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Narcotics, resulting in death, as well as numerous state charges. And police are still looking for the owners husband. The news continues. The source with kaitlan the source with Kaitlan Collins starts now. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com tonight, straight from the source, complete chaos at the capitol, as even more republicans are revolting against House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy, who is now saying they want to burn the house down or at least cause a shutdown. Plus ukraines president zelenskyy meeting with President Biden today and fighting a different battle, this one for more funding. And a Real Life Succession, what Rupert Murdochs exit from fox could mean for the future of American Politics. Im Kaitlan Collins and this is the source. With the government set to shun down in just nine days, tonight House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy sent his deeply fractured Republican Caucus home for the rest of the week. Yes, you heard that right. They are leaving town without having done their job to actually fund the government. And right on cue, the white house is taking advantage of this. President biden posting this saying that the last time there was a government shutdown, 800,000 americans were furloughed, or worked without pay. But, hey, enjoy your weekend. Just yesterday, Kevin Mccarthy said he was going to keep those lawmakers in washington for a rare weekend session to they could figure out a way to fund the government. But today everything changed again. Mccarthy was dealt another black eye when several of his members actually voted down their own defense bill for the second time just this week, leaving mccarthy clearly frustrated. This is a whole new concept of individuals that want to burn the whole place down. There were no f bombs this time, at least none that we could hear. But the frustration was clear throughout his entire party. Were dysfunctional. Its just that simple. That simple. We are so dysfunctional. You know, weve got nobody at the head. Ill say this, the trains left the station. Its frustrating because youre going hurt our defense, and theres no rational explanation. This is absurd. I am not going to be party to be a shutdown. The dysfunction could not have been clearer than when republicans were voting against their own bill. A no vote is basically voting against your own leadership. Just for context on how rare that is, in the last 28 years the house has only failed to pass what is called to rule eight times. So far in only eight months since hes been speaker, mccarthy has now lost three of those votes. Two happening just this week. Lets get straight to the source tonight with republican congressman Timb Burr Tim burr tennessee. Why is everybody going home without this being involved . They told us in the whips office this afternoon to stay. So, a lot of people are turning around and coming back. Im not leaving. Weve got work to do. I think it really sets a bad example to the American Public that, in fact, you know, we work these massive twohour days up here in washington since ive been here five years. Well take a couple of hours for lunch. Well cater in a pizza or something. And then call it an early day. People in east tennessee, maam, weve got teachers, single moms, beauticians, lawyers, policemen, firemen, people that actually work for a living that just cant believe this. And the amount of money were paid. So, yeah, its very dysfunctional right now, but were most of us are back. And i understand that appropriations is meeting in the morning. And i would hope that they would make it an early morning. So, do you think anything will actually get done in the next few days . Yes, maam. We actually we got some releaf in the whips meeting. My colleague matt gaetz, from florida, actually is really working very hard on an issue. And the problem weve had is voting on singleissue bills. You know, they put these crs, continued resolutions, and then say, were going to pass a continued resolution for 30 days. We need to pass this continued resolution so we can get off continued resolutions the next time. Well, thats like telling a Heroin Addict were going to get you off heroin by giving you more heroin. It doesnt work. I dont like passing, as she says, passing something so you know whats in it. Thats exactly what an omnibus bill is. Itll be, say, 2,000 pages, and youll read down until you find funding and then you stop voting. Congressman, what youre talking about here and what the arguments have been about between you and your colleagues over not agreeing on this is a messaging bill. Because the spending cuts that republicans are fighting over so furiously have no chance of getting passed through the senate. So, what is the ultimate plan here . Yes, maam, i would flip that on you and say what the senate is working on has no chance of passing in the house. I mean, were supposed to be equal bodies. And i just dont buy that rationale, maam. We should be theres 435 of us, and granted we have our differences, but we are one of the three branches of government. So, i would hope that in the future, people would see that. I mean, thats a pretty Common Knowledge thing. But still, i understand what youre saying, that theyre not going to pass what we want. When you negotiate, say, for instance, i pass a speed limit in tennessee, raise the speed limit. Steve cohen and i, of all people, passed the speed limit in tennessee. We asked for 85 and we took 70. In the beginning they were asking for a 1 cut. Like thats going to do anything when weve just passed the 33 trillion mark of debt, that we just continue to run up. And we do that by passing these continued resolutions. Now, though, were going to be able to vote on the individual appropriations. And lowe and behold, today they said, well vote on four of them. Even if you vote on those individual bills, are you going to be able to get all of that done, to the senate, have them send it back to you with their changes. As you were noting, its a negotiation here. Is that going to be able to be done by next sunday . Or do you think the government is going to shut down here . Why not . 