The u. N. s words multiple deaths and injuries. The palestinians say at least ten people died. Weve had no comment yet from the Israel Defense forces. We anticipate comment soon. We know 80 hamas rockets so far today have been launched from gaza into israel. Were watching to see what kind of damage, if any, those rockets those rockets created. We know that israels iron dome Defense System intercepted several of the rockets. Lets go to gaza. Cnns john vause is standing by. The israeli officials are saying theyre almost complete with the destruction of the hamas tunnels going from gaza into israel. What are you hearing over there . Reporter yeah, well, its not what were hearing but its what were seeing. If we look off to the distance, we can see the dust on the horizon where it looks as if the israeli tanks and armor have been redeployed closer to the border. You can see the dust on the horizon. Clearly the israelis are pulling back, moving away from the Populated Areas moving back towards israel. That is not to say that they are finishing with this operation. In fact, quite the opposite. A short time ago leaflets were dropped from planes flying over gaza for the local population here reading in arabic, this battle continues. Tell your leaders underground the battle will continue. Now the problem that sorry. Also what were hearing is there is some fairly tense israeli activity down there as well. You mentioned the unra school. 10 people were killed. We were down there a couple of days ago. A lot of people had taken shelter in those u. N. Schools because they didnt want to stay in their homes. They thought it was too dangerous. They told me a day or two ago there was a continual bombardment of the area. That has not left up. In rafa alone the death toll for today standing at 71. Now this tunnel operation as you say wrapping up but the israelis warning that the military offensive does continue. Its just going into another state. And, wolf, you mentioned that number of rockets being fired by hamas. 80 sings midnight. What we have seen here in the last couple of hours or so, the number of rockets which are leaving gaza has really picked up. Reporter about 80 as i said. So far today theyre dealing with those rockets. Theyre also dealing with what they described as extensive mortar fire along the border as israeli troops, tanks, armored personnel carriers begin their withdrawal from gaza. That could take a day or two im told. The border fort worthing is escalating at this time. They still have by all accounts, john, at least 2 or 3,000 rockets. Thats what Israeli Intelligence believes. Is that what youre hearing . Reporter yeah, absolutely. And what we thought hamas was doing over the last couple of days, the number of rockets being fired that was inn an explosion. I think that was incoming artillery. It was very loud. It has been fairly close to us. That was far off in the distance. At any rate, as we were saying with the hamas rocket situation, we thought they were actually trying to reserve their ammunition. They staggered the rocket fire over the last couple of days. It certainly has been picking up. You mentioned the israelis. Theyve fired maybe 3,000 as well. They had 10,000 at the beginning, the idea being maybe theyve destroyed 4,000 in those airstrikes and other operations, wolf. Reporter john vause, be careful over there. Reporting from gaza. Other breaking developments in the middle east, israel will not send a delegation to ceasefire talks in egypt. An official palestinian delegation has arrived in cairo. Heres how a spokesperson for Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu describes the path ahe ahead. Our faith in hamass ability to hold their fire is at an alltime low. Reporter theres no ceasefire . At the moment israel is pursuing our operation in a way that we think is best. We are redeploying forces to finish. Were finishing up the operation on the tunnels. We continue to hit their rockets. Ultimately israel will redeploy after weve succeeded the maximum goals. Reporter when you say redeploy, several,000 troops have moved back into israel. Is that what redeployment means . In essence, yes. Reporter stay with cnn for all the latest news from israel and gaza. 1 00 p. M. Eastern ill speak live with a special u. N. Envoy for the middle east, robert siri and daniel shapiro. Thats live. A special edition of Fareed Zakaria gps. Reliable sources is about to begin. I was looking at the washington post. Its been a month since israel has launched their offensive. I also have a wide ranging interview with glen becht to show you. Lets begin right where wolf left off. There are two wars going on in the middle east, one fought with weapons and another fought with words. So to look at how this might yeah war is playing out, i invited two of the smartest people i know on this issue who happen to be polar opposites. We have a palestinian who speaks hebrew and has a jewish husband and Elliott Abrams was a Deputy National security advisor under george w. Bush. Hes at the council on foreign relations. They joined me in studio to discuss. Rola, elliott, thank you both for joining me. Pleasure. You look at this and see two different things. So im hoping we can find some middle ground. When you see coverage of whats happening in gaza and israel, what bias do you see . Definitely we shia way on challenging the israeli narrative of whats going on in the ground and whats the end game. I dont see that. I see basically the israeli narrative that this is a war they had to go into being challenged by visuals. Its one thing to hear the speeches and agree with them. What youre seeing, a lot of damage, a lot of death, injuries in gaza makes it very hard. I think for viewers to weigh this because youve got sort of one part of your brain is listening and another is looking. On cnn international, christiana