Transcripts For CNNW Reliable Sources 20150913 : comparemela

Transcripts For CNNW Reliable Sources 20150913

Chris hurst is about to go back on the air for the first time. You have to hear how this tragedy has changed his approach to his work. But first, the stage is almost set for the second gop debate, three days from today, 15 candidates facing off at the Ronald Reagan president ial library. Once again, donald trump will literally be center stage. And trumps continuing rise in the polls means this debate could be even more contentious than the first, as all of the other gop hopefuls focus their attacks on trump and vie for their own breakout moments. How do you handle all of these fired up candidates and a wild card like donald trump . Lets ask the man who is about to do it, cnn jake tapper who is at debate site. Jake, thanks for being here. Good to see you, brian. Have you been watching the game tape . How do you prepare to moderate these debates . Look, the challenge is going to be considerable, given the fact that you have 11 candidates on the stage for the main debate and they all want to talk and they all want to make their points. Were just going to try to enforce the rules. A minute when youre called on. 30 seconds to respond if your name has been mentioned or youve been attacked. And im just going to do the best i can. I dont know if bringing out a whip and a lion tamers chair would help, but were just going to try to enforce the rules and ask the questions and see what happens. Is one of the goals for you on wednesday to spur more actual debating . What i mean by that was, one of the most interesting moments in the fox debate last month was very Chris Christie and rand paul side by side talked to each other and debated each other . You and i are of like minds on that. I agree. That was my favorite moment from the debate. I talked to our boss, jeff zucker and said that was my favorite part of the fox debate. It was actually two guys passionately debating an important issue. Right. Lets have as many of those as possible. So yes, what the team and i have been doing is trying to craft questions that, in most cases, pit candidates against the other, specific candidates on the stage, on issues where they disagree, whether its policy or politics or leadership. Lets actually have them discuss and debate. Im going to be trying look, theyre going to want to talk to the camera and get out their talking points, but i am going to attempt to get them to address each other and actually debate. Youll be joined by dana bash and hugh hewitt. Do campaigns and operatives and journalists send you ideas for questions . Are you overwhelmed by all the ideas . Its not just candidates and campaigns and journalists. Its your uncle harry and your aunt sally and the guy that you scooped ice cream with at Baskin Robbins when you were 15 years old. Everybody youve ever known is submitting questions, many of them great questions. I bet a lot of them are Interview Questions. A lot are Interview Questions that would be good on a one on one but are not necessarily debate questions. Thats what weve been crafting. Weve been pouring over the questions that have been submitted to cnn via social media, facebook, twitter, however. We keep every day refining and refining. And well see if it works on wednesday. I asked viewers on twitter questions for you. Jana asked whats your strategy or corralling the donald and limiting his bullying tactics . Is there a strategy or a plan in case he goes off the reservation so to speak . I dont have a plan for donald trump any more than i have a plan for anyone else, which is to say, if somebody if there are interruptions or if there is debate, you know, i think in some cases you want to sit back and let that happen and let candidates debate and let the organic process run its course. If it gets out of control and out of hand you want to say, excuse me. I am sorry, wed like to let everybody have a turn or lets try to follow the rules of the debate. But i dont anticipate any more problems with any one candidate than the other. You dont think trump will try to make you part of the story the way he did last month with Chris Wallace and megyn kelly . I anticipate that somebody and i dont know who, but i anticipate that at some point somebody is going to take a shot at me as the straw man, as the standin for the media at large. Right. I dont know how its going to happen. I dont know when its going to happen. I dont know who its who is going to do it. We should probably lay some bets down in vegas as to what is going to be the one who does it. I dont know that it will be donald trump any more than its going to be Carly Fiorina or ben carson. The media is a whipping boy, and its a Republican Debate. Lets be frank. Republicans often take issue with the media at large. So it could happen. My job is just to, if there if theyre raising an issue that needs explaining, to explain quickly but generally to move on to the next question. Look, isis, health care, jobs, these are topics that are much more important than me. So ill try to focus the attention where it needs to go. You probably saw this morning, actually you may not have. It was during your program, state of the union, trump tweeted out why is George Pataki allowed on the debate stage . I know you didnt make up the rules, didnt make up the criteria. What do you make of trump going after other candidates like this, challenging their