♪ >> you know what, we have never had richie havens starting off this morning. this is danny glover's playlist, thanks for being with us. >> he is an oscar nominated actor and producer of a new documentary shenandoah. >> i spent time there doing a documentary as well. ryan lizza, the washington correspondent from the new yorker and will cain from the blaze.com. i missed you terribly. >> it's been 12 hours since we've seen each other. >> i get to meet one of my favorite actors, deets from lone some dove. >> are you from texas? >> if you don't like lonesome dove, you're in trouble. >> you might have to switch spots today. >> i was going to say lethal weapon but everybody says that, right? >> our "starting point" this morning, breaking news, hazmat crews are on the scene. a spectacular fire, taking place in ohio. a train was pulling several tankers derailed just before 2:00 this morning. the accident happened in the north end of columbus, which is near ohio state university and the ohio state fairgrounds, the explosion and flames could be seen and felt for miles. everyone within a mile of that scene has been ordered to leave their homes because police believe some of those tankers are hauling sulphur. they are worried what could happen to the people and residences nearby. it's a dangerous situation there right now. other big story is on capitol hill. health care reform is front and center as republicans are voting today to try to repeal, try being the operative word there because anybody can tell you it's not going to happen. the vote is mostly symbolic. one lawmaker likens the battle to lunchmeat. >> this is your new health care system. more than 150 new government agencies and programs. >> here we are debating for the 31st time to repeal health care reform but again, repeal would be a tragedy for america. >> you can contort and distort and torture statistics long enough and eventually they'll confess, that's what happened here. in reality i have no doubt that this will be a budget buster. >> this is baloney. the arguments are baloney, so baloney, baloney, baloney. >> hence my lunch meat reference. you had to kind of stay with me on that. dan lothian is live this morning. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. as you've heard the 33rd vote by house republicans to either repeal the law or have it thrown out or undermine parts of the law. this is more as you've heard about making a point here because with democrats controlling the senate, this is most likely going to die. and even if it doesn't, beyond that the white house has made it clear that the president would veto the pressure if it came to it. nonetheless, republicans spent yesterday in committee hearings, debating this issue. they still argue that this health care law is more about government intrusion in the lives of americans and in the long term does very little to control the growing cost of health care. even beyond that, they also see this as a way to energize supporters, voters, against this law and against president obama in the upcoming november election. so you're seeing these strong attacks from both sides. democrats say that this is all about political posturing, bordering on an obsession. one democratic lawmaker comparing that obsession to the glenn close character in the movie "fatal attraction." i should point out this is the first vote taking place since the supreme court upheld the ruling and democrats thought that that ruling would have essentially put an end to this entire debate. >> no, no, they hoped. i believe you mean they hoped it would put an end to the entire debate. they didn't think it was going to. dan lothian this morning at the white house, thank you. we appreciate that update. it's interesting, energized supporters is what dan is talking about, trying to see if this can energize supporters. when you look at polling, it's kind of split down the middle. is there a risk in having a debate about something that the supreme court has said it law? >> risk for a public -- >> i guess so, yeah. >> i don't think so. because the polls do suggest the law remains unpopular and this is a way -- >> barely, down the middle, it's fair to say, the biggest poll difference is something like 51% to 43%. >> till split though. >> this is a way for legislators to check the box and register where they stand on this law. >> look, in this election we'll talk about this all year, little bit more of a base election than an independent swing vote election, right? the number of people in the middle who genuinely swing between the two parties has been declining. the democrats and republicans are going to concentrate on getting out the hard core supporters so issues like this are important in doing that. i don't think there'sny risk for the republicans in pushing this. they have a slight advantage on the issue according to some polling. but more importantly it energized the conservative supporters that didn't love romney during the primaries. i wauxed the proceedings last night on c-span. >> a man with not enough to do. >> there was an all-star game last night. >> i know. one of the things you realize watching that, there's a great difference between the -- really good congressman with good arguments and really bad ones as well. >> not everybody has read the entire thing is my sense. >> yeah. >> one of the things that i think we have to consider about this health plan, health care plan, while not perfect it sets the stage for something that could be much better. i mean, we've been talking and there's been some conversations about a universal health care plan ever since the end of world war ii. yet we don't realize how fundamentally broken the health care system is in this country. you know, we're often seduced by the information we have in terms of just the pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies, but there's a real crisis in terms of health care, 50 million people without health care. you have children without health care. this is going to provide a mechanism, people will not perfect, people at the lowest edges of the economy can have health care. >> i think that's the reality that some people pushing. some people dismiss. i think that government's responsibility is one, to go beyond what the harris poll says and act what is basic fundamental basic human right itself. >> one of the amazing things to me in the republican talking points in debating this, they kept coming back to defending medicare and talking about how this bill takes money from medicare to fund obama's plan. now, of course, when medicare was passed republicans opposed that similarly to how they are