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trayvon martin was shot and killed, could be a key piece of evidence. he had a closed fracture of his nose, two black eyes, two cuts to the back of his head in a minor back injury. i want to go to martin savidge covering the story for us. with all these new details and developments does it help zimmerman's argument he was in fact standing his ground they killed trayvon martin in self-defense? >> reporter: it depends on who you talk to. here's the way it breaks down. this information coming from the prosecution, the special prosecutor angela corey, they had to provide the basics of their investigation over to the defense so that's why we're starting to see this information come out this week. two reports caught her eye, the autopsy report on trayvon martin and that's the one you're referring to that says bruising on the hands of trayvon martin that would seem to support the defense's claim that george zimmerman says that trayvon martin came up to him, punched him in the nose, knocked him to the ground and began beating him against the sidewalk, however, the attorney for trayvon martin's family says, wait a minute. this only says trayvon martin was in a fight, it doesn't say who started it. listen to him last night on "ac 360." >> trayvon was fighting for his life. >> you're saying that's why he would have injuries on his hands? >> absolutely. he was standing his ground. it was self-defense so if somebody got a gun, i want to fight for my life. >> now, we should point out the injuries that george zimmerman says he sustained and these were documented by a visit to his family doctor that says that he had lacerations on the back of his head, two black eyes, a broken nose and an injury to the back of the head. if he was seriously injured he would have gone to the hospital the night of the event, not the day after and he did not have a concussi concussion. this is going to be argued both ways in a courtroom. it's going to be the battle of the expert, brooke. >> we'll follow it all the way through, martin, appreciate it this morning. new restrictions from the pentagon after air force pilots complain these high-tech f-22 plane, raptors were making them sick. the pentagon is bringing in the navy, they're bringing in nasa to help try to figure out why these $400 million f-22 raptor jets are making the pilots dizzy and light-headed in some cases nauseated and blacking out simms a lot like those of oxygen deprivation. >> secretary panetta believes we should do everything to minimize flight risks and continue to closely monitor the air force's steps in doing this. >> they're speeding up plans to add the back-up ox general systems in the cockpit. i want to bring in representative kinzinger. talking about it and coming forward, a member of the air national guard. congressman, good morning to you. >> hey, brooke, good morning, how are you? >> doing well. first things first, just what is your reaction to secretary of defense coming out yesterday and calling a concern on these f-22 raptors? >> we think it's a good first step, senator warner from virginia and i sent a letter basically asking for these steps to come into play and we were pleased that yesterday this was happening. again, this is a first step to say, hey, look, the f-22 is an important part of our arsenal, future dense of our country, it's important but something is wrong with it and pilots are getting hypoxic from a lack of oxygen, not feeling right. putting them in a dangerous situation so this is a good first step to say we'll test it in a controlled environment. a lot of questions and information that needs gathered. >> in terms of the symptoms, you mentioned it's hypoxia so dizziness, some of them are feeling nauseous. some are blacking out. i want to play some of the sound, one of the pilots, what he felt when he talked to "60 minutes." >> several times during the flight i had to really concentrate, immense concentrate on doing simple, simple tasksary our training tells you if you think suspect something, pull your oxygen and come back home. when i pulled the oxygen ring, i couldn't find it. >> here's my question, given i imagine it's incredibly frightening to go through it in the air behind the controls but secretary of defense panetta says they remain within the proximity of potential landing locates but my question is does it matter if you're near or far from a landing location, if you're plaquing out, you're blacking out and that's a huge problem. >> hypoxia is pretty insidious, i've been hypoxic as part of my training as a pilot. it basically comes on. you don't necessarily realize it, that's why you're trained so you recognize the symptoms but you can't put a square peg in a square hole because your mind shuts down. you think you're aware but you're not so being near a landing location at the point you might recognize symptoms is a good first step. the pilot you showed is still facing disciplinary action from the military for his refusal to fly with a charcoal filter on the aircraft and we can do a long way to make sure they pull back the reprimand against the captain. >> it's not just some pilots but i'm reading there are mechanics, mechanics on the ground who are working on these f-22 raptors or in the cockpits, putting on the same masks and having issue, as well. what kind of issues mite this be, contamination, possibly fuel getting in the mask? >> well, i think it's an all the above -- nobody really knows. that's what i think is disturbing about it, this is an important aircraft but with all the intensity that people have put into finding it we haven't been able to pinpoint the problem yet. there's maintainers on the ground doing