legitimacy. Our argument would be the more candidates the better, because then you hear more voices. First of all, George Pataki is not on the main debate stage. He is on the undercard debate stage with the three other candidates that did not make the cutoff for the main debate. So thats he will be on the debate stage, thats true, but he wont be with donald trump. He is not at 0 in the polls. He is at i believe 1 in the polls or whatever the minimum is to make the debate stage. So thats not accurate in terms of qualifying to get on the stage. In all fairness to donald trump, George Pataki is attacking donald trump and attacking his legitimacy. George pataki said that he is not going to vote for donald trump and donald trump wont be the nominee. So, in this instance, it appears more like donald trump is firing back, counterpunching, and he has every right to do so. He also brought up the issue with rand paul, who will be on the main stage. He said rand paul shouldnt be allowed to participate either. Maybe that creates more opportunities for the actually debating or maybe the two men will actually talk to each other on the stage. Look, there are issues where donald trump and rand paul disagree. There are issues where many candidates disagree. Were not just trying to set up ways for donald trump to disagree with every candidate on the stage. We have we are crafting questions that will pit many different candidates against one another. I hope that they will be talking about leadership and policy and politics and not who deserves to be on the stage according to polling. I dont think that voters will find that all that compelling. I do think that they will be voting on issues of leadership and policy differences, and thats what we want to get out. I know youre getting back to preparation. But before you go, is this the toughest assignment of your career, especially knowing how big the audience is going to be . The toughest assignment of my career was writing the book i wrote about afghanistan because that entailed, you know, two and a half years worth of work and talking to people who have suffered through some amazing, amazing tragedies, people who have lost loved ones and people who have undergone battle and lost friends. That was emotional wrenching and taxing. This is a challenge, and im excited about it. And i would be lying if i pretended that i am not a little nervous. But its nothing compared to that. And look, i mean, at the end of the day, having written that book helps me keep assignments like this in perspective. I am sure there will be plenty of nasty tweets coming my way one way or another on wednesday night, as is the case every day of my life. Its nothing compared to actual bullets fired by the taliban. So i am okay. Jake tapper, just a little nervous this morning. Thank you for joining us here. Thanks. Jakes state of the union is coming up. Debating an 800pound gorilla. Later, before there was colbert there was cavett. The host of a latenight talk show who broke new ground on network tv will review another. Right back with that. Ears of customer records. Our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. My drivers dont have time to fill out forms. Tablets. Keep it all digital. Were looking to double our deliveries. Our fleet apps will find the fastest route. 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For a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day. Who knows, one of these kids just might be the one. To clean the oceans, to start a movement, or lead a country. It may not be obvious yet, but one of these kids is going to change the world. We just need to make sure she has what she needs. Welcome to windows 10. The future starts now for all of us. The stakes are so high for wednesdays gop debate here on cnn. Thats not just promotional babble. For some perspective about past debates i printed out the ratings spreadsheet for every primary season debate for the past decade. Back in the 2008 Campaign Cycle foxs first gop debate in may of 2007 had 2. 5 Million Viewers. Then in the 2012cycle foxs first debate of that season had 3. 2 Million Viewers. Lets face it. These events were primarily for political junkies, not for a general audience. But now that has changed. Thanks in part to donald trump. Foxs first gop debate this season shattered every record all at once with 24 Million Viewers. Thats bigger than almost every show on tv and almost as big as football. 27 Million People tuned in for the nfl Season Opener this week. Its no wonder wednesday is being likened to a super bowl. Debate gaffes and zingers have the power to make or break a campaign as some candidates know all too well. 1980, the republican primary debate when Ronald Reagan essentially catapulted himself to the nomination. I am paying for this microphone. He was funding the debate with his Campaign Money to try to include all the candidates. Of course, he went on to win the New Hampshire primary and the presidency. In 1992 jerry brown and bill clinton got into a spat on the stage. He is funneling money to his wife law firm for state business. I dont care what you say about me, but you ought to be ashamed of yourself for jumping on my wife. Youre not worthy of being on the same platform. George w. Bush and John Mccain Argued about negative ads. This is an attack piece. It says paid for by john mccain. Who can forget when Hillary Clinton was asked about her likability in 2008. What can