all five victims were black. the two suspects are white. officials are not calling this a hate crime but jake england, the suspect on the left, he made a remark on his facebook page the day before the shootings that could indicate a motive here, "today is two years that my dad has been gone, shot by a, blank and blank. it's hard not to go off between that and sharon, i've gone in the red, rip dad and sharon, i love and miss you. i think about both of you every second of the day. sharon was a reference to england's 24-year-old fiance, sharon hart wild, who had recently committed suicide in front of him, leaving behind their 6-month-old daughter. we're joined by tulsa mayor dewey bartlett and tulsa police chief chuck jordan. chief i want to ask you first what do we know about a motive? we have the facebook postings which certainly are leading investigators in the direction of a hate crime but what do we know about motive here? >> well that's not something we can really discuss at this time. obviously we're going to give all that information to the prosecuting authority, our district attorney, and hopefully our reports will be complete and we'll have complete motive for him to work with. >> can you tell us, chief, a little bit about the relationship or association between england and alvin watts? investigators have called them associates. what does that mean exactly? do they live together? there's a big age difference, jake england is 19 years old and the other one i think is 32. >> the term associates is actually kind of an investigative term we use when looking, going through records, gathering information on someone, an associate can be many, many things whether it's somebody they are casual friends with or somebody in this case, we think they're pretty good friends, living at the same residens r residen residence. that's basically what it means. >> do you know who pulled the trigger? >> i can't talk about any of the investigative details. that's going to prosecution. >> of course, and obviously we don't want to you do or say anything that would jeopardize that investigation. i want to bring up another facebook post if i can from jake england around 10:00 friday, after the shooting hz os had occurred, you must be going through this material "i do believe it just might be time to call it quits. i hate to say it like that but i'm done. if something does happen tonight be ready for another funeral later. "are these two men cooperating? are they talking, helping you put the pieces together from what we've seen on facebook and the time frame of these murders? >> well again, i apologize but we can't talk about any of the investigative details at this point in time. it's just premature to do that. anything we do have, i will tell you we go through social media on a lot of cases as part of our culture today and our society today so that's very common, but as far as any information of what the suspect may or may not have said we can't share that now. >> mayor bartlett i want to bring new and talk about what happened in the community. for 48 hours you had people who were afraid to leave their homes. clearly they must be happy at this point there are two arrests and looks at though you're headed toward some resolution. can you talk about how the people are tulsa are feeling this morning? >> well, they're feeling a lot more secure in their homes. obviously when this random event happened very early friday morning, people were walking down the street, were on the front porch of their homes, and that's the last thing you ever would think would happen, and so it's a real shock to our collective system. now, when the community came together in a very united fashion, we were very supportive of the investigative and the policing efforts of our entire law enforcement family, that we were able as a community to help them with a lot of tips, a lot of suggestions, and that in itself i think brings a lot of closure at least to the fear aspect of this thing with two people now behind bars and the investigation going into the different phase with the court system and the prosecutors, it does bring at least some finality to what did happen. now we focus upon the families, the five families that were affected by this violence, three that of course lost the family member that died, had been injured both gunshots, we now focus on our fell sew tulsans to make sure they are bet per. >> how are the two wounded doing right now? >> they're out of the hospital and much better. they're certainly recovering and from what i'm told, the recovery is expected to be complete. however, there's certainly a lot of emotional scars that enters into this that will be difficult to gauge for a long time. families, that's who we focus on now our fellow tulsans, the families. >> thank you, gentlemen. keep us posted, as you get more from your investigation that you can share with us. clearly you don't want to jeopardize the ongoing investigation. hi, zoraida. >> hello, christine. the teenage suspect in the deadly ohio shooting rampage will be back in court. 