24 hours of the day and we work about four of them up here and we walk out in our Brooks Brothers suits with our coats over our shoulders and our sleeves rolled up, telling the American Public weve worked when they know we havent. I would submit, lets work over the weekend. Are you saying that to other republicans . Yes, maam. Im not a member of congress. Are you saying that to Speaker Mccarthy . Yes, maam. I tweeted about it. I have over 95,000 followers. And the other members are saying that just as well. And we made that very clear in the whip meeting with whip immerit this afternoon and guy reezen thaler, his number two man. I think leadership understands that and they understand our frustration. So, yes, maam, i would say thats a valid point, and its been taken by leadership. Ill just say im a little skeptical because mike johnson said the hardliners were i do want to ask you, former president is saying there should be a shutdown, you and your colleagues should not support it, apparently believing it will halt the special counsels prosecutions. Do you think he understands that a shutdown does not do that . It does not stop jack smiths investigations and ongoing prosecutions . No, maam. You have to do a specific amendment to the bill to do that, to do the hollman rule, i believe its called. It is where you take a specific line item and you can literally flatten out an office, which is used for people that have been in there for too long and that are abusive. Ive heard this the only people ive heard it from oddly enough are from reporters today. I was with the president a little over a month ago. Of course he never brought it up then. But i have not heard from him since then about that. So, i have no earthly idea if thats what his plan is. Well, he posted that, but you agree, a shutdown has nothing to do with jack smiths investigation . No, maam, i dont believe it does. It has to be specific, so i would watch the specific amendment to the bill to do all of that. We heard how frustrated Speaker Mccarthy was earlier, saying the hardliners want to burn the house down, as he framed it. Do you believe he emerges with his job intact . I dont know. But i think thats a poor choice of words. We dont want to burn the house down. We just want to be fiscally sound. Thats what we ran for. Thats why i believe we received a very slim majority because we didnt push that out to the American Public just the billions and billions of dollars were wasting daily. We sent out 140 billion to ukraine unchecked and the poor people in maui cant even get anything. And the people in pennsylvania after the chemical spill, theyre still waiting. And i think our priorities are out of whack. And i understand if we shut down do you support i have a questions. I have my doubts right now because im seeing we need leadership, maam. We dont need someone just to say weve got 218 votes or whatever that jumps on the train after it leaves the station. We need some people Speaker Pelosi, for instance ill give you you know, i dont agree with her ever, hardly on anything, but she she was pretty successful in her and the way she did it was she put an issue out for caucus. She met with them. She figured out what they wanted. And then they put it on the floor and they passed it. And they rallied around it. A lot of work goes into that. Were not seeing that im not seeing that work right now. And its very disappointing to me. A rare compliment for a republican for Speaker Pelosi. Shes a friend of mine. She has a granddaughter named isabella and i have a daughter named isabelle. And my daughter got hurt real bad on a horse, and Speaker Pelosi is always asking me about her. I love to hear that. And we hope that your daughter is recovering well. Congressman, youve got a lot going on. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you so much for having me on, maam. Its been a pleasure, as always. And im joined now by New York Times Senior Correspondent Maggie Haberman and former White House Communications director, alyssa farah griffin. You worked on capitol hill during a time of, some would say chaos, when the Freedom Kaw Sus was getting rid of speaker bainer. Have you ever seen anything like weve seen play out right now. For historic context, i was there one of the times of rule that was taken down by the Republican Party. The tpa vote. This is an existential threat to Kevin Mccarthy. You asked the question at the end, could anyone other than him get 218. A couple things to look at here, these fights from the right and i know these guys very well tend to be veiled as fiscal fights. This is about addressing deficits and budgets. I worked in the trump administration. We spent as much as most democratic administrations do. Often times its something a bit more partisan. I suspect what will ultimately end this, if anything does, will be some kind of a concession on the more political side, whether it has to do with more investigations, its empowering something on the oversight committee. I think for a handful of members like this gentleman, it is about spending. But for those driving it like gaetz i dont think it is. And frankly i dont know anyone can get 218, but Kevin Mccarthy probably has the best Chance Holding onto it. What do you make of trump weighing in on this saying republicans should not pass this shortterm bill, which Kevin Mccarthy was trying to get republicans behind. He has this hope that it would affect his investigations, but as the congressman made clear, it would not. Its not going to. And i think realistically, donald trump has been told that by his advisers. He has done things that make things more complicated for Kevin Mccarthy. Kevin mccarthy has done things that upset former President Trump, including not endorsing him, which were aware of. I dont think its a surprise he is twisting the knife here. I think trump is much more aligned with these members, who alyssa correctly says, are talking about fiscal responsibility. Some of them clearly believe it, but many of them are talking about other things. This is a little different from some of the early todays of say the tea party when that first wave came in, when it was much more about spending. It has now become about all kinds of other things, and trump cares about all kinds of other things. Spending is theoretical. Hes not a fiscal conservative, shall we say. What was remarkable today and encapsulated, for people are its always chaotic on capitol hill. Watching republicans vote down their own Defense Spending Bill for the second time we spoke to michael mccaw, hes said hes never seen that happen once. Youve got Tommy Tuberville blocking pentagon promotions. The Republican Party is quickingly looking like the antidefense party because of the fights on the hill. Government funding is one thing. Faa reauthorization is coming up, Farm Bill Reauthorization is coming up next week. And if republicans shut down the government, their own impeachment inquiry, which is supposed to launch next week, wont be able to happen. Thats the one thing that makes me think the government might stay open. All this is happening while were watching the broader 2024 field. We heard from nikki haley today, who is doing better in some of our polls, shes in the race for second place. She obviously worked for trump and was commenting on him today. She said this about his legacy. He was the right president at the right time. He used to be good on foreign policy, and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to ukraine. He was thinskinned and easily distracted. Well, some things are true there and some were not. What she said about how he used to be strong about ukraine, that was a different period of time that i witnessed, anyway, during the impeachment battle, the first impeachment battle, which was about trump