jerry nadler says the house democrats have no intention of letting this go. we will have major hearings, he says, barr and mueller are just the first. we will call many other people. we'll see who they are. super. everybody buckle up, we're still on this ride, apparently. look, the report revealed a number of truly damning episodes involving the president and his efforts to sabotage the investigation into russian election tampering. they include attempts to get robert mueller fired, attempts to unrecuse then attorney general jeff sessions, attempts to curry favor with then fbi director james comey, attempts to then blame the doj for comey's eventual firing. attempts to get dni director to publicly exonerate trump's connections to russia. the good news is nearly a dozen people in the administration wouldn't carry out his requests to obstruct on his behalf. and in doing so, they saved him from himself and likely saved his presidency. donald trump owes don mcgahn, james sessions, james comey, and others a big, wet, sloppy kiss on the lips. he doesn't see it that way wagging in his angst statements are made about me by certain people in the crazy mueller report in itself written by 18 angry democratic trump haters which are fabricated and untrue. watch out for people that take so-called notes when the notes never existed until needed. that was followed by some very not suitable for work language directed at mueller, the media, and the democrats. much like my 4-year-old, sometimes you just got to let them cry it out, but where do we go from here? let's be honest, there's plenty in that report that should worry american voters. a president who'd rather protect his own self-interests than get to a foreign entity attacking our elections, one that would go to great lengths to hide his actions, who would use his justice department, law enforcement, intelligence and press shop to lie and muscle his will around the democratic process. house speaker nancy pelosi promised to keep up congressional oversight of the president. some congressional democrats are demanding his impeachment. nadler, like we said, announced a subpoena seeking mueller's full unredacted report and its underlying documents. the doj is dismissing that request calling it both premature and unnecessary. here's the deal. what the president has done may not be illegal but it is appalling. it should worry all-americans, not just democrats or republicans. this president is unfit to lead. he has shown time and time again his utter disdain for democratic process. separation of powers, the law. he's got to go. but not by impeachment. the reality is without bipartisan support for such a drastic and disruptive maneuver it will only rip us apart even further and that benefits trump, not america. beat him at the ballot box. beat him with ideas and policies. beat him with an agenda that doesn't divide us further, that isn't just designed to piss off half the country or punish people who voted for him. beat him with respect, hope, and optimism. it shouldn't be that hard. all right. let's talk to a house democrat who sits on the oversight committee. congressman ro khana. welcome, congressman. >> that was pretty good, the monolog. maybe you should announce for president. >> no thanks. i'll leave the public service to you guys. let's talk about the mueller report. it didn't find collusion. it didn't actually decide on obstruction but it was damning. what worried you the most about what you've seen so far? >> the most concerning part for me was mueller's conclusion that the russians engaged in sweeping and systematic efforts to interfere in our elections. russians didn't just target the clinton campaign, they were targeting county governments, state governments, former secretary of states. you have reports of the president unwhitingly retweeting russian agents. we are a long way off from safeguarding our democracy to make sure that that type of behavior never happens again. >> so what's your take on the doj response to the request for the full report? they say that that's premature and unnecessary. what do you think? >> i think they're wrong. i mean, in america there's no secrets. things usually come out, and i'd rather they be transparent. let's get the report out so that there aren't conspiracy theories. and if they don't want every member of congress to see it, they should at least show it to the house leadership and to the chairman of the judiciary committee. >> so do you support impeachment efforts like some of your colleagues? >> i think that's premature. i don't -- i support nancy pelosi's position. let's have bob mueller testify. let's make sure we have investigations. as you said, s.e., in your monolog, yes, we have to hold the president accountable, but we also don't want to rip this country apart in further polarization. i'd rather we have a positive agenda for the nation. >> yeah. as i mentioned, a number of people within the trump administration and within the federal government refuse to carry out the president's request to help him obstruct investigations. so what's your view of what, you know, chris christie, cory lewandowski, jeff sessions, what they did to stop trump? >> they basically followed the responsibility as citizens. i mean, that's the least we can expect. i remember my elementary school teachers in rolling hills saying you've got to follow the law as americans, and so i'm glad they lived up to that basic obligation. >> well, i hear you, but, i mean, just to look at this historically. some might say that not enough people in the george w. bush white house stood in the way of the iraq war and its