The u. S. In a key period. Id like to say everything is great by thanksgiving but honestly im not sure so sure it is. Ill ask Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchinson ahead. Hello, im jake tarp in washington. The state of our union is stunned by the recklessness. The president s doctors cleared him saying he has met the cdc criteria to leave isolation and is no longer considered a transmission risk to others, unquote. The doctor said the president is ten days from the onset of symptoms and feverfree more than 24 hours. The doctor did not disclose whether the president is off all feverreducing medications and symptomfree and whether the president tested negative for the virus. That is not part of the criteria to leave isolation but still important information. On that subject we still do not know when the president last tested negative before catching the virus and potentially spreading it. The doctors letter came hours after the president delivered a speech to crowded supporters on the south lawn largely Wearing Masks, thankfully, but they were packed together. The president telling the virus is, quote, sgapg whidisappearin is far from the truth. 23 days to the election the president seems to be scrambling and return to Campaign Rallies tomorrow despite the recent outbreak in his campaign and white house and sending capitol hill and markets reeling over message a new coronavirus stimulus package. Joining me to talk about that package is the top academic adviser for the president is larry kudlow. Good to see you. To counter the democrats 2. 2 trillion dollar proposal, treasury secretary mnuchin offered another proposal and 20 senators blasted that as a betrayal, death nail. 23 days from election day. Is the stimulus deal dead . I dont think it is at all. I spoke to secretary mnuchin last evening. Look. Dont forget, republicans in the senate put up their own bill a few weeks ago and got 53 votes, i think it was. So they united. I think if an agreement can be reached, they will go along with it. Look. The issue here and i dont understand this. My democratic friends Speaker Pelosi and so forth, we are asking for some targeted areas of assistance that would help this recovery. It is a vshaped recovery but there are key areas that it could help. One, lets add on to unemployment assistance. The president s executive order is not going to go forever. Two, everybody, i mean, everybody in the world want additional loans to Small Business. They will be forgivable loans the called ppe program. Those are things that everybody absolutely wants. Number three, the president is in favor of direct mail checks to provide, again, more temporary economic assistance. We are in a very strong rebound and i hope we get to that late. The fact these are simple things. They have bipartisan support. We could do it standalone bills or omnibus bill or whatever. I do not understand from my democratic friends. Im not talking about your democratic friends but 20 republicans who were mad at secretary mnuchin saying the proposal of 8. 12 trillion was too much and called it a death nail. I think that was senator blackburn from tennessee calling it that. You have to get something through the house and the senate going forward. Are you willing to pass a relief bill without a support without support from a majority of Senate Republicans . In other words, you get the majority of democrats in the house, you get democrats in the senate and maybe 10 or 20 republicans in the senate and then it goes to the president s desk, would he be willing to sign that . Well, look. I dont want to get into the specific legislative strategy, jake, but i will say from the president s remarks late last week, he is happy on the key targeted areas that i mentioned, Small Business loans, unemployment and so forth. He would actually go beyond some of the democratic numbers. Maybe not the entire package but the key targeted areas that would truly help the recovery, by the way, get kids back to school and reopen businesses. I think if we could get this thing settled on a democrat side, we will get it settled on the republican side. There will still be further efforts in negotiation perhaps today but certainly this coming week. So i dont think we really ds are holding this thing up. Look. Its a question of not so much the election per se. I know this is a political season, i get that, its just getting americans through a difficult period of time. We have seen a flood of blockbuster improvement numbers across the board on the economy but there is really no reason why we cant add to that with some additional assistance in the next three months and i think you can get a deal. Im not saying its easy. Secretary mnuchin, very dear friend of mine, as you know, hes a very good negotiator and see what he and Speaker Pelosi come up with. You agree a stimulus package needs to pass . There needs to be one, right . Youre hoping to do it in the next three weeks . I dont think, jake i dont want to parse. But i dont think the recovery it dependent on it. Look. No what the fed chair says. We have job increases fed chair essentially i think is saying the same thing, targeted assistance