Transcripts For CNNW Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 201605

Transcripts For CNNW Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20160525

Trump may have, quote, something about women. Im wolf blitzer. Youre in the situation room . The state Department Inspector general has issued a longawaited report about Hillary Clintons use of her private email system while secretary of state. It was unauthorized and inappropriate and notes there were outside attempts to hack the system. Clintons Campaign Says the report shows her email practices were consistent with those of previous secretaries and senior officials. Donald trump is stepping up his attacks on Hillary Clinton, calling her a lightweight and low life. Hes also attacking Elizabeth Warren, democratic senator, calling her pocahontas. As protests rage at a trump rally in new mexico, he even attacks a popular Governor Susana Martinez for staying away. Can these women put trump on the defensive . Our correspondents and guests will have full coverage of the days top stories. Lets start with Sunlen Serfaty and the scathing new report on Hillary Clinton and her emails. What are you learning . Reporter wolf, Hillary Clinton has said time and time again that she believes she was in compliance with state department rules in setting up and using her private email server but this the ig report says exactly the opposite. Tonight, Hillary Clinton is back on the defensive. In a scathing 83page report, the state departments own Inspector General determined that clinton violated federal rules rules. It scolds the former secretary of state for conducting state Department Business on her own prit ate server. Clinton has pushed back on questions over her emails many times in the past telling cnns Brianna Keilar last july the truth is, everything i did was permitted and i went above and beyond what anybody could have expected in making sure that if the state department didnt capture something, i made a real effort to get it to them. Reporter but the report says that, quote, sending emails from a personal account to other employees at their Department Accounts is not an appropriate method of preserving any such emails. Clinton has also maintained that she had permission to use personal email. I opted for convenience to use my own personal account which was allowed by the state department because i thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal emails instead of two. Reporter but not so, says the report. They found no evidence that clinton or her staff confronted anyone at state before she decided to use her private server. The Clinton Campaign today trying to downplay the significance. Clinton spokesman brian fallon saying, the Inspector General documents just how consistent her email practices were with those of other secretaries and senior officials at the state department who also used personal email. They call out others for their use of email but notes the rules were updated the year clinton took office. Look, the emails, thats bad judgment. Reporter the email controversy has been a constant target for donald trump. She had a little bit of bad news today, as you know, some reports that came down that werent so good. But not so good. The Inspector Generals report, not good. Reporter and the new findings are likely to hand him even more ammunition to bring to the general election fight ahead. For her to be able to continue to run is an absolute disgrace, in my opinion, to this country. Reporter and there has been considerable pushback not only from the state department who says they have already made many of the changes but also from democrats on capitol hill. Sunlen serfaty, thank you very much. Evan has been spending a lot of time on this. What surprises you the most. Well, the fact that the secretary of state decided not to cooperate with an investigation for the Inspector General for the department that she left and neither did her aides, which is surprising because shes not only former secretary of state but shes running for president and four other secretaries of state did cooperate as did the current secretary of state john kerry. Did anyone at the state department raise any red flags or somebody to what was going on with the private email server at the time or was it only after this whole story blew up, shall we say, when she was running for president that this became an issue . Well, according to this report, a couple of lower level people did raise some concerns about the use of this private server, wolf, and they raised it to their supervisor, a Civil Service person inside the state department. What they were told was that its been approved from high up and they should not raise it again. Now, we know from the report that they never as sunlen just mentioned, they never got any approval from the Legal Department or the security at the state department for the use of this server. Evan perez, thank you. Now for the Clintons Campaign response to the Inspector Generals report, im joined by the Campaign Press secretary brian fallon. Thank you for joining us. Hi, wolf. Thanks for having me. Lets get through this. The secretary always said that what she did was allowed for under the rules but this says that the state department did not and would not have approved on her exclusive reliance on a personal email account. If she didnt get approval, doesnt that mean that she broke the rules . No, wolf. I think what the secretary has said that the