questionable premise or that not enough people in the obama white house stood in the way of illegal drone wars. isn't it a good thing that there were at least a dozen dissenting voices to stand in trump's way? >> yes, it is, and it's one of the paradoxes of this administration. you want good people to be there and yet serving in this administration puts you in a hugely compromised position. >> right. >> but i'm glad that there are voices there who are willing to stand up to the president. >> well, i want to go back to your answer to my first question, the most disturbing part of this, because it seems like the thing other people kind of get lost on this is punishing russia for trying to interfere in our elections. the deter act, defending elections from threats by establishing red lines has been reintroduced in the u.s. senate opposite chamber. what's more important to democrats in your view, finding an obstruction charge somewhere or sanctioning russia to prevent another attack? >> i think we need to sanction russia. what we need to work on in a bipartisan basis is to make sure that we have defenses against cyber attacks. we need to have bills that can help technology companies work with law enforcement to prevent whether it's russia or china from interfering. so much of our critical infrastructure is still susceptible to cyber attacks. that's what i think should be the most mueller report. >> why do you think the president hasn't decided to announce a panel, a focus group to examine this? i mean, in a political, you know, strategy sense it would sort of help alleviate some of the concerns, but it would also just be the right thing to do. why hasn't he done that and have you heard from any of your republican colleagues that very call? >> well, i have had a constructive conversation with kevin mccarthy, the leader of the republican party in the house, and we are actually working on legislation to try to solve this issue. it's in the president's self-interests, frankly, to acknowledge that the russians interfered and to say that we need to do more to safeguard our democracy, to safeguard our critical infrastructure. i think he just can't get himself to say that because he feels that that's undermining the legitimacy of his election and his own ego prevents him from doing that. but it's clearly in a self-interest to do that from a political standpoint. >> i would think so, too, but what do i know. representative ro khana, thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. >> thanks, s.e. up next, how are the 2020 candidates handling the mueller news? 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[laughter] (vo) go national. go like a pro. see what i did there? so how are the 2020 candidates handling the mueller news? differently. well, some have been cautious avoiding it altogether, here's elizabeth warren last night. >> look, this is not something i want to do. that's not the point. it's a point of principle, and every member of the house and every member of the senate should be called on to vote. do you believe that that constitutes an impeachable offense? i do believe that the evidence is just overwhelming that donald trump has committed these offenses, and that means we should open proceedings in the house and then the house can take a vote. >> well, as for the rest, here's a look at how they're hitting the president on the stump today. >> what do you have to say about donald trump? i said, what i have to say about donald trump is i love you. i don't want you to be my president, but i'm not going to let your twistedness, your meanness pull me down so low as to make me hate you. >> our founders rightly were suspicious of an over bearing executive. that's why they sets up all these checks and balances. it starts with simple things that a president shouldn't be above the law. not treating the attorney general like your own private counsel. >> cnn's kim law is with kamala harris campaign in orangeburg, south carolina. how has she handled this? >> reporter: well, we've seen her basically weave it out over this entire weekend after making some strong comments to reporters before starting this three-day swing through south carolina, s.e. i'm at the third town hall she's held, and in all of those town halls she did not have mueller, the mueller report weaved into her prepared remarks bs and in q&a with all of the public, she only got one question about the mueller report and in answering that one question she reiterated that she wants bob mueller to testify before congress. she wants to see an unredacted report. she wants to look at the underlying evidence, and then she said this to reporters, that she absolutely feels that obstruction was certainly laid bear in this report. here's what she said. >> there is no question that there is good reason to believe that there was an obstruction of justice by this president. there's no question. >> reporter: and she also said that at this point she is not prepared to call for impeachm t impeachment, that she's a prosecutor. she wants to look at more evidence. she wants to sift through everything before coming up to that kind of a judgment because in this case, s.e., the senate would essentially be the jury, that if the house brought up these proceedings, it would then go to the senate. >> she's sort of walking a tight rope covering a couple of bases there. thanks so much for your reporting. for more on the impact the mueller will have on the 2020 race, let me turn to former republican congressman from pennsylvania, charlie dent. former hillary clinton campaign manager patty doyle. shouldn't democrats get off mueller