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>> okay, well that's kind of a bold prediction in a state where recent polling shows him trailing governor mitt romney by a few points. governor romney may have found added momentum with his win, he captured 83% of the vote, all 20 delegates. rick santorum was not able to garner much support. his own camp admitted damage was done when he told a local newspaper speaking english should be a requirement for puerto row coto gain state hood. "rick santorum has a consistent show and when he went to puerto rico and took a locally unpopular --" it's hard to get through it. >> shocking. >> "mitt romney on the other hand switched another of his positions to gain favor in puerto rico saying puerto ricans shouldn't have to learn english if they want to become a state." romney has twice as many delegates as any other candidates. tally he stands at 518 for governor romney. senator santorum with 239, newt gingrich has 139 and ron paul has 69 delegates for that congressman. so we're going to get to alice stewart in a moment. first let's talk about what we have heard from rick santorum. he is promising as he goes into this that if he wins illinois he will take the nomination. >> everyone's calling this joe namath moment, he guaranteed victory of the super bowl, before i was born. it is like like the joe namath moment. rick santorum is a massive underdog, he'd have to win 70% of the delegates. why not make a hail mary prediction. it hurts nothing. >> super bowl isn't about delegate counts at the end of the day about math. >> he's behind on the scoreboard. why not say this if i win this, i win the gail. >> i think will is right. there's no downside for rick santorum to say this. he's not a pundit, not a political analyst. this is a way of rallying the troops and also of saying you know what? despite all of these guys on cnn who talk about delegate math and so on, i think i still have a chance and it's not going to be a wasted vote. >> let's bring in alice stewart, the national press secretary for the santorum campaign. nice to see you. thanks for being with us. let's talk about pure pure pue rico. what do you think went wrong that the senate lost? >> first, we're grateful for the opportunity to be on and glass to have the chance to go to puerto rico and came but what rick santorum did when he withent to puerto rico he was on e, told them where he stood on the english language and wasn't doing anything to take away their heritage but encouraged them to speak english in addition to spanish and held true to his conservative principles, as opposed to mitt romney, who sold out for 20 delegates. rick santorum is not going to do that. he's going to be honest with them. mitt romney went on radio and said you don't have to speak english. continue to speak spanish. he and the governor there sold out to the people of puerto rico and said speak spanish, i won't require to you speak english and that is simply something that shouldn't happen. you shouldn't go down off the mainland and pander to a territory such as puerto rico for simply 20 delegates and rick santorum wouldn't do that. >> i think what he said was -- >> and that was a factor in the outcome of election. >> he wouldn't require english as a condition for state hood. let's talk about what he said for illinois, if i can win illinois, i can win the nomination. explain to me how that math would work? >> the romney folks like to talk about math quite a bit. we're looking at the rick's message and the momentum we have and his message is resonating. we've had great events in illinois. he overperforms on election day, in many states, alabama and mississippi, while we are behind a little bit in the polls in illinois we overperform on the primary day and rick's message is working. people across this country are not satisfied with the direction of the country currently, and they're not satisfied with the message of mitt romney. here he has name i.d. he has tremendous money advantage and he has a lot of support infrastructure on the ground. he is not winning overwhelmingly in these states. goes to show he's not energizing the base. rick santorum is doing that. >> i'll do some of the delegate math. in order to win the nomination, to get to 1,144 you would have to start picking up 66% of the delegates from here on out, roughly at the half way part. so far, you've been getting roughly a quarter of the delegates so that would be a big, giant tremendous change in how you've done heretofore. how could that possibly happen? >> it's not about the math but the message as i said. >> but actually it's about the math. it's a point t does become about the math. >> certainly, but while we'd love to take first place in all these states, we're racking up delegates in state after state after state. it doesn't have to be first place but second a lot of these states are proportional and we're garnering delegates and also it's important to note, soledad, a lot of the delegates are still unbound and they will be decided at convention whether at the state level or in tampa, and typically, the history has proven that the unbound delegates will be decided by the more conservative voters, conservative members of the party and those people will vote and show their support for rick santorum and not a moderate like mitt romney. >> so is the opposite of what senator santorum says also true if mitt romney, if governor romney is able to win illinois, then he wins the nomination? >> absolutely not. this is certainly a big milestone for us to do well in illinois but we also have states that are favorable to rick coming up next in the primary calendar, pennsylvania his home state being one of them. we have louisiana coming up, and these are states that will show support for rick santorum, and as i said, keep an eye on the unbound delegates. those are going to go toward the conservative candidate and nod towards mitt romney. more people are seeing mitt romney, puerto rico is a case in point, he will say one thing and do something completely different. he is not true to the conservative principles of himself and of the party, and we're seeing that also with the individual mandate. he told people he never advocated for the individual mandate on the national level. he's been saying that time after time and now he's saying op. ed