with alisyn camerota and john berman. we want to welcome everyone, all of our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." it is tuesday, september 15th, 6:00 here in new york. and there is a crises unfolding in every corner of the united states this morning. residents along the gulf coast, bracing for hurricane sally, which continues to churn and move very slowly towards landfall. the big concern with this hurricane is that it could dump torrential rain for days and bring a deadly storm surge from louisiana to the florida panhandle. you're about to see new video from a u.s. air force hurricane hunter giving us a view inside the storm. then on the west coast, nearly a hundred wildfires are now burning out of control. 22 people are reported missing in oregon. because of these fires, the west coast has now become -- it now has four of the world's ten most polluted cities. >> i'm with you. >> listen to that, john. that is the headline that got my attention. four of the world's most polluted cities. and some of that smoke you're seeing is even reaching parts of the east coast. >> we're being hit from the west, from the south, and also being hit from within this morning by the coronavirus pandemic. the u.s. death toll is nearing 15,000. new audio out this morning where the president told bob woodward in april that he was so concerned by the virus that he left a room after someone sneezed. but you know, we don't have to listen to recordings from the past. look at the now. this picture tells you everything. this is the president in the back there, right in the middle, at an event in phoenix yesterday. look at everyone in the audience. they're packed in, indoors, no social distancing, few masks, a lot of seniors here who could be at high risk. look at everyone at the head table now, side by side, everyone except one person, who? who? >> i'll guess! >> the president! he is conspicuously distant from people. it's fair to ask, who was he taking care of? not the audience, not the head table, himself, only himself. clearly, he knows the risks. his aides know. whoever set up the chairs knows the risk. the science knows. the science knows about coronavirus, and by the way, climate change, whatever the president says out loud. let's begin with the urgent danger from hurricane sally all along the gulf coast. chad myers has been tracking the storm. and chad, this thing has largely stalled in terms of his forward momentum. and that might be a bad thing. >> truly, we always look at the numbers on the top of the screen here. the biggest number you want to see is 2. that is miles per hour in forward. it is not moving at all. it is cisitting over there over the northern gulf, pounding northern florida with an awful lot of rainfall. as it creeps towards the coast, it will continue to put a lot of rainfall into mississippi and alabama, as well. we're talking 20 to 30 inches of rain. a surge, too, but probably the surge is in the ballpark of 7 to 10 feet. that's not katrina surge, but a lot of saltwater up into your marshes. if your house is less than 7 feet above sea level, it's going to be wet, or with the waves, washed away. there's the radar. we've been watching it all night long. it does not have a closed eye. that is the good news. which means it's not really intensifying. we are seeing a drop in the millibars, which means the temperature is going down overnight. now it has used so much of the water there, used up the warm water, mixed it up and made it slightly cooler, i don't think we'll get any rapid intensification from here. 85 miles per hour, likely not coming onshore until almost this time tomorrow. now, it's only a couple hundred miles or less than that offshore. and it doesn't come onshore for 24 hours, that's the lingering rain that we're going to have. it's going to be an 85-mile-per-hour storm forecast that. but it's the purple that we're worried about. this purple in the middle of the screen, that's 10 inches or more in a very large area. literally bigger than probably delaware will get 10 inches, everywhere across that area and the surge on top of that. freshwater flooding, saltwater flooding, an absolute likelihood. and obviously wind damage if you get gusts over 100 miles per hour. hurricane warnings from pensacola, still into louisiana, because the storm is just sitting there and spinning and the winds are 85. that's what a hurricane warning is. hurricane conditions are expected all across that northern gulf coast. we'll keep watching it. yesterday was a scary day. this thing went from about 65 to 100 in a rapid -- within 12 hours. 