and force trump to talk about issues? he's great when he's got an enemy. what he's bad at is governing. >> right. >> and issues like immigration, health care favor democrats. >> yeah. look, i think democrats can walk and chew gum at the same time. i think the 2020 candidates should all be talking about health care, the economy, jobs, infrastructure, the whole gamut. everything voters really care about, right? but congress should actually perform their constitutional duty. by the way, that mueller report, you know, laid out quite clearly? >> yeah. >> and see whether or not this president actually committed high crimes. and in order to do that, they need to get more evidence. they need to talk to mueller. they need to talk to barr. so they should do that and let the 2020 candidates talk about issues that voters care about. >> let me push on that a little bit. congressman and senators were, yes, elected for oversight, but they were also elected to legislate and pass laws and represent the constituents. >> right. >> for a lot of these folks, i've had congressmen and women on my show weekly who say my constituents don't care about mueller. so don't they owe their constituents the focus on the issues that they are demanding? >> absolutely. they can do both. there's 5 -- there's 435 of them. they can legislate. they can get more evidence. this is their full-time job. and by the way, the house has passed a bunch of bills that the senate didn't even take up on the floor so it's not like they're not trying. we live in this polarized government. >> yeah. >> they should definitely take on their constitutional duty as well. >> charlie, what did you make of elizabeth warren's impeachment call. was that smart or risky? to patty's point, shouldn't the candidates stick to the is for s.e., the issue is she needs to change the narrative. pete buttigieg is getting all the leverage. i thought there was no risk for her, elizabeth warren, to step up and say, yeah, let's call for impeachment even though she knows there's not likely to be a conviction in the senate. so i think for her it might be good base politics, changes the media narrative and she's kind of out in front of the story. i don't think it's a good strategy for democrats at this moment generally to be calling for impeachment. i certainly think that you can make russia an issue but as has been said, you know, the mueller investigation has really not been resonating that much with voters. there's a way to make russia an issue. you talk about how the president has been acquiesce sent to putin on nato, on the e.u., precipitous pullout out of syria and that's i think the way you talk about it, why is he doing what putin wants? you can follow along with that. that's not the primary issue for people. >> patty, some are making the point that the mueller report is pretty bad for president obama that the russian interference started under his administration. they didn't do much about it. he even mocked mitt romney for calling russia our biggest geopolitical threat. is that fair? >> look, i'm definitely one of those dems that wished he had done more, made it a bigger issue before voters actually voted in november of 2016. >> yeah. >> we might have had a different result, but he did -- he did confront putin. he did, you know, provide sanctions. but it was a -- you know, a delicate political situation. he wanted to do a bipartisan statement and mitch mcconnell turned him down so it's not like he didn't try. >> let's move onto the big news that joe biden, drumroll please, finally decided to jump into the race apparently sometime this upcoming week. biden has been leading in the polls until recently. he's got huge name i.d. he's a very effective democratic voice for people that you know very well. people in the rust belt. should trump be worried about biden? >> i do think that president trump should worry about joe biden as a general election candidate. of course, the big challenge for joe biden is this primary. >> right. >> it seems that many democratic primary voters want a new face, somebody along those lines, perhaps, more so than a septogenarian. bernie has his own lane with his own support. i think biden would be the most formidable general election candidate. >> i'm not sure he can survive the primary. in some ways is it too late for biden? i know we're a long way off, right? >> yeah. >> he's missed out on some dono donors, media. >> some staff. >> some staff, right. the momentum is with pete buttigieg and a younger, fresher generation. did he miss out on some crucial campaigning time to really set his lane apart from others? >> no, i don't think so. i mean, we've got ten months before the iowa caucuses and that's like 500 in bagillion years in campaign time. i disagree with charlie. democrats want to beat donald trump and joe biden really represents that electability issue, right? the -- he resonates with white working class voters. >> right. >> and for democrats that means, you know, getting back those voters that we lost in 2016. >> yeah. >> can biden get that coalition that obama had of black people, brown people, women, young people? >> right. >> yes. >> but he can also bring back white working class voters. >> to charlie's point, isn't he going to have a tough time in primary that is so focused on far left progressive movement right now? whether it's kamala, pete buttigieg, beto o'rourke. he's going to take some incoming from them. >> he's definitely going to take some incoming. he's got a lot to answer for. 30 years -- >> right. >> -- of a record is a lot to answer for. hillary clinton ran -- you know, had that problem