are worried that he will ultimately get in his own way by acting out in courts he did for instance, durinthe e jean croll case . Yeah. I dont i dont think so. I mean, i dont have any inside scoop there in terms of talking to the attorneys, but yeah. Look, this is even in new york, even if the judge has some hostility to President Trump which the gag order would suggest he does. This is a tribal case. I mean, any litigator is champing at the bit notion of crossexamining Michael Cohen i think the strategy, if youre President Trumps lawyers, yeah, theres whole nch of noveltwhich i would call frailty to this case. But at the end of the de you want to make it about Michael Cohen . And then if you can make it about a convicted perjurer, about a failed cooperator and say, folks, would you even buy a car from this guy much less base your verdict on this mans word that could be something that at least gets a hung jury, which would be a victory here. So first, lets talk about Michael Cohen and lets talk about the hung jury strategy. Sure. We had lainey davis here, he used to be Michael Cohens attorney and his basic argument was, and this is an attorney for Michael Cohen, former that yes. Michael cohen perjured himself before congress, but he did so at the direction of donald trump. And thats going to be what Michael Cohen says. Yes, i lied, but i did so because donald trump told me too, because i worked with him. But now, now the truth is setting me free. That will be easy. You think for the defense to poke holes in . Yeah. Ihink thats kind of the ll mu wants fo me twice commt, like, which time are we supposed to Belve Mike Wa again . Hes got a longer track record of saying tngs contradicting himself over time wh it comes to the President Trump. So look hes heasnt a great lawyer to pick. You can always go back and saywell, yourehe one that picked them, esident trump, i get that. But hes going to collapse of his n weightnd a lot of way i mean, hes li to ngress. He is a fail cooperator Southern District of neyork which has not shy to take cases walk aw not only from this case, bufromim directly sayi were not going to give many credit for cooperation. Hes too slippery to dishonest. So you have to make ion as a trial lawyer for psident trump ists all about this ke it the bank. And n blaming ing thvictim of his dishonesty probably wont. So jimusty, thanks so much. Priate it. Will have you back to talkore as his case continues, Donald Trumps Upt Trump Tower any mont, l trump is railing about the legal system bng rigged ainst him. Is the legal system actually kinder to him, however, then it might be two the average american were gointo talk to somebody who believes that thats next this situation with blitzer didnt night it six. Once cnn ai is redefining work, Artificial Intelligence is supercharging our own Human Intelligence and thats what well move business forward. 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We just need to protect nature will do the rest corbin plus cnn filled sunday at nine close captioning brought to you by mesobook if you or a loved one have mesothelial not well send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and well come to you 808 to one 4,000 heres some video from just moments ago outside trump tower, were a former President Trump just arrived waving and giving us supportive fist two fans for months up until this morning, former President Trump has been lashing out at the judge and prosecutors and potential witnesses in the new york criminal trial. So the judge put him under a gag order, banning him for making public statements about many of the people connected with the case. And also from attacking the judges Family Members as trump has as mr. Trump is still allowed to talk about Manhattan District Attorney alvin bragg and new york judge juan roshan, which he did over the weekend have a crooked judge, a highly conflicted and corrupt judge. You suffers from tds, Trump Derangement Syndrome theres no evidence that the judge has any antitrump feelings or biases or tds, james moser, the legal editor for politico, joins me now and james, youre out with a new story. You say, quote, how donald trump gets special treatment in the legal system thats what its titled. And you write in a quote, trump is unmatched in a two system of justice. He often says, and hes right, there are two tiers. But trump frequently has been the beneficiary, not the victim, unquote. So mr. Trump constantly claims to be a victim of an unjust system. You write its quite the opposite. Explain well, i think there are many examples of how donald trump, in his odyssey through the criminal Justice System over the last year is being treated differently and more favorably than almost any other criminal defendant standing in those same shoots there are a number of examples of this, and i think the principle example is some of the comments that you just mentioned, jake. The way that trump has relentlessly attacked almost everyone involved in all these cases. Hes denigrated the prosecutors, the judges, judges, Family Members, witnesses against him and he is under some gag orders in these cases, and he certainly toes right up to the line of those gag orders and sometimes violates those guy goiters. But even aside from the gags, in all of his criminal cases, trump is under strict pretrial conditions. He has to abide by certain rules. And those rules preclude him from doing things like attacking potential witnesses against him. But he has done that. Hes just this weekend, he attacked Michael Cohen, the star witness, and the prosecutions case in the new york trial. And what ive had criminal Defense Attorneys tell me, is it that any of their clients were to make those sorts of comments while theyre on pretrial release theyd be thrown in jail pretty quickly what stood out to you today in terms of the thesis of your article, in terms of the Two Tiered System and i agree with you by the way, there is a Two Tiered System and its, and its poor people who cant afford good legal representation and who often get shoe horned into into prosecutions, and weve covered that a number of times on this show, but but today, did you see any examples of this i thought it was incredibly ironic that much of the morning session today, the first day of the trial was about trumps comments over the weekend and in fact, the prosecutors

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