engine runs where they start the engine. some have experienced these symptoms. the full resource of the air force are being used to try to find the problem. i think we need a much bigger task force and that's where secretary panetta took the first step too. but, you know, we need a bigger task force that will focus on it and get it done and pilots who feel uncomfortable shouldn't be forced to fly and also should be given breathing room to come forward. we've had upwards of nine pilots come forward. many who want to do so anonymously and said they're concerned with the aircraft. >> you say it needs to get fixed. $400 million planes. when is that going to happen? >> i hope soon because we paid for these things and they're very important to our defense so let's get all the smartest minds together and figure out what's going on because i want to look back in six months or year and say it's not a problem anymore and have the greatest fighter at 100% capacity in our arsenal. >> congressman kinzinger, thank you very much. what else is making news, christine romans. >> good morning. we could face -- we can witness the final hours of john edwards' corruption trial and still no word if edwards himself will testify. his daughter cait is set to take the stand. the defense is considering calling edwards' former mistress rielle hunter to the stand. edwards faces up to 30 years behind bars for allegedly using illegal campaign contributions to cover up his affair with hunter. mitt romney adding more delegates to his tally in oregon's primary and took home 73% of the vote. 25 delegates up for grabs there. in nebraska romney walked away with 71% of the vote. for the second time this year, president obama will have lunch with congressional leaders from both sides of the aisle today. pushing his economic agenda. invited guests are house speaker john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority leader harry reid and mitchell mcconnell. he told erin burn net he's prepared to play hard ball if the president wants to raise the debt ceiling again. >> it is a line in the sand because washington has kicked the can down the road, kicked can down the road and the american people think we're crazy. they're ready for washington to take action. i'm here. i'm ready to do it. let's go. >> boehner says he'll only agree to raise the debt ceiling if it's offset by a greater amount of spending cuts. u.s. stock futures flat but european markets are down on concerns again about greece. that country's president is warning of a possible run on the banks there. greek citizens are worried the country may have to leave the euro currency. they are withdrawing money from the banks, feverishly over the past few days. more on this story as it develops. facebook boosting the size of its ipo offer by 25% looking to raise up to $16 billion. welcome news one day after big three automaker general motors said it's pulling its ads from facebook. sources told the wall street journal, gm is pulling ads because it had little effect on consumers. california will take a big bite out of it. facebook employees will pay $1.1 million each in state income taxes after they go public. up to $4 billion in taxes overall. numbers still in the air but we know for sure after employees start cashing this their shares how much they have to pay to the government. brooke, think of this, this year in california, california, one-fifth of its personal income tax growth will come just from what happens on friday. >> wow. amazing. >> it's amazing. >> a company that eight years ago was in the dorm room at harvard. >> he wears hoodies and t-shirts when he addresses his company. there you go. christine, thank you very much. still ahead on "starting point," i know i fly a lot. we're talking gaping holes in airport security. an alarming report sparking washington's attention. the question is how safe are we? 20 million more americans about to be labeled addicts without even picking up a drink or a drug? controversy over these new addiction guidelines this morning. may make you think maybe you're an addict. our panel walking in with all that and more. good morning, good morning, good morning. nice to see you all. flo and the machine. >> her new album, right. >> this is her old one. >> "starting point" -- >> good morning. >> we'll be right back. 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>> yeah, a lot of people are talking about this and it's just rumored the dsm 5, i've been hearing it's been coming out and new diagnosis of alcoholism and trying to address early stages of what's to come, right? one argument, it's going to label a lot of people alcoholic. on the other hand an argument is more people become educated at an earlier age about their drinking and what it can lead to and they think in terms of a continuum like starting at 10 percentile and alcoholism and drug addiction treatment is at the 70th percentile so you start on that -- >> the continue one. >> so where exactly do you fall? do you say, yes, it's a good thing for these college kids to be labeled alcoholics or do you think it's a little too much? >> well, alcoholic is a specific term that, you know, psychiatry traditionally never got involved in addiction or the subject of adwikz or alcoholism for 50, 60, 70 years and now all of a sudden they're paying close attention to it and i'm suspicious about that. alcoholism is a specific -- there's another organization called addiction -- american society of american addiction which is what addiction treatment is all based on. that is addiction and alcoholism and that -- that has specific criteria. that has genetic predisposition, childhood trauma, use exposure, use of addictive substances in the face of