17-year-old t.j. lane is accused of killing three of his fellow students in january. cobe prosecuted as an adult. singer jennifer hudson is scheduled to testify in the trial of a man accused of killing her mother, brother and nephew. william balfour is the estranged husband of hudson's sister. prosecutors say he gunned down her family in a jealous rage in 2008. mike wallace died over the weekend aft the age of 93. his aggressive and fareless reporting is the stuff of legend. wallace was there at the beginning of "60" minutes in 196. long time colleague morley safer calls him a "one man truth squad." >> people like mike have an indefinable quality that makes people at once take to him immediately, and then find themselves rappelled by him. it's a unique talent. >> there will be a full tribute to wallace next sunday on "60 minutes." minding your business let's get a quick check of the markets. stocks pointing to a big drop when trading gets under way. futures down over 100 points right now. things could change, we're watching to see how the market reacts to friday's disappointing jobs report. only 120,000 jobs were created in march. that's lower than the estimated 210,000. in other business news now not much of a relief but gas prices are down. the national average for a gallon of unleaded now $3.93 a gallon, the third day that we have seen a drop, overall gas prices have jumped nearly 20% and that's just so far this year. it was a battle to the finish and beyond. bubba watson winning the 76th masters tournament in augusta, georgia, defeating south african luis oosthuizen on the second hole of the playoff. watson shot a 68 to force the playoff. >> going back to my childhood, going back to my wife, what my wife said to me, what my mom said to me, just put my head down and i've done this before, my caddie's told me all the time, he said you're a good golfer. you're here for a reason. you can do this. you've hit all these shots before. you just have to do it in this moment. >> no big deal, just in this moment. watson is 33 years old. this is his first major win. it was beautiful to watch. >> i did not watch it. i was knee deep in children all weekend but that's one happy man, at 33, one happy minute. >> yes indeed. >> roland just told me he's completely natural talent. >> never taken a golf lesson, never studied his golf swing, actual old school, how ben hogan was. you figure it out in the dirt. i love guys like that plus he's left-handed and hits a pink driver with a pink shaft. bubba said i'm going to stand out, plus his name is bubba, of course he'll stand out. >> let's talk about mitt romney and standing out the republicans and standing out to the cast of "saturday night live" who turned their sights on mitt romney again. this week a string of clips supposedly lifted from c-span showing the candidate on the campaign trail. >> you know, ann and i have lived and traveled all over the world but i'll let you in on a little secret. the only place that has ever truly felt like home is right here east st. louis, illinois. in all honesty i can't remember a time when dungeons and dragons wasn't an important part of my life. no one wants to get sick, you know, but frankly, i've always thought that if i had to develop a chronic disease, i hoped it would be adult onset diabetes. people ask me, mitt, just how many piercings do you have? i always say more than i need but less than a want. >> it reminded us of the famous grits and saying y'all when he was down south last month. >> oh my goodness. >> i'm learning to say y'all and i like grits and things are strange things are happening to me. >> strange things are happening to me. >> i guess he's getting the grits in south carolina, that's probably why gingrich blasted him in the state. >> he point the that's why he failed. >> he got jeff foxworthy to campaign for him and still couldn't come in second in alabama. >> politicians have to go out and say i'm like you. >> mitt's a special case. he gets a bad rap because mitt has consistently throughout his entire career been a human windsock. in that sense he's not a flip-flopper. he is willing to say, do or believe anything to get elected. he gave thousands of dollars to planned parenthood and he deserves the dig. >> look this group think has taken hold that mitt romney is a completely unprincipled windsock as john said and mitt romney has given us evidence to believe it. he's given away 10% of his wealth, tithed it every year, given away two years of hadis life for something beyond his career. >> and avoided military service to do so. >> those are hard -- >> a war he supported he avoided that service by volunteering. >> just give me a candidate who can say i'm not going to do this stupid bowling stuff, taking a shot, drinking a beer, eating grits. if you don't like it, don't do it. to me that is a joke. >> republicans would respect him if he did that. >> republicans 2008, senator obama bowling and senator clinton took a shot. that's just idiotic. >> all politics. >> no president say regular person anyway. let's just stop that impressive. >> how about quail hunting. >> i'm trying to figure out will and his beard. >> did a parakeet fall in your pocket? >> even don johnson is saying i did better "miami vice" in the '80s. that's a chubori pocket. >> are you guys going to be like this? >> all day, baby, all day. the question, was it a justified use of deadly force? we'll squ the lawmakers who helped write the stand your ground law. and a bus offering mobile treatments for your hangover if you're about to head to work or can't get out of bed because of your easter festivities, you don't need to miss the rest of the show, check out our live blog on cnn.com/startingpoint. we'll leave with you roland's playlist as roland leaves us, "sunshine anderson." >> i got to do radio. you did listen to sunshine anderson, though. and pepperoni breath? fight both fast with new tums freshers! concentrated relief that goes to work in seconds and freshens breath. new tums freshers. ♪ tum...tum...tum...tum... tums! ♪ [ male announcer ] fast relief, fresh breath, all in a pocket sized pack. cuban male announcer ] fast relief, fresh breath, cajun raw seafood pizza parlor french fondue tex-mex fro-yo tapas puck chinese takeout taco truck free range chicken pancake stack baked alaska 5% cash back. right now, get 5% cash back at restaurants. it pays to discover. ca. we've got to protect the environment. the economists make some good points. we need safer energy. 