in which he did on the national level. >> you need 65% plus of the delegates. >> the magic number is 1,144 and if it's not achieved by the time we go to tampa and we expect to see success as we get there. as i said when it gets to the unbound delegates an we get to convention, those are the hard core party people and they're going to sway toward the conservative candidate. they are not going to go towards the moderate candidate because with mitt romney all the issues that are important to people are off the table when that comes to obama care, cap and trade, when it comes to wall street bailouts. these important issues that people care about are off the table, but rick santorum has the contrast with mitt romney and president obama, can he debate obama on those issues and that's why the conservatives are rallies behind rick santorum. >> alice stewart thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> miss stewart told the truth about mitt romney he ran in florida saying he wouldn't require english to be the official language, that's why we call them reversible mittens. seems to say state's rights would allow a state to determine what language they want to speak. i think he was pandering to get votes back here, pandering off the mainland, i think that shores it up. >> what do you make of the math? >> john is wrong about the tenth amendment thing. we've had this debate about the conditions congress can put on states when they enter the union. i give rick santorum credit. he wasn't pandering. mitt romney pandered to the people of puerto rico. here's what i want to ask alice stewart when we get a chance to talk to her, what is the floor? what is enough to stay in the race. if the 1,144 doesn't matter, can he go out throughout the rest of this time winning 10% of the delegates, 5%? what it will keep him from going to that floor? >> doesn't the person who comes to 1,144 become the nominee? >> what if no one does. it was the emphasis on going to tampa and the brokered convention. that is clearly what she's -- >> they don't have the math. is it enough? >> she's talking about the unbound delegates and about a brokered convention and she is not focusing now on rick santorum making the number. she's focusing on mitt romney not making the number. >> i got to get to the headlines. >> give santorum credit for making puerto ricans want to vote more mitt romney. yemen militants are claiming responsibility for killing an american teacher. a group linked to al qaeda claims the teacher was killed for christian prosthelytizing. joel shrumm was shot to death sunday by two gunmen dressed in uniforms. robert bales is being held at ft. leavenworth prison in kansas while prosecutors prepare charges again him. afghan officials want bales returned to stand trial on afghan soil. bales single-handedly claim lly. protesters gathered to mark six months of the occupy movement. witnesses claim police gave protesters a little warning before kicking them out of the park and several were beaten while being arrested. nasty weather making its way across the country, spawned tornados in oklahoma and in nebraska. check out this incredible video, storm chasers catching a twister as it touched down in willow, oklahoma. luckily there were no reports of damage. in nebraska several homes were damaged by tornadoes but also derailed more than a dozen train rail cars as well. the ncaa march madness sweet 16 is now set. the biggest surprise, north carolina state, an 11 seed, upsetting number three georgetown to advance in the midwest regional. the wolf pack will face second seeded kansas on friday. american product i have in the workplace down substantially the next how many weeks? >> many. i don't know. other people tell me how much it does. >> i work the same no matter what. >> thank you, thank you. the story of a man who caused literally an international uproar when he told the world about the atrocities in the factories in china where apple products are made. turns out many of the claims were out and out lies, npr is retracting the story which ran on january 6th. it was an episode of "this american life" after learning that mike daisey's report was filled with factual errors. a clip from daisey talks about workers he spoke to who he said had been exposed to a dangerous chemical used to clean the glass on ipads and iphones. listen. >> it's great, because it evaporates a little bit faster than alcohol does, which means you can run the production line even faster and try to keep up with the quotas. the problem is that nhexane is a potent neurotoxin and all of these people have been exposed their hands shake uncontrolbally. >> their hands don't shake uncontrollably. apparently they loved the stage play he had done around the issue, self-described as a geek, loves technology and then brought him on to sort of talk about that at which point he sort of shifted into an amateur reporter is what they called him, and that's when things got very, very messy. a lot of his reporting was not correct. >> i don't think he ever sold himself as a reporter. he's a dramatist and it's sad it takes an incident like this to the headlines. as a one man show off broadway you have to fictionalize. >> for the show. for the show. >> absolutely. >> not for the interview you're doing around your show. >> when you're taking on a target like this, it is incumbent to be as honest as possible, you don't tell ira glass you visited ten factories when you only went to three and the real hero is the marketplace reporter who tracked down his translator. that was the one reason the shanghai based reporter found out that michael had fictionalized a great part of the story. >> robert schmidts was talking about the falsehoods. >> you visit when you were there? >> i believe i went to five. >> now you told ira ten. >> i know. >> okay. >> bow nut now that i'm looking it, i believe it was five. >> no, actually three. it wasn't five and it wasn't ten. this idea because he frames it as well you know this is a line about theater, and this is, you know, i shouldn't have, my biggest mistake was in -- >> going on "this american life." >> yes, absolutely. >> a couple points on this, it affirms a narrative that many wanted to already believe, there's a big bad corporation doing horrible things to people to put products in your hand that everybody wants to