our participation of actors. >> starting off as guest stars, then we became supporting actors. >> who the hell are you any way? >> who am i? you will find out very soon. very soon. >> then we became lead actors >> we don't run, we stick together and we fight. >> get out of my house. >> drama is where all of the conflict happens. >> scandal is my favorite drama. >> how many times have i told you what you have to be. >> everything about it, the twist, the terms, the acting. >> twice as good. >> twice as good as them to get half of what they have. >> i love queen sugar. david makes man. i like the intimacy of that world that is being depicted. >> definitely new york undercover. >> you stupid, turn around. >> a positive role, a great thing to see someone who looks like you, a pivotal moment to figure out who i was. >> america drama almost doesn't, it doesn't exist without black people now. - that's right, hank plummer. you know, i can find him? - yeah, he's right here. it's me. - you know, for a long time, the only way that . for somebody? >> that's right, hank plumber, do you know where i can find him? yeah, he is right here, its me. >> for a long time the only way you can measure the drama of genre was if black actors got to participate in it. not star, not have their own series but participate in. a lot of times it was you are the sidekick or the guest star. not as the head honcho of a program >> don't come in, mad, this ain't no protest meeting. integrated couples are not allow flood in the 1960s america was changing, in the civil rights era. black people are demanding things. they are demanding not only civil rights but fair representation. and things were starting to change. they were starting to listen. 1963 for example, the great sissy tyson starred in "east side west side" was the first exam ample of a black woman in a show. >> when i was very young, still in baton rouge i saw tyson "east side west side" a show that took place in new york with her little afro and, you know, just like where did this woman hail from? >> this is early. it was a time before the afro had widespread acceptance. she is not playing a maid, she is a secretary, she is poised, she brings a whole other thing to the tube. i think it was important that tyson did that. >> you want company? if you want to. and then the real shift does come with "eye spy." >> the character that bill cosby played, andrew scott, was suave, took missions outside of the u.s., very much equal to his wife counterpart. >> now, it does deal with there's two spies who are working really for truth, justice and the american way. >> and i suggest we use ec in dealing with these men. >> extreme caution. >> certainly. >> it is reflecting, now, that america is becoming more integrated and becoming more integrated in different areas. the executives at nbc like the pilot but they say can you get rid of the black guy? they did not feel cosbee would work. sydney refused. he stuck with cosby on that. >> this time, no element of surprise, no car crashes. >> he won an emmy for that. the series won a golden globe in 1967. >> certainly i think it say landmark moment but then you think how much time passed from the time he had that role and a notion of equal billing between the two, you know, it took forever to get back to that again. >> also, white america had to acknowledge that something had changed. not just on television but in america. >> immediately after "i spy" 1966 was called the year of the negro on television. you had shows like "star trek" and then this show with a black woman in outer space. then you had "mission impossible" and you had greg mars in there. you had more black performers coming on series. now, it is being seen that tv should change. and, african americans are appearing in an important significant roles. supporting characters are fine, but the lead characters were still going to be white. one show, though, think about it, is different. "room 222". >> good morning. >> good morning, mr. dixon. >> it was set in an incredibly diverse high school in los angeles. and the lead character was played by lloyd hayes. he plays pete dixon. >> mr. butcher. >> sir? >> they will be expecting me in the detention room. if i don't show up they will think something happened to me >> it was ambitious. you get a sense that the characters were influenced by sydney potiere's character. the black teacher. but, that, again, an important show because you had black performers in nonstereo non-stereotypical. >> two people died. >> it gave us great shows and characters and performances by denzel washington in "saint elsewhere," blair underwood. >> and the '80s was a great decade. it was a decade of access. >> i like being head and shoulder above everyone else. >> mr. t. was a great character that people still talk about today [music] blair underwood for most black women of a certain age back then, he was so handsome. he was fabulous. >> tell us a bit about yourself. >> well, let's see. my mother is an attorney. my father say professor of economics at uc riverside. >> i mean i like the show any way but the addition to his character to the show was amazing. he was our heartthrob >> gentleman, it has been a genuine honor and a pleasure, thank you very much. >> "l.a. law" was a huge hit out of the box, out of the gates. i office that show for seven years and it was not until maybe my sixth or the last year of the show before i even had a love interest on the show. everybody else had lines, well- rounded, fully fleshed out churches and lives. and my character was big as the other ones. part of it is, what do people feel comfortable with doing. was write the humanity, i will bring the black part of it. so, it has been a journey. we have to get to the point where we have the privilege and the right as artists to play all kinds of characters. i smile because i know how far we have come. we have ways to go but i know how far we have come, that is exciting. >> do you think the lakers can win another title? >> you bet. >> basketball is the sport of the decade. you got the kids on the team now. the bus empire is taking off . they had their minute, now it is over. ♪ jitterbug! 