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[ sneezes ] prosecutors in the trayvon martin shooting could take their case to a grand jury tomorrow. either way trayvon's family considers it a deadline to show something about the fate of george zimmerman. today a group of college students who walked 40 miles across central florida over the weekend lead a rally calling for zimmerman to be arrested and tried. grand jury may never decide whether zimmerman is tried in court. you remember angela corey the special prosecutor overseeing the case last month. >> since i've been the elected state attorney for the last three years and two months we have yet to get together a grand jury. we do a thorough investigation and we make that decision ourselves. >> david simmons is a republican florida state senator. thank you for getting up early for us this morning, sir. >> good morning. >> do you think this case is going to go to a grand jury tomorrow? >> i don't know. that's certainly a decision that the special prosecutor can make, and will make, and it's important for us to simply make sure the judicial system actually plays out the way it's supposed to. >> let's talk about that then, talk about the grand jury and if it goes to the grand jury and what that would look like. it's made up of at least 15 people. they must decide if there's probable cause a crime has been committed. in this case any piece of evidence that would convince a judge that zimmerman probably committed a crime when he shot trayvon martin, whether it be a witness or a piece of physical evidence, so when you look at the facts of this case, do you think a grand jury would indict george zimmerman? >> well, i don't know what all the facts are, christine. i think it's important to understand right now that the stand our ground law, the stand your ground law is something that came into being in 2005. at that time the state of florida was the distinct minority. most states have and had a stand your ground law and florida had an unusual provision that says that a person has, a victim has a duty to flee, and all we did in 2005 was change that, so that florida would go along with the majority of states in the nation, and say that a person who is a victim of a crime, wherever that person rightfully is located, can go ahead and stand his or her ground in the event that they are accosted by someone who uses deadly force. >> good morning, senator simmons. is there a possibility that the stand your ground law is not even germane to the case if mr. zimmerman precipitated this entire situation? >> that is correct. the stand your ground as we prepared it in 2005 and it was enacted provides that, number one, what i call is a purity provision, you must in fact not be engaged yourself in any unlawful activity. secondly, you must reasonably believe that deadly force is being used against you in order to be able to rely upon the stand your ground law, and so in this instance, if, in fact mr. zimmerman was engaged in any kind of unlawful activity such as waving or brandishing of firearm in front of trayvon martin, then under those circumstances, the law wouldn't apply. what's really interesting is, is that even if the stand your ground law were not enacted, chances are that he would still have the defense of self-defense under the prior florida law, because even though there is the standard requirement previously in florida to flee if deadly force is being used against you, you don't have the duty to flee if, in fact, you don't have an avenue of escape. and according to him, at least according to his father, as he stated last week, he was on the ground being held down, so he didn't have an avenue of escape. >> senator simmons, will cain. how might the stand your crime law changed the crime scene? would it have shifted the benefit of the doubt from the police on site? would it have affected the decisions the police made that night? >> i think the important thing for any law enforcement officer to do is number one, have probable cause, which is required to arrest someone, and then look at all the facts and circumstances. since this is one of those crimes in which there are few eyewitnesses and it's going to require that there be forensic evidence, it's going to be interesting to see how the bullet wound actually occurred. it's going to be interesting to see who the person that was, who was yelling on the tapes for help. so these are a lot of factual pieces of information that we don't have already, and that's why it's so critical that the prosecutor is the one who sifts through all of this evidence before making the determination of probable cause. >> david simmons, florida state senator, thank you for joining us. ahead, get sloppy drunk at night and an iv in the morning. new mobile hangover er, the latest innovation to help keep the partying going. guess where it is, it's our "get real." tim tebow preaching to thousands at eastern mass and he brings up tebowing. you're watching "starting point." ♪ is this a new song, recent? 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