opposing obamacare. you can imagine decades from now, once this is implemented and becomes popular, that there's a consensus just like there is now on medicare, that this universal health care system, if it's successful is supported by both parties. >> we're going to have lots of opportunities we'll talk about it until the election and all morning too. in a few moments we'll be joined from chris van hollen from maryland. and we'll talk to jeb han hensarling and in the next hour, jim demint will join us again, the co-founder of the senate tea party caucus. first though, we want to get to christine romans with an update on the top stories. good morning. >> good morning, soledad, also developing this morning, investigators trying to find out what caused a mystery odor that made a flight crew sick and forced an emergency landing last night. the u.s. airways flight from charlotte to rome was diverted to philadelphia. attendants told the captain they were feeling sick and smelled something strange. an airline spokesperson says five crew members were taken to the hospital and released. passengers were eye vak waited and put on another flight. none of the passengers got sick. a woman who abandoned her 19-year-old special needs daughter outside a bar will not be charged. police say eva cameron left her daughter lynn outside a bar in tennessee then drove home to illinois. our affiliate wvlt spoke to eva who says she has the best intention. >> i didn't get the help i needed from illinois, somebody at the church said why don't you go down to tennessee. they have a good health care system. then her i.d. card got lost and she became a jane doe. >> her daughter has visual impairment and nonverbal. because lynn is older than 18 she cannot be charged. the reporter who interviewed her will join us live on "starting point" this morning. they want their mtv, directtv dropped viacom channels, comedy central, bet, nickelode nickelodeon. they have been add odds for months over carriage fees. at the all-star game, the nl powered by san francisco giants player pab loss san do val's and scored five runs in the first inning and never looked back, shutting out the american league, 8-0. cabrera awarded mvp. of course, all of you were watching the republican health care debate so you missed those all-star highlights. >> not all of us. >> i believe that was ryan and that's it. >> that was for you, ryan. >> thanks, christine. >> we caught you up to speed on that. for people not watching c-span last night. the vote to repeal health care, let's get right to chris van hollen, he represents maryland. he's the ranking democrat on the budget committee. thanks for being with us. >> good morning, soledad. >> thank you. i know you're about to say great to be with you, soledad. >> yes. >> i appreciate that. how many democrats are you expected to cross over and vote? this is the 33rd vote on all or parts of this particular bill. last time i believe the number was three democrats who sort of went over to the other side. what number do you think it's going to be now? >> i don't know the answer to that. it will be very few, just like the first round. and as you indicated this is the 33rd time this session of congress that we've voted to repeal this piece of legislation. it is an empty political gesture. i was listening to the earlier conversation, there's no doubt it helps to energize the tea party base but i think it ali alienates independent voters when they see congress wasting taxpayer resources doing this yet again when we haven't voted once, not once on the president's jobs initiative he presented last september. so zero opportunity in the house of representatives to vote on the president's jobs plan now we're 33 times voting to overturn obamacare which is not going anywhere in which the supreme court just upheld. >> if you have three democrats who cross over, i'm guessing at that, the number you had last time around, what does that signal? what does that do to your cause if there's no democratic unity on this? >> i think when you have three or very few democrats voting with the republicans, i don't think that's an example of lack of unity. you're going to have an overwhelming support from democrats and of course the democratic senate will not take this up. the president has said he would veto any effort to overturn this law. and the irony here soledad is you have republican colleagues working so hard to eliminate patient protections that are in place right now that they themselves enjoy as members of congress. they have insurance policies that make sure that when their kids have diabetes or asthma or other preexisting conditions, they are covered and yet now they are voting to deny those same protections to millions of americans. >> the polls kind of are all over the place on this. when the "washington post" asked, how's obama handling het care? only 41% approved, 52% disapprove, among independents, 43%, 53% disapprove. about the supreme court decision, a little more closely split i think, 47% approve, 43% disapprove and 10% don't know. do you worry that in fact that the poll numbers are not supporting the position that people really feel strongly about the health care law, that maybe the american people in polling support what the republicans are doing today? >> i think the polls show there's growing support for the health care law as more and more people realize what's in it and benefit from it. we know that right now there are millions of people already benefitting for example from the provision that let's them keep their kids on health insurance until they are age 26. look, we all know this law was demagogued. there was lots of misinformation. the republicaned called it a government takeover of health care. the independent fact checker politifact said it was the lie of the year in 2010 and create death panels. i think the american people are beginning to set aside all of the demagoguery and beginning to focus on what the bill actually does. this provides much greater security to middle class americans who when this law is fully in place, will not have to worry about losing their health care when they lose their job. they'll still be able to have that security for their families in addition to the patient protections that they'll have that as i said members of congress have for themselves and their families. >> chris van hollen, a democrat from maryland, thanks for being with us. >> over the course of this morning, i expect mr. danny glover and i might have disagreements. we started with an agreement, is this health care bill sets the stage for something more. he said it's not going