trying to withhold congressional funding to ukraine. I dont think anybody is taking issue with the characterization. I do think you are seeing nikki haley carve out an interesting space of separation from donald trump. You are correct that she is moving not just in New Hampshire but in other states as well. The campaigns are all talking about it as well that she is a threat to desantis but shes a threat to anybody else in the nontrump lane. And she is look, she has a Delegate Line to walk because she did serve him, because she did defend him any number of times. I think one of the things that is complicating for a lot of the folks in this current field, who have praised trump at various points, some of them very much so, like vivek ramaswamy, is trying to reconcile for voters what is different. But kaitlan, donald trump is not a different donald trump. And i think thats one of the things that is sounds inauthentic when these candidates are saying it. Thank you both for joining me on set. Ukraines president got a mixed reception on capitol hill today. Perhaps a taste of what it would be like if donald trump returns to power, as republicans in the house are turning their backs on more aid for his war. Plus, a Surprise Announcement from one of the most powerful people in the media world. Rupert murdoch retiring. Thats. Im 65. And really smart later im 70ish. Consider a an aarp Medicare Supplement Insurance Plan from unitededhealthcare. With this type of plan, youll know upfront about how much your care c costs. Which makes planning your financial future easier. So call unitedhealthcare today to learn more about the only plans of their kind with the aarp name. And set yourself and your future self up with an aarp Medicare Supplement plan from unitedhealthcare. Moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. Despite treatment disrupts my skin with itch. It disrupts my skin with rash. But now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. Rinvoq is not a sterd, topical, or injection. Its one pill, once a day. Many taking rinvoq saw clear or almostclear skin while some saw up to 100 clear skin. And, they felt dramatic and fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. Thats rinvoq relief. Rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. Serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers including lymphoma and skin cancer, death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. People 50 and older with at least one Heart Disease risk factor have higher risks. Dont take if allergic to rinvoq, as serious reactions can occur. Tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. Disrupt the itch and rash of eczema. Talk to your doctor about rinvoq. Learn how abbvie can help you save. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy was in washington today pleading for more help, as his country is still facing an onslaught of new russian attacks. The white house announced a new aid package to the tune of 325 million, but there was a stark difference in zelenskyys reception than this time last year. This time there were no Kaitlan Collins<\/a> starts now. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com tonight, straight from the source, complete chaos at the capitol, as even more republicans are revolting against House Speaker<\/a> Kevin Mccarthy<\/a>, who is now saying they want to burn the house down or at least cause a shutdown. Plus ukraines president zelenskyy meeting with President Biden<\/a> today and fighting a different battle, this one for more funding. And a Real Life Succession<\/a>, what Rupert Murdochs<\/a> exit from fox could mean for the future of American Politics<\/a>. Im Kaitlan Collins<\/a> and this is the source. With the government set to shun down in just nine days, tonight House Speaker<\/a> Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> sent his deeply fractured Republican Caucus<\/a> home for the rest of the week. Yes, you heard that right. They are leaving town without having done their job to actually fund the government. And right on cue, the white house is taking advantage of this. President biden posting this saying that the last time there was a government shutdown, 800,000 americans were furloughed, or worked without pay. But, hey, enjoy your weekend. Just yesterday, Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> said he was going to keep those lawmakers in washington for a rare weekend session to they could figure out a way to fund the government. But today everything changed again. Mccarthy was dealt another black eye when several of his members actually voted down their own defense bill for the second time just this week, leaving mccarthy clearly frustrated. This is a whole new concept of individuals that want to burn the whole place down. There were no f bombs this time, at least none that we could hear. But the frustration was clear throughout his entire party. Were dysfunctional. Its just that simple. That simple. We are so dysfunctional. You know, weve got nobody at the head. Ill say this, the trains left the station. Its frustrating because youre going hurt our defense, and theres no rational explanation. This is absurd. I am not going to be party to be a shutdown. The dysfunction could not have been clearer than when republicans were voting against their own bill. A no vote is basically voting against your own leadership. Just for context on how rare that is, in the last 28 years the house has only failed to pass what is called to rule eight times. So far in only eight months since hes been speaker, mccarthy has now lost three of those votes. Two happening just this week. Lets get straight to the source tonight with republican congressman Timb Burr Tim<\/a> burr tennessee. Why is everybody going home without this being involved . They told us in the whips office this afternoon to stay. So, a lot of people are turning around and coming back. Im not leaving. Weve got work to do. I think it really sets a bad example to the American Public<\/a> that, in fact, you know, we work these massive twohour days up here in washington since ive been here five years. Well take a couple of hours for lunch. Well cater in a pizza or something. And then call it an early day. People in east tennessee, maam, weve got teachers, single moms, beauticians, lawyers, policemen, firemen, people that actually work for a living that just cant believe this. And the amount of money were paid. So, yeah, its very dysfunctional right now, but were most of us are back. And i understand that appropriations is meeting in the morning. And i would hope that they would make it an early morning. So, do you think anything will actually get done in the next few days . Yes, maam. We actually we got some releaf in the whips meeting. My colleague matt gaetz, from florida, actually is really working very hard on an issue. And the problem weve had is voting on singleissue bills. You know, they put these crs, continued resolutions, and then say, were going to pass a continued resolution