carney wilson, wendy wilson and chiaynna phillips on life, love and getting the band back together. >> we never dreamed it could be this good the second time around. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. i'll get to my interview with wilson phillips in a moment. first wael hear from actor and lawman steven seagal on this week's big story. the outspoken actor takes on the trayvon martin tragedy and he's not holding back. later on i talk to hollywood star and ceo jessica alba. >> you can invest in health care and you can invest in education, which at the end of the day how can any society drive if they're not healthy and if they're not educated? they won't be able to compete in the world. >> steven seagal isn't just an action movie star. he's also been in law enforcement working as a reserve deputy chief. he's with us tonight talking hollywood life, keeping america great, and trayvon martin. let's start, let's talk about trayvon martin briefly. this case that's gripped america at the moment. this young black teenager killed in the street unarmed, under a law which at the moment has protected the guy that killed him. it's called stand your ground. now, you're a tough guy actor. you stood your ground toe to toe with the best of them. what do you think about this case? >> i mean, unfortunately, i don't have all the details. i've been a police officer for over 20 years and i've investigated murders and all kinds of different crimes. originally, you know, i was told that this was a situation where this guy was a neighborhood watch person who saw somebody that he thought was sort of shady and suspicious. he called it in and dispatch told them do not follow him. leave him alone. and then the guy continued to follow him, came up on his porch and started an altercation with him. now i'm being told none of that is true. so if you can tell me what really happened i can give you my opinion. >> my feeling is that he should at least be arrested. the legal process has to at least start, doesn't it? if somebody's dead? lying there unarmed and dead? >> you know what i can tell you? any of the guys on my team, if they did that, they would be on suspension and possibly in jail. >> this issue of stand your ground, florida's one of the states, there's quite a few states visit. i think there's 20 now that have this. florida has the most pronounced version of this law. the most generalized. they've seen an explosion in cases of people using it to get off, effectively killing people. what do you think about the right to defend yourself? where are the parameters? you've been on the law enforcement side. you've been in tough movies. what do you think? >> everybody certainly has the right to defend themselves. that's not to say that they should defy common sense by avoiding or defusing a confrontation. that's very, very important. you know, in other words, if somebody comes up to me and calls me any name he wants to and talks about my mama, i'll say i'm happy you feel that way and turn around and walk away. conversely if he starts swinging at me or pulling out a weapon, then stuff's going to change right away. i think everybody really has to understand that. this law doesn't say that you should look for altercations. what it really should say is you should do anything and everything you can to be able to avoid confrontation. however, as a last resort, if you're really, indeed, in fear for your life you have the right to defend your life. that's what that law -- that's the spirit of that law. >> let's talk movies. >> i got tired of coming up with last-minute desperate solutions to impossible problems created by other [ bleep ] people. >> all of your ridiculous, pitiful antics aren't going to change a thing. you and i, we're puppets in the same sick play. we serve the same master. and he's a lunatic and he's ungrateful. there's nothing we can do about it. >> terrific action film that grossed $160 million worldwide. steven seagal, international superstar. you had this huge, huge hit. i think it's fair to say you haven't had one quite like that since. do you care? once you've had a huge hit like that, is that enough for a movie star? >> for me, if god blessed me with that one great hit, i'm satisfied. but i still got a lot in me and i'd still like to get out there and tell a lot more stories sinmatically. god willing, i'll get the chance to do that. >> what do you think about country right now? what do you think of what's happening to america? >> i think one of the biggest problems that we have right now is border security. and i think that, you know, it seems to me that there's certain administrations in washington who are probably thinking that they may like to have open borders and therefore a lot of what's going on on the borders in my opinion is underpublicized. to say it lightly. >> because you live in arizona. >> right. and i think that there's well over 50,000 people that have been killed in the border wars in the recent past. that's more than afghanistan and iraq put together. i work for joe arpaio who i think is a great sheriff and a great man. it's really a matter of national security. and our borders need to be checked and monitored. i think that, you know -- >> given that, who do you want to be president? >> well, i mean -- >> come november? >> i mean, to be honest with you, i am kind of on the fence now because even the people that are opposing obama are not necessarily, you know, brilliant in my opinion. but right now in my opinion, when you have cartel members coming and recruiting children off of the playground and they're recruiting people who no longer have the tattoos, no longer have criminal records, they're people that are going to be undetectable to come and work for them and you have them with their, you know -- they've been established all over the united states of america now. it's a huge problem. you know, i'd like to be able to bring a panel in here of some of the