have, so we're all culpable. you know what? some of that might be true, but this guy just ruined that entire narrative for anyone who wants to seek that truth. >> a lot of it is true. >> i don't think he totally ruined the narrative. it does make me graceful to two upstanding media players here. npr did a great job in their retraction. it was more than, you know, a one-minute, there were some errors in our previous show. they went back and re-reported it. >> an amazing hour of radio. >> it should get real credit for that. i'm grateful to the "new york times" for their fantastic apple series. that covered a lot of the same ground and very carefully reported, less dramatically powerful maybe. >> right. >> but it covers the facts there. one-man show should stick to one-man shows and not into the reporting part. ahead on "starting point," politicians playing the blame game as we've seen over gas prices. will the promises save us any money at all. plus mother monster lady gaga wants to be a real life mom, she wants a soccer team of kids. how many kids is that? 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[ male announcer ] want great taste and whole grain oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios. ♪ ♪ please allow me to introduce myself ♪ ♪ i'm a man of wealth and taste ♪ that's off of jim burkhard's playlist. check out our playlist on our website cnn.com/startingpoint. the presidential candidates are hoping to turn the pain at the pump into political gain, that wouldn't be the first time in the history of the world that's happened. first let's get to some of the facts. the average price for a gallon of regular has gone up again this morning, it's now selling at $3.84 a gallon, up nearly 50 cents for the year, almost twice what it was when president obama took office and it's affecting the president's approval ratings, according to an abc/"washington post" poll, 50% disapprove, up nine points from last month, that disapproval number. governor romney says it's time to fire the people in charge of the oil supply. he says the president should get rid of energy secretary steven chu, get rid of interior secretary ken is alazha and epa administrator lisa jackson. listen. >> given the fact he now wants lower gasoline prices i think it's time for him to fire his gas hike trio. it's time for those three to be let go and to return to policies and get us the energy we need. >> jim burkhard is managing director of global oil group. nice to see you. he says get rid of the gas hike trio. do you think that would have an impact on gas prices? >> no, it wouldn't. >> long-term, not short term, not at all? >> probably not at all. the reason oil prices are high and consequently gasoline prices are high is because we have limited spare global production capacity, and that's exacerbated by the tensions related to the nuclear issue in iran. if the nuclear issue gets solved, and some of that tension goes away but that's a very difficult problem to solve. >> those are the biggest ifs we have going on in the country, maybe the world. the white house administration says there are no quick fixes to these rising gas prices. everyone just has to sit around and suffer through it. is that true? >> yes, that is true. the price of gasoline is non-partisan. it's part of a global oil market, global gasoline market and there are many factors around the world that shape that price, demand in china, production in the middle east, so it's difficult for any one country to exert unilateral influence over the price of oil. >> to say nothing of the impact of the weather and the fact that vladimir putin made a lot of promises to get reelected that require him needing the price of oil to be as high as possible. >> the oil exporting countries, their budgets have gotten used to higher oil prices and if there were to be a fall in oil prices some time in the next year that would have an adverse impact on the budgets of those countries. >> when newt gingrich says we'll see gas down to $2.50 a gallon if he is elected, let me play a chunk of that and i want to you comment on the other side. >> the president's been going around for two weeks because he began to realize two weeks ago that my campaign for $2.50 a gallon gasoline was catching on. and so he's made a whole series of speeches now on energy, and he keeps attacking us. now, his first attack he said there is no silver bullet. which is baloney. there is a silver bullet. it's called drilling. >> i'm caall for the campaign f $2.50 a gallon gas. >> everybody is. >> where do we sign on? is that realistic at all? ? there's no doubt that high gasoline prices are a big burden for american motorists but there is no short term fix. there is no short term fix to the limited amount of spare and global oil production capacity, there is no quick resolution to the iranian nuclear issue. >> jim, would the keystone pipeline have an impact maybe not short term but medium term or is it all just about the global oil market, doesn't matter where the oil goes? >> canada is our largest source of foreign oil to the united states by far, and the impact of keystone is medium to long-term, and ultimately the decision is going to come down, do we want more canadian oil in this country or not so that's a medium to longer term issue. >> that wouldn't be a price issue. it would be more a strategic access issue? >> both. if we foster more supply coming down from canada, if canada produces more oil to satisfy the american market, you have more supply, and at a given level of demand, more supply would tend to lower prices, so it's about getting oil from a secure, friendly source like canada and also allowing more oil supply into the global market. >> so soledad and jim, let me clarify one thing at the table, everyone agrees short term gas prices and how they attach to presidents is pandering from politicians. you asked jim a question at the beginning and used a term long-term. now chrystia is asking this question. mitt romney and the trio of other guys talks about high gas prices, is it not true that presidents have control over long-term prices, the decisions being made today could impact the price of oil several years down the road? >> policies in the united states can have an impact longer term, both on the deman

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