24 hours. and so right now, we're not seeing that rapid intensification. that's good news. it's down to 85 and should stay there, john. >> rain and rain and rain and rain in one area until at least thursday. all right, chad, thanks for keeping us posted there. let's get right to the scene. cnn's ed lavendera is live for us in gulfport, mississippi, where i think you're getting some of the last few dry moments you're going to have for days, ed. >> right, i was fully expecting to wake up this morning to be reporting here from the gulf coast and rain, but this storm evidently slowing down so much so, that the first rain bands haven't even started arriving on this section of the mississippi gulf coast. but those alerts, those warnings are out. people are paying a great deal of attention. we are not seeing a lot of people evacuating this storm. i talked to one resident yesterday who was filling up sandbags along the shoreline yesterday afternoon. and he said that most people around here are willing to kind of hunker down and stick it out, at least up to a category 2 hurricane. and it appears that we won't see anything beyond that in this particular storm. but those preparations are underway. john and alisyn, this is a marina that is usually filled with hundreds of boats. local officials here issued an order that all of the vessels and boats had to be removed from this marina. it is quite a sight. if you go about a mile inland in strip malls, the parking lots are filled with the boats that were once here on the waterfront and have been moved inland. those are the kind of preparations that people are doing here, as they are fully expecting now a flooding event that will come over the next few days. and that's what people here are bracing for and preparing for, as best they can, as they watch the slow push of hurricane sally come here toward the mississippi and alabama coastlines. john and alisyn? >> ed, stay safe. we'll check back with you. so this will be the second powerful hurricane to slam the gulf coast in less than three weeks. joining us now is cnn political commentator, mitch landrieu, the former mayor of new orleans. mayor landrieu, just tell us, what are mayors in mississippi, alabama, louisiana doing as they see this, as chad said, lumbering storm head towards them? >> well, first of all, all the governors and the maurm mayors the gulf coast are hurricane strong and prepared. they all do a really good job of seeing what they can see and telling people what's coming their way and helping them prepare. of course a couple of weeks ago, we had laura, which was devastating for southwest louisiana. this one looks like it's going to miss most of louisiana and really the impact is going to be along the gulf coast, between east of louisiana and then bay st. louis, mobile, pensacola, in that area. the real challenge is as chad told you, he's the champ. he can remember all of these storms like they're his children, if something is moving at 2 or 3 miles an hour and sits on top of you for a long period of time, you can see something like isaac, although it probably won't be that dramatic, that happened in 2012. that storm was moving at about 4 or 5 miles an hour. if it sits on you and there's vertical rain for a long period of time, then all of a sudden, some of the storm surge and a fairly significant amount of flooding could come your way. ed is sitting there on the coast, he's in the middle of it right now. he's going to have a bird's eye view of what's coming. but just because the storm is not a category 3 doesn't mean that it can't hurt you significantly, if it has a substantial amount of vertical rainfall over a long period of time. >> and it is the rain that is the concern here. someone asked on social media a few moments ago, mayor, what's the plural of apocalypse? they're talking about, obviously, this hurricane. which could be a serious damaging rain event, but what's happening on the west coast with these fires, too, where you see a record amount burned over there. and there is the issue of the political response, and acknowledging what is behind it and acknowledging the role that climate change has made in making parts of the country more susceptible to this extreme weather. and i want you to listen, particularly you, because of where you've lived your whole life, listen to what the president says about the science here. now, he's talking specifically about the fires, but it might as well be the intensity of hurricanes, as well. listen. >> if we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management, we're not going to succeed together protecting californians. >> okay. it will start getting cooler. you just watch. >> i wish science agreed with you. >> well, i don't think science knows, actually. >> that last part there is so deliberate. and in some ways, insidious. i don't think science knows. what's the importance of that message, mayor? >> well, i would say that it's delusional, but i think that it's intentional. so the president, we have a president that is incredibly soft on russia and really hard on science, and it puts the people of the united states of america at risk. you know, when you are the commander in chief, your first order of business is to save lives and property. everything else comes after. and just like the mayors and the governors and everybody are telling everybody about the storm, it's coming, we want you to prepare for it, we'll be there with you, it's been the exact opposite with the pandemic, exact opposite with wildfires, the exact opposite with the hurricane. and when you deny the impacts of climate change, you put the people of the united states of america and quite frankly the world at risk. but you do the same thing with the pandemic and of course, you do the same thing with hurricanes as well. the president has demonstrated tomb and time again that he is going to misuse his power to hurt people and to abuse them and to not focus their attention on where it needs to be for the purposes of getting re-elected. that's his