for 30 days. We need to pass this continued resolution so we can get off continued resolutions the next time. Well, thats like telling a Heroin Addict<\/a> were going to get you off heroin by giving you more heroin. It doesnt work. I dont like passing, as she says, passing something so you know whats in it. Thats exactly what an omnibus bill is. Itll be, say, 2,000 pages, and youll read down until you find funding and then you stop voting. Congressman, what youre talking about here and what the arguments have been about between you and your colleagues over not agreeing on this is a messaging bill. Because the spending cuts that republicans are fighting over so furiously have no chance of getting passed through the senate. So, what is the ultimate plan here . Yes, maam, i would flip that on you and say what the senate is working on has no chance of passing in the house. I mean, were supposed to be equal bodies. And i just dont buy that rationale, maam. We should be theres 435 of us, and granted we have our differences, but we are one of the three branches of government. So, i would hope that in the future, people would see that. I mean, thats a pretty Common Knowledge<\/a> thing. But still, i understand what youre saying, that theyre not going to pass what we want. When you negotiate, say, for instance, i pass a speed limit in tennessee, raise the speed limit. Steve cohen and i, of all people, passed the speed limit in tennessee. We asked for 85 and we took 70. In the beginning they were asking for a 1 cut. Like thats going to do anything when weve just passed the 33 trillion mark of debt, that we just continue to run up. And we do that by passing these continued resolutions. Now, though, were going to be able to vote on the individual appropriations. And lowe and behold, today they said, well vote on four of them. Even if you vote on those individual bills, are you going to be able to get all of that done, to the senate, have them send it back to you with their changes. As you were noting, its a negotiation here. Is that going to be able to be done by next sunday . Or do you think the government is going to shut down here . Why not . 24 hours of the day and we work about four of them up here and we walk out in our Brooks Brothers<\/a> suits with our coats over our shoulders and our sleeves rolled up, telling the American Public<\/a> weve worked when they know we havent. I would submit, lets work over the weekend. Are you saying that to other republicans . Yes, maam. Im not a member of congress. Are you saying that to Speaker Mccarthy<\/a> . Yes, maam. I tweeted about it. I have over 95,000 followers. And the other members are saying that just as well. And we made that very clear in the whip meeting with whip immerit this afternoon and guy reezen thaler, his number two man. I think leadership understands that and they understand our frustration. So, yes, maam, i would say thats a valid point, and its been taken by leadership. Ill just say im a little skeptical because mike johnson said the hardliners were i do want to ask you, former president is saying there should be a shutdown, you and your colleagues should not support it, apparently believing it will halt the special counsels prosecutions. Do you think he understands that a shutdown does not do that . It does not stop jack smiths investigations and ongoing prosecutions . No, maam. You have to do a specific amendment to the bill to do that, to do the hollman rule, i believe its called. It is where you take a specific line item and you can literally flatten out an office, which is used for people that have been in there for too long and that are abusive. Ive heard this the only people ive heard it from oddly enough are from reporters today. I was with the president a little over a month ago. Of course he never brought it up then. But i have not heard from him since then about that. So, i have no earthly idea if thats what his plan is. Well, he posted that, but you agree, a shutdown has nothing to do with jack smiths investigation . No, maam, i dont believe it does. It has to be specific, so i would watch the specific amendment to the bill to do all of that. We heard how frustrated Speaker Mccarthy<\/a> was earlier, saying the hardliners want to burn the house down, as he framed it. Do you believe he emerges with his job intact . I dont know. But i think thats a poor choice of words. We dont want to burn the house down. We just want to be fiscally sound. Thats what we ran for. Thats why i believe we received a very slim majority because we didnt push that out to the American Public<\/a> just the billions and billions of dollars were wasting daily. We sent out 140 billion to ukraine unchecked and the poor people in maui cant even get anything. And the people in pennsylvania after the chemical spill, theyre still waiting. And i think our priorities are out of whack. And i understand if we shut down do you support i have a questions. I have my doubts right now because im seeing we need leadership, maam. We dont need someone just to say weve got 218 votes or whatever that jumps on the train after it leaves the station. We need some people Speaker Pelosi<\/a>, for instance ill give you you know, i dont agree with her ever, hardly on anything, but she she was pretty successful in her and the way she did it was she put an issue out for caucus. She met with them. She figured out what they wanted. And then they put it on the floor and they passed it. And they rallied around it. A lot of work goes into that. Were not seeing that im not seeing that work right now. And its very disappointing to me. A rare compliment for a republican for Speaker Pelosi<\/a>. Shes a friend of mine. She has a granddaughter named isabella and i have a daughter named isabelle. And my daughter got hurt real bad on a horse, and Speaker Pelosi<\/a> is always asking me about her. I love to hear that. And we hope that your daughter is recovering well. Congressman, youve got a lot going on. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you so much for having me on, maam. Its been a pleasure, as always. And im joined now by New York Times<\/a> Senior Correspondent<\/a> Maggie Haberman<\/a> and former White House Communications<\/a> director, alyssa farah griffin. You worked on capitol hill during a time of, some would say chaos, when the Freedom Kaw Sus<\/a> was getting rid of speaker bainer. Have you ever seen anything like weve seen play out right now. For historic context, i was there one of the times of rule that was taken down by the Republican Party<\/a>. The tpa vote. This is an existential threat to Kevin Mccarthy<\/a>. You asked the question at the end, could anyone other than him get 218. A couple things to look at here, these fights from the right and i know these guys very well tend to be veiled as fiscal fights. This is about addressing deficits and budgets. I worked in the trump administration. We spent as much as most democratic administrations do. Often times its something a bit more partisan. I suspect what will ultimately end this, if anything does, will be some kind of a concession on the more political side, whether it has to do with more investigations, its empowering something on the oversight committee. I think for a handful of members like this gentleman, it is about spending. But for those driving it like gaetz i dont think it is. And frankly i dont know anyone can get 218, but Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> probably has the best Chance Holding<\/a> onto it. What do you make of trump weighing in on this saying republicans should not pass this shortterm bill, which Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> was trying to get republicans behind. He has this hope that it would affect his investigations, but as the congressman made clear, it would not. Its not going to. And i think realistically, donald trump has been told that by his advisers. He has done things that make things more complicated for Kevin Mccarthy<\/a>. Kevin mccarthy has done things that upset former President Trump<\/a>, including not endorsing him, which were aware of. I dont think its a surprise he is twisting the knife here. I think trump is much more aligned with these members, who alyssa correctly says, are talking about fiscal responsibility. Some of them clearly believe it, but many of them are talking about other things. This is a little different from some of the early todays of say the tea party when that first wave came in, when it was much more about spending. It has now become about all kinds of other things, and trump cares about all kinds of other things. Spending is theoretical. Hes not a fiscal conservative, shall we say. What was remarkable today and encapsulated, for people are its always chaotic on capitol hill. Watching republicans vote down their own Defense Spending Bill<\/a> for the second time we spoke to michael mccaw, hes said hes never seen that happen once. Youve got Tommy Tuberville<\/a> blocking pentagon promotions. The Republican Party<\/a> is quickingly looking like the antidefense party because of the fights on the hill. Government funding is one thing. Faa reauthorization is coming up, Farm Bill Reauthorization<\/a> is coming up next week. And if republicans shut down the government, their own impeachment inquiry, which is supposed to launch next week, wont be able to happen. Thats the one thing that makes me think the government might stay open. All this is happening while were watching the broader 2024 field. We heard from nikki haley today, who is doing better in some of our polls, shes in the race for second place. She obviously worked for trump and was commenting on him today. She said this about his legacy. He was the right president at the right time. He used to be good on foreign policy, and now he has started to walk it back and get weak in the knees when it comes to ukraine. He was thinskinned and easily distracted. Well, some things are true there and some were not. What she said about how he used to be strong about ukraine, that was a different period of time that i witnessed, anyway, during the impeachment battle, the first impeachment battle, which was about trump trying to withhold congressional funding to ukraine. I dont think anybody is taking issue with the characterization. I do think you are seeing nikki haley carve out an interesting space of separation from donald trump. You are correct that she is moving not just in New Hampshire<\/a> but in other states as well. The campaigns are all talking about it as well that she is a threat to desantis but shes a threat to anybody else in the nontrump lane. And she is look, she has a Delegate Line<\/a> to walk because she did serve him, because she did defend him any number of times. I think one of the things that is complicating for a lot of the folks in this current field, who have praised trump at various points, some of them very much so, like vivek ramaswamy, is trying to reconcile for voters what is different. But kaitlan, donald trump is not a different donald trump. And i think thats one of the things that is sounds inauthentic when these candidates are saying it. Thank you both for joining me on set. Ukraines president got a mixed reception on capitol hill today. Perhaps a taste of what it would be like if donald trump returns to power, as republicans in the house are turning their backs on more aid for his war. Plus, a Surprise Announcement<\/a> from one of the most powerful people in the media world. Rupert murdoch retiring. Thats. Im 65. And really smart later im 70ish. Consider a an aarp Medicare Supplement<\/a> Insurance Plan<\/a> from unitededhealthcare. With this type of plan, youll know upfront about how much your care c costs. Which makes planning your financial future easier. So call unitedhealthcare today to learn more about the only plans of their kind with the aarp name. And set yourself and your future self up with an aarp Medicare Supplement<\/a> plan from unitedhealthcare. Moderate to severe eczema still disrupts my skin. Despite treatment disrupts my skin with itch. It disrupts my skin with rash. But now, i can disrupt eczema with rinvoq. Rinvoq is not a sterd, topical, or injection. Its one pill, once a day. Many taking rinvoq saw clear or almostclear skin while some saw up to 100 clear skin. And, they felt dramatic and fast itch relief some as early as 2 days. Thats rinvoq relief. Rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. Serious infections and blood clots, some fatal, cancers including lymphoma and skin cancer, death, heart attack, stroke, and tears in the stomach or intestines occurred. People 50 and older with at least one Heart Disease<\/a> risk factor have higher risks. Dont take if allergic to rinvoq, as serious reactions can occur. Tell your doctor if you are or may become pregnant. Disrupt the itch and rash of eczema. Talk to your doctor about rinvoq. Learn how abbvie can help you save. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy<\/a> was in washington today pleading for more help, as his country is still facing an onslaught of new russian attacks. The white house announced a new aid package to the tune of 325 million, but there was a stark difference in zelenskyys reception than this time last year. This time there were no Cheering Crowds<\/a> or waving flags. He was just escorted through the halls by Senator Schumer<\/a> and mcconnell. This could be a Potential Foreshadowing<\/a> of whats to come if donald trump is erected and public skepticism of funding his war continues to grow. Senator, so glad you are joining me tonight. You were in that closed door meeting with president zelenskyy today. What was the most important thing that you heard from him . Well, the passion, the incredible work that he is doing to protect democracy, not just in ukraine but across the world. And let me tell you, there were two Standing Ovations<\/a> for him, kaitlan. The crowd was nearly all the senators, democrats and republicans, were there. I did not detect that gnawing away of support. I