amanpour, she had a visitor. A lot of the International Condemnation has backfired here, made people feel like nobody understands them. Many people here feel like nobody understands them. Is it possible for that to be true but therefore also be a pro israel bias in the American Press as you say there is . Look, i believe that israelis think that most of the if you dont agree totally with them, you dont understand them. I think as friends, and as allies, we need to challenge destructive policies. I think the destructive policy of the last 45 years in the west Bank Department lead anywhere. The last eight years in gaza didnt lead anywhere. Maybe elliott can explain it. What do we want to do with the millions of palestinians that are sitting there. You dont want to give them citizenship and you dont want to give them sovereign state . The end game well see the cyclical violence. You wrote called the long war with hamas. Well, the problem is against hamas. Its easy to say, whats the answer . The problem is that hamas is not for a twostate solution. Neither is the israeli government. You cant make believe that israel can deal with the Palestinian Authority as if theres no hamas. There is a huge terrorist group here pledged to the destruction of israel. You want to establish that which is different. When you talk about demill tar rising gaza, you need to come up with a reasonable plan to do that or else its a silly slogan. What can we agree on . What are the facts . Do we agree, i hope you and i can agree that millions of palestinians deserve either sovereign state or citizenship . Do we agree on this . Oh, i would agree on that, but only if and when israelis can have safety and security. I agree. Here we go. We agree on this. Can we please agree and i hope you will write something about it, that if israel really totally demilitarized like they did in the west bank, can they seal an agreement with moderate palestinians . Im not sure what youre asking. Is it possible for there to be agreement between the palestinian agreement and israel . Why didnt it happen . Its been in negotiation for the last six years. I will tell you why. Please. Neither yasir ar ra faf. That was six years ago. Neither yasir ar ra faf nor Muhammad Abbas would sign an agreement. You know that barack offered and they would not sign an agreement. Thats the problem. You have a bigger problem kerry asked them to sign now. They were willing. He was not willing. Come on. He was. He was not willing. He was willing. Different problem now. When you see that your settlements where 60 60 settlements 20 years ago today are 200 with 1 million i must say i dont think this has anything to do with the fact that mrs. A murderous terrorist group in gaza trying to kill as many israelis that came in the last eight years. You cant cancel the last 55 years. Hamas did come come in the last eight years. Do you agree the Palestinian Authority theyre not going to disarm hamas. You know the main thing that separates us. That youre a man and i am a woman . There is a problem here. If we were smarter and listened to each other, we would solve it. There are some problems that are so difficult and the problem of frankly islamic terrorism in the middle east, whether its in syria, isis or its hamas in gaza. We dont have a solution. Were not going to have one tomorrow. I want to go back to the first point that you made which is visuals matter. There have been complaints from gaza that we dont see hamas. Its hard to show obviously. There are other things that are not being shown. Israel has a Field Hospital that theyre serving gazans. During this war more than 1300 truckloads of food and medicine into gaza. You can show that, talk to the truck drivers. Is that a fair critique . Were not seeing that humanitarian effort . We work in the media. When you have a story of bombardment of schools, u. N. Schools where kids are dying and died and a bombardment of a market, between that story and a truck, what do you show . I think we show both. The relevance is the human suffering. When you look at the casual at this figures you can see it now, a vastly disproportionate number of people that the israel slis killed are men between the ages of 17 and 30. Why would that be . Because theyre targeting soldiers of hamas. I dont think schools are soldiers. I dont think markets are soldiers. I know one thing they make mistakes. We made them in iraq. We made them in afghanistan. These are two different things. Theyre not two different things. American wars and this is an israeli war. You cant connect them together. This is not even right for the israelis or the americans. Every army makes mistakes. Do you think the United States didnt accidentally kill civilians in afghanistan. Theyre murdering children on snurps. I think there is proportionate force thats been used to hit hamas but in the end many civilians will be casualties. 10 of the population of gaza are men between 17 and 30. They are 44 of the casualties. I hope when you go back and you write about it or you meet the israeli figures alls, tell them one thing f. This position will not change us moderates in the middle east will disappear and hamas and extremists and even worse than hamas will come across. Worse than hamas is a hard concept to deal with right now when they are attempting with their rockets to kill only civilians. They arent even rocketing israeli bases. Theyre rocketing cities. Theyre trying to kill civili s civilians. Can we agree that its sad that you all were on cnn together two years ago on the Fareed Zakaria program talking about the same topic. This is really sad. The fact that were not finding solutions, questioning or challenging the officials to find solutions, were talking about the urgency, human catastrophe, shelling but not solutions. There is some small agreement about the sadness of it at least. Thank you both for joining me. Thank you for having us. We will have more on the media war later this hour. First, an interview im very excited to show you with the one and only glen beck. It includes his startling admissions about his role he says in polarizing the country and its coming up right after this. Many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. But they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. Dentures are very different to real teeth. Theyre about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. Polident is designed to clean dentures daily. 