Breaking news tonight, new detail about a crowded Shopping Mall outside of portland, oregon. Three people are dead including the gunman after he opened fire at the clack kamans town center a short while ago. No word on whether he was shot or took his own life. The witnesses are describing a pretty chaotic scene of people who were rushing to the doors to escape the gunfire, that it sounded like firecrackers. About a hundred officers and emergency vehicles are now on the scene. And police say they do believe that this gunman angted alone, but they are still searching throughout the mall saying that customers and employees may still be in there and hiding not knowing if this incident is over yet. Hundreds of people have already been evacuated and the sheriff held a News Conference a short time ago updating the situation. I can confirm that we believe at this point there was one and only one shooter involved and that shooter is deceased. In addition to that, we have at least one patient who was taken, taken from the mall with a traumatic injury and at least two that were deceased. In addition to the shooter. And we also have other breaking news tonight overseas. North korea has carried out the launch of a long range rocket. That come from the south korean government. And the japanese government also told cnn that the rocket passed over the island of okinawa, though no action was taken by them to shoot it down. The news comes as a surprise because north korea announced on monday that it was going to extend the launch window into late december. You can stay with cnn throughout the night for the latest on these two breaking stories. Pierce morgan is in washington, d. C. , with a special interview. Welcome to the Senate Committee on foreign relations. This is where some of the most sense sensitive global issues are discussed. Tonight im sitting down with three legendary citizens, john mccain senior senator from arizona, president ial candidate and Ranking Member on the Armed Services committee, Joe Lieberman, senior senator from connecticut and was on the ticket with al gore, and lindsey graham, the senior senator from South Carolina, a member of the Armed Services appropriations and budget committees. Welcome the you three. The three amigos. As dubbed by general petraeus. You forgot to mention he ran for president also and lost and hell run and lose some day. This is john, much too often as we travel has described us as the losers caucus. Once we were in pakistan and the ambassador this was 2002, the ambassador was good enough to give a dinner in our honor. Mccain and i led the delegation of eight other senators. He got up to make his toast. Im here, mccain, he lost for president , i lost for Vice President , john says, you have here before you, the American Government in exile. By the time this interview is over, you will know why they both lost. What is known about the three of you is youre very close friends. I sort of represent an air or an essence of bipartisanship and genuine crossparty friendship, which many feel doesnt really exist in modernday washington. How have you managed to do this . And why cant more of your colleagues do this . Respect, affection, traveling together. When you travel together and by the way, other senators have described our travel as death marches. We go to exotic places like afghanistan and baghdad and libya and those really fun places. But i think traveling together is probably been for years now weve traveled to the most interesting places, maybe not the most fun places. And so we become friends that way. Here in the senate. Therefore, we have worked together on a lot of National Security issues. Lindsay is a reserve colonel in the air force. He serves his active duty for years in iraq, now afghanistan. Joe being a key member of the homeland the chairperson of the Homeland Security committee and so we have a lot of common interests, common interests, common working together has built up a unique friendship over the years. This started this wasnt planned. When i came to the senate, i admired john mccain from afar. Once i got to know him, i admired him less, but thats no obviously, weve become very close. And i have the greatest admiration for him. But i remember going to see him and saying id like to Work Together with you i hope we can Work Together on something. And it turned out that the first thing we really worked together on was the war in the balkans because we were increasingly agitated by what turned out to be genocide really and worked with bob dole and joe biden to push the Clinton Administration to finally get into it. But there began a working relationship of friendship and really based on i think values that we all shared. This youngster came along in 2002, the kid, and basically we believe that america has a responsibility to be involved in the world in protection of our values and our strategic interests, all of which helps us be safer and freer here at home and its just grown. Senator graham, what is the secret to proper bipartisanship, do you think . Well, in fairness to our colleagues, pierce, theres a lot of real close friendships around this place. Theres a lot of republicans and democrat who get along very well and Work Together. The reason youre talking about the three of us, i think, is because of 9 11. There had never been an attack on america, we would have been Three Friends who travel and socialize, but what brought us together and put us on the map, after we were attacked on 9 11, everything in our country changed and throughout the world. As a result of 9 11 and all the National Security issues that followed, our friendship became a cause. It really did solidify over the iraq war. Bipartisanship as hyped is being willing to lose your job. I really admire john