0 this is piers morgan live. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. time is running out to save millions of victims in the philippines. also, a man who knows all about out of control behavior. and the films tell the story of america. now live from tacloban. anderson, thank you. incredibly powerful reporting there. you've obviously covered some of the worst natural disasters from haiti to katrina and others. how does this compare right there on the ground in tacloban to what you've covered before? >> reporter: it's, the death toll is smaller. we don't know the official death toll. nobody really knows because there is no actual search for those who have died. there's no accounting for those who have died at this point. in haiti, you had hundreds of thousands of people who died in port-au-prince alone. but in terms of actual devastation, this entire area is just gone. the houses that were here are largely gone. and people have nowhere to go. there isn't electricity. there isn't food. there isn't water. it's not as if there's neighbors that they can fall back on. so it's always hard to compare one to another. certainly, for the people here, it's the worst thing that's ever happened to them and the worst thing that ever will happen to them. there are families, there are mothers having to sleep neared bodies of their dead children, having to smell their dead children, and this is day five. it's been going on now for five days that their child has been laying near them, that they have been smelling their child while they search for their other children who are still missing. and they're searching all by themselves or they're searching with the help of just a few relatives. but many of those relatives are searching for other relatives who are missing. so there's not really a concerted, organized, the organization level is not something we've seen. and on day five in haiti, we saw a greater impact of outside groups who had been able to come in. we're just starting in the last couple hours to see little bit of changes here at the airport here in tacloban. the u.s. military is very akeen, very confident they're going to get this airport up and running on a 24 hour basis, hopefully, that will make a difference in getting splays in here. but then the challenge is getting them out to the areas that need it the most. >> we're getting a number of cnn eye reporters telling us that they fear there is a rising sense of anarchy among sections of the population. and the help that they desperately need is not arriving in time. do you sense that? >> reporter: well, i'm here with paul hancocks who has been here longer than i have. is there a fear of anarchy or looting? i mean, what, what i see, really, based on your reporting was people in desperate straits taking what they can. >> looting has certain connotations. if you have no food and water for your family, you're going to try to steal that food and water, so this is out of desperation in many cases. you can see hundreds of people behind me trying to get on a plane, trying to get out of here. they want to leave because of security concerns. if you have no food and water for your family, you're going to try to steal that food and water, so this is out of desperation in many cases. you can see hundreds of people behind me trying to get on a plane, trying to get out of here. they want to leave because of security concerns. one lady just had twins three weeks ago. and she was worried because the house next to her had just been ransacked. she was concerned that she might be next and her children might be injured. and one lady said to me, i don't know if i'm going to survive this, because she hasn't had food and water. so to survive the typhoon, the storm surge and then to survive the aftermath. >> i was just at the makeshift clinic here. i talked to a doctor an hour ago who said they don't have enough food and water at that clinic. that clinic is the only hospital in this entire area that is actually seeing patients. the patients are saying the main hospitals have no electricity, have no supplies and aren't admitting more patients. so if that clinic underneath that tower right there behind us doesn't have enough food and water for the people coming there, what does that tell you about everybody else? you would think that would be a top priority to be stocked with food and water. >> right, and you hinted earlier in haiti, it was obviously a much more focused area that was hit. and therefore the international relief that came in was able to target that very directly. how much more complicated in the rescue mission in the philippines given that there are over 2,000 small islands which are inhabited there, many of which have been hit in some way by the typhoon. it must make it much more complicated that it's so spread out like that. >> no doubt about that. and the weather has not been cooperative. no doubt about that. and the road systems in the philippines have not been invested in over the years, due to years of corruption, due to years of the government siphoning money off of projects like that for decades of that frankly going back a long time. so there are big infrastructure problems here that are all playing a part in this, but i'm not even talking about, you know, areas outlying. we're talking about tacloban, a few blocks from here, people not having water, not having access to food, not having access to shelter. god only knows what's happening in small villages along the coast where people can't get to. >> that's the thing. this road into tacloban city has been open since sunday, we're now wednesday. and there's no supplies getting to that area. there's at least 100 kilometers more of area that has exactly the same damage as this. >> this is the first time the philippine military and authorities are able to clean up the airport area, which is a great improvement. that's a great thing. but not to take away from what they're doing, but it is day five, and, you know, it's frustrating for people who have been sitting at this airport for five days trying to figure out why wasn't that done on day two or day three or day four. >> it's obviously a very urgent and pressing situation there. now i want to turn to anna coren in cebu. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: this is very much the staging ground of the disaster relief operation. the c-130 hercules are flying out of here. we joined one of those military cargo planes yesterday and traveled to a town in the eastern province. it was the first town to be hit by super typhoon haiyan, as we flew over, the place was devastated. every single building was flattened. we were on a muddy runway for all of 20 minutes to deliver that aid. every single palm tree around that huge, huge trees just flattened. you know, snapped like twigs. it really gives you an idea of the force of this storm. there were many, many locals that raced to that airfield while we there on the ground delivering that aid. this is a township of 50,000 people. and yet, everyone is now virtually homeless. there was splice, perhaps, for several 00 families that might last a couple of days. the people there were saying they desperately need food. they desperately need fresh water. no medical supplies have come in. and as far as shelter goes, they're scavenging and salvaging what they have from the debris from their homes. you know, we had torrential rain here last night, piers that only adds to the misery that these people are going through. >> rescuers are facing huge challenges tonight. in