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what happens when shouts of fake news get personal. we are now more than six weeks into the tipping point, a global phenomenon, something that started with harvey weinstein and led to numerous other allegations of misconduct by other men in positions of power. this week, democratic senator al franken was added to this growing graphic. journalists are continuing to investigate and corroborate me too accusations. women courageously continue to come forward and speak to journalists. is it hard to imagine a world where accusers no longer have to do this? >> only after a great deal of agonizing consideration and great number of sleepless nights that i am able to talk of these unpleasant matters to anyone but my close friends. >> he exposed himself to me and he asked me to kiss it. >> he tried to kiss me and then i pushed him away. tried to kiss me again. i push himd away again. >> he began squeezing my neck, attempting to force my head on to his crotch. >> people have been texting and calling and they're like, you know, stay strong because you're doing something that is going to make the world better for your daughter. maybe i am. if i am, okay. i'll take it. >> that was a remarkable interview this week, one of many. and in these past six weeks, many men like al franken have apologized. the republican party's nominee for senate in alabama has taken a different direction. roy moore and his allies have been crying fake news and denying the claims while actually spreading falsehoods of their own. we're in this choose your own news again. while awkwardly tiptoeing around the allegations piling up against moore. let's talk about this with a reporter for reckon. also in alabama, and mark fisher senior at the washington post and executive director of the national association for media literacy. anna clara, first to you. these are alabama's biggest paper this is morning, all saying that roy moore should be rejected by the voters and the democrat, doug jones, should be elected. does it make your job harder on the news side when the opinion side is calling for moore to lose the race? >> well, being part of the media here in alabama, which is a very conservative state, we're used to hearing the fake news leveled at us pretty much all the time. all i can do is do my job that my sources and do journalism the best that i can. >> it seems this is a situation where it's not just random twitter trolls shouting fake news. it's actually, anna clara, your neighbors. that must be hard. >> it can be sometimes. a lot of times i write about controversial things probably 80% of my inbox is negative e-mails. this time it's closer to 50/50. i've gotten a lot of response from readers who say we appreciate what you're doing, the good journalism that's happening here and we want everybody to know that not all of us are supporting moore. >> is it fair to say that roy moore is running an anti-media campaign? is that really his strategy with 23 days left? >> absolutely. here is the reason why, brian. i spent the last week interviewing members of kayla moore's ex-husband's family, to see if what's being reported about roy moore is a pattern in their eyes. the question i've gotten over and over is not do we think these allegations are true, it's why now? why now? that plays exactly into the fake news narrative. many of them see the very act of reporting as antagonistic. the washington post didn't send reporters here to flush out their coverage of the senate race, as they would in any state but rather explicitly to condemn and dig up dirt on roy moore. >> the pastors who supported him. it was only in the course of that that she was -- she stumbled upon this story about the young women who roy moore had approach early on. it was almost accidental that the reporting took that turn. it was kind of organic. the reporter who first got on to the story as being attacked as being part of some sort of northern acknowledge at a timer outside press when, in fact, she's from birmingham, alabama. there's a long history in alabama and much of the country of seeing the press as this outside agitator, invading force and that's unfortunate but as we heard earlier, it really is a very mixed bag this time. we're hearing a lot of people who are very grateful for this reporting and the whole fake news thing, i think a lot of people have -- they're on to what donald trump and roy moore, how they use that phrase to kind of -- as red meat for their base. a lot of people who shout fake news are people who crave respect from the news media, including both donald trump and roy moore, who roy moore keeps scrapbooks of the news clippings going all the way back to the beginning of his career. >> back to you, elaina, on that point, about the split reactions in alabama. 