Got his back and hes got mine. Thats what i reflect. Thats what i what motivates me. President obama will award the medal of honor to Clint Romesha on monday at the white house. He will also be honored at the pentagon on tuesday, after which he will come back here to minot, north dakota, and continue with his new job. Meanwhile, the war in afghanistan continues. More than 60,000 American Service members are right now in that country fighting that war. Ive come to gun country in one of the most Popular Stores in the state. I fired the most powerful we in americas arsenal and theyre all legal. Youre in america now and we have a special amendment right. This a is special edition. How has business been . Right noi its impossible to get guns and ammunition. This pattern has been seen all over america. Why are people reacting by buying more guns and ammunition. I know my customers feel they will be banned. They need to get it now while they still can. Whats the most popular . Anything with over a ten round automatic. Thats the rumor they will try to ban. Do you think those are kind of things they should use in selfdefense . For selfdefense for your home or your property . Home. For your home i like shotguns because you dont have to worry about missing. Here in texas sometimes you live on 10, 20 acres. A shotgun wouldnt be very effective. Do you believe any gun should be bann edbanned . I do not. Why . Its not case of guns kill people. Do you believe that the more guns there are in america, the safer the country is . In the hands of the right people, yes. If youre going to do anything, i agree that people that have mental retardation or violent felons, they shouldnt have guns. They shouldnt have any rights. Lawabiding citizens you should be able to do whatever you want as far as gun purchasing. Lets fire some of these weapons. What are we going to start with . The jp enterprise. Every time you pull the trigger one bullet comes out. This is a pure unmodified semi automatic . Yes. Its a standard if you like ar15 . Right. This is the weapon thats been used in the last five Mass Shootings in america including aurora and sandy hook. Okay. The magazine is how big . This is 30 round capacity. Its standard. Its perfectly legal. Weapon is ready to be charged. Weapon is on safe. Okay. Shoulder the weapon. Keep your finger out of the trigger until youre ready to shoot. Take it off of safety. Go ahead an shoot. Once i got the hang of it and pressing the trigger faster and faster it was firing fast. This has a muzzle break. Somebody that knows what theyre doing how many rounds could they fire in a minute . Maybe 60 rounds or so. 60 rounds a minute. 400 rounds a minute. The true rate if you have unlimited magazine then 400 rounds a minute. Somebody like you . In one minute . 200 or so. 200. If i had to guess. You can buy this at walmart. You think its a good idea. For lawabiding citizens its an excellent idea. We shoot pigs out of helicopters in texas. We do things nobody does. If you start barning one particular anything, where is it going to stop . If you give anybody a inch theyll take a mile. You have a modified version which i wouldnt mind seeing next. Were a firearm manufacturer. These two weapons they look identical to me. Right. The difference is the selector switch instead of going from safe to semi automatic, we have autothat allows it to go full automatic. Thats the only difference in. Thats the only difference. How difficult is to it take an ar15 to make it an automatic . You have to have the right sever. Theres parts and components. You cant just go to walmart or make it that way. The parts can be bought legally in. Yes. You could convert it yourself if you know what youre doing. Technically youre not supposed to have the parts and the gun together. You can buy them separately . You can. Be youre a criminal of course, if youre a criminal you can do whatever you want. A 30 bullet magazine. Safety is on. You need to flip this twice. Make sure that you lean forward into it because it does rise. Make sure you leap into it. To me it feels to powerful. You missed many times. The speed and the power. When you shoot one of these its called spray and pray. You pray it hits the target. If youre in a confined area like a Movie Theater you dont care . You saw the rise. It doesnt matter if you miss a few, youll hit somebody. The guy at aurora has an ar15. I believe he had a slider device. What does that do . Its less accurate than this. Its really hard to shoot. I would love to put one in your hands. How many bullets does it allow you to fire . Technicallily shoots about 650 rounds a minute. You can buy the slider legally. You sell them here . Right. Of all the arguments to have one of these, home defense is probably the least plausible from your point of view . For me in the home, what people are talking about is the way that this world is going that the military and United Nations are going to come in and try to take our guns. You really believe that . I dont know. Anything is possible. Can you imagine u. S. Marines charging onto your property an steal your guns. I would hope not. Youre a sensible guy. I hear this all the time in texas. I gave an interview with a friend of yours with 40 and 50 texans. Thats the one thing they agreed that tyranny was about to come their way. Look at all the other countries. It started where we are now and its ended up with no guns. You think that the American Military would attack its own people . If theyre forced to. I hope that would not happen. Do you think thats what many texans feel about why they would need a weapon like this . They want it because they are lawabiding citizens and they know its legal to purchase it now and it wont be legal now. They rather buy it now and be legal than do something illegal because these are law abiding citizens were talking about. Show me the type of weapon effective for home defense . Inside your home this is a typical shotgun. The reason i like about this is it does have a strap here. If someone tries to take it from you, you have two points for struggle. Its a pump action so its not going to jam. Thats a universal sound for get the heck out of my house. Its a 12gauge. Easy to use . It is. You have to hold it down at the waist when you fire it because if you do this youll bust your teeth out. This machine down here which looks like it kind of military machine gun that you see in all the movies. That was made before 1986 and the last assault weapons ban that is a legal weapon in this country. I could buy that. Six months of background checks. Its atf paper work that you have to fill out. You have to pay 200 to the atf to fire this or to purchase it. To fire it how much it cost me in. These run anywhere from 25 to 45,000. Depends on the make an model. Whats the rate of fire . About 900 rounds a minute. Chris, if i could have you over on this side. Sit on this one and you sit on that one. Okay. Put your knees over this. Take it off safe. Take it off safe. Its going to keep going as long as you keep it down. Why would any civilian need one of these . I purchased one of these about 12,000 and sold it for 45,000. Incredible. I kr incredible. Its obviously too expensive to shoot. Its the investment. I could buy that from you . You could. Still ahead, i talked to a close friend of americas top sniper who was shot dead on a texas gun range similar to this. After the break i talked to the attorney general about his views on gun control. Anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating . Yes one Phillips Colon Health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. Live the regular life. Phillips. 