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>> that's off of ali's playlist, donna summer, "she works hard for the money." that videotape is pretty crazy. let me introduce you to the panel, ali is joining us, cnn's chief business correspondent and anchor of "world business today" and john fugelsang, and will cain, cnn contributor, columnist for theblaze.com. our starting point is jobs, jobs, jobs. everyone's going to be looking. what do you think, ali, are we going to see? >> we'll see an addition of more than 205,000 jobs, that's the estimate for the month of march, that will be the third month in a row for 200,000 plus. it will be the 18th month in a row of job creation. there are a lot of questions as to why that's happening. some people say that back during the financial crisis, way too many people were laid off. they overshot, or they didn't, companies didn't hire enough in the ensuing months of the recovery. whatever it is, it's here. the rate will probably stay the same at 8.3% but there's a disconnect as more jobs are created more people who haven't been looking for jobs get back in. it's quite possible the unemployment rate goes up or stays the same. >> dr. nan hayworth from new york serves on the congressional job creator's caucus here to talk about the jobs report. so first, let's talk a little bit about if the projections hold true and sometimes that can be a little bit of a big if but people are having consensus around the numbers ali just gave. what do you think it means on the democratic side and republican side? >> it's always welcome to have more americans employed. the numbers should be higher and in previous recoveries as high you know, ali as 300,000, even 500,000 jobs a month. so this has been the slowest recovery since the great depression unfortunately and the unemployment remains at 8.3% in u6, those unemployed or underemployed some 15% so we've got a long way to go, and the big concern for all of us, irrespective of party is that we have conditions that we know are on the horizon. there is still a lot of hesitation on the part of employers to bring on new human beings in their employ, new employees, because the terms of the 2010 health law now being debated by the supreme court can be quite onerous and going to get worse. we're facing what ben bernanke face a tax fiscal cliff at 2013 and my concern is that employers, businesses small and large will look at that cliff and saying you know what? we're going to have to hold back more than they otherwise would. >> the flipside so that under the health care law allowing americans up to age 26 being covered by their parents' insurance, encourage lots of companies to hire young people because they won't have to pay. >> or a consumer directed system like what they have in indiana, the health savings accounts for medicaid recipients and state employees. i were every that model. >> unless they run out. >> we're not going to debate health care. go back to jobs before you derail my entire segment on the jobs war. i know i'm such a task master. >> and rightly so, but that's the concern is that we are, there are conditions that prevail, an economic climate in the united states that could be far better. so we can see the opportunities. >> let's talk about the politics of that, right, because in a way, when it comes to the republican candidates right now who are going through the primary process, how challenging is it to run against a jobs number that is, you know, a graph that's kind of going up, right? no matter how you read it and it may not even be in the sectors that would be the best sectors, it's still a positive report. >> well, again, i welcome a positive report. i want nothing more than for our economy to recover completely and that has got to be a good. so it's not about partisanship and who is running. i endorse governor romney, i endorsed him back in november and i do feel that he has a very sound and healthy understanding of what makes an economy tick. i do worry about the president's fiscal approach. i'm certainly not going to be shy about that, but again, because look at what we're facing come 2013 and look at what the president's budget proposed, which is an enormous tax increase, at a time when we really need those dollars flowing into growth. he signed the jobs act yesterday. that was passed through the house and then through the senate. the house accepted the senate's amendment. that's designed to help our start-ups. >> will cain? >> i'm going to say soledad politically three messages from republicans, you heard two from representative hayworth, the length of the recovery and jobs. sume people can't hear so i want them to read it. >> barely. >> the length of the recovery is too long, there's -- >> do you have an e-mail where you get these from? i apologize to my good friend, will, for the recovery because it's messing up the conservative campaign. >> this is a legitimate explanation of what some of the arlgmentes will be, still a high level of debt, going through de-leveraging, external threats like iran. in the end, how do americans feel. most indicators like your take-home pay americans don't feel like the economy is in recovery. that will be the biggest impact on the election. >> the difference, will, this is what americans are doing, they're taking money out of their pocket, i disagree with the idea that we should always hope the recovery comes on the back of consumerism and people feel good, spend more and get into more debt. right now it's the only game we have and it's working. however you feel about this, the fact is americans are spending money, they're going out and -- >> i can read. i know we have a recovery in play. these are the questions about that recovery. >> you're looking for an excuse. >> are you really going to fight in front of the congresswoman? >> we're having a brawl and it's not between our guests and panelists as that sometimes happen. >> it's the effect i have on men. >> i like it. z>> republicans and democrats alike we have to think together how best we extend opportunity, growth, prosperity to as many americans as possible. one of the most telling things i heard recently, secretary geithner came to the financial services committee which i'm a member and he