Transcripts For CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John B

Transcripts For CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman 20191030

Part of the continuing coverup that we have seen as it relates to the white house trying to gloss over the wrongdoing that clearly has taken place as it relates to the president s abuse of power. One of the things the white house and the president has trumpeted is they released this transcript of the call. The president called it an exact transcript. It was never not. It was never advertised on its face. It was a rough transcript. If theyre trying to keep things from the public, how much of that should be a focus of your investigation . Well, the focus will continue to be on what we know took place. The rough transcript confirms that donald trump pressured a Foreign Government to target an american citizen for political gain and thereby solicit foreign interference in the 2020 election. That right there is textbook abuse of power, particularly because at the same moment, 391 million in military and Security Assistance to the ukraine that was allocated by congress on a bipartisan basis was being withheld as part of a High Pressure tactic. That in and of itself is of grave concern. It undermines our National Security. Its a betrayal of the president s oath of office and also undermines the integrity of our elections. One of the things we have reported overnight is that some democrats who were part of the hearings yesterday were concerned that republicans were trying to out the identity of the whistleblower. Basically trying to get colonel vindman to name the person who was the whistleblower. What have you heard about that . Well, those concerns are deeply troubling. Were in the middle of a impeachment inquiry that is serious, that is somber, that is sober. And its my hope that my republican colleagues will take this moment seriously as it relates to the behavior that has occurred here that should be deeply troubling to everyone regardless of ideological aff affiliation. This is a moment where we need to put principle over party. We need to put the constitution over corruption. We need to put democracy over dereliction of duty which is exactly what many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle unfortunately are not doing. Do you want to hear from the whistleblower . Well, adam schiff has made the determination at the moment that the whistleblowers complaint, which is clearly validated by multiple witnesses and trump appointees is the center of the focus as it relates to the investigation that has proceeded to this moment. We want to be able to protect the identity of whistleblowers so that when individual patriots within our government see wrongdoing occur, they report that through the law and through the channels that have been set forth. In this particular instance, we know that trumps own Inspector General to the intelligence community, as well as the acting director of national intelligence, both confirm that the whistleblower acted in good faith, is credible, followed the law. And the allegations have been confirmed repeatedly by many of the 13 witnesses who have come before us today. There will be a vote this week. The rules committee today but tomorrow a vote in the full house about the impeachment inquiry process Going Forward. Jeff andrue is one democrat who has said hell vote no on that. Do you anticipate losing any other democratic votes on this resolution . Its not clear to me at this particular point but what is clear is the overwhelming majority of the members of the House Democratic caucus will be supportive of this next step in the impeachment inquiry. At the same time, as the caucus, we remain unified around a whole host of issues were focused on, on behalf of the american people. We want to drive down the high cost of lifesaving prescriptions, give medicare and the federal government the ability to use its bulk price purchasing power to negotiate lower drug prices on behalf of the american people. Were united around that. United around infrastructure, working to get to yes on the usmca. Well see what happens on the floor tomorrow, but i am clear that that resolution will pass. Do you or can you at this point identify any republican yes votes . Well, we dont know at this particular moment. No one has publicly indicated that they are prepared to support this next step as relates to the impeachment inquiry. But heres what is clear. So not one . Not one republican vote so far . Well, theres no republican vote affirmed in the public domain. Well see what happens. But that really is on them. I think the question that we should be asking is consistent with what the president earlier today said. He said lets focus on substance. And we know what the substance here is that he withheld 391 million in aid to ukraine. Ukraine is a friend. Russia is a foe. Ukraine is a democracy. Russia say dictatorship. Ukraine is under attack by russianbacked separatists. The United States may be the only thing standing between Vladimir Putin and ukraine being completely overrun. And in that context, the president was pressuring a Foreign Government to target american citizen. Thats an abuse of power. The president soaid focus on substance. Were going to focus on substance. Thats going to bring me to my final question here. That has to do with what is an emerging argument from some republicans who are willing to concede that they think what the president did was wrong. Im talking about, among others, senator rob portman from ohio who said yesterday and is quoted in one of the papers today, he is saying, quote it is not appropriate for a president to engage a Foreign Government in an investigation of a political opponent. He concedes your main point. Its not appropriate for the president to do it, but then he goes on to say, i dont view it as an Impeachable Offense. What do you say to that argument . Well, that is the purpose of the inquiry right now where were exploring whether a betrayal by the president of his oath of office, the undermining of our National Security interest and the elevating of the president s own personal political interest rises to the level of an abuse of power. I think the evidence of wrongdoing right now is hiding in plain sight. But as we move forward, well give this president like any president every opportunity to present exculpatory information, but, john, to date, nothing that has