Rudy giuliani will be here in moments. Plus, tense anniversary, after last years violent protests in charlottesville. White supremacists gear up to march to the white house today. The man who was virginias governor back then may be preparing to take on trump. You would have to sell tickets to that debate. Terry mcauliffe will be here next. Lesson learned . One year after his kmentsz on charlottesville. You had people that were very fine people, on both sides. The president now tweets he condemns all types of racism, just what is he striing to sign signal. Im jake tapper, the state of our union is kind of confused. Marks one year since the deadly rally in charlottesville. You might expect an american president to speak forcefully against racism with white nationalists preparing to march to the white house, his house this very evening. The riots in charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and peace to all americans. All americans, critics of the that echos the phrase from last year when he blamed violence on both sides and reluck tans to condemn white sprem cysts, a stark contrast, there is no place for neonaziism in our great interest and contrast with the forceful take down of his own attorney general, calling Jeff Sessions scared stiff and missing in action as the president s legal team is locked in intense negotiations with the special counsel over whether the president will sit for an interview as part of the ongoing russia investigation. Thursday night he dined with rudy giuliani. Thanks for joining me, we appreciate it. Theres been a lot of news about the back and force whether theres going to be an invut. I want to play the rationale why you dont want the president to be questioned by his dealing with then fbi director james comey. Were working him into a perjury trap, who they would credit namely comey. They have indicated to us even in our discussions pressure for these other people how exactly has the mueller team led you to believe they have a preference for comey, that they would side with him. What did they say . First of all, they havent talked i havent talked to him in two months and this goes back two months ago. It goes back to conversations they had can john, john dowd who i talked to several times a week. Weve interviewed to give you a prover. Well tell them the president s answers to everything. They already know them, flynn, the president said he never told comey that he should go easy on flynn. Co comey says the president did. Well put that aside, if we ever had a trial i dont think we will. If he goes in and testifies to that under oath instead of just this being a dispute, they can say its perjury if they elect to believe comey instead of trump they show know who they believe. You indicated they already side with tommy. What have they said to lead you to that impression . Ener not willing to tell us what their purpose is for asking the question since they know the answer. Weve been doing this a long time, jay and i, i know the purpose for it. The purpose is to write up some kind of perjury thing. Thats what we mean theres an article in National Review this week by andy mccarthy, very fine prosecutor, that explains how he how you put together a perjury trap and this is probably a perfect example of it. You said one reason why the president doesnt need to sit for questions about dealings with comey because hes already given his explanations and made them public. I want to be clear exactly what happened in that conversation with comey about Michael Flynn. What exactly did President Trump say . There was no conversation about Michael Flynn. The president didnt find out that comey believed there was until about i think it was february when it supposedly took place. Memo came out in may. And in between, comey testified under oath, in no way he had been obstructed at any time. Then all of a sudden in may he says he felt obstructed. He felt pressured by that comment, you should go easy on flynn. So we maintain the president didnt say that. But if we do that under oath, we end up in a sort of Martha Stewart situation. Mr. Mayor, you told abc news last month that the president told comey, quote, can you give him a break . Now youre saying i never told abc that. Thats crazy. Never said that. What i said was that was what comey is saying trump said. I have always said the president denies it. It would be easier for me if the president did say that. Jay and i could defend that. The statement go easy on him is hardly an obstruction. Obstruction involves a threat, obstruction involves a false testimony, obstruction involves an offer of money. Has to be corrupt. Just saying exercise your prosecutorial discretion to give a general a break, i had that happen all the time to me when i was a prosecutor. You are saying that President Trump and james comey never discussed Michael Flynn . That is what he will testify to if hes asked that question. They already know that. Why are they asking us for him to repeat what they already know under oath. Youre also saying that a month ago you didnt tell abc news he said something along the lines of can you give him a break . No, i did not. I said that is what comey says. And let me ask you a question a larger philosophical question. I know youre defending your client. For the record, do you think a president of the United States, any president , can ever obstruct justice or do you think thats impossible because the president is the executive in charge of the Justice