use of personal emails by the state allowed. That was confirmed. The rules were enacted after she left. At the time that she took office and the duration of her tenure there, the use of personal email for work purposes was not disallowed and, in fact, as documented in great detail by the report, personal email was utilized by 90plus different top officials at the state department over the years that they looked at including two other secretaries of state besides Hillary Clinton. The practice was widespread. If you look at those top officials, 90plus top officials, it seemed to be the rule rather than the exception. That was upheld by the report today. These other officials did use personal email but only three officials used it exclusively. Former secretary of state colin powell, former ambassador to kenya and the others also had government email accounts. These were the only three that used it exclusively and the report concludes that there was no evidence that the secretary requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business by a personal email account on her private server. Well, wolf, lets get to the heart of the question. And that is, were records preserved . Were they retained in keeping with the rules and regulations that required them to be preserved and retained. And evenle though she used emails for personal business, she did make it a practice of seeking to make sure that there would be a permanent record preserved of all of the workrelated emails. Her way of doing that was to ensure that there was someone on a state. Gov account or on the correspondents. When the state department looked back and said because of our shoddy record keeping, there are two years where we should have the records but dont, she came forward and because she had not gotten rid of those workrelated emails, because she had preserved them, she was able to turn over 55,000 pages of workrelated emails. And so brian, who gave her the legal opinion that she could exclusively use a private email server, a private email account for all of her workrelated business . Wolf, im not sure if it was ever contemplated that a specific opinion, a legal opinion was needed considering that this was the practice of her predecessor as secretary of state and a person of colin powell as well at top aides to Condoleezza Rice and the idea that the state Department Inspector general is putting forward today that in retrospect if they had been approached they would have suggested, well, maybe dont use the personal server from the standpoint of whether records were preserved or not, thats beside the point. She kept all of the records. 55 pages were turned over. In that respect, she far exceeded any of her predecessors who used ample use of personal email in the way that she did. The report says specifically and ill read it to you by secretary clintons tenure, the departments guidance was more detailed and more sophisticated. There were different rules in place for her that she apparently didnt obey. Well, they were very careful with their wording in that passage and thats for a reason. Why its true that they were updated but not to the point where they allow personal use. Thats why personal use of email for work purposes was still allowed under the rules in place at the time. The report quotes a staff member working for Hillary Clinton as saying this, raising concerns. One staff member raised concerns that information sent and received on secretary clintons account could contain federal records in order to satisfy federal recordkeeping requirements. According to the staff member, the secretarys personal system had been reviewed and approved by the Department Legal staff and that the matter was not to be discussed any further. So two questions, who approved it and why couldnt it be any further . Ive seen the passage of that report and this is career employee and whoever gave those instructions was not reflecting anything that had ever been said about the secretary or cheryl mills, her chief of staff, were unaware of what the basis was that is and instructions that were given from the secretarys office. The report states that Hillary Clintons use of a personal email system to Contact State Department employees was, quote, not an appropriate method of preserving emails that could constitute a federal record and then quotes the secretary from back in 2010. The deputy chief of staff emailed the secretary that we should talk about putting you on state email or releasing your email address to the department so you are not going to spam. In response, the secretary wrote, lets get separate device b device. Was the purpose to prevent her private emails going public . No, that was not the purpose. Let me break that down. The instance there related to a fact that some of her emails were being sent to a spam gold folder. It was preventing their ability to conduct work over email. So as a remedy, perhaps we should look at setting you up on a state. Gov email account for work purposes and the secretary expressed openness which in my mind contradicts the claim and in fact reflects openness. She certainly didnt want to intermix her personal correspondence on her work email. She e she. But the report clearly says she did something she says she did nothing wrong but the report clearly contradicts that. Thats the bottom line, right . Look, a big reason why the report finds that it was unacceptable and fell short for her to be using this habit of copying her aides