because he suffered for our country. And i hang around these guys because i feel young and smart, but the truth of the matter is john has been a war hero in the true sense of the word, but during the iraq war, we were one vote away from setting a deadline to withdraw, and joe was the only democrat who would cross over. So when you talk about bipartisanship, i think you really are trying to talk about courage. Joe has the courage of his convictions. It drove him out of his own party. And i dont think theres much of that going on any time in american history, particularly now, so so without 9 11, without the iraq war, without afghanistan, without the challenges we face, wed just be Three Friends and weve become a force to lead because other people will. He supported me in 2008 and yet when the democrats in majority, they still made him the chairman of one of the most important committees in the entire senate, the Homeland Security committee. Ive never seen quite that level of respect. By the way, one of the things that i do for lindsey is i translate a lot of his remarks in english when we are traveling. The South Carolina primary. The tragedy of this is that you are this amazing band, the three amigos, but the band is breaking up. Youre retiring. This is the only thing i feel guilty about with regard to my leaving the senate. But the time came. Ive been here 24 years. Wanted to move on to something else. Well always be friend. Well be amigos forever. And maybe theyll find a way to have me carry their baggage. Its been described to me like zz top suddenly losing a member and in comes katy perry because youve got the senator co ahern coming in. I think of it as the temptations without rhythm. One thing about our relationship, as you know, Joe Lieberman is an orthodox jew, and weve had to put up with all the shabbat stuff, all the lousy food, all the elevators, all the days off. And i want to tell you that we have gotten all the down side but none of the up side. So im seriously thinking about taking up his religion since ive had to eat all that salmon all these years. They have been very tolerant of me. But ive assured them that it could be that, you know, when they each complete their 120 years on earth and they get to heaven and at the pearly gates they find a rabbi, theyre going to be in great shape. We were on an airplane flying to europe, which we do every year, and we were up in a compartment just the two of us, and i woke up and it was just starting to get a little light. And i saw this figure with a shawl on and doing this mumbo jumbo, i thought maybe i had died. So then i said, when i tell the story, i say this is kind of man john mccain is. He things that heaven is populated by praying jews. What a guy. I had never known a person in my life that lives his religion to the degree that Joe Lieberman does. Hes such a great contrast to people like me and lindsey because ive never seen him lose his temper. Ive never seen him insult anyone, ive never seen him treat anyone but with the greatest courtesy. I cannot say that about lindsey or myself. Your temper is legendary. Very calm. Very calm, level headed. Absolutely. Have you ever known him to not lose his temper . I just realized they do really 1973. They do a Great Service for me because i dont have to lose my temper, because they do it for me, they express it for me. You guys have been too nice to me, i appreciate it. We had a show last night, it was very american in sense of the topics we discussed. Bob costas. Two things that were very pertinent to him, guns and football. And particularly the relationship twoon the two. Now 70 of nfl players now carry guns. And an ongoing debate. I have to say not a very loud one. I seem to be one of the few people who really wants to discuss this, about the proliferation of guns in america. You have been through decades of this kind of debate. Where do you sit on this . Let me start with you, senator mccain. Guns in america, should anything be done or are you comfortable with where things are . Actually, im comfortable. I think that, for example, the killing that has aroused mr. Costas anger was an act of hatred and brutality, and that person wanted to kill somebody, they didnt need a gun to do it. So look, i just believe that its one of our rights and joe . I start with the belief that the Second Amendment actually does protect the right of individual americans to own guns, but in my opinion, its no more unlimited than the right of free speech which has limits. So ive supported, for instance, bans on the automatic weapons and for a while weve been trying to close whats called the gun show loophole. If you go in a store, its pretty regulated now, to buy a gun at a regular gun shop theres a check done on you and National Computer file of criminal records or if you can Mental Health records or indications of violence. If you go to a gun show, you dont have to do that. Thats a problem. Its even a problem related to Homeland Security because some terrorists have bought guns at those gun shows. So right of private ownership. But the government has a right to limit it. Senator graham, heres where i come from all this. You come from england. A country of strict gun control. 