see a senate that passed with 86 of 100 senators voting for the defense bill. I see Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> and Chuck Schumer<\/a> standing together for ukraine. And then later this afternoon, at the archives, where no lost symbolism there, where the constitution, declaration of independence, you see president zelenskyy declaring that ukrainians are defending freedom and Global Security<\/a> every day and every night, and kids are there and soldiers without legs, children without haends, and th american doctors that have fixed them, that have made their lives better, that have given them prosthetics. It was very emotional, people were crying, and i saw every bit of emotion that i saw in the past, in fact stronger resolve, as we china is watching right now. We know that this scrappy Ukrainian Military<\/a> has taken back 50 of what this super power, russia, took away from them since the invasion began. So, i see momentum, and i see just incredible, incredible, Strong Spirit<\/a> in president zelenskyy that has guided his country through this. We see much more support for ukraine from the senate. You saw senator mcconnell today walking with Senator Schumer<\/a> and president zelenskyy. On the house side, its a different story. Speaker Kevin Mccarthy<\/a>, he avoided being seen in public with zelenskyy. We did see these photos of them together in private. But hes not committing to putting more aid for ukraine up for vote in the house. Obviously that would how the senate would deal with that is an open question. Do you think that congress is going to be able to get another aid package for ukraine passed . I do. I think you know that, as you just discussed on your panel there, that Speaker Mccarthy<\/a> has a lot going on. And he did say after the meeting, i heard reports that there were good things there. Youve got a number of republicans standing with ukraine. Yes, you have some people i would like to ask them to their faces, what do you think china is going to think if we withdraw . What are our allies going to think . This america leads and america stands with their friends and their allies. That is what this is about. And to see this juxtaposed with Tommy Tuberville<\/a> holding up hundreds and hundreds of military dominations, as our families sit in limbo, it does make me wonder, whose side are you on here. And i can tell you that democratic leadership is firmly on the side of our military, of our soldiers, and of Democracy For America<\/a> and across the world. Senator, on another note before you go i know this is something thats really important to you, given that last month we saw the white house list which drugs are going to be subject to the medicare negotiations. You were part of a brief in court over this issue. Do you think it will ultimately be successful here . I do. Basically 20 years ago, for some Reason Congress<\/a> agreed to pharma language that put in the Sweetheart Deal<\/a> in language that basically blocked negotiation on behalf of the nations seniors for less expensive drugs. As a result theyre paying 250 more for drugs. Under the president s leadership, ive lead this bill forever. We finally got it passed. First ten drugs announced, things like za rehl coe, januvia, eliquis. These drugs just last year just last year nine million americans forked out 3. 4 billion not million, billion dollars in outofpocket costs. This is, as the president says, a big fing deal. Youve got ten drugs out there. First its going to be 15 more, then 15 more. Youve got caps on insulin at 35 a month for seniors who want to expand it. Youve got outofpocket costs limited to 2,000 per year that youre going to see rolling out in 2025 under our legislation. And i cant wait to see President Biden<\/a> make that point in a debate. Everyone talked about bringing down pharma costs. He is doing it, and its democrats in the senate and the house that passed that bill. Weve heard a lot of f bombs dropped on capitol hill lately, senator. Thank you for censoring yours. I would always sensor. I was only quoting the president. Thank you. That makes it okay. Thanks so much, senator klobuchar. See you. Coming up next, he said he would never retire, but now Rupert Murdoch<\/a> is doing just that, hanging up his hat. And he has picked his successor, the Real Life Succession<\/a> tale may not necessarily be final. Well tell you more next. Ladies, lets go. Im hungry. Somedays, i cover up because of my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. Now i feel free to bare my skin, thanks to skyrizi. uplifting music nothing is everything im celebrating my clearer skin. My way. With skyrizi, 3 out of 4 people achieved 90 clearer skin at 4 months. In another study, most people had 90 clearer skin, even at 5 years. And skyrizi is just 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. Serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine, or plan to. Thanks to clearer skin with skyrizi this is my moment. Theres nothing on my skin and that means everything nothing is everything nows the time. Ask your doctor about skyrizi, the 1 dermatologistprescribed biologic in psoriasis. Learn how abbvie could help you save. Rupert murdoch, the chief of perhaps the most influential media empire in the world, is now stepping down. He announced today that his older son, Lachlan Murdoch<\/a> will serve as the sole chairman of both companies. This news sent shockwaves across the media and political spectrum. He said in a memo, quote, lachlan is absolutely committed to the cause. I want to bring in jim rutenberger, A Pult Zer Prize<\/a> winning journalist. Jim, did you see this coming . Well, Rupert Murdoch<\/a> is 92 years old. So, to some degree, i saw this coming eventually. I did not see it coming this morning. So, in that regard, it certainly was a surprise. Also, Rupert Murdoch<\/a> has always said hed leave his office feet first. Yeah. Hes talked about never retiring, and i think thats part of why this is surprising to people that follow him and watch him. Do you think it has to do with the fact this is coming after we saw the 787 million defamation suit coming, in addition to what they saw with dominion. Is any of this a factor in why hes stepping down now . I have had no indication, and none of our reporting is showing, per se, that dominion was a factor. Obviously that was an awful moment for the company, the lawsuit, obviously the coverage that got them into that trouble. And there is a pending lawsuit. But his decision to retire will not affect the lawsuit in that Rupert Murdoch<\/a> would still have to testify. He still was in charge. So it doesnt get him out of any future legal issues that are still pending for the company. I think him putting his oldest son, Lachlan Murdoch<\/a> in charge here, there are questions about what does the future of fox look like. Hes twoonone who has criticized trump in the past. They fired Tucker Carlson<\/a> of course not too long ago. What is the future of fox, for people who are wondering, with