come forward clears this president. All it does is make the situation worse. But what senator portman and others are saying, were not clearing the president. Well concede what he did was wrong. Well even, you know, agree with every piece of evidence potentially that youre putting forward. We just dont think its impeachable. If thats what you have to overcome, what do you do . Thats a debate for the senate to have if the house acts. But were not in the place right now where the house has acted. Were still following the facts, applying the law, being guided by the constitution, and were going to present the truth to the american people. Hakeem jefferies, great to have you on this morning. Please keep us posted. Thanks, john. President trump continues to insist his call with ukraines president was perfect. So why then were some words and phrases missing according to someone who listened to that call and reportedly tried to add some of that back in. Well discuss. fake gagging noises its the easiest because its the cheesiest. Kraft. For the win win. Born to be wild. only tylenol® rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. They release medicine fast, for fast pain relief. Tylenol®. Two more state Department Officials scheduled to testify before a house impeachment investigators today as questions are raised about the white houses rough transcript of the president s july phone call. The official transcript that they put together after that call with the president of ukraine on july 25th. Joining us now, dana bash, cnn political analyst David Gregory and cnn White House Correspondent kaitlan collins. First to you on this, kaitlan. There is some discrepancy that were seeing now. The official white house reason for why there were these ellipses in the rough transcript they put throughout. Theyed ed isaid these are just. If there were words miss, they would be in brackets. Yet what we saw in the Opening Statement and heard in the testimony according to the New York Times is that Lieutenant Colonel vindman said as he was piecing this together to clean tup, he wanted words put in where those ellipses were and it didnt happen. He didnt say why it didnt happen which is going to raise questions and the white house will have to try to answer some of those on why this is a contra diction. He is someone who is not only on the phone call but in charge rev viewing this transcript. So the fact that there are these dot, dot, dots, that the white house dismissed, said they werent anything noteworthy, simply a pause in the conversation when were finding out they had several phrases or words from the president or the ukrainian president is going to raise a lot of questions. Now based on the reporting so far, these omissions do not change the fundamental understanding of this transcript. However, that raises the question even further of why they were left out of the transcript. Something that is done from software by people in the room. And the white house has in the transcript, maintained it wasnt the exact thing, even though the president has said over a dozen times, yes, this is an exact transcript. Those will be the questions Going Forward of why they left it out if this call was appropriate and what the president said was above board. Im struck by how colonel vindman walked in yesterday in full uniform and, to an extent, how he walked out after ten hours and after ten hours of having Republican Leaders vouch for his credibility to defend against what were gross attacks by some allies of the president. Listen to liz cheney, the number three in the house of representatives talk about colonel vindman. Were talking about decorated veterans who have served this nation, who have put their lives on the line. And it is shameful to question their patriotism, their love of this nation. And we should not be involved in that process. So looking forward, one might think that colonel vindman might be a witness in the public part of this testimony that we now know will be part of the rules voted on today and tomorrow. So what kind of a witness have these allies of the president now made colonel vindman and ambassador bill taylor . Theyve elevated him. They have shined a spotlight on his Tremendous Service to america and the fact that he won a purple heart while serving in a war zone in iraq on behalf of america. So what they were doing on another network, where the hosts dont call out people for the crazy that they say, that they probably find somewhere on the web that we dont surf, that has done a disservice to the president because theres no question that having liz cheney come to his defense, having other Senior Republicans come to his defense, including Mitch Mcconnell who that was all he would say yesterday when he was asked about this. He didnt go into any other detail. Its a big deal, and its a reminder of how messed up the republican defense is. The president again this morning saying, oh, im so happy that my fellow republicans are focusing on the substance, not the process. But theyre not. They are still focusing on the process which did win them a vote tomorrow in the house because despite democrats saying it wasnt because of republican attacks, theres no question that that played into it. But big picture, it is a reminder to republicans to be a little more cautious. A lot more cautious in how they just kind of willy nilly make up their defense as they go daytoday. In terms of the house vote that we will see tomorrow, john just asked Hakeem Jeffries, what about gop support . Who is behind this . He was noncommittal on the answer. How important will that be in terms of messaging when we see how much support there is or is not for this resolution . Obviously, theyre going to take it and the democrats want to call out republicans who say we just have to make this legitimate with a vote and theyll call them out if theres no support for what theyre doing at all saying that they met that standard. Republicans will say this is simply an aboutface and still a sham process. That will all play out the way it has been. I think whats interesting about where we are this morning is that you have two things happening. You have this initial whistleblower. Now you have all the supporting detail that is creating this damning portrait for the president and for the white house on ukraine. And all of these details are being filled in. Now were to the point of ellipses and missing portions of the transcript