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The president was in minnesota and came out for a variety of different measures he wants to bring in through the senate and the house to curb gun violence in america. What was your reaction . It seems to be more show than reality. It seems like on the same day the majority leader same out and said theyre not going to pass any assault weapons ban. He said he would take a look at it. I thought he made an announcement that he didnt think that you would would pass a ban. Lets go through some of these measures. I want to see where theres common ground. Do you support 100 universal background checks . The current background checks are not working. Were seeing so many violations of it that the federal officials are not enforcing. In principle. Do you support that . The principle of ensuring that criminals and those who have mental issues do not get their hands on gun are important. The principle of who is buying guns in america. A lot of these people dont show the obvious mental danger until its too late. What about the principle if you buy a gun at a gun show theres a record of it and you have to have a background check. What im trying to tell you is if you go to a gun show, you will have a background check run. The important thing is thats not true. You will in some cases but the private trades, theres no record. Which is a good point. I want hunting last month with a good friend in south texas. I used a rifle that i would like to purchase from him. Had he had to go through a bkd check, it would hinder the purchase. Should i have to run a background check on my friend ive known for more than a decade because i want to sell him a pistol. You can guarantee that every Single Person in texas will be in the future of sound Mental Health and isnt going to develop criminal tendencies, suicidal tendencies or murderous tendencies . Can you guarantee that . We need to enforce the laws and crack down on those with mental challenges and prevent criminals from getting ahold of the guns in first place. Would you support a ban on magazine rounds with more than ten rounds . Absolutely not. Why . Look at the texas border. We have thousands of ranchers who live up and down the border. How much drug cartel have attacked people in texas . We have Drug Cartel Members who have shot at Law Enforcement. Civilians . If theres so brazen that they will shoot Law Enforcement officers, the innocent ranchers have to be fearful. Have any rancher been confronted . Absolutely. When . I cant tell you when . You said confronted. Theyre confronted ranchers on an ongoing basis. They deserve to have the ability to meet force with force, which is what the Second Amendment guarantees. These ranchers need to be able to protect themselves. Let me add one more thing. Youre in houston right now. There are members of the vicious gang ms13 right here in houston as well as other deadly gangs. People here in houston have a right to defend themselves from the deadly gang. Do you agree with the fact you cant legally by in most places in america machine guns in warfare style . Sure. Thats been banned. Do you support that . Thats a ban thats in place and we have been fine with that. Why doesnt that breech your rights . The military can have them. I thought you should have whatever everybody else have. The reason why it was passed in the first place is to allow americans to defend themselves from either Government Forces or other forces that endanger their lives. If the government attacked you, it would be the military. It would be with machine guns. You support that ban but youre not prepared for a ban on military style. A lot of people use this phrase military style when in reality its nothing more than a semi automatic weapon used for deer hunting. I can buy a slide device over there which would allow me to fire up to 300 rounds a minute. What is your definition of an assault rife given i can legally buy that here and kill 300 people in one minute . First, i think that any texan has a right to be able to purchase one of those weapons. When it comes to talk about limiting our right, we need to have the right to defend ourselves when ever anyone tries to attack us. Thank you very much. Thank you. Coming up, ill talk to two people who believe concealed weapons and the nra save lives plus ted nugent. Take tylenol or take aleve, the 1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. Just two aleve can keep pain away all day. Back to the news. Just two aleve can keep pain away all day. How do you keep an older car running like new . You ask a ford customer. When they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. If your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. 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Along with the appalling tragedy not least because your friend was trying to help another armed serviceman who had come out and suffering from this very frequent problem now that so many exsoldiers have. It ended tragically. What did you feel in terms about this . I guess im still in total disbelief that chris is gone. I think that everyone that knew him feels the same way. I dont know the act details of what happened and im sure that more information will come out. Even before he was famous devoted considerable amount of time to helping veterans whether they were disabled, whether they were suffering from Traumatic Stress or just regular guys. He would take people out to go hunting and fishing. He could also just talk with people back from the war. Thats a big part of what his life was about. Certainly awful. Im at a texas gun range. It feels safe here. Everyone knows how to use weapons and takes it seriously. We dont flknow the exact details. Its a little different than where you are. Its a very large place. Quite honestly they could have been doing any number of things. Chris would not have subjected another person to a dangerous situation. Im sure that he considered where he was to be relatively safe. Its an appalling tragedy. The aelleged killer is now in custody. I guess well find out more when he comes to trial. My great sympathies to you on losing your friend and america has lost a true hero. Absolutely. Thank you. Back to our big gun debate. Joining me is texas state senator dan patrick. Welcome to you both. I want eed to start by giving y my reaction. A lot of people say you dont know what youre talking. The ar15 is just another form of gun. I was pretty shocked when i got into this range and began to fire the ar15. You can see the pictures here again. I started off slowly and it began to rapid fire. To hear someone that knows what theyre doing could find between 60, 70, 80 bullets a minute. How anyone could not classify this as an assault weapon is beyond me. Its a personal defense weapon. Against what . Against a lot of things. We live in an area and weve seen the thin vail of civility in a hurricane, the aftermath. We see lootest go into a neighborhood whether its new orleans or long island. We know that in our country we dont think terrible things like a dirty bomb could be set off. Nobody thought 9 11 would have. People have this weapon to defend themselves s here is the thing. If you strip out the ar15 and take all the guns out, youre still