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charlottesville. pittsburgh. >> murdered. because they were jewish. charleston. >> he said he wanted to kill black people. in city after city. >> you are looking at your own backyard. an army of hate. whose numbers are soaring. the country is changing. >> get the [ bleep ] out of here! the fear -- grown. >> go home! >> it is spreading across the world. >> why would you treat us like that? >> a fire fed by politics. haunted by the past. >> we can learn from that. the roots of the crisis. >> there was nothing left. >> the flash point question. >> all men are created equal. we don't believe that. >> of course not. >> no hate, no fear. >> the fabric of the country. demands, calls for action. >> we have never done. once upon a time in america, it looked like almost everyone was white. the idea of america as a white man's country is a powerful idea. in 1960, whites made up 89% of the country. black would be second class citizens. >> leave it to beaver. >> the only african-american who played a role on "leave it to beaver" appeared as a maid. >> care for some more punch, boys? >> white, white, white. >> then came the immigration act of 1965. >> i now declare each of you to be a citizen of the united states. america's doors opened to immigrants from new countries, n non-western lands. by the 1980s, the white percentage was down by about 10 points. this land is people. those are what make america soa soars. >> immigrants keep coming even as the white birthrate declines. >> by the 2000s. the census bureau has news for us. >> minority groups will become the majority in the united states by the year 2043. many americans celebrated the new diversity. but for one group, it was a fi e five-alarm fire. >> we have to understand a sense of emergency at this movement. >> all of this is about immediate and apocalypse future. >> not to be simply melted away in this multi-racial mixed match that they did not choose. >> jared taylor, a white nationalist. he does not advocate violence, he does want to create a whites only version of america. >> i am not at all talking about the entire united states becoming white. i am talking about a portion of it becoming black. >> the white will succeed. >> more and more people agree with me all the time. they do not want to become a minority. >> that is maybe creating a new nation? >> ideally yes. >> we'll hear from taylor later, he voices the biggest fear of the white supremacist movement. >> should i want my people to disappear? >> replacement. the word has become a call to arms. >> charlottesville did shock a lot of people. >> the united states of america fought a war against nazi germany. the marches did not look like nazis or the clan and they wore khakis and golf shirts. some of them call themselves the alt-rights. others? white nationalists. >> very clever branding. >> when people hear phrase like nationalism, they think of over patriotism. this is not that. >> it soon became clear. they may have new names but they were america's oldest nightmare. white supremacy. >> get them off. [ screams ] [ sirens ] >> one person is dead. the year after charlottesville, the number of white national groups soared by almost 50%. some of the them are especially violent. this group is called atomic weapons. >> things they are planning are horrible. >> one former member warned the police about deadly plots. >> they were planning to kill civilians. >> is the federal government fighting this? >> how come we do not have enough tools to pull these people in? >> at a recent hearing on white supremacy, congresswoman, a musl muslim, tlaib red a letter she got in the mail. >> 49 people were killed -- many more were harmed in new zealand. let's hope and pray that the good, old usa that the only good muslim is the dead one. >> listen to the way the money is spent. those agents in the field that work in domestic terrorism, about 20%. we have about 80% working in national terrorism. four times as many agents on international terror. last year, just one person died from an islamic terror attack in america. 49 people were killed in domestic extremist attacks. >> there is a mindset that has to be dealt with. and this is not just an american story. there is now a worldwide movement of white supremacists, sharing their twisted ideas on the internet. [ sirens ] >> in march, a gunman killed 61 people at prayer. the terror cited his inspiration, white supremacist in america, written, sweden, norway -- britain, all of these people believed they are being replaced and must fight to resist. and much of these on white supremacy is centered in the united states of america. >> how did this happened and where did it come from? after slavery and holocaust and the civil rights movement. the truth is race has been the central conflict of america's life from the day the public was born. we witnessed extreme racism before in periods of upheaval and rapid social change. now once again we are living in such a time. >> hail trump. hail our people, hail our victory. [ applause ] >> we need to make america great again. >> trump definitely intenergize the alt-rights. >> we'll have the field of