extolled the growth potential of increases taxes and felt that was a smart thing to do, so i asked him a simple question, not hostilely, i just asked him a question, could he point to any one of our 50 states, all of which have their own microclimate and tax and regulatory structures could he point to a state among the 50 that with a heavy tax and regulatory structure was growing better than a state with a lighter structure. >> we could point to the '90s or the '50s, a decade. >> he could not point to a state if which that's the case. we see it in new york >> and california and over and over. >> exactly, that they're all leaving. enterprise is leaving them and the worry is that enterprise and investment are leaving the united states. we have to worry about what the fed is doing to accommodate and accommodate monetary policy and accommodate an extraordinary level of government spending. we need spending restraint. we need a long-term view of the role of the federal government in the economy. the budget we passed in the house a couple of weeks ago accommodates those goals. >> the person who can manage that message the best is the person who really has the leg up in the election. got to move on. >> and the long-term role of the government and the economy is crucial. >> got to get to headlines. congresswoman, nice to have you. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. new analysis of george zimmerman's 911 call may shed new light on the trayvon martin shooting, after separating zimmerman's voice from cell phone interference, a forensic audio expert concludes zimmerman did not use a racial slur before he shot trayvon martin. he says the word zimmerman used was punks. here's that portion of the tape on a loop for you. these [ bleep ] punks. these [ bleep ] punks. these [ bleep ] punks. >> we're bleeping out the expletive. 7:30 eastern, soledad talks with attorney family natalie jackson for her reaction. rescue crews in alabama will search in daylight for a college student who fell overboard into a river. he was atending a sorority party on the "bama belle" when he fell into the river in tuscaloosa. police say alcohol was being served but it's not clear if alcohol played a role. new video overnight of the coast guard blasts an empty fishing vessel that was swept away by the japanese tsunami more than a year ago. so the called ghost ship was unlit, unmanned, adrift at sea. the coast guard decided to sink it because it posed a navigation threat for other vehicles in the area. it's good friday for christians around the world celebrating lent, the friday before easter sunday when christians remember the crucifixion of jesus christ. pope benedict xvi will lead services at the vatican at 5:00 p.m. this afternoon. the jewish passover begins at sundown, celebrates the exodus of ancient egyptians from slavery. the gsa, the general services administration, they're in charge of managing really the procurement for the federal government and the story was they had this lavish conference in las vegas, featured a clown, a mind reader and they ended up spending more than $825,000. >> it was a barmitzvah. >> basically yes a really, really good one. the gsa chief martha johnson and several other top administrators resigned from the fallout of that. now if you will say, piling bad on to worse, there is a video accompanying music rap video made for, by an employee for a contest held at the conference, and then the video itself mocks the excessive spending they were blasting in the report anyway. listen to it. ♪ atf can't touch gs 15 guns ♪ cause i buy everything rappers can't afford ♪ ♪ every g gets a top hat award ♪ donate my vacation, love to the investigation ♪ ♪ i'll never be under oig investigation ♪ >> ali said while that was playing ill advised but excellent. they were doing it off of the bruno mars, a parody of that. he ends with the line "i'll never be under oig investigation." >> let's put these bureaucrats in charge of the health care. >> in the one-minute segment i have here, will cain, work with me today. >> we always look for the deeper message. there is one. we don't to look very part. >> white people should stop rapping. >> he was good. >> no, he was not good. this og will visit oyg. >> ba 61, building operation of cal funds is one of the lyrics to work in and atf for alcohol tobacco and firearms can't touch these guns. >> he's not going to be employed by gsa. >> it's not about race. it's n is not eminem white? >> will cain brings all of these big issues with a capital i in my minute segment this morning. >> why did you steal fun and why are you shaved? what is going on with the facial hair. >> i noticed bradley cooper has been doing this. >> so usually other people should say that about your -- >> i'm doing the same thing, kojak has been doing that. >> government employees rapping, will cain and his hair. let's move on, ahead on "starting point" the senate's top republican has some pretty tough words for the president. listen. >> so i would respectfully suggest the president needs to back off. >> tough words, respectfully. mitch mcconnell says when it comes to health care the president's not respecting the supreme court. we'll tell you about that. plus our get real this morning, a good idea, handed inmate a metal iron club, a police officer is under investigation for taking a prisoner out for a round of golf because the prisoner was a really good golfer. you're about to head to work, don't miss the rest of the show, check out our live blog at cnn.com/starti cnn.com/startingpoint. we had congresswoman hayworth here a few minutes ago, this is from her playlist. m calling my . 