35 to 40 gun murders a year. America has 11 to 12,000. The worst rate by miles of any of the advanced counties in the world. Nobody thinks this is a problem. Everybody thinks the right to bear arms means naz Jovan Belchers case, he had eight firearms. Why do you need eight firearms to defend yourself . Why would any american, explain to me if you can, why would any american need the right to have an ak47 Assault Rifle . Why arent their limits on number of guns. There are limits. Not anyone can own an automatic weapon. But the Second Amendment came about because of your country. The king wouldnt let average people youre going to blame the british. Absolutely. When in doubt always blame the british. Is it the constant threat of the british invasion. Because i can probably relax you on that store. Why did they put it in the constitution . Why did we decide as a nation early on that individuals can bear have the right to bear arms . Because in england the individual person didnt have a whole lot of rights about religion, freedom of speech and we never had a king here. Some people would suggest that maybe thats maybe we should. At the end of the day. Or a queen. I own more than eight guns, why should my constitutional right be limited because you dont understand why i want eight guns . Why do you want eight guns . Because i enjoy shooting. I hunt. Something my dad and i did together. And in the south, thats part of growing up. Now when people abuse a weapon, i think having additional penalties for a crime committed with a gun makes perfect sense. But we are who we are as americans. And we have our faults, but the Second Amendment is ingrained in our culture. 90 of the football fans at South Carolina or clemson home games probably own a weapon. And i just really do believe its about how you act as a person that determines your fate, not the sensibilities of someone else. Because if my individual rights under the constitution are limited by the sensibility of others, i dont have a whole lot of rights. Lets take a break and come back and talk about money. Money, money, money. Because right now, theres a paralysis in this very city about how to resolve things relating to money in america. I want you tree to sort it out. Well, its that time of year again. You know, picturetaking season. And with photo stream, you can share all the photos you want, with just the people you want. Its as easy as pie. Mmmm. Pie. Im in the hearing room in the Senate Committee on foreign relations. The triumvirate of john mccain, Joe Lieberman and lidsy graham. Welcome back to all three of you. You said you just got reelected, this is to president obama, how about doing Something Big that is not liberal . How about doing Something Big that is really is bipartisan . Every big idea he has is a liberal idea that drowns us in debt. How about manning up here, mr. President and use your mandate to bring this country together to stop us from becoming greece. Yes. Man up, barack obama. Strong words. He has a chance to be an historic president. What makes us greece . Its not because the tax code is at 35 versus 39. 6. Whats going to make this country greece, like every other western nation, retiring at 10,000 a day in terms of baby boomer, three workerses for every retiree, in 20 years well have two. Medicare and Social Security are about 30 trillion underfunded. If you did what tip oneill and Ronald Reagan chose to do, reform entitlements, we become the most dominant place on the planet pretty quickly. So what i would plead with the president to do is use this mandate. Redo revenue, which we should. But what keeps us from becoming the country we want to be and damns the future generations is entitlement and spending. When i was 21, my mom died, when i was 22 my dad died. If it wasnt for Social Security survivor benefits, my sister would have never gone to college. Social security is going to fail. When i was 22 we needed the 300 and something bucks we got a month. Im 57, i have no kids, i could easily give up 400 in retirement from Social Security to help people who cant. As a reality for republicans is that president obama has won a second term. In many ways he won the argument. Now im sure hes thinking about history and legacy and he doesnt have to worry about being reelected. That gives you a power that you dont have in the first term. But hes managed to box the republicans into a place you just dont want to be, where it looks like youre prepared to allow the middle class of america to get taxed from january onwards at at higher level to save the backsides of the wealthiest 2 of americans when 70 of all americans polled say we want the 2 to be paying more tax. That arguments gone, isnt it . Yes, it is. Look, the president can rightly say that he made clear during the campaign for reelection that this was the beginning of how he was going to deal with our National Debt problems, raise taxes on the top 2 . He come in with the mandate, and now he continues to advocate it and it gets great support from the american people. I think its part of a solution to our debt problem, but if you raise taxes the way the president wants, its about it feills about 7 of the hole e have now. I say back to that, it is still 7 . What he also has to do is reduce the entitlements but this is the point. You guys are the most experienced senators in washington. Where is this deal in the end going to wash out . You know what . The question is whether we have the political will to put the deal together that most people in both sides, both parties will tell you is what has to happen. And that is, yes, raise taxes, raise revenue, you got to do that in fairness and in political honesty and praktality and the biggest driver of the debt is not the regular spending of our government, things like defense, Homeland Security, education, its socalled entitlements. Youve got to kurt althe increase in spending on things like medicare thats putting us in the hole. What you dont want to do you dont want the make it punitive for people to make charitable donations. To me thats another lose argument for the republican. You got to be very careful where you encourage the cutting of entitlements. Yeah. One thing i dont think i should ask a democrat to do is turn medicare into a voucher program. You know, the paul ryan budget had a premium support system, w