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Explosions have been reported, not far from a Military Airbase in the province of isfahan and central around according to irans Fars News Agency Defense Systems on the base where activated in response to what may have been a drone attack targeting the basis radar, the city of this hand is believed to be home to around Illicit Nuclear Weapons Program as well as the countrys Biggest Nuclear research facility, which operates three Small Chinese supplied Research Reactors or flights to its for Hand Tehran Entrez have been, have resumed rather are doing suspended for several hours according to a spokesperson for around airports, one us official confirmed to cnn and israeli strike inside around adding the target was not nuclear and israel informed the white house on thursday and attack was just days away. Ready Officials Say air Defense Systems in several regions were activated and the Explosions Heard Isfahan were outgoing fire from those air defenses well, for the very latest, cnns Nic Robertson are standing by live in jerusalem, but were going first to cnns Paula Hancocks in beirut important for days tehran has been warning of an instance severe response to even the slightest Israeli Attack. But now it seems that may not happen. Whats the latest . Well, john we certainly been hearing certain torque from matt from the uranian sayyed. I mean, just a, few hours ago on cnn, the Iranian Foreign minister saying that if there is an israeli response so if they do Target Assets in iran, then there would be a response that it would be immediate and at a maximum level saying it a little be decisive. And this is really the message that we have been hearing over recent todays be heard it from president raisi as well, saying that if there was an attack on iranian assets than it would be a more severe reaction than what we saw last saturday that unprecedented attack from iran with over 300 drones and missiles launched at israeli territory so if you take it at face value i mean, we certainly have heard to her and say there will be a significant response but what were also seeing from state media, from Semi Official State Media in iran is that theyre almost downplaying what has happened. They are saying there has been no grand explosion. Theyre saying that the Nuclear Facilities are completely secure. The very no impact on the ground so potentially laying the groundwork for this to be something acceptable for tehran. So thats really the question when you ask whats coming next from tehran, its we have to try and figure out what tehran is able to live with. Now they say that what they did, that unprecedented into the attack last weekend, saturday into sunday morning. That was in response to an attack on its diplomatic compound in damascus. And they said fairly quickly afterwards, in fact, as the attack was still on im going, the matter is concluded. They wanted to respond. And as far as they were concerned, and that was it. Now, of course, that wasnt the case for israel. They didnt feel that they could leave that so dented attack. An answered the question now is whether or not iran will feel that this was a low level enough attack or strike from israel that they are able to not necessarily ignore it, but not feel the need to retaliate a pulse. It is still early days. We dont know exactly what was hit if anything was hit, what for target was and potentially we will hear more about that in the hours ahead. John paul, stay with us. Lets go to the Nic Robertson in jerusalem for a moment. Nick, is there anywhere from the israelis on precisely what they hit . What do we know about the attack and the fact that it was limited and what are they saying about any possible iranian response . No details from the israelis. What we have on the attack is defined by what were hearing and seeing on Iranian State me pedia and other iranian media media, what im hearing from a regional intelligence source, who will be close to the thing king of what the iranians are likely to do the takeaway of the moment is that this is below the threshold around requirement to respond despite what weve heard them say publicly. And this would seem to indicate that the pressure should it has been put on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by President Biden and others. We heard from the British Foreign secretary, the German Foreign secretary here this week that they didnt want israel to escalate the situation, although the British Foreign secretary saying he did understand that israel would respond and Prime Minister here it said, clearly that israel would do what it sees fit i think the situation were in at the moment and the best read we have reading between the lines of how iran has played this through the whole night and what im hearing from, from a wellplaced source who would understand situation that at the moment caveats, of course things may change israel made decided its got another volley to go, though that seems unlikely. It does seem that that this current escalation between israel and iran may be this bit of it. On a pause that said lets not forget that irans proxy hezbollah is just to the north in lebanon. And that has been recently for many months, but recently has been the real uptake across that border in terms of fire and many Israeli Soldiers injured just this week, that border, i think well perhaps come ten you to be as active, maybe not quite as active as the past couple of days so the difference between israel and iran, and not gone away. But this escalation that may be on hold reprieved on a resolution, i guess so, but nick, is there any indication why israeli showed a restraint was limited strike by all accounts. Give me that on wednesday, netanyahu said to the european leaders who were there, thanks for the advice, but no thanks. Well do what we have to do. Theres pressure been put on israel. We know that when President Biden called up Prime Minister netanyahu, just over twoandahalf weeks ago when several a Member Members of the world Central Kitchen were killed in an israeli in a number of israeli drone strikes inside of gaza as they were trying to deliver food that pressure was actually had a result. The israeli started putting more aid into gaza. They opened a crossing into northern gaza. Now, theres a long way to go on that, but it shows that us Pressure Pain hes off to a degree and i think that pressure it seems as we understand, as exerted by the, by the white house on this, on Prime Minister netanyahu, not to escalate quite clearly, President Biden publicly saying that he was not the United States was not going to take part in offensive action against against iran theres some context that put here israel misjudged irans response to the strike on the consulate in damascus they didnt think that they were crossing a red headline. Iran thought they did cross a red line. And i asked a former very Senior Intelligence official here why he thought that iran had decided to respond and his assessment and this was backed up by a conversations ive had with the same former senior official earlier this year was that iran, a previously had been afraid of a us and israeli response on iranian territory if they strike directly inside of, inside of israel. Now, the perception seems to be from iran that they see a weakness, a pressure a gap between President Biden and Prime Minister netanyahu and the internal political pressures on Prime Minister netanyahu because of the way that is fighting the fight in