Department . Well, there are people who argue that he could never obstruct justice. I think thats too far fetched an argument, we dont have to make it obviously. Suppose a president would put a gun to someones head and say, im going to kill you unless you unless you stop testifying or dont testify or say what i want you to say. Obviously i cant imagine that isnt and obstruction of justice. I think now our argument is when hes exercising his power as president , obviously using a gun is not exercising his power as president and firing somebody, then it becomes very, very questionable whether it can be an obstruction of justice. And in this particular case, he gave other reasons that are perfectly legitimate. The best interview is the one with lester holt. He mentions the russia investigation. He ends the interview by saying i fully expect that somebody else will take his place and i may be even looking at a longer investigation. So how that cant be obstruction. He knows that somebody is going to replace comey and somebody did a few days later. Youve been saying that all of this needs to be over by the end of the month, by september 1st. Take a listen to what you said on fox news this week. Sure. If it isnt over by september, then we have a very, very serious violation of the Justice Department rules, you shouldnt be conducting one of these investigations in the 60 day period. As you know, thats not actually accurate. There is a doj custom not to make Public Disclosures about investigations within 60 days of election but no doj rule that every investigation needs to be shut down within 60 days of an election. Of course not one that is eminent or one that has to be done or some serious loss of evidence could take place. But there is a Justice Department practice and hes bound by it, to the best you can you shouldnt be carrying these things on right before an election. You cant carry on this investigation without a leak. I dont know whos doing it but maybe its the special counsel, maybe its some of the agents or some of the defense lawyers. I dont know, but everything gets leaked or just about everything. So and you dont want to do what comey did, to run have some serious disclosure take place out of your control ten days before the election. So the special counsel has scheduled grand jury testimony from randy kredco on December September 7th. Thats after your september 1st deadline. Whats your response . September 1st was the date bob mueller gave me back two months ago where he said when we were talking about getting his report done, he threw out the date september 1 as being a reasonable date to get it done. And i maybe i credited too much. I thought he meant that will keep us clear of the elections and they did Say Something like they didnt want to repeat some of the mistakes comey made. So maybe i put those two things together or jay did and we came away with the idea that trying to get it done by then. Also seemed for first time im not saying pressure us, but trying to speed us up to give them an answer. We may be arguing over something we dont have to argue over. I think they feel the necessity to get as close to they can to that 60 day period as we do. After all, they are the ones that will be criticize not us. You have said you think the ongoing russia investigation might help republicans in the midterms because President Trump quote needs something to energize his voters. What do you say to critics who say you and your team seem to be dragging out negotiations in order to energize the gop base. You could argue either way about the political effect, trying to be like comey and figure out the political implications of an investigation. You could also say it might energize the other base because they are so intent some have come out for impeachment before the investigation. Be that as it may, the most important thing is that we shouldnt be carrying on this investigation any longer than we have to. It can get done by early september. They have all of the information they need to write a report and either raise questions, do whatever they want to do. The ultimate decisionmaking will be rosenstein, not mueller. Youre still arguing about the interview and whether or not there should be that mueller can even ask about any of the dealings with comey. Well, i mean, i should be clear, were not going to take any questions on comey because we believe that we would be almost committing malpractice by doing that. Theyve theyve made it clear they will not indicate to us what their view on this is and without that, we run the risk of their having the ability to cite him for perjury. I want to play for you because earlier in the interview i was talking about a comment you made to abc news a month ago about what exactly President Trump said to comey. Youre not saying that the president tells you that he said nothing ive been saying that from the beginning. I want to im talking about comeys rendition i want to play the sound so people understand why i asked the question. Sure. Okay. How is he a good witness for the president if hes saying that the president was asking him, directing him in his words to let the Michael Flynn investigation go . He didnt direct him to do that. What he said to him was comey says so you directed to okay, you said that i mean. I said it but also said before it im talking about their version of it. Look, lawyers argue in the alternative. I know its complicated but weve been over it long enough. Why would i Say Something