prerogative. he's completely and totally wrong. he's misusing his power. and now the people of the united states will have the power to make a different choice in a couple of months and i hope and trust they'll make a great choice. >> this translates to policy. it's not just that he holds these beliefs not based on science, it translates to his policy. he believes that this is -- that the wildfires are about forest management. and as governor gavin newsom had to point out to him, well, okay, i am in charge of 2% of the federal lands of california, or of the land of california. you're in charge of 57%. as if it's federal lands. so he's not doing what it takes to try to prevent the wildfire. >> well, to state the obvious, of course it's not academic. what the person who makes all the decisions think, completely determines what the response the going to be. and the president ignores the existence of a threat and therefore doesn't do what he's supposed to do, and use the power that he has to help other people, then they're going to get hurt. it can't be anymore simple than that. and so when he says, the science doesn't know, and the generals don't know, and the doctors don't know, and he does know. and yet he tells us, when talking to bob woodward, that he knew what the threat of the pandemic was and he downplayed it, why would you ever believe anything else he ever says? it's really time to move on. but the people of america are really smart. they're going to brace themselves for what's coming. it's a tough time. it's not the toughest time we've ever had. we've been through the depression, we've been through world war ii, but it's clearly one of the top three or four criticaltu juncture points in t history of america. what's confronting us right now is tough stuff. it's not that we can't handle it, but if we can see it, we can know about it and respond to it together, where we're all coordinating our efforts and focusing our attention. we can protect ourselves and our families. but the president is not going to lead you where you want to go. he's going to lead us off a cliff. the question is, are you going to follow him? and i would encourage people to stop following him. he's demonstrate 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coronavirus. this morning, new audio from president trump's interview with bob woodward reveals that back in april, the president was very alarmed by the virus, though he continued to mislead the american people about it. >> and bob, it's so easily transmissible, you wouldn't even believe it. >> i know, it's -- >> i mean, you can be in the room -- i was in the white house a couple of days ago, a meeting of ten people in the oval office and a guy sneezed, innocently. not a horrible -- just a sneeze. the entire room bailed out, okay, including me, by the way. >> why then did the president hold yet another indoor event last night with supporters packed together, mostly without masks, and a white house signing ceremony today is expected to also draw hundreds. cnn's alexandra field has the latest on the pandemic. alex? >> reporter: hey, there, alisyn. yes, the pictures speak volumes. president trump drawing hundreds of supporters to that indoor event in phoenix, as you point out, many in that crowd not wearing masks despite the fact that hundreds of masks were being made available to attendees. of course, there was one person at the event who was able to maintain proper social distance. that would be the president himself. ♪ god bless the usa >> reporter: while president donald trump sat at a social distance during his event, hundreds of spotters in the nearly maskless crowd did not. the president again defy iing orders, once again violating restrictions on large gatherings. >> he knew what the rules were. he chose to show a callous disregard in a reckless, selfish, irresponsible way. there's no other way to put it. >> reporter: last month, trump told journalist bob woodward he did everything possible to stop the pandemic. >> the virus is -- because it's in real people's lives, you know, all of those tens of millions of people who don't have jobs, who don't have -- >> i know. >> -- that -- listen, i mean, you and i -- >> but nothing more could have been done. nothing 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begin the first two weeks online. this change as both concern and cases of coronavirus in children continue to grow. the american academy of pediatrics reported nearly 73,000 new cases in children in just two weeks, bringing the total to nearly 550,000 confirmed cases since the start of the pandemic. >> children are not immune, despite what you've heard from some of our political leaders. we've got to be careful about children and not be cavalier and continue to track what's happening with them. >> reporter: now, on the vaccine front, eight different vaccines are currently in late-stage trials with volunteers. several of the vaccines in the u.s.'s operation warp speed have given two doses of the possible covid vaccine to volunteers in at least one clinical phase of the trial, but john, the world's largest manufacturer of vaccines is now warning that if an approved covid-19 vaccine requires two doses, we won't have enough for everyone in the world until at least 2024. >> obviously, the supply chain is such a