would be a good idea. We have seen numbers across the board. Just in the fast week. Booming housing starts. Supply managers for manufacturing and for services. We have seen automobiles surging. We have seen manufacturing. Right. We think we created a new 700,000 jobs in manufacturing. These are really strong numbers. Inventories have to be rebuilt. Mark zandi of moodys says if a stimulus bill isnt passed soon, the country is going to start shedding jobs again. Well, mark is a friend of mine but he is always a nay sayer when it comes to republican policies. I will say this. The atlanta feds gp mile is showing 35 for the third quarter. That is a big number. Blue chip consensus, private blue chip forecasters, i think, moved up to 29 . We would be thrilled with plus 20 in the second half of the year. We are are in a strong rebound. Lower taxes and lower regulations going way back are still in place and businesses are reopening. We are learning to deal with the virus in a targeted safe prevented way. Its not dependent. All im saying is some targeted assistance wrote go a long way right now. We are not learning with the virus, larry. We had four days in a row of 50,000 infection answers td the rate in the highest in the world. Lets focus on your area of expertise. One second, jake. Living with the virus. Look. 5,000 experts just signed a petition led by people from harvard, stanford, oxford university. These are scientists, these are doctors, Health Care Workers who say we can deal with this virus going on while we are getting new therapies, we are getting new vaccines are coming around. Its not just living with the virus. As long as we protect the most vulnerable, as long as we preserve the key guidelines, yes, we can get through this. We are not going to shut down the whole economy. There is no reason for that. We will take care of the vulnerable. That is the key point. So much you just said. I had you on to talk about the economy and not health care matters. Obeying by the key guidelines you might want to tell the guy in the building behind you but a separate issue. Lets talk about President Trump and the stimulus package. President trump has been all over the map on his position. He halted talks completely. But then i want you to take a listen what the president said on friday about the size of this stimulus bill. I would like to see a bigger stimulus package, frankly, than either the democrats or the republicans are offering. He wants a bigger package. Speaker pelosi is offering 2. 2 trillion dollar deal and the package wants a bigger package than that. Are secretary mnuchin now try to offer a bigger deal than 2. 2 trillion dollar proposal . He may. He may. Secretary mnuchin is up to 1. 8 trillion. So the bid and the offer is narrowing somewhat between the two sides. President trump has ive heard him say it in the oval as far as the key elements are concerned, the checks, the unemployment assistance, the Small Business assistance and help airlines out, he would go further and always said that. He knows that we need as much power for economic recovery as possible. Its not Just Recovery in three weeks. Its recovery to the end of the year and beyond in a possible second term. So i think secretary mnuchin is very good negotiator and will be carrying the president s message. But, larry, a consultant to an adviser to Senate Majority leader mcconnell told the post owe any deal between 2. 2 trillion and mnuchin 1. 8 and pa locally 2. 2 trillion and you think the two will have a proposal of more than 2. 2 trillion. Mcconnells aide says they think there will only be ten republican votes in the senate for anything in the neighborhood of 2 trillion. How do you pass it . That tis the question. Youve already lost most of the republicans in the senate. I dont know who we have lost. A lot of commentatry. I will now say this is okay and that is not okay. That is mr. Mnuchins role and mark meadows who is also an excellent negotiator. Im saying we are putting our best foot forward on the table. We passed a republican bill in the senate already. Now we have raised the ante. We are not not talking about fixing Pension Funds and harvesting mail ballots or assistance to Illegal Immigrants that have nothing to do with the covid or the economy. Lets see what happens. Im not negotiating today. Hundred dollars of people not social distancing on the white house lawn yesterday but they were Wearing Masks. I want you to listen to this. The data speak for themselves. We had a super spreader event in the white house and it was in a situation where people were crowded together and were not Wearing Masks so the data speak for themselves. President trump said he may have contracted the virus at big events at the white house. But he is hitting the campaign trail now. How is this not a risk to the health if not lives of your own supporters . Well, look. On that big do in the white house lawn, the operations people signed off on it. I have Great Respect for dr. Tony fauci who is a longtime friend of mine. Im not the medical scientist. Here is what i know. As you said at the top, today, dr. Sean conley or last night released a document that said the president is