as well. >> record on policy and -- >> correct. >> -- scandals, correct? >> correct. in his lane, he is the moderate. he owns that lane right now. >> charlie, do you think that's right? we talk about joe biden as the moderate because he speaks scranton fluently but do you think of joe biden as a real moderate now who's going to siphon off like trump voters and independents? >> i see joe biden as certainly a center left candidate and he's also, i think, being dragged much more to the progressive element. the challenge for joe biden is how far left will he be dragged by these other candidates? i know patty seems to think, i'm not arguing with her, she seems to think -- >> you can argue. >> primary voters are worried about electability. they're worried about electability. i think at the end of the day base voters are really more concerned about ideological purity and rigidity even though they might make statements, yeah, we want electability. my experience is they want a true believer. >> i just remember when joe biden on a number of issues was, you know, pulling obama to the left, right, on gay marriage and some other things. it's funny how the roles of a situation -- the table has changed, shall we say? thanks, patty, charlie. okay. >> thank you. up next, wrath and retaliation. what will life be like in the white house post mueller? what about sarah sanders slip of the tongue? 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i'll take aleve. aleve. proven better on pain. in the red file tonight, president trump's wrath and retaliation. it didn't take long for trump to read the mueller report and lash out at his own inner circle, many of whom offered damning testimony about his efforts to thwart the investigation. trump is newly furious at the people, most of whom no longer work for him. and he is now seeking assurances from those that remain that his orders are being treated like those of a president, and not like suggestioning from an intemperate but misguided supervisor. he's been tweeting nonstop attacking the investigation and those that gave statements to the special counsel. the presumed target of some of trump's ire is former white house counsel don mcgahn who offered a considerable amount of embarrassing testimony about the president but i assume that circle will widen in coming days. it's hard to imagine what life in the white house will be like post mueller. let's ask someone who's been there. joe lockhart, the former white house press secretary under president clinton. joe, i would imagine that the white house cafeteria is an awkward place these days. people now know in detail who said what about the president and other people at the white house and are wondering who else talked. i mean, you remember the clinton white house after the starr report. what do you think the mood is like over at the white house right now? >> well, you know, i think ironically the message of the mueller report is that there's -- almost everybody there is willing to lie for him, but they're not willing to break the law because lying to the public is not breaking the law. it'shink that the people who are still there who are in the report have to feel a certain solidarity because when -- under oath when people knew when they look at the people from the campaign who are sitting like paul manafort is sitting in a jail cell right now for lying. >> right. >> that among their -- among their colleagues i think people are probably okay with it. now the president on the other hand, i imagine he feels, you know, a bit -- >> paranoid? >> the main story is nobody -- well, no, more evident, nobody listens to him when he gives a direct order. that's probably the dangerous thing. >> i'm curious. the president is angry. people who saved him. i am curious, was bill clinton angry at, you know, people around him, people who testified to ken starr's team? like take me back to inside the white house at that time. >> sure. he was absolutely not angry at the people who -- that testified. there were -- there were a series of people who went in and the word came from on high and consistently was go in, tell the truth. the president was angry at independent counsel ken starr and his deputies. he was very angry and felt like that he was being victimized, but, you know, as opposed to president trump who's out there winging it every day on twitter, the president didn't care if they were victimized, they cared about their paycheck, health care, things like that. he rose above it publicly but, sure, he was angry, but never at the people internally. there was no retribution and i think the president felt very sorry that some of the people closest to him were put through this ordeal and, you know, he did what he could to apologize to them when it was all over. >> it's quite a contrast, and we remember, of course, bill clinton was able to sort of reset the table in a public address saying, let's move on. let's focus on the issues. do you think trump should do that? >> listen, i -- bill clinton not only reset it, he apologized multiple times. he had something to apologize for sure, let's be clear. >> for sure. >> but it was genuine and clear. trump is still arguing that he's a victim, it's a witch hunt and that he's done nothing wrong. not that they would ever take my advice and not that i really want to give it. i'll give it anyway. what he should have done that day was to say, you know, i'm glad mueller cleared up that there was no collusion, one. two, the russians attacked us. they're our enemy. vladimir putin lied to my face. he is now going to pay a heavy price for this. we are going to retaliate. here's