36% of registered voters do say they believe the allegations, 37% say they do not and the rest aren't sure what to believe. does that square up with what you heard when you're interviewing voters there as well? >> i thought more about that fox news poll since it came out. the methodology is usually quite good. i'm not hearing that kind of divide. i think it's also premised on a question in which republicans are going to the polls and flipping for doug jones. i don't see that happening. republicans here are fatigued. if they don't vote for roy moore it's because they don't turn out. i don't know if i see a lot of flipping going on. >> any question for you, anna claire, have you seen fatigue as well? >> i am. i think a lot of the divide will be cities versus the rural. a lot of the pastors who came out yesterday opposing roy moore were exclusively from the birmingham area whereas you see pastors from the smaller towns and areas who are still very, very supportive of him. and i think that extends to the citizens who live there, too. >> very interesting. >> michelle, let me come to you here in new york. there was a lot of talk about sean hannity and what he was going to do. he gave moore an ultimatum and then bluffed and said he'll let the voters decide. do you think there's been too much put on conservative commentators and what's happening in the race in alabama? >> we may be focused on the wrong things and certainly when we start to bring in fake news into the conversation we're focused on things besides the facts and the information we should be looking at, from the accusers from the legal standpoint. all of those things matter. >> you said to me off camera not all information is created equally. maybe we need to take the reporting more seriously. >> from a media literacy perspective, that's where i get most frustrated, that all information should be weighed differently and we have an ability to evaluate information right now. you shouldn't be able to debunk months and months of investigative reporting with a tweet. we have a real misunderstanding of what investigative reporting is and the meticuallows nature of it and the blood, sweat and tears that goes into it. we need to understand that and have to understand that the hierarchy of information. >> to your point that's a literacy issue. these investigative reporters will spend months on a project and yet in the social media world it can look the same as a random tweet or facebook post because on the web it's structured the same. >> that's where the platforms and actual structure of media and communication gets difficult to decipher. we have to do better to understand that, to be media litter rate, for sure. >> threats from the moore camp to sue the washington post and anna claire's newspaper. marc, has the lawsuit materialized yet? >> no. and we're not holding our breath. it was an incoherent threat from the lawyers from the moore campaign, amateurish threat letter. this is part of an overall campaign by the moore family and campaign to try to discredit the reporting that's being done. and, you know, i think it's having some impact with the hard core base of roy moore. for alabama voters this week, they see through this and understand that their guy may have done something wrong. it doesn't mean they're going to step away from their guy but there's a circling of the wagons that goes on in these situations. i think a lot of people do see through these kind of transparent attempts to discredit the reporting. >> you are all taking your jobs very seriously and try to be very careful. i don't know that that always comes through but the audience needs to know how carefully people like you do this work. >> yeah. i want people to know that we don't call up any old person and print what they say about roy moore. a lot of vetting goes into confirming what they're saying, and then and only then do we publish something like this. we take these accusations and allegations very seriously. >> anna claire, michelle, thank you for being here. elaina and marc, please stick around. we'll revisit that famous quote, when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. we'll talk about these women who have accused president trump of sexual misconduct and how their stories are now back in the news. work keeps me busy. so i've asked chase sapphire reserve cardmembers to find my next vacation. rome, show me something. i'm having breakfast at the pantheon. what an amazing view... of your finger. ♪ ♪ look at this view. your finger! isn't that incredible. your finger! and check this one out! oh it's so amazing! move your finger! three times points on travel and restaurants on every continent. sapphire reserve, from chase. make more of what's yours. 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welcome back to "reliable sources." listen to this quote from "people" magazine. i feel this issue has been hold all year but not forgotten. it's been simmering with on the stove with the lid on, like a pressure cooker buchlt now the heat's on and it's going to boil. and the lid is going to blast off. that's natasha stoynov, writer for "people," for the lack of attention to this, those women who accused president trump for sexual misconduct during the campaign last year. they feel there's never been justice for their stories. we're seeing a revisiting of these stories against president trump and now former president bill clinton. i'm joined again by elaina plott and marc fisher. in your book for the post "trump revealed" are these allegations at the heart of why he hasn't said more about the roy moore scandal? >> there is some vulnerability there, some real land mines for president trump if he does become vocal on the roy moore question. because there are these women out there who have these stories that are very similar to the stories we've heard about men in media and politics in recent weeks. the president doesn't want to go there. he will be dragged in that direction in various ways. a pending lawsuit is gaining steam where he may be called upon to give a deposition. obviously