the promises of donald trump. >> donald trump is not a white supremacist but there is no doubt that he's a hero to many in the white supremacy movement. the current may have been triggered because of another president. >> thank you. >> barack obama's election was a moment of joy and unity for millions of americans. >> god bless the united states of america. but some, perhaps many were shocked by it. >> clearly the president of a black family in the white house derange many millions of americans. >> once obama was in the white house, the backlash grew and grew. >> you remember some of the racist character of obama as a monkey and a gorilla. >> over an ugly display of racism that became common. >> barack obama. where did he get his certificate? >> the charge that obama was not born in this country. >> no other american president was badgered to prover he was an american. >> the idea whether he was born in the united states, i think that's a metaphor. is he one of us? answer -- no. >> obama combined the two fires that fuelled white supremacists. attitudes toward blacks and fears about immigration. >> whether we cross the atlantic or the pacific or the rio grande. we are here only because this country welcome them in. >> throughout the history of this country, immigration reinvigorated the united states. but, it is also awaken the darkness american impulses. one chapter holds a frighten reminder of where those impulses could lead. ellis island 100 years ago. immigrants were pouring into the country, at times 100,000 a month, body to body on boats, desperate to become americans. these newcomers were considered inferior. at the time many european immigrants were considered to be entirely different racist. people referred to people in ireland as a race. people as hungary as a race. the jews as a race. with new enemies to hat hate -- membership and the clan soared. some of america's most prominent men were under the hood. >> hugo black was a member of the ku klux clan. he went to serve as the supreme court justice until 1971. white supremacy was an elite movement. they came up with the solution. a pseudo science called eugenics. based on the believes that many americans were mentally defective. among them, immigrants. >> america is degenerating. eugenists believe so-called defective should not be allowed to reproduce. >> sterilized women who were thought not to have the right kind of women. thousands of women were sterilized as the fake science became a national craze. the eugenics movement decided it was time to bring its research to capitol hill. >> people from italy and poland and these countries were genetically inferior to the northern european and the area of anglo-ax ssaxon. a new immigration law was delivered. >> they shut the door and red e reduced immigration to the united states by 97%. something even more disturbing was happening in europe. a young german leader was watching america closely. >> adolph hitler had some real praise for the united states. hitler was meeting with the leaders of the eugenics movement. >> the united states is on the money, we can learn from them. as hitler's power grew and his ambition became clear, americans saw the terrifying consequences of white supremacy. most pulled back from the edge. eugenics died out in america. hitler's plan did nothing. that idea of improving the human race which is what eugenics was all about, definitely echoed in nazi's policies of the 1930s. the holocaust is one horrific consequence of that. >> white lives matter. >> the white supremacy of today did not reach the level as it did a century ago but some troubling ideas are returning. >> you don't think all races are equal. >> no, i do not. i don't see why anyone would. >> jared taylor, a graduate of yale like myself. we don't see eye to eye to say the least. >> i want the people of africa to make africa the best possible continent they can for africa. africans i believe will be ha y happiest not living in society like ours. >> you place so much weight on the fact that is sudden group of people and ancestors spent a lot of time in the sun, their skin is darker. >> do you really think that blacks and whites are basically identical twins separated at birth that they are replaceable? >> taylor believes that non-whites have made america worse. >> why are hispanics not okay? >> they are europeans. >> spaniards are europeans. the people who are qualified, they can come from guatemala or mexico, their genetically and visually different from the europeans. >> so in the 19 century, people fought with the jews of different race. >> are they the same race? >> eastern european jews, they dressed in odd ways and behaved in odd ways. they were clearly aliens. >> some jews are white as what taylor said. >> there were some that did not look like jews at all. >> racism can become confusing. >> i want to know who is "we" and "they." >> let's try one case. caucasian meant people coming out of -- they share the kau caution caucus caucuses. >> why am i not a caucasian if you a advocating policy based on racial categories. i want to understand where i fit in. >> most people. >> it is not a popularity contest. >> most of the