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But does the game love you . Who cares . Look where you get to stay booking. Com booking. Yeah . Of americas numberone puppy food brand. With dha and essential nutrients also found in mothers milk. Purina puppy chow. Welcome back to reliable sources. When i say the name glen beck, i know you have some reaction. He is a captivating and controversial figure in the media. Might i add, richest. When i hear his name the first thing that comes to my mind are profits. Thats because three years ago when he left fox news he started to set up his own web side and office called the blaze. Beck and his company earn 90 Million Dollars a year. Let that sink in for a second. Heres the most startling thing about beck. He says he has changed. What he has to say about his role in tearing the country apart, those are his words, are going to surprise you. It definitely surprised me when i spent time with him at his headquarters near dallas, texas. Take a look. Im curious what you said about your time at fox news. It was an awful lot of fun and i made a lot of mistakes. I wish i could go back. I think i played a role unfortunately in helping tear the country apart and its not who we are. You must have been talking about something specific. What did you mean . No, i think we all i mean, i have i have spent the last few years when i when i when i first left i stood when you left fox . Yeah. And i stood in my Apartment Building in new york city, and it was the night i met bono at spider man. We were sitting back there. They were trying to fix spider man. It was still in reviews. My wife, much to my wifes chagrin, i suggested an alternate ending for it, and it was just this really i was the cool kid. For one minute i was the cool kid. It was the day before i was going to go in and say we were leaving. And i walked in and we had this beautiful apartment and i stood in this floor to ceiling glass apartment way up above new york, and i said, how can this be right that were leaving . It doesnt make any sense. Because i felt that we were standing in the wrong place. And my wife, im lucky enough to be married to a good enough woman, she said, im going to bed. Because we had already prayed on it, we had already discussed it. Decision made. And i stood there looking at it and i thought to myself, if you dont leave now, youll lose your soul because i was just starting to want it. And so leaving and thinking, okay, so what was that experience all about . What have you done with your life . Because im a man who at 40 hadnt done anything. And now im at 50 and i look at the things that ive done that have been good and the things that ive done that unintentionally i i feel ive added we all have, all of us have added to the situation that were in right now. Not a Single Member of our society, maybe the dalai lama, but everybody else has played a role in this. So what have i done . Ive gone back every day and thought id do it all if i knew then, you know, and had the same set of facts, i would do exactly the same thing. But now as i get here and i see we are much more fragile that i thought. I really i did not is it something some sort of quote you wish you hadnt said. No. Is there a time you looked out in the crowd and you thought, thats not where i wanted us to be . I mean, i dont know what youre driving at, but i i look now and say, this is not where we want to be. You talk about you say you have had a role in helping tear the country apart. Im wondering, was there a theme on fox that you wish you hadnt continued on . No. I will tell you that there is nobody, and you go back and look, just go search the transcripts. You find another show that talked about gandhi, talked about Martin Luther king, talked about love, talked about god, talked about peace. Like i said, it was innovative. Yeah. I talked about those things all the time. And yesterday some people still remember you saying on fox and friends that president obama is a racist. It becomes a cliche, thats all youre known for among some people who have never watched your show. And that is unfortunate and it is unfortunate that its unfortunate that we all when you live your life five hours a day on Live Television or radio, youre going to say stupid things and youre going to say things because you do it in your cubical, you do it on the air, im sure. Sure. People do it on g chat, facebook, they dont do it from a national podium. Thats right. Was the racist comment one of the stupid ones . Of course it was. But we all we all live and learn. And thats what i mentioned when you say figuring things out, that thats been your career. You can hear it on your programs, you talk through things. You change your mind. You evolve your views, and often times media figures are held up as never changing. I dont understand that. I dont understand. If you havent if you havent if you dont have a deeper understanding of something, youre dead. Youre dead. If you havent if you havent grown in understanding. Im not saying im still a conservative. I still believe the same things that i did. Do i do i believe in exactly the same way i did with the same no. But thats what means it means to be alive. Yes. My favorite in my program, im still pretty new, are so