anywhere. i would beg to differ with that. with six states opting out of the medicare provision and the fact that the penalty tax, penalty, tax, is so paultre xpared to the cost of insurance, you'll see numerous, thousands of people opting to pay the penalty. it can't exist the way it's written. it won't work. one of two things would happen. repeal or a massive evolution of the law as we know it now. >> the penalty rachets up over time. >> 2% of your income. if i make $100,000 a year, that's $2,000 a year. i have a family of four, i pay $15,000 in new york for insurance. i'll pay the penalty and jump in when i get sick. >> you're not going to buy insurance? >> the chief justice supreme court said that is a valid economic choice for me to make. >> they can rachet it up to whatever they want -- >> i think you just illustrated my point. it will massively evolve over time or be repealed. >> i doubt it will be repealed even if romney is president. it would be as difficult as to put it in place, 60 votes in the senate and he would going to spend his first year trying to fix health care? >> if they are going to rachet up the tax -- >> not massively rachet it up, but it can be adjusted over time. >> i'll let you work out over the commercial break. you disagree. >> he's always got more. >> then we'll carry on. guess what, we're discussing it all morning. -- all year, you're right. a new scandal is bubbling to the surface in this economic crisis, a trading firm going under. the founder attempts suicide. $215 million is missing. we're going to explain what's happening there. plus, aa controversial decision is coming that could effectively end abortions in the state of mississippi. the cdc is offering tips to survive the plague of bride zil las. we'll give you the wedding season survival guide. >> not the most ridiculous thing they have done this year. >> ryan's play list the troggs -- >> if they play your song, that means you won the debate. >> not at all. every communications provider is different but centurylink is committed to being a different kind of communications company. ♪ we link people and fortune 500 companies nationwide and around the world. and we will continue to free you to do more and focus on what matters. welcome back, i'm christine romans mindsing your business this morning. the futures industry still reeling from. mf global scandal, a brokerage firm trying to track down money. accused of losing $2 million in customer funds, the trading commission filed a lawsuit against the group and referred to as pfg best. the founder is in a coma after trying to commit suicide. the company trades for farmers and individual investors, all of those accounts have been frozen. san bernard dean no, the third to seek bankruptcy protection, facing a $46 million shortfall and may not be able to pay its employees, despite getting $10 million in concessions from its workers and slashing the workforce by 20% over the past four years. soledad? >> christine, thanks for that update. a hearing in mississippi today will decide the fate of the state's last remaining abortion clinic. in effect decide the fate of abortion in the state of mississippi all together. a new law requires that physicians at the jackson women's health organization be certified ob-gny and have admitting privileges. supporters say it's a safety measure. the clinic said it can't get its out of state doctors hospital privileges. the law was suspended by a federal judge on july 1st. the same judge will preside over today's hearing, which will determine whether or not to lift that suspension. ahead in joemt, we'll hear from planned parenthood southeast. first we're joined by sam mihms, the state congressman. why do you think this law is a good thing? >> good morning. >> good morning to you. >> we believe health care is very important here in mississippi. we do believe this is a health care issue for women. so the legislation is quite simple. it mandates that every ob-gyn at this one facility has been certified and more importantly anybody that's performing abortions at this sole facility clinic, must have privileges at a local hospital. we really believe this is a health care issue for women. >> ultimately though, what you're doing, since the state has wone abortion clinic and you're creating this additional requirement, you're going to shut down this particular clinic with that requirement, right, of having admitting privileges which are -- everybody would admit very hard to get for an out of state doctor, correct? >> not necessarily. we do -- you're ending abortion? >> not at all. wuf one abortion clinic in mississippi, they had 75 days to become compliant with the legislation, they still have the opportunity to have a physician receive admitting privileges at the local hospital. we are not banning abortion in mississippi but simply don't have that ability. this is intended for health care for women and we believe this is what's best for mississippi. >> so i'll get to the health care thing in just a moment. there's a state rep, lester carpenter said this recently. we've literally stopped abortion in the state of mississippi. three blocks from the capital sits the only abortion clinic in the state of mississippi, this is the one we're talking about, a bill was drafted and said if you would perform an abortion in the state you must be certified ob-gyn with admitting privileges to the hospital. this guy is a para medic. anybody here in the medical field knows how hard it is to get admitting privileges to a hospital because many of these hospitals have religious affiliations so there's no way you'll get someone who is going to have admitting privileges at a certain hospital if they are a doctor who performs abortions, which effectively bans abortions in the state. >> well, i'm chairman of the public health committee in the mississippi house and this bill came through night committee. intent of this legislation is for health care for women. we believe this is a very serious procedure, we believe that the physicians ought to have admitting privileges at a local hospital. we hope and pray that nothing goes wrong during this procedure but things do go wrong. they've gone wrong in other states. this will allow that physician to follow that patient to a local hospital. i will tell you, there's probably about nine or ten other states that have this type of legislation. i look at this as a license you're and regulation on this one facility clinic. this is a license sur issue. >> there are other procedures done, level ii and iii procedures done in other hospitals and 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