healthy, he has abided by the cdc, he is no longer contagious. I think that fits the bill. I have not seen the president in the last few days. I have spoken to him on the phone. A lot of people have been with him said he is fine, he is peppy, he has been smart again and he really is in healthy condition. So it seems like the conditions are being met. And he will go on ahead im concerned about his supporters health. Youre in connecticut. I understand. As somebody who likes you and wants you to live a long, long life i hope you stay safe but i dont know if the people at the white house are as concerned about people who work at the white house and trumps own supporters as i am. Its not safe to have big rallies. W i appreciate it, jake, what you said earlier. That is very kind. Look. There will be masks at these rallies. There will be social distancing at these rallies. There will be appropriate testing. A lot of these places you get tested on the way in. Most of all we have to stick to the hygiene issues, washing your hands and face and so forth. These things can be done. We can do that. And that is what the experts have said and why i wanted to raise that great barington compromise documents that needs to see the light of day like 5,000 people are basically saying what im saying. I can he can go through with it. You know his message. We got to go, larry. Abundance, optimism. Low taxes and low regulations. I get it. Will survive this economy and he did it once and will do it a second time. Larry, stay safe and healthy. Thank you. Hearings will start tomorrow and ill ask what to expect from a democratic senator who refused to meet with judge Amy Coney Barrett. And the question that joe biden is refusing to answer. Can he keep that up through election day . A top member of his Campaign Team is here next. Etwork, include the best in entertainment, and offer plans to mix and match starting at 35. Plus, get two Samsung Galaxy s20 fe 5g phones for 200 when you switch. Only at verizon. fisherman vo ce how do i register to vote . Ential election. Hmm . Hmm . 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The second debate was cancelled after the Trump Campaign refused to participate in a town hall where the candidates would participate remotely and trump team instead proposed pushing back bobblith debates in weeks they could be held in person. Your campaign rejected that. I get that trump is being erratic but shouldnt biden bend over backwards to see the two candidates go headtohead . We agreed to three debates in june. Our campaign and Donald Trumps campaign. We have said that joe biden will show up on those days we agreed to. We are not going to let donald trump whipsaw around at the last second trying to rewrite the rules. We had every intention of showing up on the 15th. He, donald trump, refused to participate in a virtual town hall so we instead scheduled a National Network town hall so joe biden can take questions from voters and we have every intention and every expectation that we will be there on the 22nd as well. We are not going to let donald trump write the rules. He doesnt get to set the calendar. The Debate Commission sets the calendar. We all agreed to these dates in june and we are not letting him try to rewrite the rules at the last second. He pulled out of the debate on the 15th. Its understandal. He doesnt want to answer questions from the voters about his handling much covid and the economy. Joe biden will be there and on the 22nd and take questions from voters. October 22nd is the second debate in nashville. You told me the other day that you are trusting the Cleveland Clinic and the commission on president ial debates to ensure that everyone at the next debate tests negative before entering the arena. To be candid, they had that responsibility at the last debate too and we still dont know if the president was tested at all that day or in the previous week. Just to be clear here, youre not going to demand personally the campaign, the Biden Campaign to see proof of a negative test from President Trump before Vice President biden goes on stage with him . You trust the commission, you trust the Cleveland Clinic . Well, we demand that the Cleveland Clinic and that the Commission Work that out. Obviously, it is extremely troubling what happened at the first debate. And our expectation, our demand of the Cleveland Clinic and of the commission is that the Trump Campaign and everybody that they are bringing to the debate, you know, shows proof that they are negative. We will let the Cleveland Clinic and the Commission Work out exactly how that works but, obviously, we are not interested in creating another moment where there is a potential for the spread of this virus. We have seen, unfortunately, look at the event at the white house on september 26th. We have seen what happens when the appropriate precautions are not put in place and its tragic. Given how opaque this white house has been about Health Information related to the president and everybody around him, we are demanding unequivocally of the Cleveland Clinic and Debate Commission they work out protocols to ensure that everybody who is at that debate is safe