on her t correspondence is to ensure that the records were being preserved and certainly with the benefit of hindsight, if we were aware that the recordkeeping system were not tracking that correspondence, i think she would have found a way. The report also says there are a lot of emails that were missing. The department and the office of the Inspector General both determined that the production included no email covering the first few months of secretary clintons tenure. Why were these emails missing . Why were they deleted . That much is not new, wolf. Thats been a fact long november to those who have followed this issue closely. Because there was a period when she was using an old blackberry and had no, sir transitioned to the server. During her first part of her tenure as secretary of state to turn over 55,000 pages to the state department, she was only able to retrieve and produce all of the emails that were still presiding on the server and since the emails were not available for her to turn over. I want you to stand by. Were going to continue this conversation right after a quick break. World sale is on honors members save up to 25 on brands like hampton, doubletree, hilton garden inn, and waldorf astoria so stop clicking around. Book direct at hilton. Com now thats satisfaction. Life feels a little lighter, potency probiotic, livelier, a little more you. Ultimate flora probiotics. Were getting reaction to a scathing new report from the state Department Inspector general while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state for four years. Brian, if she didnt do anything wrong and had nothing to hide, why didnt she cooperate with the Inspector General and answer his questions . Well, wolf, this is not the only federal review thats taking place with respect to Hillary Clintons email arrangement. As you and your viewers know, theres an ongoing review being undertaken by the Justice Department and in fact that review was first sought by this same office issuing this report, the state department ig. To our mind, it made sense to prioritize the review being conducted by the Justice Department and so according to Hillary Clinton has said since last august that shell be happy to sit with them at whatever point they approach her, which has not happened yet, and has encouraged all of her aides to cooperate in every way with that Justice Department review. Beyond that, she has answered every question on this topic from a number of different sources. Let me interrupt for a moment. The Inspector General is the top investigator at the state department. This Inspector General was appointed by president obama. Dont you think she would have wanted to cooperate with the Inspector General or get to the bottom of this . T wolf, as i said, we made the decision to prioritize the Justice Department review. Why couldnt she do both . They are assessing the same set of facts. Why couldnt she answer questions from the state Department Inspector general and Justice Department when they call called on her to answer questions . Quite frankly, wolf, it was always of concern to us and we never could quite make sense of why this review by the state department ig was proceeding on it is own timeline when it was the same office that suggested that the Justice Department undertake it is review. Because heres the problem, brian. She did a News Conference and answered a lot of questions about the email, the email server and all of that. If she had time for the news media and shes going to have time for the Justice Department, why disrespect the state department and not go to a meeting and answer a whole bunch of questions . I think its important to take a step back here, wolf, and understand that, as everybody knows, she sat through an 11hour session with the House Benghazi Committee which has made it its business. That was not on the email server. I raised it because the Benghazi Committee included emails. They didnt spare any emails in terms of the degree to which they probed Hillary Clinton in the matter of her server and she sat through rounds of questions from the House Oversight committee with republicans that were happy to try to make this a painless experience for her. In addition to that why disrespect the Inspector General . To add to that, the same aides, in addition to being questioned by the same Benghazi Committee, are also now submitting to depositions from rightwing groups like Judicial Watch that have filed lawsuits about this same issue. So Hillary Clinton and her top aides involved in this are answering questions from different folks who are interested in getting to the bottom of this. Youre a former spokesperson of the Justice Department. It looks as if she has something to hide which she doesnt even want to answer questions from the Inspector General of the state department. No. Look, wolf, if she had anything to hide, she wouldnt be volunteering to go ask questions from the state department which the stakes will be much higher than from the state igs office. At the same time, when the Justice Department was already looking to this same issue. Its a question raised by this office during the course of the investigation. There were reports about individuals coming forward in this office and suggesting that there were hints of an anticlinton bias. Thats interesting. Are you accusing the Inspector General of the state department of having an anticlinton bias . And

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