great experts on what's really happening on the border and let them tell you for your show. because it would amaze you. >> it would be a fascinating show. part of the problem of the whole debate is that anybody that argues in the way that you're arguing usually gets labeled racist and so on. >> it's nothing to do with that. >> it becomes a different debate. >> in maricopa county, if somebody commits a crime -- we get these high risk warnts for murder, rape, armed robbery, whatever it is and we go after those people. when we arrest somebody in maricopa county we don't care if they're chinese, japanese, korean, mexican, french, italian. if you commit a crime, we arrest you. >> your new project is called "true justice." it starts on march 30th on the reelz channel. tell me quickly about that. >> i mean, i wanted to set up a situation where i could do kind of a show that would be based on things that i've seen in my career as a police officer and my friends and derive a lot of the stories that i thought were important and create a police show that was realistic and a little bit different than the average stuff that's going on. >> are you enjoying it? >> yeah. it's a lot of fun. >> what great ambition do you have left? what's the one thing, if i had the power to give it to you, you'd take it? >> i've been in awe bu dab by for the last few months working with them. very, very honorable people, the people that i've been working with. they're talking about building a huge multimedia fund to make movies and televisions and different things -- television shows and different things like that. i want to be able to work on a project that would give people around the world the chance to represent their own people, their own culture, their own stories, rather than just hollywood really, you know, dominating and that's a dream of mine. >> do you still fight? >> yes, i do. >> are you still dangerous? >> let me tell you this. the guys that i'm training in ufc, you know, some of them have gotten their championship belts, world championship belts because they've attributed that to me and me teaching them. so i still know a thing or two. >> i'm always amazed steven seagal, every single bar you ever go into in the world there'll be some jack ass in the corner who wants to come and try it on with you. does that actually happen? >> once or twice. >> what happens to them? >> bad things. >> for that reason, steven seagal, i am wrapping up this interview and wishing you all the very best for your day, s. >> thank you very much. coming up, getting the band back together. lovely ladies of wilson phillips. 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[ bleep ]. >> really? >> it's the last one. last one. >> last one. ♪ i know there's pain, why do you lock yourself up in these chains ♪ >> that was "bridesmaids." huge hit with the surprise performer of "hold on," wilson phillips. 20 years after their debut the lay ddies of wilson phillips ar reunites. carnie wilson, wendy wilson and chynna phillips. it is 19 years since i last interviewed you for a british newspaper. you don't look a day older. >> thank you. >> i, however, do. >> so funny. >> are you all still friends? is this all for show? do you go and beat each other up the moment this interview is over? >> we're friends forever. >> friends for life. >> nothing could ever come between your friendship. >> even if we wanted it to. >> has it been a rocky past? >> what, the friendship? >> yes. >> well, there have been times where, you know, the three of us have been -- obviously we disbanded for a while. obviously there were some times where we weren't speaking. so, yeah, there have been some rough patches. you know, the three of us learned a lot of lessons along the way. >> what are the lessons? >> oh, gosh. communication, communication, communication. >> and acceptance that we all three are different people. we have different personalities. >> because you're all quite feisty, aren't you? >> we can be. >> in our own way. and respect for each other for our differences. >> we fight when we're tired. we fight when we're stressed. it's like if you're at home. you know, your husband -- when do you fight? when you're tired and you're stressed. >> and performing and having hit records and touring and all that kind of thing, and all the press and the demands and the pressure, it is actually mentally and physically pretty exhausting, isn't it? i can imagine that you reach a point when you just don't want to be in the same room as each other. >> you just want to stick needles in your eyes. yeah. it's like you are at the end of your rope. you're so done. you're done. you're baked. you just can't even imagine doing one more show, one more interview, one more day. it's just too much. you cannot hold on for one more day. you cannot. >> when i saw you in the early '90s and you were at the end of a very long press day, i could see it in your eyes. you were done with it. if we have to do one more bloody interview. i got it. having spoken to many artists, it's so relentless when you have a big hit and you go off and celebrate. everyone thinks it's so glamorous. >> add on top of that that your management is actually -- i mean, that your record company is actually managing you. that's a real conflict of interests. that definitely drove us into the ground. >> we're in our early 40s. we have nine children between us. i think now we come from a gratitude space. and we feel we're lucky to be here doing this. so why fight about little things? just celebrate what we're so lucky to be doing still. >> when "bridesmaids" really popped and became this huge hit -- >> it fell out of the sky. >> hundreds of millions of people around the world watching you perform. >> yeah. it was really fun. >> so exciting. >> it was a huge blessing for us. we had no idea about the storyline or anything. and we just took a chance and did a cameo and, wow, what a great result we got. >> amazing