0 i'm not exactly sure what is going on in this one. some of these people are some of the most photographed people on the planet and as a result, sometimes they get caught in less than flattering lights, sometimes in lights that aren't real. a picture may tell a thousand words but suspects a picture used improperly, well, it tells lies. this is "piers morgan live." welcome to the viewers in the united states and around the world. the spiritual leader beat out everyone. the most prestigious person of the world. also, donald trump on the selfie, on the castro handshake and his add voice for the president on obama care. >> you have to get it fixed. it's not fixed. it's very broken. there's no security, and frankly, a lot of people that are signing up, don't have insurance. >> man versus shark, it may surprise you. america's second favorite anchor man, not this guy you love him and i'll talk to the man who made him who he is today. >> stay classy piers morgan. >> i want to begin with breaking news. trouble in the international space station. nasa is scaling back after finding a problem with the cooling system. officials may decide an emergency spacewalk is needed. joining me is john zerella on the phone. it broke late today, this, and it's not the first time we had to do repair work of this nature. how big a threat is it potentially? can it get worse quickly? >> well, probably not, piers. you know, they have it under control. they have two of these cooling pumps on the international space station, one of them, this morning stopped working suddenly. they were able to get it restarted again. but they are troubleshooting the issue. the problem is they aren't able to provide enough cooling for the entire space station now because the one restarted is not working at 100%. so they had to shut down the non-critical system in three of the modulars on the station, the u.s. harmony modular, the european colombia and japanese modular. you mentioned it happen problems with this before. in fact, back in may they had to replace a pump on the international space station on the outside of the space station and require spacewalks to do it. and the pump that was the replacement pump is the one that's now not working again, so it could come to the point where they have to do another spacewalk to either replace this pump, have three spares on the station. they could do that, if it would be necessary, which would be called an emergency space walk. right now, nasa is saying the life support systems are working fine, the crew is not in any danger, and they are getting their normal night sleep. >> obviously, a huge success with the movie gravity. everyone has great interest in the space station again and they will be fearing all sorts of things after watching that film, i should think. in reality, this kind of repair work is one of the big 14 repair things that they expect and anticipate, right, there are 14 different types of maintenance they assume may happen. >> yeah, there is no question about it. they practice for these contingencies repeatedly out in houston, you know, in the giant water tank they have out there that simulates zero gravity. so they run through the simulations and they have done this repair before, this replacement, but it is certainly a critical item. they need the loops working to keep the station cool and to keep experiments running, scientific experiments, which are not in danger. the freezers are working, but it is absolutely critical they fix it or find a way to fix it without a spacewalk, but certainly that is one of the main possibilities. they might have to go out there and replace it. >> thank you very much indeed. i want to turn to the big story, the man called the american pastor, billy graham. welcome back to you, franklin. let me start by asking you how your father is. you put out a plea for prayer for him and have a big celebration recently, but he was taken sick shortly after that i understand. >> he was. on november 7th, we had a celebration. 900 people were in the room and it was a wonderful evening and i think that was the best i've seen him in years, the strongest, articulate but a few days later he got an infection and he's home and vitals are good, piers. he's just extremely weakened. at 95 you don't have a lot of reserves. i know he would appreciate and the family would if people would pray for him. >> you released a video of the last prayer. let's take a look at that. >> this country is in great need of a spiritual awakening. there have been times i've gone from city to city and seen how far people have wondered from god. of all the things that i've seen and heard, there's on one message that can change people's lives and hearts. >> there is a way, if you come by the way of the cross. >> it's extraordinary the parallels between your father's life and nelson mandela. similar ages and we sadly lost nelson mandela last week. he knew him, didn't he, your father? i think he actually corresponded with him. >> they corresponded. i don't think they met personally. they did correspond. my father preached, i believe in '73 in south africa but would not go unless they gave permission. it was the first time the south african government agreed to that meeting. my father said at that time he felt that apartheid was doomed and spoke out against it. he spoke out against segregation in this country. >> we have a clip of your father inside south africa in '93, doing that, speaking out. listen to this. >> jesus was a man. he was human. he was not a white man. he was not a black man. he came from that part of the world that touches africa and asia and europe and he probably had a brown skin. christianity is not a white man's religion and don't let anybody ever tell you it's white or black. christ belongs to all people. he belongs to the whole world. >> it's incredible watching your father in action like that. he sends such a far-reaching and long-term effect on the american people, just as mandela did on the south africans. do you see anybody who is anywhere near the mantle of your father to take up that kind of spiritual leadership in america? >> i don't know. there is great preachers in this country and great men of god and i'm sure god will raise up. my father, this is not a position my father tried to obtain. it wasn't something he lobbied for or worked for. it's something god did. if you ever, piers, see a turtle on a fence post, you'll know that turtle did not get there by himself and my father always felt he was somewhat of a turtle on a fence post. he realizes that god put him in that position that he had all those years. >> i've been spending the week talking to my sons about mandela, explaining why his legacy is so important. i would imagine if they ask me questions about your father, what would you think would be the best way to articulate what his legacy should be? >> my father has preached the same message and that's god's gospel, that god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. my father took this message of god's love to the world. he never changed that message. he never got off message. he kept to the -- and it's god's message. the gospel. it's the good news that god loves sinners and piers, i'm a sinner and the fact that god loves me in spite of my sin, but i had to repent of my sin to tell god i'm sorry and accept his gift of salvation who is jesus christ who died, shed his blood and god raised his son to life and i was 22 when i asked christ to forgive me. >> fortunately, i'm sin free. kidding. let's go to "time magazine." i was thrilled that edward snowden didn't get it and they give it to a guy that as a catholic has shaken up the church to the raftors, really. what would you fatter make of pope francis? >> i can't speak on behalf of my father, but i appreciate the pope's focus on the poor, and then identifying with the poor. and i think my father would agree with that but again, i don't want to speak for him. i do appreciate his voice for the poor. >> it does seem great humility like your father, nelson mandela. let's turn to this christmas box you have here. it's an amazing story this. tell me what you do. the samaritans purse, as you call it. >> we do. this year it's operation christmas child. we collect over 10 million this year. got a 747 leaving tomorrow out of john f. kennedy airport going to the philippines. and these boxes are packed by families, and they put all -- here is a little -- >> cloths and toys and toiletries. >> school supplies. but the most important thing i ask people to do is pray. pray for the children who will receive your boxes. i don't know but god does and we know god will hear the prayer of one righteous person. what god might do for the children of the world? this is packed for families and children all over the world and give them to places like the philippines. >> if you want to help www.samaritanspurse.org. i congratulate you on that. you talk about prayer, i would like everyone to join in prayer for your father, too. he's struggling and 95 and had an incredible life and i wish him the best. >> thank you, sir. >> and you and your family during the holidays. thanks for coming in? >> thank you. man versus shark. when we come back, a visit to donald trump, speaking of shark's layers at his fifth avenue headquarters. i had to ask, will he throw his hat back in the ring and run for new york governor, as many think he may? try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. zyrtec-d®. at the pharmacy counter.