that may be explosive. At the same time, you have a white house that was at a starting point of, yeah, we did it. And we did it because we thought it was okay. Whats wrong with it . And working backward from that with the details being filled in, thats where their biggest problems lie. The fact that they are lying, theyre changing their story, theyre smearing veterans. Its such a bad look for the white house, but at the end of the day, the president , as confused as their strategy is, is counting on republicans, even liz cheney who would not ultimately have a vote as a member of the house. Even if liz cheney, who i think was appropriate to step forward yesterday, condemns some of the tactics, are not moving on the big piece, on the war, which is, would you vote to impeach him or not. Its interesting. Thats why i brought up rob portman with Hakeem Jeffries because rob portman is hes not seen as the most fire brand senator by any means. He listens and he considers his actions. He says he doesnt like what the president did. He said his actions were bad. He condemns the president s actions but then goes on to say, but not impeachable. So it doesnt seem like there are any or very few movable votes there. Well, and i think youre going to see republicans, if it gets worse, look for a different off ramp. Do they censure the president or do they say, as ive mentioned here before, if were into an Election Year trial where you have numerous senators who are running for president who are part of that trial, do republicans, even if theyre critical of the president say, you know what . I think this was inappropriate. It was bad policy. But were in an Election Year, and the voters should decide this question. And can i just add one thing . And that is that as much of the focus is on what the numbers will be for this vote tomorrow, we learned a lot on the substance of how the House Democrats are going to conduct these public hearings, how theyre going to conduct the articles of impeachment and how the Judiciary Committee moves through that. And the fact is that the democrats have kind of laid the groundwork for understanding how important it is to make that case and not do it in the way we usually watch house hearings, which is, a lot of us are on set wanting to bang our heads against the wall because its a member of Congress Speaking for five minutes, five minutes, sometimes speechifying and not even asking questions. Thats all gone now and the chairman is going to have 45 minutes. He can defer to staff, which oftentimes asks more direct, more blunt questions, and same with republican leader. And so the fact is that theyre already thinking ahead about that, and its all about trying as hard as they can to get public support behind this. And thats why what dana says is so interesting because this morning the president is telling republicans, urging them, dont focus on the process here which has been their main defense. Hes saying instead, defend me on the merits. Defend my actions on the call, and that is something republicans have been hesitant to do, including the Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell himself who yesterday, as our colleague ted barrett brilliantly pointed out, was asked directly about this. Had a chance to defend the president on the merits here and instead he shifted. Answered a question he wasnt asked about those people who were questioning the patriotism of alex vindman and it really goes to show exactly the bind that youre seeing some republicans feel that theyre in, in this situation. John bolton, is he going to talk . Lets take a vote. Raise your hand if you think john bolton will ever testify before the house committees . Oh, gosh. I think he will. I think he will. Yeah. I think to me, hes just being very quiet, and hes going to pick his moment, and its going to be, you know, revenge testimony. Kaitlan, break the tie. I cant. I truly dont know. Ive learned a long time ago not to predict. Theres no tie. I agree with david. There will be no interference. No matter what. Go nats, game seven. David, kaitlan, dana. Im glad we finished with the important thing today. Theres a big game. In washington oh, totally. Everything else thats going on, the only important thing is game seven of the world series. Ive fully jumped on board as has my fourth grader. How does a fellow iraq war vet feel about President Trumps allies attacking the patriotism of a purple heart recipient. Youll ask kongmcongressman set bolton, next. Theres the ampedup, overtuned, feedingfrenzyof sheetmetalkind. And then theres performance that just leaves you feeling better as a result. Thats the kind lincolns about. A lot will happen in your life. Wrinkles just wont. Neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repairs dermproven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin. Neutrogena® ever since you brought me home, that day. Ive been plotting to destroy you. Sizing you up. Calculating your every move. You think this is love . This is a billion years of tiger dna just ready to pounce. And if you have the wrong Foreign Government<\/a> to target an american citizen for political gain and thereby solicit foreign interference in the 2020 election. That right there is textbook abuse of power, particularly because at the same moment, 391 million in military and Security Assistance<\/a> to the ukraine that was allocated by congress on a bipartisan basis was being withheld as part of a High Pressure<\/a> tactic. That in and of itself is of grave concern. It undermines our National Security<\/a>. Its a betrayal of the president s oath of office and also undermines the integrity of our elections. One of the things we have reported overnight is that some democrats who were part of the hearings yesterday were concerned that republicans were trying to out the identity of the whistleblower. Basically trying to get colonel vindman to name the person who was the whistleblower. What have you heard about that . Well, those concerns are deeply troubling. Were in the middle of a impeachment inquiry that is serious, that is somber, that is sober. And its my hope that my republican colleagues will take this moment seriously as it relates to the behavior that has occurred here that should be deeply troubling to everyone regardless of ideological aff affiliation. This is a moment where we need to put principle over party. We need to put the constitution over corruption. We need to put