result. has it given you a completely new lease of life as a career? >> i feel like it has. in a way. >> it's opened a ton of doors again for us. it kind of put us back on the map as you might say. but we definitely feel like we still have our road cut out for us ahead of us, because we want to continue singing together and making more records and writing songs. >> and touring. >> just because you were in a hit movie isn't necessarily going to guarantee that success, you know what i'm saying? >> i think the point is, the kind of roll model element of that film, do you have any -- when you watched it back going, whoa! for your kids maybe. >> definitely i tid not want my kids seeing the movie. that's for sure. that was not going to happen. >> they came to the theater. with the first scene when she's, like, on to have of him i said, okay, out you go. that was it. they didn't see the rest of it. >> it's not for children, i don't think. >> i found it very disturbing this was going to be their introduction to the female forum. >> i think it's that edgy kind of "saturday night live" just edgy anything goes women can do what they want and just have that edge. i don't know. you know? >> the second time around, when you have all this success again now, people will say to me it's a lot sweeter. because when you stop it and it all goes away and you watch other people enjoying all the highs and the good stuff, you kind of miss it. even though it's been painful a lot of the time and horrible. actually a part of you really misses it. is it nice to be able to recapture it? >> absolutely. yeah. recapturing it has been a lot of fun. and we never even dreamed that it could be this good the second time around. i mean, wendy used to say to me, i never in a million years thought we were going to sing together again. >> i thought it was over. we're back together. >> that first time you got back together and began to sing, how did that feel? >> what would that be? >> those first couple shows. >> we would look at each other like, we actually could look at each other on stage because we would start tearing up. >> really? >> yeah. >> that emotional? >> it's very mushy, but true. >> the funny thing is that we sounded exactly the same and it felt like the same dynamic. ten years later. >> we sing these songs in our sleep. forever embedded. >> i want to come back and i want to talk about this album. because this is like a tribute, really, to your famous parents. now, everybody knows the background to this. this hasn't exactly been an easy past for any of you. so i was struck by this. we're going to have a short break. we're going to come back and explore this album "dedicated." we actually dedicate to our mothers and fathers who are with us. we want you all to know how much these songs mean to us. you're recreating the magic of your parents. i have to say it's been a tough journey. let's come back after the break and talk about that. it seems like a very redemtive terz to me. >> sounds fabulous. >> yes, it does. every time a local business opens its doors or creates another laptop bag or hires another employee, it's not just good for business, it's good for the entire community. at bank of america, we know the impact that local businesses have on communities. that's why we extended $6.4 billion in new credit to small businesses across the country last year. because the more we help them, the more we help make opportunity possible. obviously, it's disappointing, but, you know, it is -- it is what it is and there's nothing we can do to change it. you're letting a lot of people down. >> we'll just reschedule for later in the year. >> that's great. >> wendy, she's your sister. of course you're not going to be upset. there's three of us in wilson phillips. so if carnie can't do new orleans there's really nothing i can do. >> "still holding on" is your new reality show on the tv guide network. you are still holding on in many ways. very glamorously, i must say. i have to say, carnie, you're wasting away. >> she's the incredible shrinking woman. >> you're disappearing before my eyes. i think you lost weight in three segments. >> she keeps saying i think you lost weight from the beginning of the day. >> you've talked about this famously over the years. you've been up and down like a yo yo. >> yeah. >> you look great. tell me how you got to this happy place. >> well, for about two years i really sort of let go of my focus on my health. really, just plain and simple. and i let a lot of old habits come back into the picture. and it was -- i wasn't feeling good and i actually really was getting scared about what it said on the scale and how i physically felt. so i needed to reach out for help and i did and i needed some more intervention. never ashamed to talk about it, admit that i need help. and i had a lap band put on over my gastric bypass. it's helping me feel full. you know, but these two can, like, tell you how i've made these changes. i mean, my choices, my habits are getting so much better. i'm eating no sugar and no white flour. i'm planning my meals. i'm going for the long haul. i'm working on my inside as well as the outside. i don't know if i did that last time. it's been 13 years. i've had children. i've had a lot of personal and spiritual growth that i think is going to help me to maintain this forever. that's the goal. >> you said this great quote. in a sense it's very powerful. i can't smoke a joint. i can't have a glass of wine because i want ten joints, ten glasses of wine. that's my obsessive-compulsive and addictive behavior. i've really struggled since i've been sober. that seemed to me such an honest thing to say. >> for me personally with my genetics and experience and the way i can be obsessive with things. i just for a few years got into a really bad rut. and i decided that it's either, you know, if i want to have children, have a family and live a long life, i got to make some real, real se