adverse consequences, that's addiction where i come from. >> so then where do you fall as we're watching these kids funneling beer as we're talking to you? do you support this idea because let me just get this in there critics -- let me quote at uconn, this will artificially inflate the statistics considerably. do you see -- they're saying the resources for treatment will be more scarce, misdirected. do you see that perspective? >> the history of the dsm is all about the insurance companies. they wanted a manual to say what is your science of the mind? what is your scientific evidence and what is quantifiable mental illness and so it was really designed for the insurance companies anyways in order to bill. and so that's been the battle for 30, 40 years between the insurance companies and the medical profession, psychiatric profession, what is it? so it changes every five years if you notice. >> bob, i want to bring in our panel. i see them nodding and wanting to jump in. >> hi, ron brownstein from "the national journal," i think the key question, does this in effect risk broadening the definition to the point where the attempts at intervention become diluted or does it allow you to more early on intervene with people who are going to need help down the road? does this ultimately improve or dilutes the prospects of successful intervention? >> i find it interesting the subject everybody is talking about is college campuses and one of the college campuses, when will they take responsibility for the fact that the downtowns of any university in america are bars. dozens of bars everywhere, drinking is encouraged, binge drinking is encouraged so that's really the subject. why are so many of our young people abusing drugs to or alcohol to the level of, you know, just 0.03 levels and being admitted to emergency rooms and why respect they doing something about alcohol abuse on their campuses? that's an interesting subject. >> i certainly agree with you. margaret hoover. awful us understand binge drink something on the rise in college campuses. it's an epidemic and so how do these new guideline as dress that? certainly college kids are drinking too much but what do these guidelines do to address that? >> i think it forces them to get counseling or education at an early age in the continuum so college campus health care will have to address this binge drinking if somebody needs counselling they'll get education. >> how? i don't think college kids are reading the dsm 5. >> but the clinicians dealing this their health care there like at the drop-in centers and different campuses, you probably get some sort of thing where there's better education at the college level. i mean that's what this is about. 40% of our college kids would now be considered alcoholic rather than just a rite of passage. it is not a rite of passage to have a 0.3 alcohol level and be date raped and this penn state thing a few months ago. that coach paw stuff, that was all alcohol fueled. cooler heads need to prevail. >> one last point that people might be overlooking this could reconsiderize 20 million americans as addicts. the manual's use will show what insurers will pay and could add new expenses on to the public budget. >> that's a frightening thing about the medicare going by the dsm v. it's still not out yet but health care in america for alcoholism treatment pays tore detoxification only. outpatient. i mean i live in the real world. this is the academic world that this book is based on. it's all academics writing. >> implications in the real world and it's a wake-up call not just for universities but parents and hopefully some of these students, as well. my mom said never good ever happened after midnight. >> take your mom out. >> still ahead on "starting point," the papers this morning, states taking money from struggling home owners. that's ahead. also, have you seen this video? 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>> i covered the 1994 senate race between mitt romney and ted kennedy and kennedy came out of the box with a series of ads on bain and that ended that race. not likely to do that this time but critical for romney to have a better defense than 20 years ago. >> he's more tested now and did this exact line of argument and failed newt gingrich. >> will cain? >> chicago braces for -- >> hold it up. >> i want everyone to see all your -- >> so i can read well. chicago braces for nato talks this coming sunday ainge monday. all the world leaders will be in chicago including president obama. but so will occupy wall street. occupy wall street is planning protests such that boeing will tell all of its 500 employees don't come in monday. just work from home or if you come in other businesses are saying wear casual clothes. occupy wall street said nato is 1% military armed. 22 starbucks putting up thick plastic. >> heads up in chicago. >> in honor of your nirvana, kind of the echo of the siege of seattle with the wto under bill clinton -- >> chicago has seen it before, 1968. >> 30 seconds. >> "the new york times," the first page, needy states use housing aid cash to plug budget. the biggest private settlement after the tobacco industry. the banks paid the states for mortgage mitigation because of their role in the housing cri s crisis. states are not using it but to plug their own budgets because states are in debt. >> 27 states -- 15 states raising it for other purpose, taxes. >> similar on the tobacco settlement years ago. >> i know. >> we'll bring it up because we're talking football. still ahead on "starting point," this is a guy that actually tom brady sees in his nightmares. eli manning is here to talk ab

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