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i remember watching it and we would go to school and talk about it but there was a weird underlining racial part. we were not spending as much time with our white classmates because we were off and we were off because we did not learn this in school. >> one of the things about "roots" it was a book addedtation. >> like the women of bewster place. starring oprah winfrey. >> it was part of. when she got the rights to "brewster place" it had a track record and because oprah was big enough she could populate it with people with name recognition. >> i bet you have a new fella. >> the women of "brewster place" in 1989 broke ground of the kinds of woman that were represented in that show. >> it is a drama about women, black women and their tensions, their conflicts, their problems with men, their friendships with one another. >> it was very kind of cutting edge and forward. >> what could black women who are typically invisible in this country, what could we be going through? what could be some of our hard ships, joys, vulnerabilities? i think can we do more on television and drama? but it opened up a pathway to what we see today. >> negro beauty culture is america's first self--made female millionaire >> self-made is a story about tj walker not the first fee male american millionaire. she made her fortune in hair care. she came along at a time it was post civil war, post slavery >> give me one. >> black folks had a need to present themselves, you know, we call it the politics of respectability >> that was a dream team of incredibly talented woman, you know. the idea they were all involved in "self-made" and were able to bring their sense of history, their desire to be authentic in the story telling to have that kind of creative collaboration. you can not replicate that with somebody who does not understand the experience of what it is to be a black woman in america, right? >> when they see us t is about a case that involved five black and latino youths that were falsely accused of beating and raping a white jogger in central park in 1989. >> no kid gloves here. these are not kids, they raped this woman. our ahead jogger deserves this. >> the brilliant miniseries, the show ran and led and produced. not only let her experience as a filmmaker as a writer, director, it was helpful and impactful with making that and having it resinate the way it did and she is the ceo of her own country >> can we interrogate what happened in the past to not replicate it in. >> "when they see us" sometimes you have to show it how it felt not how it happened but how it felt. >> they beat her with their fists, she was raped by four youths. >> i was in new york city in 1989. and, i have to say that being caught up in the moment of everything that happened and the way it was designed for me to process and to take it in, i mean, it did its job. so much to the degree that it was not until i watched the miniseries that i really understood the whole story. >> ava's work in general changes the landscape. it gives us new language. we don't call the central park five the central park five and that is for good reason. thanks to ava and plane others who helped her make "when they see us" we call them the exonerated five. >> what has been encouraging to watch is our evolution when it comes to how our stories are being told on screen. for the longest time we were footnotes in history. we were used as props to tell other people's stories. to tell white stories. we should be the keepers of our stories. we should be the lens through which that truth is filtered and we are seeing that now. humans have evolved many skills. fighting bugs isn't one of them. that's why stem harnesses active ingredients found in plants that target nerves bugs have but you and your family don't. stem. rooted in nature. optimized by science. salonpas lidocaine flex. a super thin, flexible patch with maximum otc strength lidocaine that contours to the body to relieve pain right where it hurts. and did we mention, it really, really sticks? 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(bright upbeat music) - police work, and we can handle it without a lot of unnecessary and dangerous james bond jazz from the da's office. - in the 1960s and 1970s, we had an explosion of crime shows, ke "starsky & hutc it ish," handle it without a lot of james bond stuff from the da's office. >> we had crime shows starring black actors. >> it is only 15 stories down and you don't have to worry about the first 14. >> tall, glamorous, gorgeous woman, you know, being tough and all of that on the heels of foxy brown. to have it on tv it was like yes. >> i would like to warn you anything that you say may be used against you. >> that was like seeing our wonder woman, you know? >> i wish i can say teresa graves opened the door but from diane carol and graves starring in "get christie love" it took another 40 years before we had another female lead of a drama. ridiculous. >> 1980s, the decade of excess, the television was big giant dramas. >> you