time it is not difficult to tell >> how? >> you look at people and try to figure out how white they were everyo even though you don't know what white means? >> oh, i know very well what it means. you don't, but i do. >> later this hour, a deep dive, how is race determined? well, who's white? >> if you walk down the street, hey, that's person is white and that person does not seem white. >> i like being white. it is okay being white. we run right into these crises, and we do not leave until normalcy is restored. we'd been working for days on a site in a storm devastated area. a family pulled up. it was a mom and her kids. everything they had had been washed away. the only thing that brought any kind of solace was the ability to hand her a device so she could call her family and let them know that she was okay. 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[ applause ] >> the clan membership declined. white supremacists would divide among the beating ideologieideo. >> we needed the piction to be more powerful. >> a soldier and a white rebellion. >> we are in a war with the deaths against the jews. bombs at fbi headquarters and other targets. the group kills millions of blacks, jews and their allies on the road to victory. >> thriller alert, the bookends with turner flying a mega-ton bomb into the pentagon. >> pearce's greatest fantasy stroke a cord. >> they started to stock it. selling half a million copy in the years that followed. >> the most influential piece of white supremacist writing that exists. >> what began as fiction became a real life rebellion. powerful new supremacists sprung up in the 1980s. tens of thousands of hard core members. >> the front line soldiers were the movement. >> many would inspired by "the turner diaries." >> we try to save americans. >> officially declaring war on the united states of government. one group actually took its name from the book. >> it was a chain and the kind of activities that carried out. >> the group adopted the book easter rapi 's terrorist tactics. >> assassinations. alan byrd was murdered. the federal government tried to bring the movement down. indicting several of its leaders on suspicious conspiracies and other charges. they were all acquitted. >> the trial was really important because when it collapsed, the government got paranoiaed and back to treating white supremacy as a coherent movement. >> it is our young people. >> it embolden these white power groups and gaining more mementos in the 1990s, collaborating with other antigovernment militia movement. >> a bloody standoff. >> his wife and the united states, marsha were killed. >> between white supremacists and federal agents in idaho. the demise of the branch battling defense near waco, texas, brought the movement to a fever pitch. while these incidents are happening. the number of militia groups in the united states skyrocketed. among those angry young men was timothy mcvay. he had been very interested in "the turner diaries" while he was in the army. >> he forgot that he read it for three or four weeks. and he kept on wanting me to lead it. you got to read this book. after mcveigh left the military, he radicalized even more. he met with white supremacists across the nation while on the gun show circuit where he also sold his favorite book. he was outraged by waco. which he visited in person during the standoff. the fiery inferno there drove him into action. >> he fienally decides this government is so dangerous to its own citizens that it needs to be destroyed. >> wholly cow. >> on april 19th, 1995, the two-year anniversary of waco. >> blown away. mcveigh carried out what he considered to be his masterpiece. the attack was similar to the attack on the fbi in "the turner diaries." it was the same kind of target, a federal building. a similar kind of bomb dead ntod at the same time of day, just after 9:00 a.m. mcveigh has become earl turner. >> when he was arrested a few days of the bombings. he had pages of "the turner diaries" in his car. today there are tributes to mcveigh and "the turner diaries" all over the internet. remember the deadly group that planned the attack on nuclear plants. >> authorities discovered they had explosives, radio active materials and a frame photograph of timothy mcveigh along with the copy of "the uturner diaries." with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough. and it helps people achieve control that lasts. so you can experience few or no symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, control is possible. yeah...yeah, this is nice. hmm. how did you make the dip so rich and creamy? oh it's a philadelphia-- family recipe. can i see it? no. philadelphia dips. so good, you'll take all the credit. his life is pretty comfortable. then, he laid on a serta and realized his life was only just sorta comfortable. i've been living a lie. 