there's this politics of inspection we're going through now where a lot of people's pasts are being examined. it's very vulnerable territory for a president who doesn't really want to talk about that. >> elaina, do you think the press is right to be reviving these stories now? >> i have to agree with marc slightly. my sources in the white house and those close to trump tell me this is pure tribalism. donald trump was very quick to weigh in when allegations against al franken came to light. this is clearly tribalism. i don't think trump is giving any thought to the fact that he might be vulnerable in wading into this territory. >> we're in this choose your own news environment again when it comes to this topic. bill, there was a lot of attention from conservative media sources on the al franken photograph. the rest of the media very quick to cover that story, rightly so. some of those conservative outlets do shy away from these stories about trump or moore. >> it's their guy. everything about your guy i believe. everything about my guy i don't believe. that's the way it's being cast. al franken has this one woman. it's bad. what he did was bad against 12, 15 women accusing trump? and all trump said in response, remember, was he was going to sue them. he didn't do that. and he said they have been disproven. it hasn't really. going after al franken has made it incumbent on the media to say, okay, this is what your position is. we have to challenge you on these cases because they are still out there. >> on fox business slipped up and was talking about trump and said there are no allegations against the president. i'm sure that was an innocent mistake against bartiromo. for some reason when i pointed it out on twitter she blocked me. i think there's something curious about that bubble within fox that you don't want to have to talk about the allegations against trump. >> let's face it. you can be for a certain political position but you shouldn't aban your sense of reason. there's still obviously a story here. these women have to make an awfully big case that 12, 15 women dwot got together and made up -- that would be a spectacular plot that somebody hatched. these are individual people who had conversations, corroborated conversations at the time. they're all in the same category as these other cases we've all covered. we know that they're out there. it's very hard for you to slough them off. in the middle of the campaign when it was hillary's i mails and all those things, things got diverted. he has opened up these th can of worms by going after franken. >> do you think it's fair to be playing the access hollywood tape over and over again? there has been a lot of attention in recent days back to the tape from 2005. is it fair? >> the tape is not directly analagous to the roy moore allegation. it's something mouthing off, saying nasty things where the allegations against roy moore are about actual physical behavior. there are these dozen or more women out there who have stories to tell about donald trump. that's the direct analogy to the roy moore case. that's where the attention will go if this sexual misconduct story has the energy that it has. >> elaina, will reporters keep shouting questions to the president to see if he talks about this? >> i think he will not at all try to relitigate his past allegations. that's my pithy response. we're not going to see much more. >> elaina, marc, thank you for being here. marc agrees. bill, stay with me. one more trump note. still avoiding all hard-news interviews. it's been more than six months since this moment in the white house, this interview with nbc's lester holt. that's the last time the president gave any tv interview to any major network not named fox. now trump sometimes does answer questions at informal pressers when reporters shout them. for formal interviews, he confines himself to his fox friends and a couple of christian broadcasters. i want to be clear, this is really unusual behavior for any u.s. president. i can think of a few reasons why trump says no to real interview requests. he would have to answer questions about sexual harassment, the women who are accusing him and the ever-worsening russia investigations, asked about his son, donald trump jr. communicating with wikileaks and son-in-law jared kushner's apparent forgetfulness. not to mention this. how much his family stands to benefit personally if tax reform is passed. lots of questions the president is able to avoid by avoiding interviews. up next here, speaking of fox, is rupt murdoch looking to break up 21st century fox? 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not fox news but yes. it's been a dizzying week. it matters to you because we're talking about major shifts and who owns the country's most powerful media platforms. comcast and ver iizon are in tas about buying 21st century fox. and coke brothers backing a bid to call time inc. and mashable is selling itself to ziff davis for $50 million. last year mashable was supposedly valued at $250 million. lots of media deals are in the works. will government regulators give their blessing? bill carter is back with me to talk about that. let's take these in reverse. reality check for buzzfeed and vice, which according to "the wall street journal," are missing their projections for the year. >> yeah. >> what's going on with these advertising businesses? >> they can't compete with google and facebook, who are demanding all the advertising. if they can't get that revenue there's nothing they can do to compete. >> google, facebook and everybody else. this is new ad dollars going to the big companies. everybody else, hundreds of companies are stuck over there on the side. >> and 75% is going to google and facebook. 