democracy over dereliction of duty which is exactly what many of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle unfortunately are not doing. Do you want to hear from the whistleblower . Well, adam schiff has made the determination at the moment that the whistleblowers complaint, which is clearly validated by multiple witnesses and trump appointees is the center of the focus as it relates to the investigation that has proceeded to this moment. We want to be able to protect the identity of whistleblowers so that when individual patriots within our government see wrongdoing occur, they report that through the law and through the channels that have been set forth. In this particular instance, we know that trumps own Inspector General<\/a> to the intelligence community, as well as the acting director of national intelligence, both confirm that the whistleblower acted in good faith, is credible, followed the law. And the allegations have been confirmed repeatedly by many of the 13 witnesses who have come before us today. There will be a vote this week. The rules committee today but tomorrow a vote in the full house about the impeachment inquiry process Going Forward<\/a>. Jeff andrue is one democrat who has said hell vote no on that. Do you anticipate losing any other democratic votes on this resolution . Its not clear to me at this particular point but what is clear is the overwhelming majority of the members of the House Democratic<\/a> caucus will be supportive of this next step in the impeachment inquiry. At the same time, as the caucus, we remain unified around a whole host of issues were focused on, on behalf of the american people. We want to drive down the high cost of lifesaving prescriptions, give medicare and the federal government the ability to use its bulk price purchasing power to negotiate lower drug prices on behalf of the american people. Were united around that. United around infrastructure, working to get to yes on the usmca. Well see what happens on the floor tomorrow, but i am clear that that resolution will pass. Do you or can you at this point identify any republican yes votes . Well, we dont know at this particular moment. No one has publicly indicated that they are prepared to support this next step as relates to the impeachment inquiry. But heres what is clear. So not one . Not one republican vote so far . Well, theres no republican vote affirmed in the public domain. Well see what happens. But that really is on them. I think the question that we should be asking is consistent with what the president earlier today said. He said lets focus on substance. And we know what the substance here is that he withheld 391 million in aid to ukraine. Ukraine is a friend. Russia is a foe. Ukraine is a democracy. Russia say dictatorship. Ukraine is under attack by russianbacked separatists. The United States<\/a> may be the only thing standing between Vladimir Putin<\/a> and ukraine being completely overrun. And in that context, the president was pressuring a Foreign Government<\/a> to target american citizen. Thats an abuse of power. The president soaid focus on substance. Were going to focus on substance. Thats going to bring me to my final question here. That has to do with what is an emerging argument from some republicans who are willing to concede that they think what the president did was wrong. Im talking about, among others, senator rob portman from ohio who said yesterday and is quoted in one of the papers today, he is saying, quote it is not appropriate for a president to engage a Foreign Government<\/a> in an investigation of a political opponent. He concedes your main point. Its not appropriate for the president to do it, but then he goes on to say, i dont view it as an Impeachable Offense<\/a>. What do you say to that argument . Well, that is the purpose of the inquiry right now where were exploring whether a betrayal by the president of his oath of office, the undermining of our National Security<\/a> interest and the elevating of the president s own personal political interest rises to the level of an abuse of power. I think the evidence of wrongdoing right now is hiding in plain sight. But as we move forward, well give this president like any president every opportunity to present exculpatory information, but, john, to date, nothing that has come forward clears this president. All it does is make the situation worse. But what senator portman and others are saying, were not clearing the president. Well concede what he did was wrong. Well even, you know, agree with every piece of evidence potentially that youre putting forward. We just dont think its impeachable. If thats what you have to overcome, what do you do . Thats a debate for the senate to have if the house acts. But were not in the place right now where the house has acted. Were still following the facts, applying the law, being guided by the constitution, and were going to present the truth to the american people. Hakeem jefferies, great to have you on this morning. Please keep us posted. Thanks, john. President trump continues to insist his call with ukraines president was perfect. So why then were some words and phrases missing according to someone who listened to that call and reportedly tried to add some of that back in. Well discuss. fake gagging noises its the easiest because its the cheesiest. Kraft. For the win win. Born to be wild. only tylenol\u00ae rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. They release medicine fast, for fast pain relief. Tylenol\u00ae. Two more state Department Officials<\/a> scheduled to testify before a house impeachment investigators today as questions are raised about the white houses rough transcript of the president s july phone call. The official transcript that they put together after that call with the president of ukraine on july 25th. Joining us now, dana bash, cnn political analyst David Gregory<\/a> and cnn White House Correspondent<\/a> kaitlan collins. First to you on this, kaitlan. There is some discrepancy that were seeing now. The official white house reason for why there were these ellipses in the rough transcript they put throughout. Theyed ed isaid these are just. If there were words miss, they would be in brackets. Yet what we saw in the Opening Statement<\/a> and heard in the testimony according to the New York Times<\/a> is that Lieutenant Colonel<\/a> vindman said as he was piecing this together to clean tup, he wanted