how we're going to retaliate, one, two, three. he could have even gone on to get personal and say, you know what, i do sometimes get frustrated. i do get angry. i'm glad people around me know the difference between right and wrong even though sometimes i don't. >> wow, i mean, that does not sound like him at all. i feel like -- >> no. >> -- you're writing a fiction script but i like it. on to sarah sanders. it was revealed -- >> sure. >> -- she admitted as part of her testimony under oath that something she said in may of 2017 was not true. she had said that she had heard from countless members of the fbi who had lost faith in then director james comey and in the report she said her comments were made in the heat of the moment and they weren't founded on anything. now she said her comments were a slip of the tongue. you have her job. what is your take on that? >> well, let me say a couple of things. one is the press secretary is a unique person in the white house. it's the one person who kind of works for the public and the president and you have a much higher standard of telling the truth than the rest -- everyone should tell the truth, let's start there, but the press secretary has to tell the truth. she's been failing on that for a long time. the second thing, i think there's a lot of people out there saying, come on, what's the big deal about saying countless people. when you take a step back, look at why she did it. the president fired comey because he was looking into russia and he wanted to shut that campaign back down. she lied explicitly to promote that obstruction of justice, to say the fbi doesn't support comey. she slammed comey and then said his colleagues wanted to slime him also. it was not true. in and of itself she was obstructing justice and she's lucky that she's not before a grand jury and going to court for that. >> there have been calls for her to resign. why would she? her boss doesn't care that she lied. >> well, i think she's safe in her job. she should resign because she's lost all credibility with the press. she's lost credibility with most of the country. sheet she's violated every ethic and moray and she's frankly become a national embarrassment. if none of that bothers her, i wish her the best of luck. i don't think we're going to see her in the briefing room again. the press secretary's job is tell the truth to the american public and brief the public on a regular basis. they don't brief the public at all and she doesn't tell the truth so if she wants to spill some space and sit in a chair in the white house, as a taxpayer i resent that a little bit, but at the end of the day it's up to the president. >> joe lockheart, thank you very much, friend. up next, 2020 republican presidential candidate bill wells. why he thinks he's the man to challenge the president. it turns out they want me to start next month. . why he thinks he's the man to challenge the president. wel. why he thinks he's the man to challenge the president. weld. why he thinks he's the man to challenge the president. 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>> no. i think what i want to do is going to be the center piece of my campaign and the issues will be spending. i was rated the most fiscally conservative governor in the office. the president hasn't vetoed a dime of spending. number two is jobs and wages. all of the jobs that are abouti by saying he wants the future to be coal and oil. and then some more general issues. lying is almost a default position for the president. five would be a free press. the president says we don't need a free press. that's just an autocrat talking. six, in some ways the most important to me, as a former long-time prosecutor in the ragan administration is the rule of law, and the president's made it very plain that he wants everybody to be loyal to him and not to any principles of law. and that's a terrible thing to have in the oval office to put it mildly. >> yeah. >> i don't disagree with anything you just said. you know, i'm a republican. i don't -- i don't support donald trump, but do you think there are enough mes out there to actually, you know, hand -- hand trump a real competition? >> oh, sure. >> a real tight? >> oh, sure. i realize among the really dug in republicans he's got like 98% favorable rating. >> yeah. >> this is the members of the republican state committee who are under direct orders from washington to try to prevent any primary. they even tried that in new hampshire which has the first in the nation primary but that's not going to happen but there are 20 states where unenrolled voters are permitted to vote in the republican primary. i'm going to be concentrating on those states. the independent broke 6 to 1 for me when he was running for governor in massachusetts because, i don't know, my brand of politics, fiscal conservatism and socially being more tolerant, open, welcome, that appeals to independents. i've spent a lot of time in new hampshire in the last couple of months, and, you know, they're good new englanders. they're flinty. they're honest. they're hard working. they tend to agree with me. almost everybody, including republicans in washington, agree with me in private, it's just in public they're all petrified of the president because they know he can't control his emotions and he's given to temper tantrums and vindictive. another thing you don't want in the oval office. >> you don't have to explain new england to me. i'm a fellow masshole myself. let me put it bluntly. are you trying to be president or are you running to be a spoiler? 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