gaza at the moment, because so many palestinians are being killed and the sensors that iran fell hope that it could exploit this weakness of the Prime Minister so the question was always going to be, could the Prime Minister actually judge engage irans new red lines . Correctly . Maybe today were looking at a picture where he has, but the dynamic in the region and the reader, the red lines for both sides has changed, has changed because Prime Minister netanyahu is perceived as being weaker slowly, he needs us support as we saw at the weekend to defend the country against iran strikes. Nick, thank you back now to paula in beirut very quickly. What do we know about this target that the israelis apparently may have attacked . Its for hannah is home to the nuclear complex research center, as well as intense nuclear reactor. So this is the very heart of around elicit nuclear program. And yet the american say the target was not nuclear thats right, thats what can has been told by a us officials that it wasnt a nuclear target, did appears. It may have been rionda, an army base. Were hearing that from from the Iranian State media side. Now there is some speculation that this could be proof that israel can reach that particular area. A very sensitive area for iran if need be. Now this would play into the narrative of whether this it was more just demonstrative than trying to destroy something that just a show of power that israel is able to reach deep into a rainy and territory and of course, theres been this shadow war over years, decades between israel and iran. There have been suspected israeli strikes on it individuals certainly the the Nucleus Scientists that have been assassinations, there have been sabotaged facilities, none of which israel has admitted to, but iran has a use them all. So this is really the first time that we are seeing this more direct response from israel, which is in keeping with what we saw from a ram, the direct territory to territory attack. So potentially, it wasnt it wasnt too destroy something. We had a us official telling cnn as well that they thought it was possible that israel would try and carry out an attack and make sure they were no casualties but just more fought for show to show that they can reestablish the sense of the text hello, thank you. Pull the hancocks life for us in beirut and also Nic Robertson lifers in jerusalem. This out, thanks to you both could now lot to tehran and abbas has lani, a journalist and Senior Research fellow at the center for middle east strategic studies. As i think hes being with us thank you, john, for having me. Its a pleasure now how i just from your point of view, hows this story being reported then given the governments tight control over the media, is that indicative of where the government actually stands right now in trying to play down this story well, john, what weve been hearing here in iranian cities or capital is that there has not been a significant, or at least any foreign meaning is really strike against iranian targets and what has been said so far is that some an unidentified flying objects or small towns have been intercepted by iran different system and in iran, the feeling is that israel is trying to save face by exerting a Media Campaign pain, or psychological operation against iran in a way that to avoid an escalation. And this could be maybe a paved the way out of this Escalatory Situation in order to put an end to this titfortat process. In recent days. So the early leaders have warned that any Israeli Attack would trigger a swift and severe yet response are very public about that, saying it almost every day all amping up the rhetoric almost every day how do they walk that back now it doesnt seem to be worked back now because there has been no confirmation of this attacks so far. And it seems that this is somehow similar to sabotage acts in the past us that israelis have been trying to do, again, some iranian targets. And now theyre saying that they have been able to intercept some flying objects on the sky. But what is important for iran is to maintain that deterrence equation because you run in terms of the scale of its retaliatory operation against israel used hundreds of missiles and drones. And this is somehow comparable to what, even if there was a limited action today with the friday mornings incident so this doesnt seem to be changing that balance and this is quite important for you on but this somehow is interpreted in tehran as israel trying to save face. But not to engage in an insignificant direct conflict with iran. Yeah, thats the point because Us Intelligence and others have been warning while now, anybody indicating that a random not want a war with israel, although it was okay with escalating and just wanted to stay away from a direct confrontation. So in many ways, is a sense of relief in tehran that theyll give them this offramp by the israelis while in the past days, we have been seeing that the ron trying to have a Turning Point in its engagement with israel for the first time, it tried to directly act against israeli targets. But there was a chance that this might provoke a response from israeli sayyed. But i think if there is no clear and visible or significant if this strike was not on the israeli sayyed, this Cannot Change that equation for me, renin perspective so thats important for iran to stop any, lets say significance strike against. He ran an interest in the region so by the time that this is in place, i think we might be see a way out of this relation. But we have to wait again for more updates in the coming hours or days and its a bit early to judge that if its over or not, but the moment that we are speaking, i think it doesnt seem to be a rich, a regional war emerging, but however, even little, the chances are there yet in The Grand Scheme of things, its often difficult to gauge a Public Opinion but is this a conflict which is driven by the hardliners and the elites within the government who won much tougher stance on israel some of the general Public Opinion on all of this, it seems far more concerned about the economy and us sanctions and wanting a better life john, when it comes to external pressure or rats, or even when its Military Threat it is mostly the case that brings people rally, rally around the flag and that was a kind of let see, mostly a National Pride for iran to respond to israel the operation which happened few days ago, whether they liked the Government Policies or not. But when it comes to the security issue, many people would support that because they think that this can work as a determines preventing further Israeli Attacks in features sometimes that if yvonne didnt respond sooner or later, maybe in future, there would be there could be war but they could see this somehow stopping that process thats why they somehow supported that response. And also thats the matter of the National Pride and whether they are reformed Missile Conservatives critical support of the government because thats the issue of the security they have been mostly supportive of irans action against israel bustos lonnie in tehran. We appreciate you being with us, so thank you. Thank you, john for having me on. Youre welcome. Take care much more ahead, including regional reaction and impact on oil prices. What morehead stay with us theres new ally in the fight against climate change. This is new car is blue carbon we just need to protect. Nature will do the rest. 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