that isnt true . I mean, the president didnt say to him go easy on flynn or anything about flynn. Hes saying that im talking about their alternative. Im saying, the conversation never took place. But if it did take place and heres the conversation thats alleged, it is not illegal to have said that. Thats what im saying, we call it arguing in the alternative. It was a little confusing i suppose. I appreciate that but ive been asked a question numerous times, thats the answer. If i confused it, im sorry. I do want to ask you one question about one of your nemesis, Michael Avenatti the attorney for stormy daniels. Who . Michael avenatti, speaking at the wing ding dinner at the Ohio State Fair and seriously considering a run for the white house against President Trump. Wondering what your thoughts are mr. Avenatti running for president. Speaking at the wing nut wing ding dinner. Iowa Democratic Party. Wing ding dinner. Okay. That sounds like the right place for him to speak. He has every right to do what he wants. I think i would settle the bankruptcy situation where he owes 10 million bucks first but hey, its up to him. Theres a history of people with bankruptcies in their past running for president no, no. Mayor giuliani. Cheap shot. Cheap shot. Mayor giuliani, thanks you so much. Take care, yeah. One year after the deadly riots, President Trump is condemning all racism. Is that the right message . The man who is governor of virginia at the time will be here next. Hello, sir. Good to see you. vo combine the right things. And something amazing happens. Thats our inspiration for fancy feast medleys. Wild salmon primavera. Tastes amazing. Also in pate. Fancy feast medleys. Now tmobile has unlimited for the rest of us. Unlimited ways to be you. Unlimited ways share with others. Unlimited ways to live for the moment. All for as low as 30 bucks a line. Unlimited for you. For them. For all. Get unlimited for as low at 30 bucks per line for four lines at tmobile. Keep it comin love. 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Sleonly remfresh usesep one in threeionpowered melatonin to deliver up to 7 hours of sleep support. Number one sleep doctor recommended remfresh your nightly sleep companion. Today charlottesville is under a state of emergency and washington, d. C. Is in a state of heightened tension ahead of a expected march on the white house. Terry mcauliffe is on a Cross Country tour promoting Democratic Candidates and possibly its been speculated laying the groundwork for a run for president in 2020. You strongly criticized President Trump for his response to the White Supremacists protest in charlottesville and called a lack of leadership by him. Heres what the tweeted, the riots in charlottes a year ago resulted in senseless death and division i condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to all americans. Is that good enough . Do you have concerns about that statement . First of all, should have done it a year ago. I was there in charlottesville to see the neonazis and White Supremacists, about a thousand walking down the street screaming most vile things about members of the Africanamerican Community and members of the jewish faith. I never seen anything like it, jake. People used to wear hoods in this country because they wanted to disfis themselves. To disguise themselves. They dont feel the need to do that anymore. I explained what the people were doing in the city of charlottesville and gave a statement that it was both sides fault, ive got to tell you, it was shocking to me. It wasnt both sides. You had one side of neonazis wearing Adolph Hitler tshirts White Supremacists screaming obscenities at the Africanamerican Community and walking down the streets. They came armed. This wasnt both sides and the other side were the folks protesting against hatred like heather hee hooeer. It was unfortunate the president did not use that opportunity. He came out and blamed both sides. Theres a team when you need to show moral leadership and send a message to the world. He failed that day. I had to go out i followed him an hour later and told them to go home, not wanted in this state. They pretend they are patriots. They are a bunch much cowards, cannot let 1,000 people really hurt the reputation of a state of 8. 5 Million People or country of 325 million. Let me ask a question about what happened last year. Obviously no one here is defending the nazis or White Supremacists, what they said or did was heinous, but there has been criticism whether or not the city of charlottesville and commonwealth of virginia was adequately prepared. Take a listen. Our Law Enforcement, you saw the videos last year, their behavior was absolutely unacceptable. You need to see them react very differently to the situation than they did last year so people feel safe. We have a lot of work to do to regain trust. Moreover, an independent review found Virginia Police did not adequately share their plans with the local police. You were governor of virginia at the time. The fault is with the violent nazis, et cetera, but would you acknowledge there was a failure at the city level and maybe even at the state level to adequately prepare . The state level we put unprecedented resources, huge contingents of state police, i called out the National Guard for the First Time Since 1930 in anticipation. We helped charlottesville and sent down resources. Under virginia law, local control, even though the state and National Guard and local are i