major concern. alexandra field, thank you very much. joining us now is dr. carlos del rio. he is executive associate dean at emory university school of medicine at grady health system and is contributing to the moderna vaccine trial. dr. moderna, thank you so much forring with us. i am so struck by the picture from the president's event yesterday in arizona. and this is the now. we don't have to go back and listen to bob woodward recordings here. you can see the president, small there in the back. he's the only person in the room who is safely social distanced. everyone else is packed all over each other, largely not wearing masks. but someone, whether it was the president, the secret service, his aides, thought to distance him from other people. so it's basically saying, safety for me, but not for thee. so what does this tell you? well, john, i think that as we know from the tapes from woodward and others, the president knows, he is aware, he understands the seriousness of the situation. and he has done many things, including having done testing in the white house, you cannot go out and see him without being tested. he's protecting himself and his inner circle, but i don't think he's protecting the american people. and this is a good example of what some of our failures have been. really, the lack of a national strategy, protecting the american people and doing the right things has us where we are. we are about to reach 200,000 deaths from this pandemic in this country. this is going to be a very sad moment for many of us. i remember just a few weeks ago, when "the new york times," went we reached 100,000, they had the names of everybody, and it was pages and pages. and probably by the election, we'll be at 300,000. the reality is, we need a plan, a strategy, and leadership right now to really do the right thing. because a national epidemic cannot continue the way it is. >> dr. del rio, it's crazy! he doesn't have to do this. hold your rally outdoors! i know it hasn't been easy for the campaign to find an outdoor event, because so many officials in different states from phoenix to henderson are not allowing more than 50 people to gather. in fact, the henderson place was just fine, 3,000, because they held it indoors. you don't have to do this! it's like recklessness for recklessness' sake. the event last night was for latinos. latinos are 4.6 more times likely to be hospitalized for cyr coronavirus than white people. it's doubly hazardous and reckless. it just doesn't make any sense why they're making this decision. >> yes, alisyn, it really doesn't. and i think again what you said, and what you want to emphasize is that if you have a person get infected there, because of the exponential growth and the way this is transmitted, that one person at the end of the month has infected 400 people. and that's why this event, if very few people get infected, lead to hundreds if not thousands of cases afterwards and we saw 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fires burning in ten states, 4.6 million acres have been burned so far, according to the national interagency fire center. most of those fires are right here in california. at least 25 fires burning 2.5 million acres. we did see, yesterday, that the president came to california to see some of this damage that has happened here in the state, meeting with governor newsom, and while the president was downplaying climate change being a reason for part of this scorching that is happening here and getting worse year after year, governor newsom made it clear what he thinks is behind it. take a listen. >> the hottest august ever in the history of this state. the ferocity of these fires, the drought five-plus years, losing 163 million trees to that drought. something's happened to the plumbing of the world. and we come from a perspective, humbly, where we submit the science in and observed evidence is self-evident, that climate change is real. >> and across much of the western part of the united states, the air quality is really bad, which is because of all of these wildfires. so making the masks doubly important for people here and they're asking people to stay inside, which is obviously scary, alisyn, as many people are trying to stay distant from people while still trying to battle the coronavirus. >> the whole thing is scary, stephanie. thank you very much for reporting for us. joining us now is cnn political analyst, margaret talev. she's a politics and white house editor for axios. margaret, president trump has never believed in climate change. i mean, even donald trump, when he was running for it, didn't believe it. you know, he has these very strongly held beliefs, based on nothing, other than "fox & friends" segments. i mean, not based on, you know, reading or science, and so here it was on full display as the secretary of the natural resources agency in california tried to make his case. if we ignore that science and put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation management, we're not going to succeed together protecting californians. >> okay. it will start getting cooler. i wish -- >> you just watch. >> i wish science agreed with you. >> well, i don't think science knows, actually. >> margaret, your reaction? >> well, science knows a lot. science knows a lot and science