75% of the revenue. everyone else is fighting literally for scraps. people are saying either they're going to look for new businesess or give up. that's what mashable decided to do, backed out entirely. >> why do you think rupert murdoch is willing to part ways with some of his empire? >> that's interesting to me. i interviewed barry diller when he left murdoch and i said what is his goal? he said world economic domination. he wasn't kidding. so for him to entrench like this, something big is going on. he can't really amass what he needs to do to compete with these big players. >> he can't compete with google, facebook and apple. >> but i think it's interesting what's going on somewhat dovetails with our previous conversation in a way. >> about sexual harassment? >> he wanted skye tv badly. it looks like he's not going to get t i think that's one of the reason he's backing out. one reason is because of the sex scandals at fox new. >> american sex scandals have been a problem for him in britain. >> exactly and international business is a big factor in what these other companies want, comcast, verizon. they're very much interested in that. >> at&t, time warner, who owns cnn, this channel, companies are bracing for a possible ant anti-trust lawsuit from the justice department. it could be filed in the coming days. some state department attorneys general have been unwilling to get on board with the case. while the doj is getting tough, the fcc is doing the opposite, right? the other big media regulatory body is making it easier for local stations like sinclair to buy more station. >> they wiped out this rule. >> what was the rule? >> to eliminate mass ownership in the same market of media outlets. sinclair, which is the patron of the trump administration is the big beneficiary of this rule change. obviously on that side they're willing to open things up. on the other side with at&t, it's an unusual thing for a republican administration to do, to step into a merger this way. you have to wonder what is the thing that links those two things? one is that cnn is considered an enemy of the trump administration and sinclair is an ally. >> do you think cnn is an enemy of the trump administration? >> no, i don't think it is. but in trump's head, it is. that's what's important. i'm not saying this is why the department of justice is doing this. there are legitimate reasons to look at mergers like this. when a president comes out in the campaign and says i'm going to block that, i'm going to tell them i don't want cnn, it makes you question what's going on. >> attorney general jeff sessions this week was asked about whether there have been talks behind the scenes to stop the at&t deal. here is what he said. >> does any white house employee or official, including the president, contacted the justice department regarding the at&t/time warner transaction or any other transaction? >> i'm not able to comment. >> so not a confirmation, bill, not a denial. just saying he can't talk about it. >> maybe he doesn't remember. >> good to see you. thanks for being here. >> okay. >> quick newsletter plug. we're covering all these business deals every day. sign up for free for our nightly newsletter, logon to reliable sources.com. up next on the program, sean hannity calls -- let me show you -- this man a known bigot who runs the free speech group in america. how is that for an intro? he will join me to respond after this. man's inner voice: why do i have to be stuck here? listening to all of this? talking about what hurts and property taxes, eating dry pie. ♪ woah. go over there! the kids will accept you, eventually. add experience to the table. then, make a mountain out of that reddi-wip. i'm out. made with real cream. you have your permission. reddi-wip. instant greatification. are made with smarttrack®igners material to precisely move your teeth to your best smile. see how invisalign® treatment can shape your smile up to 50% faster today at invisalign.com [notification tone] ♪ i love your vest. your crocheted purses have wonderful eyes. ♪ in the modern world, an app can help you find your perfect match. and with esurance, coverage counselor® can help you find great coverage that's a perfect match too. that's auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. at t-mobile, when you holiday together, great things come in twos. like t-mobile and netflix. right now when you get an unlimited family plan, netflix is included. ho ho ho! t-mobile covers your netflix subscription... best christmas gift ever! ...so you can binge watch all year long. now you're thinking christmas! and now when you buy any of this season's hot new samsung galaxy phones, you get a second one free to gift. that's one samsung for you. and one to give. t-mobile. holiday twogether. sean hannity's show is simply called "hannity." let's call at the clinton scandal hour. night after night after night he delights in supposed clinton wrongdoing, focusing on old stories and spinning them into new scandals. fox recently called him the media's top conspiracy theorist. lately it's also been a comedic diversion from the roy moore scandal. at the