you sa i to the voters of New Hampshire on this stage tonight who see your resume and like it but are hesitating on the likability issue where they seem to like barack obama more. Well, that hurts my feelings. Im sorry, senator. Im sorry. I dont think im that bad. Youre likeable enough, hillary. Former Texas Governor rick perry would surely like to this this moment back. Its three agencies of government that are gone when i get there. Commerce, education and the whats the third one there . Lets see i cant the third one i cant. Sorry. Oops. Then of course the fox news Republican Debate from just last month. New jersey governor Chris Christie argued with senator rand paul over the governments mass collection of personal communications. When youre sitting in a subcommittee just blowing hot air about this, you can say things like that. I dont trust president obama with our records. I know you gave him a big hug, and if you want to give him a big hug again, go right ahead. And this moment needs no introduction. You have called women you dont like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. Your twitter account only Rosie Odonnell [ laughter ] no, it wasnt. With this roster of candidates on stage again, you can expect more fireworks. Yes indeed. Joining me now and making his debut as cnn Senior Reporter for politics dylan byers in simi valley this morning. Welcome. Its a privilege and pleasure to be your colleague. This wednesday you are out there at the debate site, the candidates who havent been polling as well are on at 6 00 p. M. Eastern time and the higher ranking candidates will be on at 8 00. You wrote a lot about this this summer, the handwringing about the twotiered fox debate. This time were not hearing much complaining. Have the candidates accepted their fates at this point . You have to think about it. How many candidates do we have left on the undercard stage now and how relevant are they . We have 11 candidates in the main event. Rick perry who has recently dropped out of the race. I wouldnt be surprised if, by the time we get to the next Republican Debate we dont even have enough candidates to have an undercard debate. Thats interesting. Rick perry dropping out on friday. You wonder if the debate was part of the reason why, knowing the debate was coming. This week donald trump suggested that the profits from the cnn debate be donated to charity. The story seems dead now. Cnn has not imphencommented on. How many viewers do you expect to have tune in . We said 24 Million Viewers for the fox news debate. That was sort of opening night, right . I watched the patssteelers game on thursday. I dont know if ill watch thursday night football next week, so i dont know if its going to be quite as high. I am putting it at about 18 to 20 million. Donald trump obviously generates a lot of interest. Were out of summer and into the fall. I think more people are watching because of that. 18 to 20 million but i wouldnt be surprised if it went higher. I have been thinking 16 and 17 million. Then again, there might be people who missed the fox debate who want to see what the fuss is about and maybe that will drive viewers who didnt watch a month ago. Sort of those two dynamics in play. I think thats true. Also, if you look at the highlight reel you just played, these debates are some of the most exciting moments of the political season, and that debate a month ago, there were fireworks for the full 90 minutes. I think a lot of people who missed that debate are looking forward to tuning in to this one. We cannot underestimate the fact that these candidates get face time in front of 25 Million Viewers as opposed to in prior debate cycles, two or three million. A huge advantage from past seasons, is it not . Its an enormous advantage. This time in any other political cycle were looking at two to three Million Viewers. The most viewers for any cable news primary debate was less than seven million. You had 24 million last time. Well put up similar numbers this time around. The whole sort of conventional wisdom that the early days dont matter and that were not this election doesnt really start until we all roll into iowa, that doesnt apply this time. Donald trump has made this a Major National media event that the country is paying attention to and that the country cant ignore because you cant go to an airport or to a bar without seeing donald trump in the republican primary story rolling out as it is. I feel like at dinner parties people used to talk about the weather when they got there and now they talk about trump. Do you think this debate is make or break for any candidate in particular . Sure. I think its its all about promotion and relegation. If you are Carly Fiorina and you are on the debate stage now, you have to prove why you are there. If youre ben carson and find yourself standing at center stage, you have to demonstrate to the American People why you deserve to be there. By the same token, if you are someone like a walker or paul who has been falling in the polls or any of the candidates at the wings of the stage, you also have to demonstrate why you shouldnt be kicked off that stage. So doing that in front of 20, 24 Million People as opposed to two Million People is a huge opportunity, and its free press and its a big deal for these candidates. Sure is like fight night. Dylan, great to have you here. Thanks so much. Thank you. 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