knows that climate change is real. and i just was struck by the parallels between the president's approach to talking about the fires in some of his approach over the recent weeks and months in talking about the virus. the idea of kind of understating what science knows and then overstating some of the ambiguities like, what role does forest management have in all of this, and it kind of creates this space for an alternate story, but the alternate story isn't really on point. and climate scientists and activists for months have been watching what's been going on with the pandemic and seeing some of these parallels. the idea of the kind of contrast between what's the impact on the economy, if you take drastic measures to try to arrest the change versus what's the impact on human health? and now we're seeing both of these crisis sort of play out in realtime together. >> i think there's absolutely a through line. i think you're absolutely right that these are connected here. the president suggested we inject disinfectant to get over coronavirus into our bodies. and he's really, essentially telling us to inject disinfectant into our eyes when it comes to climate change and not to believe what we see and what we know with our brains out there. and it's interesting to watch the biden campaign react to this. i'm not sure i remember a democratic campaign acting as aggressively in a general election on the issue of climate change. i want you to listen to joe biden yesterday. >> you give a climate arsonist four more years in the white house, why would anyone be surprised if we have more america ablaze? if you give a climate denier four more years in the white house, why would anyone be surprised when more of america is underwater? >> he also tied this to the suburbs, margaret, saying that the suburbs are going to burn up. but i think you're right. it does feel like this is more than just about climate with the biden campaign at this point. >> well, john, you know, there is a political through line to this, as well. there's the science, but there's also the politics. and what is true politically, not just in the suburbs, but in the suburbs, for sure, is that there is just an absolutely growing acceptance among the american people that climate change is real and that it's a real problem. yale university and george mason are part of this consortium that's been doing polling on this consistently and we now see that three quarters of the country say, there's no question about it, climate change is real. it's true in swing states, too, and true particularly in two swing states. and they're important ones, florida and iowa. florida, obviously, huge and completely pivotal to the place, but in places with major stretches of coastline where you have hurricanes, real estate on the coast, and in a farming center like iowa, voters are extremely attuned to these issues. they drive fund-raising, they drive voter turnout, they drive young people's turnout, and they drive people who are in the business community and people with education to turn out. this is -- this is a political implication to this. but if you are living through it right now on the coast of any place or in the middle of the country that's impacted by this, you know there's also a real impact. >> margaret, it's very interesting to understand what president trump has been focused on. it's not the wildfires, it's not the 195,000 people who have been killed by coronavirus. he reveals it in some of these new audio clips, with bob woodward, what he's most focused on. and this one is from exactly a month ago. this isn't six months ago, this is basically in realtime now. here it is. >> so you think the virus totally supersedes the economy? >> oh, sure. but they're related, as you know. >> a little bit, yeah. >> little bit?! >> more than a little bit, but, the economy is doing -- look, we're close to a new stock market record. >> he keeps trying to -- even in ore clips, turn bob woodward's attention back to the economy. and bob woodward keeps trying to say, but the coronavirus is seizing the country. >> yeah. i mean, it's jarring to hear the comments. i think the president is using his outer voice to express what any politician's inner voice would be weighing which is, yes, if you're leading the nation, you have to worry about the economy as a component of public safety and civil rest and all of that. b but, you know, there's a pecking order to these considerations and clearly protecting human life must come first in each and every pecking order. this is something the president obviously has been grappling with in the tapes to help us 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we've become the nation's fastest growing retailer. because our customers love it. see for yourself, at carvana.com. the outer bands of hurricane sally already hammering the gulf coast with heavy rain at this hour. because of how slowly sally is churning, it's expected to dump rain for days. you're looking at gulf shores alabama here. it's dark, so i don't know if you can see that it's already experiencing wind and lots and lots of rain. cnn meteorologist chad myers has the latest forecast. how's it looking at this hour, chad? >> moving at 2 miles per hour, alisyn. that's the key takeaway from this update. it's an 85-mile-per-hour