are out of this operation, tubbs, as of now >> there is no operation without me, crockett >> we have bill cosby now we get tubbs on "miami vice" smooth, swaggering, fashion sense that, you know, eclipsed alex scott on "i spy" the characters were 20 years apart but speaking to one another. >> i remember it has a fashion show more and more than anything else. you know, the pastels, the collars, he was the black guy that white dads were worried their daughters would bring home. that was coolness and it went with making different types of black characters acceptable to an audience. >> new york undercover appeared in 1994, two years before the uprising of the not guilty in the rodney king beating case "new york undercover" was one ever the first shows ever to have two lead actors who were of color as detectives fighting crime and, you know, you did not see that all of the time. >> fbi, fbi. >> we represented hip hop. we were a young black and latino. we were two detectives that were from the streets that decided that they wanted to be on the right side of the law. and, protect their community. >> get the gun out. >> new york undercover was the must-see tv, it was on fox, it was different, and that drama genre. >> fox was the new kid on the block. they were more open to new ideas [music] ♪ throw your hands in the air you a true player. >> a nonnetwork kind of show. "new york undercover" is a precursor to a lot of the crime dramas with black leads that now we take for granted. >> we were very intentional with a show like "new york undercover" so many people that guest starred on that show. towers, elis, tyra banks. >> it was the it was. it was one of the best shows in history. i would argue that put new york on the cover right up there with that. >> yeah, man, this week i stepped on it, it is agitated. >> they are still buying it, though >> they you buying twice as much. >> there were several crime series following the black characters. and, people were really drawn to those stories from both within and outside of the community. >> i always felt that the wireness grow out of "super fly" and "new jack city" the whole thing, drug business, black men, so forth, and the wire really presents a new generation of people in the drug world. you have stringer bell, played perfectly by elba. he is studying in school, preparing himself for his future. >> it is going to be a whole lot more if this beef keep up. >> we were able to speak on something such as urban decay. >> better woman than you fallen for my tricks, right? >> i am proud to have stumbled into the first black lesbian cop ever on television. again, way too late in history to have had that happen, 2002 "the wire" inspired me so much, we were with those young people but we were in their very adult world and challenges. it is one of the reasons i reached out to michael b. jordan to be a producer. i thought his performance as wallace, in that show. i want to cry. we looked up and that young powerful caring individual living in all of that turmoil. >> do it it >> he was gone. i know wallace, i was wallace. >> i think the legacy of the wires now that it is being taught in schools and not only is it being taught but student comes into the classroom already knowing something about it. et the look you want for less. you got this. we got you. living with metastatic breast cancer means i cherish my memories. but i don't just look back on them, i look forward to the chance to make new ones every day with verzenio. verzenio is proven to help you live significantly longer when taken with fulvestrant. verzenio + fulvestrant is for hr+, her2- metastatic breast cancer that has progressed after hormone therapy. diarrhea is common, may be severe, or cause dehydration or infection. at the first sign, call your doctor, start an antidiarrheal, and drink fluids. before taking verzenio, tell your doctor about any fever, chills, or other signs of infection. verzenio may cause low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infection that can lead to death. life-threatening lung inflammation can occur. tell your doctor about any new or worsening trouble breathing, cough, or chest pain. serious liver problems can happen. symptoms include fatigue, appetite loss, stomach pain, and bleeding or bruising. blood clots that can lead to death have occurred. tell your doctor if you have pain or swelling in your arms or legs, shortness of breath, chest pain and rapid breathing or heart rate or if you are nursing, pregnant, or plan to be. i'm making future memories every day with verzenio. ask your doctor about everyday verzenio. ♪ ♪ comfort deluxified kraft mac & cheese deluxe new dove men bodywash gives you 24 hours of nourishing micromoisture. that means your skin still feels healthy and smooth now... now... ...and now too. get healthier, smoother feeling skin all day. 