this change tonight . Right now i would not expect change. So far, all indications are that Lachlan Murdoch<\/a> believes in continuity. Hes always defended the position of the network writ large. Now, but theres one thing that i am very interested in seeing after covering this company and this family for 20 years, Lachlan Murdoch<\/a> has never been running the company outside his fathers shadow. This is, for now, at least Lachlan Murdoch<\/a>s company. Its his chance to put a stamp on it. I, for one, am eager to see what that will look like. Given the influence at the company, its more than mere curiosity. It will be very important for American Politics<\/a>. You said, for now, at least. Whats your speculation on the timing for what this could look like and how long he could be there . Well, theres a show on hbo called succession. There is theres a looming succession battle within the family in that Rupert Murdoch<\/a> long ago set some terms, dealing with the day he dies. And when he dies, he said it would be up to his four eldest children to duke it out amongst themselves in terms of whos going to be in control of the Company Going<\/a> forward. He, rupert, has clearly put his thumb on the scale for lachlan. Lachlan has the job for now. This solidifies the company there are many and two that matter the most under lachlan. However, there could be a fight with his other siblings. His brother, james, whos now outside the company, has been seen as someone who may rally his two other siblings, two sisters, to outvoc lachlan, should that day come to pass. Rupert murdoch is 92. It should be said that his mother died shortly before her 104th birthday. What else are you going to be watching . What is the biggest impact that this is going to have, do you believe . Well, i will be watching what it means, for one, in terms of 2024. Will Lachlan Murdoch<\/a> play the out front role that his father played in American Politics<\/a> and Global Politics<\/a> . You mentioned just a minute ago that lachlan had his qualms about former President Trump<\/a>, but former President Trump<\/a> is still very popular with the fox base. If they stay true to form, under lachlan, the network will go where the ratings are. Will lachlan do Something Different<\/a> . Again, not expected, but we dont know what thats going to look like. And, again, to me, thats a huge question thats about more than this company. Major questions. Jim rutenberg, thank you for covering it and joining us tonight. Thanks so much. President biden, meanwhile, sending hundreds more troops to the border, as migrants there are overwhelming the texas town of eagle pass tonight. There are stunning scenes playing out, little children crawling through razor wire. The former Homeland Security<\/a> secretary will talk to us next about the crisis, what can the solutions be. Thats next. Old school wisdom, with a passion for whats possible. Thats what you get from the Morgan Stanley<\/a> client experience. You get listening more than talking, and a personalized plan built on insights and innovative technology. You get grit, vision, and the creativity to guide you through a changing world. They slept on me for 15 years. Things i collected, pollen, dust, dander. All that time they could have protected me with an allerease mattress protector. It wouldve been soft and blocked 99. 9 of dust, dirt, and allergens. Allerease for a clean, healthy nights sleep. Tonight, up to 800 active duty troops are headed to the southern border, as the mayor of eagle pass, texas, has now declared a state of emergency. Thousands of migrants have been attempting to cross the rio grande, a journey that is so risky, a 3yearold has drowned. A source told cnn some 3,000 migrants crossed into the u. S. Near eagle pass just on wednesday alone. The mayor is clearly frustrated tonight and also calling out President Biden<\/a>. I believe 100 he does bear some responsibility for this crisis. Nobody has bothered to call me, anyone in the city staff saying, hey, this is the federal government. We know what youre going through, were worried about you, this is our plan of action. Nothing. I should note, even thick razor wire thats along the border has not been deterring people from crossing, as people are desperately fleeing poverty and persecution. Small children, as you can see here, through the wire. Joining me now is the former undersecretary under president obama. Mr. Secretary, thank you for being here. I want to talk about what are the potential solutions to fix this. When you hear that news that a 3yearold was killed making this journey, what goes through your mind . First, kaitlan, i think its important to remember that the people at the center of this storm, the migrants, are almost all helpless, harmless people, who are desperate for a better life in america. They live in the most impoverished, violent regions of our planet and are desperate to get here, even if it means making a dangerous journey like the one you just described. So, the administration, the biden administration, in may, got a break. They were very effective in delivering a message that theres a right way and a wrong way to come here. And they emphasized that at the end of title 42. And the numbers fell off dramatically in may, just when everybody thought the numbers would go up dramatically. My take on this whole thing and i learned this lesson when i was in office managing this problem myself is that illegal immigration reacts sharply and quickly to information about perceived changes in our Enforcement Policy<\/a> here. But and heres the big but so long as the underlying push factors persist in places like venezuela, guatemala, honduras, haiti, cuba, the numbers are going to always revert back to longer term trend lines. So, the numbers are now up again. There was Something Like<\/a> 177,000 crossings in july. I heard Something Like<\/a> 140,000 so far in kept. So, we need to address the underlying push factors. Otherwise were going to continue to be banging our heads against the wall administration after administration after administration. Theyre going to keep coming, and theres no level of defense or wall or barbed wire that will prevent that, unfortunately. Im glad you brought that up, because what weve heard from the department of Homeland Security<\/a>, which you used to run, is that in the next three months, 800 additional troops are going to be there helping National Guard<\/a> members with things like ground base detection, data entry, transportation, but not ep forcement itself. Is that enough . Correct. The u. S. Military in this country does not engage in domestic law enforcement. The most they can do is support the border patrol, support the department of Homeland Security<\/a> in its Frontline Border<\/a> security mission. So, given the numbers that we face, its not enough. Its never going to be enough. Were going to have to deal with the underlying factors tl. There are aspects of our Immigration Policy<\/a> that do serve as magnets. The wait