storm. yesterday, for a while, it was 100. so we lost a little intensity overnight. but it is lumbering to the north. this may not make landfall until about this time tomorrow morning. somewhere plus or minus 40 miles from biloxi. but it's the right side of this center that's going to see all of this rainfall. that's where it is now. it really hasn't even rained in new orleans at all. because on the right side is the wet side of this storm. and it makes it all the way, about 1:00 a.m., not that far from, let's say, the tip of the mississippi river, almost to dauphin island. and then on up towards the northeast, but very slowly. and it's that rain after rain after rain event that we're going to see down here across the gulf coast. there are spots, very dark purpose, that approach 20 inches of rain. now, you're also talking about this surge. there's already surge in pascagoula, already surge in shell beach in louisiana, even a little bit of surge in apalachicola. but because this storm isn't going to move for 24 hours, that surge will get higher and higher and higher and the winds will still blow. a lot of power lines down, trees down, because the ground will be saturated and then it's going to get windy. this is an event that we're going to not put in the record books, but there will certainly be significant problems unlike laura, which had a 15-foot surge, we don't see that, but some time between 7 and 11, but that's a big surge if your house is only 7 feet above sea level. >> it's dumping a lot of rain. thank you very much. we know you're watching it very cloerls f closely for us. we're getting our first look at russian agent russian navalny. he posted this picture on instagram from his hospital in berlin. he writes that he can hardly do anything, but he can now breathe on his own without medical support. that's good news. and navalny says he plans to return to russia after he recovers. secretary of state mike pompeo and his wife you aren't scrutiny this morning. a source tells cnn the state department internal watchdog has e-mails that show susan pompeo asking state department staffers to send out the family's christmas cards. cnn's kylie atwood live at the state department with more. so that would be wrong, kylie? >> yeah, that's right, alisyn. so what a source tells us that susan pompeo actually requested a state department staff to help send out personal family christmas cards. and now that is according to a source familiar with the e-mails who also tells me that those e-mails have been turned over to the state department inspector general as part of their grander investigation into the potential misuse of government resource by secretary of state mike pompeo and his wife, susan pompeo. now, a state department aide told tony porter, named tony porter, told congressional committees last month that she helped with that task, and she felt uncomfortable with it. now, that investigation, that interview that she provided, is part of the hill looking into firing of state department inspector general, steve linick. he was the state department watchdog when the investigation was opened into the potential misuse of government resources by the pompeos. and the issue here is that he was then fired. he was fired by president trump, but he was fired at the request of secretary of state mike pompeo. and so let's listen to how pompeo defended his wife when asked about this last night. >> the fact that they're picking on my wife, who has done yeoman's work as a volunteer, trying to make life better for every officer at the state department, i find pathetic and sad. but we'll keep doing the right thing. keep obeying the law and doing everything that's proper and we'll leave the state department a better place than we found it. >> the other thing i want to point out is that just last night, the madison dinners here at the standpoint that are hosted by pompeo and his wife, susan poempeo, that host ceos ad republican donors, they started up just last night. they have received criticism for being part of the pompeo's effort to build their political network while at the state department. alisyn? >> kylie, thank you very much for all of the reporting on this. all right, we have an update now on those two l.a. county deputies ambushed in their vehicle. we are seeing new very disturbing video from 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toward land, and that slow speed, in and of itself is a problem, because the big concern with this storm is the rain. torrential rain for days. it will just park over parts of the gulf coast and dump 10, 15, 20 inches of rain there. storm surge is also a concern. we're going to speak to the director of the national hurricane center in just a moment. also this morning, nearly 100 wildfires on the west coast burning out of control. as we speak, nearly two dozen people are missing in oregon. these fires are so enormous that some of the smoke is reaching parts of the east coast today. >> and the u.s. death toll from coronavirus is nearing 195,000 people. there's new audio out this morning and it reveals the president was well aware in april of how dangerous and deadly this virus is. >> this thing is a killer, if it gets you. if you're the wrong person, you don't have a chance. >> yes, yes, exactly. this is a monster, this is a scourge.