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(upbeat music) - we don't see black people in that nine o'clock dramatic slot. we might see one on "l.a law," or here and there, "i'll fly away", but they're not the center t. . we don't see black people at 9:00 dramatic spot. we might see one on "l.a. law" but they are not at the center of what the show is about >> i don't recall black drama pitched often. >> you can say it was an outcome of the terence thomas hearings to show that black people can hold an audience without taking their clothes off. >> they were under the impression that their advertising dollars would be lower. there was a sense that my colleagues did not want basically an all black cast. >> as long as we can make you laugh then it is comfortable. wherever you playing dramatic roles and taking on a different persona it is uncomfortable. >> i don't think it would be true today but it was true 20 years ago. >> now, we all run our mouths about how precious this family tradition is. but suddenly when it is at my house i am the only one that can make time for it? >> soul food, tv series, another show that influenced a culture. shout out to tillman that did the movie. i love the movie "soul food" but then it spun off into a tv series. you think about it, it is about the dynamics with a black family. it made a lot of people connected to their families, girlfriends, to the drama and all of the craziness that us color folks deal with. you know, there is always going to be somebody in "soul food" you can connect to. as black families we are not just one thing we are many things. that is actually what television should be all about. >> baby, can you take her >> when we were at showtime we decided we wanted to adopt "soul food" into a tv show we thought it was important from a cultural perspective to have someone that can tell the stories ethically, we reached out to felicia henderson. a lot of the stories were stories she generate friday her own life. >> it is hard to be the first. you know, it is hard to be part of a group of the first. i think that as black people we deserve to be seen as three dimensional characters. we deserve for you to see us with all of our frailty. i don't think it is negativity. i think it is human. >> come here. 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(upbeat music) (dramatic orchestra music) - i believe that the future of black television comes in ownership, and it comes in all the people now that are investing in programming, but not programming to your traditional places, but programming to places that we own, we operate, and we can have our own voice. - at the end of the day, for any business, you wanna own things. i mean, and until you own it, until you're creating it, you don't truly have power over it. at the end of the day for any business, you want to own it. i mean, until you own it and are creating it, you don't truly have power over it. >> you remember the first time we came in here? >> yeah. >> we sat right here. >> you knew i was scared to death. >> how has oprah changed the game ownership? that is how it changed the game, having her own network in own, and saying this is the type of programming i want on my network and this is what we are going to do, so they did it. >> no back talk. >> by having these three very different shows on at the same time, queen sugar, green leaf, there are a myriad of stories to tell about black people, and if we have done one, we have done our job because then other channels and networks can look at the success of the programs on that network and try and replicate it. >> when i was trying to find a place, i was trying to figure out what we could look out, so everybody did not think everybody was like david. a lot of us are like david, but not everybody. that's how they are changing the landscape, giving us all room to play. >> you have all of these black people in the distribution, and you have tyler perry and oprah winfrey, byron allen, not just producing and not just directing, and not just show running, but also distributeing content on their own networks, and no disrespect to the stars, but that's 50 cent's network. >> they were talking about putting together a music driven series, and i was grateful because it was specifically about new york and drug dealing, and they let me write my show and run my show. >> what's this about, man? it's payback time. >> there was the equation of shifty being somebody that lived the life, so you already set up the streets validating it first and foremost. >> the streets will tell you if something is righteous, and authenticity is everything. that's why we do this. >> my whole career i have been answering questions like, well, is that really? yeah, it is. let me say that again. yeah, it is [ bleep ]. yeah, it is. the woman i answer to is of color, and we have shorthand. that is a new convenience and that did not happen overnight. >> i need to tell you something, i went out one time and a stranger put something in my drink. excuse me? >> you got to watch your drinks. >> in the acceptance speech she gave when she won an emmy for writing on the show, she spoke about the importance of giving your heart to space and a time and the room it deserves to breathe. kind of how she did that with her show was turning down a $1 million deal with netflix to prioritize of oepbg twning the material. >> her gracious is expensive. it takes so much courage, more curage than people realize. >> black dramas are going forward. we are the story. most people can see some reflection of themselves, and we're not compromising. >> i feel like black ownership has allowed us to move into the revolution. i think it allowed us an opportunity to re-imagine ourselves to re-imagine who we could be and correct some of the things that are not true about ourselves a as culture, and it actually is a chance for rehabilitation through art, and it's something not to take lightly. where we are right now is a shift and it's a celebration because it's been a long time coming, you know. it's been a long time coming. jerry: where'd you get those? kramer: the machine. you want one? jerry: no. henry winkler: you come home, turn on that television. kramer: take one. jerry: i don't want one! kramer: no there good... jerry: i don't want it. henry winkler: what do you want? you want comedy. kramer: take one! jerry: no! kramer stop it!