words put in where those ellipses were and it didnt happen. He didnt say why it didnt happen which is going to raise questions and the white house will have to try to answer some of those on why this is a contra diction. He is someone who is not only on the phone call but in charge rev viewing this transcript. So the fact that there are these dot, dot, dots, that the white house dismissed, said they werent anything noteworthy, simply a pause in the conversation when were finding out they had several phrases or words from the president or the ukrainian president is going to raise a lot of questions. Now based on the reporting so far, these omissions do not change the fundamental understanding of this transcript. However, that raises the question even further of why they were left out of the transcript. Something that is done from software by people in the room. And the white house has in the transcript, maintained it wasnt the exact thing, even though the president has said over a dozen times, yes, this is an exact transcript. Those will be the questions Going Forward<\/a> of why they left it out if this call was appropriate and what the president said was above board. Im struck by how colonel vindman walked in yesterday in full uniform and, to an extent, how he walked out after ten hours and after ten hours of having Republican Leaders<\/a> vouch for his credibility to defend against what were gross attacks by some allies of the president. Listen to liz cheney, the number three in the house of representatives talk about colonel vindman. Were talking about decorated veterans who have served this nation, who have put their lives on the line. And it is shameful to question their patriotism, their love of this nation. And we should not be involved in that process. So looking forward, one might think that colonel vindman might be a witness in the public part of this testimony that we now know will be part of the rules voted on today and tomorrow. So what kind of a witness have these allies of the president now made colonel vindman and ambassador bill taylor . Theyve elevated him. They have shined a spotlight on his Tremendous Service<\/a> to america and the fact that he won a purple heart while serving in a war zone in iraq on behalf of america. So what they were doing on another network, where the hosts dont call out people for the crazy that they say, that they probably find somewhere on the web that we dont surf, that has done a disservice to the president because theres no question that having liz cheney come to his defense, having other Senior Republicans<\/a> come to his defense, including Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> who that was all he would say yesterday when he was asked about this. He didnt go into any other detail. Its a big deal, and its a reminder of how messed up the republican defense is. The president again this morning saying, oh, im so happy that my fellow republicans are focusing on the substance, not the process. But theyre not. They are still focusing on the process which did win them a vote tomorrow in the house because despite democrats saying it wasnt because of republican attacks, theres no question that that played into it. But big picture, it is a reminder to republicans to be a little more cautious. A lot more cautious in how they just kind of willy nilly make up their defense as they go daytoday. In terms of the house vote that we will see tomorrow, john just asked Hakeem Jeffries<\/a>, what about gop support . Who is behind this . He was noncommittal on the answer. How important will that be in terms of messaging when we see how much support there is or is not for this resolution . Obviously, theyre going to take it and the democrats want to call out republicans who say we just have to make this legitimate with a vote and theyll call them out if theres no support for what theyre doing at all saying that they met that standard. Republicans will say this is simply an aboutface and still a sham process. That will all play out the way it has been. I think whats interesting about where we are this morning is that you have two things happening. You have this initial whistleblower. Now you have all the supporting detail that is creating this damning portrait for the president and for the white house on ukraine. And all of these details are being filled in. Now were to the point of ellipses and missing portions of the transcript that may be explosive. At the same time, you have a white house that was at a starting point of, yeah, we did it. And we did it because we thought it was okay. Whats wrong with it . And working backward from that with the details being filled in, thats where their biggest problems lie. The fact that they are lying, theyre changing their story, theyre smearing veterans. Its such a bad look for the white house, but at the end of the day, the president , as confused as their strategy is, is counting on republicans, even liz cheney who would not ultimately have a vote as a member of the house. Even if liz cheney, who i think was appropriate to step forward yesterday, condemns some of the tactics, are not moving on the big piece, on the war, which is, would you vote to impeach him or not. Its interesting. Thats why i brought up rob portman with Hakeem Jeffries<\/a> because rob portman is hes not seen as the most fire brand senator by any means. He listens and he considers his actions. He says he doesnt like what the president did. He said his actions were bad. He condemns the president s actions but then goes on to say, but not impeachable. So it doesnt seem like there are any or very few movable votes there. Well, and i think youre going to see republicans, if it gets worse, look for a different off ramp. Do they censure the president or do they say, as ive mentioned here before, if were into an Election Year<\/a> trial where you have numerous senators who are running for president who are part of that trial, do republicans, even if theyre critical of the president say, you know what . I think this was inappropriate. It was bad policy. But were in an Election Year<\/a>, and the voters should decide this question. And can i just add one thing . And that is that as much of the focus is on what the numbers will be for this vote tomorrow, we learned a lot on the substance of how the House Democrats<\/a> are going to conduct these public hearings, how theyre going to conduct the articles of impeachment and how