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president obama to back off. he says president obama crossed a dangerous line when he commented on the supreme court's deliberations over health care reform. here's what he said. >> regardless of how the justices decide this case, they're answerable above all to the constitution that they swore to uphold. the fact that this president does not appear to feel similarly constrained to respect their independence doesn't change that one bit. so i would respectfully suggest the president needs to back off. >> i'm sorry you had to see him that enraged. her to the loafer tassels right now. >> "respectfully i would like to say" the department of justice is dialing back on the president's comments, attorney general eric holder has asked for a three-page single-spaced memo. >> he defied the court and wrote only two and a half pages. >> maybe he had no more to say, clarifying the president's comments and outlining whether the obama administration believes the court has the right to judicial review. the attorney general holder wrote this, "the power of the courts to review the constitutionality of legislation is beyond dispute." cnn's senior legal analyst jeff toobin has been following this case closely. >> this phony, ridiculous controversy marches on. >> i was about to say you were not super quotable because you were sort of saying these over the hissy fit and train wreck and yesterday was kind of -- >> he has to meet his own bar. >> and it's been met. this is about politics ultimately. >> it is and this started with the president saying this shocking thing that he thinks this law is constitutional and hopes the supreme court upholds it, a perfectly routine and ordinary sentiment for a president who after all signed the legislation. >> said more than that. what he said was if they did not, that would be the supreme court intervening. really it wasn't -- >> that would be unprecedented. >> it would be unprecedented, given these circumstances, that's what he said. the argument that others have made is if you parse his words carefully, he was saying that it would not be -- it would be unprecedented for the supreme court to overturn legislation which is ridiculous because he knows the supreme contract can overturn legislation. his own administration is asking the courts to overturn the defense of marriage act, doma, so it is hardly foreign to the president for overturning legislation. >> those of his his exact it would be unprecedented and extraordinary for an elected of men and women in black robes to overturn a majority decision in congress, like an overwhelming majority. i don't have to parse his words. he's questioning the legitimacy of the courts to overturn his favorite law. this is a rematch. we did this yesterday. >> but i wasn't here for it. >> he's questioning something at the same time he's asking the supreme court to do. >> that's not a question for me. that's a question for president obama. he seems to like to apply the law the way he sees fit. we don't have a red phone. >> it's theet per. you have the outrage machine everything obama says. >> will is very outrageous this morning. >> when bush was president there was a democratic outrage machine but this is not a real controversy. >> but a strategy for re-election, now it's been posited that a lot of this on the reaction from mcconnell on the right is a political strategy but also the entire thing is a re-election strategy for obama. >> there is a paradox here. republican voters especially republican voters in the base of the party feel very strongly about the courts, about issues like abortion, about same-sex marriage. democratic voters do not seem as motivated by the supreme court as an issue. perhaps that will change this year. i doubt it. it is something that the people who are most motivated by the supreme court in issue are the people who are going to vote for that party no matter what. swing voters, the people who decide the outcome of elections don't seem to care that much about the supreme court. it's very important substantively. i don't know how important politically it is. >> jeff toobin, always nice to have you. >> good to be here. >> we've gotten a chance to chat with jeff three times this week. >> lucky for both of us. >> yes it is. still ahead on "starting point," new audio released at the center of the bounty scandal. on tape you can hear him calling for the bounty on players. out of lockup and onto the links, how an inmate ended up doing time at a golf resort in catalina island. sounds like something we might all want to do, ahead on "starting point." [ female announcer ] introducing coffee-mate natural bliss. ♪ made with only milk... cream... a touch of sugar... and pure natural flavors. ♪ who knew being natural could be so delicious? coffee-mate natural bliss. from nestle. add your flavor naturally. ♪ billy jean is not my lover, she's just a girl who ♪ ♪ claims that i am the one >> what has happened to you today, will cain? >> something happened to him. >> he's dancing. oh it's ali velshi happened to you? >> will got his groove back. >> i like that. i like that. obviously michael jackson, "billy jean." we're going to separate the two of you. >> good thing this is a taped show. >> yes. you can see the entire playlist every morning on our website at cnn.com/starti cnn.com/startingpoint. our "get real" may be my favorite story of the day. question you have to ask yourself, how far would you go, ali velshi, to improve your golf game? >> hire a crook who happens to be a good golfer. >> ding, ding, that is the winning answer. los angeles county sheriff's captain in order to try to lower his handicap, they believe that he sprung a suspected and convicted jewel thief who also happens to be an expert golfer. from jail in order to get some free tips on his swing. jeff donahue is the name of the sheriff's deputy, allegedly took the prisoner to a course on catalina island, the yellow prison jump suit and wristband removed. >> spoils the mojo on the course. >> they put him into civilian clothes, polo shirt, dockers. >> took the leg irons off, convenient. >> i don't think he was wearing leg irons. one of the other deputies blew the whistle on the outing. donahue apparently said it was cleared by his boss, the l.a. county sheriff, and said u.nh-u wasn't me. >> tim rob bibins did the warde taxes in "shawshank." >> if somebody approved a prisoner outing they'll get to the bottom of who said this was okay. >> the guy served two years for stealing cash and jewelry from people at golf courses. >> he's got a remarkable familiarity with golf courses. >> not only skill on the golf course. >> reintegrate him back into society, take him to the scene of the crime. >> this is just like the episode of "oz." >> we're i

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