this country, millions more people will be taking statins. welcome. sanjay, let's start with what's happening in the philippines. you've reported from many similar disaster areas. what are the immediate problems, after five days with the concentration of rain and the lack of clean water and so on. what are the immediate problems now that will be facing rescuers on the ground? >> well, the basics do apply here, there's no question that all the things you're hearing from paula and anderson and anna, getting the potable water very important. and what is the long-term strategy for this as well. should they be creating generators to sustain that water demand longer term. but let me speak to something that you asked about as well, with regard to the numbers. i've covered a lot of these types of things as you pointed out. people focus a lot on the number of people who have died on one end of the spectrum over here. on the other end of the spectrum, people who lived and who have adequate resources. but in the middle here is that vulnerable population. and this is where it's different from a lot of other natural disasters. there are a lot of people who survived this but are very vulnerable. they're in that middle swath. and over the next one to two week, everything matters. everything is different. the basics matter. people talk about infectious disease outbreaks being of concern, yes, they are. but the next one to two weeks make the biggest difference in what happens to this middle swath. do they go over here, survive, and get the help they need or do they pass away because of preventible deaths? and the basics really, really do apply here. >> it's desperately urgent to get these supplies in there. let's turn to this development on the use of statins in america. tell me exactly what has happened, how it will change things for americans. >> basically, the guidelines have been loosened for who can get these statin drugs. they are cholesterol lowering drugs. and it's quite remarkable. we talk about the fact that roughly around 30, 35 million people are on these medications right now. and with this loosening of the guidelines, it could go up to double that number. 70 million people. so instead of having sort of a bunch of different criteria for determining who's going to be on these medications or not, if you have diabetes, type one or type two, you'd be a candidate for statins. if you have any evidence of heart disease right now, you'd be a candidate for statins. so it's really quite stunning, actually, in terms of how many people would now be possibly getting a statin prescription or recommendation from their doctor. let me just say, we have pretty good strategies of preventing a lot of these problems in the first lace with some basic things. just the better diets, exercise, all the things i've talked about for years. the fact that we're going in the opposite direction, the fact that 70 million people may be on these drugs in the next couple years it's mind numbing. i feel like people are waving the white flag on all these things, and i hope it doesn't take our eye off the ball in terms of focusing on those basics. >> you're top cardiologist, it does seem to be sending a completely wrong signal, doesn't it? trying to make americans fitter faster, leaner, eat healthier. now they can think, there's a much easier way? just pop a few pills? >> you're absolutely right. and i think sanjay is on the mark on this. before i get into the statins. on the philippines, scripps health is in it. and our chief officer is really into the medical response team, our health system is ready and willing to go to the philippines. now let's get into the statins. the big change, besides what sanjay's already mentioned is that we have these target numbers. so for people who didn't have heart disease, it was getting the ldl down to 100. and for those who did have heart disease, it was getting it down to 70. and there was no basis for these numbers. so they've been abandoned. and these guidelines have been around for ten years. is there has been a fixation of americans to get their numbers right, even though so many of them are just getting a cosmetic effect on their blood test without actually improving their risk of getting heart disease. so this has been a big problem. we've already overcooked the use of statins. the data, the evidence for people who have heart disease is overwhelming. it's the people who don't have heart disease, this concern of 40 million americans already and possibly doubling that, that is really worry some. >> let me turn to obama care. president clinton today came out with a pretty striking criticism of president obama. listen to what he had to say. >> i personally believe, even if it takes changing the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people. >> sanjay, we know that the takeup on obama care has been extremely low. the white house has now conceded that when the numbers are published they will be very low. we now have president clinton really directly challenging president obama to, if it means changing the law, change the law, but keeping his word. this is turning into a huge mess, isn't it? >> yeah. i think there's no two ways about that. you know, i think with regard to this idea of keeping the plans, this is another example of the message really having been not properly given. and, you know, we talk about the specific thing that if you have your insurance you can keep it. as it turns out, as you though, as president clinton said, that's not true. you and i have talked about this before after i interviewed secretary sebelius. the number one cause of bankruptcy in the u.s. is medical bills. that's because there are really bad plans out there. that's a red herring. this is a small part of the population that this fits into that they have plans and they want to keep them. but we have regulations for cars that are unsafe. people say i want to keep my pinto. i don't want to be forced to boy a ferrari. pintos were the cars that caught on fire if they got rear ended. those weren't safe cars. if they want to keep that analogy going, there are plans out there that aren't good plans. to the point that you asked, the promise was that you could keep your plan if you had. and i think that's what he's address. >> do you feel, as a top practitioner of medicine in america that obama care is well intended? that if it all worked well it would be a force for good in america? >> well, i think eventually, many of the glitches will get fixed. and indeed, more people will be covered. butt problem that whole affordable care act has is it doesn't incorporate all the innovations. it doesn't capture the exciting aspects of medicine, whether it be genomics. and wireless medicine. it's tuned into insurance coverage but missing where really the most exciting time in the history of medicine is right now. >> thank you both. a reminder that sanjay has his show on saturday. quite extraordinary story on a british man who traveled to amsterdam to get medical marijuana. a new development on medical marijuana. when we come back. bullying from the locker room to the boardroom. >> you're telling me there wasn't any signs going into that? >> you know, as the leader, as his best friend on the team, that's what has me miffed. how i missed this. and i never saw it. i never saw it coming. also, out of control behavior. i'll ask what artie lange thinks about rob ford's out of control behavior. for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer. be ready with children's motrin. ♪ ♪