the Judiciary Committee<\/a> moves through that. And the fact is that the democrats have kind of laid the groundwork for understanding how important it is to make that case and not do it in the way we usually watch house hearings, which is, a lot of us are on set wanting to bang our heads against the wall because its a member of Congress Speaking<\/a> for five minutes, five minutes, sometimes speechifying and not even asking questions. Thats all gone now and the chairman is going to have 45 minutes. He can defer to staff, which oftentimes asks more direct, more blunt questions, and same with republican leader. And so the fact is that theyre already thinking ahead about that, and its all about trying as hard as they can to get public support behind this. And thats why what dana says is so interesting because this morning the president is telling republicans, urging them, dont focus on the process here which has been their main defense. Hes saying instead, defend me on the merits. Defend my actions on the call, and that is something republicans have been hesitant to do, including the Senate Majority<\/a> leader Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> himself who yesterday, as our colleague ted barrett brilliantly pointed out, was asked directly about this. Had a chance to defend the president on the merits here and instead he shifted. Answered a question he wasnt asked about those people who were questioning the patriotism of alex vindman and it really goes to show exactly the bind that youre seeing some republicans feel that theyre in, in this situation. John bolton, is he going to talk . Lets take a vote. Raise your hand if you think john bolton will ever testify before the house committees . Oh, gosh. I think he will. I think he will. Yeah. I think to me, hes just being very quiet, and hes going to pick his moment, and its going to be, you know, revenge testimony. Kaitlan, break the tie. I cant. I truly dont know. Ive learned a long time ago not to predict. Theres no tie. I agree with david. There will be no interference. No matter what. Go nats, game seven. David, kaitlan, dana. Im glad we finished with the important thing today. Theres a big game. In washington oh, totally. Everything else thats going on, the only important thing is game seven of the world series. Ive fully jumped on board as has my fourth grader. How does a fellow iraq war vet feel about President Trump<\/a>s allies attacking the patriotism of a purple heart recipient. Youll ask kongmcongressman set bolton, next. Theres the ampedup, overtuned, feedingfrenzyof sheetmetalkind. And then theres performance that just leaves you feeling better as a result. Thats the kind lincolns about. A lot will happen in your life. Wrinkles just wont. Neutrogena\u00ae rapid wrinkle repairs dermproven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin. Neutrogena\u00ae ever since you brought me home, that day. Ive been plotting to destroy you. Sizing you up. 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National security official who is advising ukraine while working inside the white house apparently against the president s interest and usually they spoke in english. Some people might call that espionage. We also know he was born in the soviet union. Emigrated with his family, young. He tends to feel sim pat co with the ukraine. He has an affinity probably for his homeland. Joining us, seth moulton. He is also an iraq war veteran. Good to have you back. We heard a lot of the negative. There has been pushback, noticeably from liz cheney. Im going to play that sound. Were talking about decorated veterans who have served this nation who have put their lives on the line. And it is shameful to question their patriotism, their love of this nation, and we should not be involved in that process. We should point out senators roy blunt and john thune also pushing back on this. Basically saying absolutely not. No reason to criticize this guy. I mean, just talk to us as a veteran at this point. When you hear these kinds of attacks, and when you hear the subsequent pushback, what is your thinking . First of all, its a rare moment when seth moulton agrees with liz cheney, but shes absolutely right on this. You know, when i served in iraq, it was the officers who actually had the courage to speak truth to power, to step out of line when their bosses told them to do something wrong. They were the most patriotic americans i served with because thats what takes courage. To speak truth to power, to stand up for the constitution when your boss, this case, the president of the United States<\/a>, is telling you to do something different. Theres been a lot made of just the image that we saw yesterday. Of Lieutenant Colonel<\/a> vindman arriving in his uniform and he was essentially reporting for duty. But just talk to us about what it means for this man to come in and to testify, essentially against the commander in chief. And in his testimony from what we learned in the reporting from the New York Times<\/a>, to contradict the white house. Its a big deal because, you know, as a military officer, you respect the chain of command. But you always remember that your oath, the oath that you take is to the constitution of the United States<\/a>. Not to your commander. Not to your boss. Not to the commander in chief. And thats something that we all know. Its the same oath i took as a member of congress. Same oath i took as the United States<\/a> marine. And that is exactly what im sure was on this colonels mind. As were moving forward, i know you were early on calling for an impeachment investigation. This house vote, of course, it is scheduled for tomorrow. If there is not a fair amount of republican support for that, are you concerned about what that does as you move forward with these proceedings and how that could impact Public Opinion<\/a> even . No, im not concerned about for the process or for the constitution. Were on the right side when were on the side of the constitution. I would be concerned about the future of the Republican Party<\/a> because if americans see that in the face of damning evidence against the president that shows that he is acting in his personal interest as commander in chief doing things that are completely against his oath of office that republicans in congress do not have the courage to stand up for whats right, to stand up for the constitution that they swore an oath to protect and defend. That