end of one of his clinton bashing segments, he randomly said this. >> by the way, all of us are being is your veiled illegally, in case you're interested. just telling you. anyway -- >> anyway, that's a huge story. you're under surveillance. by who, the trump administration? you know, kooky sound bites like that would sometimes go unnoticed if not for media matters, a left-wing group that monitors right-wing media. it flagged that video clip and many, many more as part of an ongoing anti-hannity claim, sign up to stop supporting his propaganda. joining me now in new york, angelo, what's the status of this ad boycott? you announced it months ago. >> we have had statements from 30 companies that have committed not to advertise on sean hannity's program. >> were they advertising to begin with? >> all of those were to begin with and other companies didn't start because they said there's too much controversy associated with it. even before the latest flare-up, fox's ad revenue was down 14%. it very much dovetails with the massive exodus of advertisers in august. >> why do you think it's appropriate to try to take away any commentator's advertisers? >> i don't like it at all. >> then why are you doing it? >> at some point you are forced to do it. most commentators work for a company and those companies have guidelines and policies and procedures that they police themselves. they have their own commentators adhere to a standard. no other network would let their personalities go out there and do the kinds of destructive and reckless things that sean hannity does. but when you have no accountability you do nothing, endure the consequences of it or appeal to a higher power n this case it's the advertisers. i remind everybody, that was required in the case of bill o'reilly. fox news re-signed his contract and had no intention, even knowing all the things he had done, of forcing him off the air. it need to be forced. >> i would say they knew some but not all. with bill o'reilly we saw an immediate advertiser exodus that there weren't enough ads to put in the time slot. we're not seeing this for hannity. how effective is this really? >> it's a long game and is enormously effective. that's why hannity is complaining about it. it's more comparable to when glenn beck left fox news, that you reach a critical mass of advertisers that don't want to be associated with the program anymore. as a result of that, ad rates start to decline. the quality of the advertisers willing to advertise on that program goes down. it no longer becomes commercially sustainable or viable. we're at a critical point there with hannity. >> you're a liberal group. do you fear if this works rachel maddow's show and other liberal shows will be targeted? >> i think that would be unfair. tucker carlson is gross. i find his content odious. but we're not leading a campaign against him because part of this, and i would remind everybody out there, we're not smashing keurigs and calling for boycotts from these companies. most of the time we just have to show them what's happening and what they're running alongside of. that business decision is to avoid sean hannity's volatility. there are advertisers that left in august and when the keurig thing flared up, came back and said you were right. >> fox news told me in a statement for this segment, this intimidation effort is nothing more than political opportunism based on deceit. because sean hannity hosts the number one program in cable news. because millions of americans make the decision to join him every night and the audience relationship is stronger than ever. >> fox news thinks i'm the one intimidating them based off deceit. that's how they seem to function in the information landscape. >> let's see how hannity has been talking about you lately. i know it's uncomfortable to even put on the screen. he continues to call you racist, anti-gay. at some point i think he has brought up anti-semitic issues, implying you're an anti-semitic. how does it feel to see on television? >> this, in particular, is hurtful because i am gay. and my boyfriend and now husband -- for a while we weren't allowed to get married, of 14 years is jewish. right on face, it's sort of a ridiculous jab to come at me in the most personal way. we see that reflected all the time not with just sean hannity but the right-wing as a whole. they go after people's strengths and i find it a reflection of who they are. i don't see that to be a valid criticism at all. obviously i'm not homophobic. >> has he ever tried to book you on hannity? >> no. >> i would love to watch that. >> i don't think he would do it. if he would do it, like fox news has had in the past, any time they've offered to book anyone from us, they've never allowed it to be a live interview. that reflects a lot about the way and shows fox news' intention. no, he hasn't tried to do t he'll have on roy moore, bill o'reilly, even after he's fired from fox news. at this point we crossed that threshold. i wouldn't want to appear on his program. i'm telling advertisers not to associate with sean hannity because of his recklessness, to attack women at this moment in all times. i wouldn't want to elevate that show by appearing on it. in the past it may have been an appropriate way to engage. >> angelo, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you. you've surely seen this photo, but how did it happen? 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