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thin argued that he was white because his people from the state of india would descended from arian. the term arian referring to the people of central asia who believed to later migrated to india. remember caucasians referred to people from the caucus mountains. >> what the court says with most americans that you use is white. the answer is no. >> well, what kind of concept is that? the judges made the case that the purity of the arian blood has been destroyed. implying fin was not a figure aryan. we do not see racial policies were based on similar ideas. the germans were the only pure aryans. america's racial distinctions were closely studied by the nazis. >> that learning leaves its imprints on hitler. >> using dubious pseudo signs to prop up racism happens in 2019. >> remember jared taylor? >> you believe whites are superior in terms of intelligence? >> oh, the evidence seems to suggest that the smartest people in the world are jews and east asian as and whys and spanish a hetero-genius population. >> while genetic variations among human populations clearly exist. human beings are in fact 99.9% identical in their genetic makeup. >> the first geno in history. one of the genesis who maps the geno created -- there is no bases of scientific facts or the notion of skin color would be predicted of intelligence. never the less, efforts to categorize people into a racial hierarchy goes back hundreds of years. >> whether it is five races or three races, aftricans or caucasia caucasians, there is always this kind of pseudo racial science which tries to give a supposedly objective grounding to what is ultimately a system of prejudice. >> the case of plessy verses ferguson in 1896 shows how arbitrary definition of race can be in america. >> a man who was white by any definiti definition, homer plessy, he was considered black because maybe one black ancestor. >> plessy intentionally boarded a whites only train cart in louisiana, challengining state' separate but equal law. the conductor came, get out of this car, you are not white. >> when plessy refused to leave, he was arrested. the supreme court ruled against plessy, ushering in decades of discriminato discriminatory. >> the idea was to separate black people and ostrisize black people. >> deeply, deeply entrenched in america's culture. ng. again. introducing fidelity stock and bond index funds with lower expense ratios than comparable vanguard funds. and we now offer the industry's first true zero expense ratio index funds directly to investors. plus, we have fidelity mutual funds with zero minimum investment. how many other firms give you this much value? 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everybody ought to read it. >> the idea is if we don't look out, the white race will be utterly submerged. >> the dominant race to watch out or these other races -- >> it's scientific stuff. it's been proved, he says. fitzgerald might not have been endorsing these sentiments, the character who mouths them is one of the least admirable ones in the book, representing a certain kind of unthinking, vulgar rich man. and yet in 1921, just a few years before he wrote the book, fitzgerald wrote a letter to a critic explaining his own views. the negroids sneak through. to defile the nor kick race. permit only scandinavians to end. -- enter. fitzgerald seems aware his views were not politically correct. he adds in the letter, my reactions were anti-socialist, provincial and racially snobbish. he persisted in his view of racial hierarchy. we are as far above the modern frenchman as he is above the negro. the reason i begin with this literary reference is to remind us all how deeply embedded is the idea of racial hierarchy in western civilization. in fact, in some ways it's in the dna of the modern west because from the 16th and 17th centuries, as europe grew richer and stronger, it began to assume that its material success must be a result of its superiority, religious or ethnic or racial. this view built on centuries of western success has taken deep root and not just among whites. people across asia and africa prefer light skin to dark. >> i realize an obstacle was my skin. >> spent billions of dollars on creams to make them whiter. >> in the black community in the united states, there's a preference for lighter skin. ironically, this all persists despite the fact that we're now living this an age where the fastest growing economies in the world are asian. where china and south korea and india are demonstrating powerfully that they can be as materially successful as the whitest and most nordic people. the fact that these views are so deep seeded, subconsciously part of the modern psyche, is why we are unable to see the growing danger in our midst. the number of white militants has grown sharply. they have attacked more often and with greater brutality. and yet the authorities have always seemed to be surprised and unprepared. perhaps unable to fully internalize the nature of this ideology and its violent ambitions. it's important to understand as america and the western world become more mixed, multicultural, the backlash will grow. white supremacists want to do more than just protest. they make this clear in their internal communications. they are planning for it every day. let's hope we can all recognize this danger before they succeed. i'm fareed zakaria. thank you for watching. 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