doesnt bode well for their future. And when they have to explain this vote to their grandchildren some day, i dont think theyll have a good time. Some of what were hearing and were hearing from senator rob portman of ohio standing up and saying i dont agree with what the president did here. The conduct, not what i would like to see. However it is not an Impeachable Offense<\/a>. I mean, i dont think that explanation is going to look good in the light of history. If this is not impeachable, i dont know what is. Does he defend the impeachment of clinton for having an affair . This is the United States<\/a> leveraging military aid to an ally that is under daily attack from russia, which is a common enemy of ours and ukraine. And the fact hed withhold that aid for his own political benefit put lives in danger. There are ukrainians who probably who are at risk of dying because theyre not getting american aid. There are americans who are there as diplomats, as advisers who are supporting that mission, whose lives are at risk. What the president has done is unconscionable. And i cant its hard to imagine something worse, frankly. This certainly rises above what nixon did and certainly what clinton did. So the idea that this is not an um pea Impeachable Offense<\/a> is crazy. We have to get more of the facts out there in front of the american people, and thats exactly what were doing as this inquiry progresses. As youre moving toward public hearings. Chuck schumer was noting that the government is funded through november 21st. But saying now hes concerned that the president would shut down the government to impede impeachment. Do you agree with that . Look, the president s willing to do just about anything here. You think about the fundamental facts of this case and the president has set up a channel, a diplomatic channel through Rudy Giuliani<\/a> to the only reason he would do that is because the regular diplomatic channel which he controls as the commander in chief is something he couldnt use because he wanted to do something wrong. So the point is that if the president of the United States<\/a> is willing to go to the lengths of setting up this parallel diplomatic channel through Rudy Giuliani<\/a> to do illegal things, then, sure, hes willing to shut down the government if that impedes the investigation. I think this president is incredibly dangerous because of the ways that he is willing to put americans and our National Security<\/a> in danger for his personal, political benefit. And so doesnt surprise me at all that senator schumer thinks he might shut down the government to protect himself as well. Really quickly, just yes or no, is the house planning for that . Any discussion . Were planning for any and all possibilities but were obviously doing anything we can to keep the government open. Seth moulton, appreciate you joining us. Thanks, erica. Its time for cnn business now. We have breaking news for you. The Commerce Department<\/a> just released its Third Quarter<\/a> gdp report. And the news is slowing down. Cnn chief Business Correspondent<\/a> krus te Christine Romans<\/a> is here. How is whats been a Strong Economy<\/a> absorbing the hits . The boeing issue with the 737 max. Manufacturing slowdown. Gm strike. The drag of a trade war. How is the u. S. Economy handling it . With Economic Growth<\/a> of 1. 9 over the summer, below 2 , below the first quarter, and you can see that trend there from 3. 1 down to 2 to 1. 9 . That shows a tapering of u. S. Economic growth. And when you really kind of look at the numbers here, you can see how difficult it has been to stick above 3 . And, in fact, so many of these quarters are now starting to look like those quarters in the Obama Administration<\/a> that President Trump<\/a> won the election by saying werent good enough. Wasnt a good enough economy. So what is happening here overall . I told you about all the hits the economy is taking. Why isnt why isnt this economy living up to that 3 target consistently that the white house has said it would . Heres the president s trade adviser peter navarro. Wheres his 5 , 6 , gdp . Eill tell you what. I know where 1 of that is and thats jay powell and the federal reserve. You think so . Absolutely. No question. Jay powell and the federal reserve, youve heard that from the president and from his allies in the white house, his trade advisers. They think the fed is the problem here not all the other things i mentioned. They want the fed to keep cutting rates. The president has advocated for negative rates which shows an economy in distress, not the best economy in American History<\/a> as the president has said. The fed meets this afternoon. Were expecting another 25 basis point rate cut as the fed is trying to stabilize or cushion the economy from the effects of the trade war and the global slowdown. Christine romans, very, very interesting. The most interesting thing youed so, these numbers look a lot like the obama economy. Except for the trade war. Christine romans, thank you. You already knew the witnesses testifying in the impeachment inquiry had stellar credentials. But you never knew just how stellar. As for the people questioning their patriotism, john avlon compares resumes in an eyeopening reality check, next. Orlando isnt just the theme park capital of the world, it also has the highest growth in manufacturing jobs in the us. Its a competition for the talent. Employees need more than just a paycheck. You definitely want to take advantage of all the benefits you can get. 2 3 of employees said that the workplace is an important source for personal savings and protection solutions. The workplace should be a source of financial security. Keeping your people happy is what keeps your people. Thats Financial Wellness<\/a>. Put your employees on a path to Financial Wellness<\/a> with prudential. 