time for an asylum claim, for example, is contributing to this problem. And i dont see this problem going away any time soon, as long as there is this Political Polarization<\/a> in washington that prevents addressing the longerterm problem. There are solutions to this problem, kaitlan, but they are politically unobtainable, as long as the factions in washington are so deeply divided about this issue. Yeah, i mean, House Republicans<\/a> arent even passing spending bills, much less coalescing on immigration. And one of the places that were seeing this play out is right here in new york city. There is a feud with the governor, with the citys mayor, with the white house. They are all pointing the finger at each other. I know you met with mayor adams on monday. Did you give him any advice . I did meet with mayor adams on monday. He sees a very big problem in his midst. The largest, most powerful city in the country cannot absorb 100,000 new people in its population in eight months. It is blowing a big hole, A Billion Dollar<\/a> hole, in his budget. He needs the help of the federal government. You know, we at the federal level like to say that Immigration Policy<\/a> is primarily the role of the federal government. That is true. The federal government, therefore has, in my view, an obligation to help cities and communities in the interior deal with this problem once these migrants cross the border and are here. What should they be doing differently . What does the administration need to do to help new york and other cities that are dealing with this . Dhs announced just in the last 24 hours or so that it is granting temporary Protective Status<\/a> for venezuelans that will help them get Work Authorizations<\/a> quicker, put them to work, contribute to the tax base. But more broadly, places like new york, l. A. , chicago, need money. They need resources to provide shelter, to help out, to absorb this. New york city is facing a major, major Budget Deficit<\/a> because of this crisis, where they need to fund other things like public safety. So, my hope is that the federal government will step up and help these cities that are absorbing this problem in the interior of our nation. Well see if that changes. I know the city officials are deeply concerned about it. Former home less than secretary jeh johnson, thank you for taking the time to join us tonight. Thank you. 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Reporter she is dedicated to telling the stories of afghan women. In fact, she started the very first website that was for women and by women, only the way her journalists work now is dramatically different since the talibans return. Afghan is not safe for a moment for journalists. Reporter i have been covering afghanistan since before 911 when the taliban was first in charge. For five years the religious Police Issued<\/a> a series of edicts against women, banning them from wearing makeup, wearing high heels, banning them from work, from education. But the restrictions and draconians crackdowns on women are just as bad now, perhaps worse than two decades ago. Afghan women are afraid that this is the beginning of your efforts to erase them from the work space. You have a long experience defying the taliban. You were in afghanistan the first time they came. Yes. How did you get around their bans on Girls Education<\/a> . So i wear boys clothes and i went with my two uncles to school. I lived in a village, two hours going to school and back. Reporter it was so important to you even as a young kid that you were willing to take on that hardship. Exactly. Education changed my life. All of the people who are interviewing, and my colleagues, all of them are anonymous because of their safety. We cant guarantee the safety of our journalists. Reporter what would happen if they were caught . What is the punishment . If the taliban arrest them im sure they will be tortured, imprisoned, and maybe they will be killed. Reporter are they scared . Of course. Reporter and yet they keep doing it. They are very brave. Reporter zareh told me The Story Of A Mother<\/a> who was living in such desperate poverty she was ready to sell one of her children in order to have the others survive. We finally published the story. Our audience, they came to us and reach out to us and said, we want to support and help this mother. Reporter that is really powerful. She had to flee kabul when the taliban took over in 2021 and she ended up here in london trying to form a new community but still dedicated to driving positive change in her home country. That exchange of uplifting stories as well as sad stories, at least that is happening. So even if youre somewhere in afghanistan where there is absolutely zero access to education you still will be able to read this and get a sense of what your sisters are going through. Reporter do you ever hope, believe youll be able to return home . I really miss my country. Shes got this really almost infectious ambition and drive. So is so strong. She is so committed to what she believes in. Such a special story and to see her still doing her work. You can tune in saturday, 8 00 p. M. Eastern. The entire Champions For Change<\/a> onehour special will air right here on cnn. In the meantime, hollywood has been on its heels for months. Writers and producers on strike. Some of your favorite tv shows off of air. Tonight an agreement may finally be near. We have an update, next. My philosophy is try to be the hero of somebodys day. To me its the powerful moments you create with somebody and you see it in their eyes or their smile. It is making a difference. Were not an airline, but our Network Connects<\/a> global businesses across nearly 160 markets. Were not a startup, but our Innovation Labs<\/a> use new technologies to help keep your information secure. Were not architects, but we help build stronger communities. Were not just any bank. We are citi. My cholesterol is borderline. So i take garlique to help maintain healthy cholesterol safely and naturally. And its odor free. Im taking charge of my cholesterol with garlique. There were major meetings today that might be good news for your favorite tv shows. The Writers Guild<\/a> and top Studio Bosses<\/a> sat down for talks to potentially end their strike. Todays negotiations included the ceos of netflix, disney, and warner brothers. Discovery which is of course the Parent Company<\/a> here at cnn. It is a second straight day of sit down meetings to end the walkout and a source told cnn both sides left the meeting feeling encouraged. Any deal of course would still need to be ratified by the actual Union Members<\/a> and then the major studios could turn their attention to the actors union which is also still on strike tonight. Even an agreement with just the Writers Guild<\/a> could mean the return of some talk shows. Weve seen that in the news this week not just day time but also late night. Well see how it goes and keep you updated. 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