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That kid grew up to become a highly decorated soldier and diplomat. And that pile of ribbons on his chest is the purple heart he received in iraq. Hes the first member of trumps own west wing to testify before the impeachment inquiry. And he did so with the ukraine expert. His Opening Statement<\/a> loaded with references to his honor and duty. And he felt duty bound to flag trump and the deputys dealings. Hes not the first to come under fire from the right. Heres top u. S. Diplomat in ukraine bill taylor. Hes not in uniform, but he doesnt need to be. Hes got a career of serving with distinction. Near the top of his class at west point on his way to tours of duty in vietnam, earning the bronze star and air medal. He was nominated by george w. Bush, and his testimony which he recounted his horror at learning how attached ukrainian aid was to investigating the bidens left lawmakers stunned. One of his vietnam war buddies told jake tapper he was enraged listening to the president and white house staff lie and launch personal attacks on taylor. The former ambassador to afghanistan, Lieutenant Colonel<\/a> ikenberry said his courage is true patriotism never to be intimidated by those seeking personal gain. President trump has a history of going after military vets who question him like john mccain. Gold star families like the khans. Heres what sean duffy was doing in his mid20s. Appearing on mtvs the real world season six. These slurs and lies and innuendo against nonpartisan people of honor have an echo in an incident featuring Donald Trumps<\/a> onetime lawyer roy cohn. He served as general counsel to joe mccarthy. The worst demagogue wed steen that point. Cohn and mccarthy tried to question the loyalty of an army lawyer and ran straight into the conscience of the country. Let us not assassinate this lad further. Youve done enough. 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For 13 years, cnn heroes has highlighted everyday people changing the world. We share Inspiring Stories<\/a> with you all year long so now here, to announce the top ten cnn heroes of the year, Anderson Cooper<\/a> who is cohost of cnn heroes an allstar tribute which airs sunday, december 7th at 8 00 p. M. I cant believe its been 13 years. This is the time well announce the top ten cnn heroes. And then after we announce them, its up to you to decide who gets to be cnn hero of the year. Take a look at the top ten cnn heros for 2019. From las vegas, nevada, Stacey Alonso<\/a> is keeping women and their furry loved ones together at her inclusive Domestic Violence<\/a> shelters. Fezzy is delivering hope in detroit by giving basic necessities to women and their children. From denver, colorado, after seeing families lose their homes to californias worst wildfire, woody faircloth is providing refurbished rvs to displaced survivors. In ethiopia, winnie is changing the lives of women and girls. Shes battling the stigma around menstruation with her innovative work. Mark meyers from san angelo, texas is saving the often overlooked animals by the thousands. From dallas, texas, Richard Miles<\/a> served 15 years in prison for a crime he did not commit. Today hes helping other former inmates navigate the challenges of returning home. In espaniola, new mexico, an area devastated by the opioid crisis, montoya is giving people hope and healing through the arts. Gary robinson from mountainside, new jersey, is helping families who are grieving cope with the loss of their loved ones. From india, afro shaw has inspired the largest beach cleanup and sparked a volunteer movement to save the ocean. And from ann arbor, michigan, zach has turned gaming into therapy for sick kids in hospitals. Theyre all so awesome. And thats the point. It really is the point here because these are all heroes and they all win something. And all well announce on the 8th is the hero of the year. They all win 10,000 to continue their work. They also get training from the Annenberg Center<\/a> to organizational training. A lot of these people just saw a need in their community and didnt have a lot of resources but they just started doing something. And so we helped them kind of grow their organization. But then its up to our viewers to vote for the cnn hero of the year. And that person gets an additional 100,000. I dont know how we even narrowed it down to these ten winners. Whats cool, it all comes from viewers. You know, everybody out there can nominate whoever they want for hero of the year. Thats good. Outsource it. Thats the best way to do it. Its too hard to decide otherwise. How does the hero of the year voting process work . You can vote numerous times a day. Go to cnnheroes. Com and it sort of explains how you go through the voting. You can vote on your tablet, your desktop, you can vote up to ten times a day. And you can vote from pretty much any device. And i just cant get over the range of the subject matter that they covered here. Really, its all over the world, and its so many different things. Yeah. And you never know who is going to win. Thats the cool thing about it. Just the publicity that they get, not only in the u. S. But in their home countries as well, even if they dont become the hero of the year, you know, they they are able to grow their organization in a big way. Thats such an inspiring night. To be there live while its all happening. Were always dryincrying. I always feel like, what have i done . What have you done . You remind me of that every day. Thankfully kelly ripa is there with you to carry it the whole time. Im very happy shell be there again. Were looking forward to it. Thank you for previewing it with us. The online voting begins when . Today. Go to cnnheroes. Com. Thank you, anderson. The good stuff is next. Performance comes in lots of flavors. 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Because its the good stuff. I wanted to come back. Its like magic. Its the magic stuff. Its the magic of television. How about that . Time for the good stuff. A connecticut gamer is being called a hero for saving the life of a fellow gamer hes never actually met. He said he was playing online when a 13yearold boy he was playing with online told him he wanted to take his own life. Couldnt even talk. He was crying so much, and he typed it and he said tonight is going to be the night or tonight might be the night. Riley stayed on the line for almost two hours. He finally convinced the other boy to call a suicide hotline. Earlier this week, the school board honored riley for his actions. He and the other teen now have a real friendship outside of gaming and they speak several times a week. You know, they always do say you need to say something, you need to speak up. And this is exactly one of those types of situations. And you never know who will receive it. Sometimes its your best friend. Sometimes its a teacher. Sometimes its an acquaintance who knows just from where hes normally seeing you that something is off. Right. Thats a great it really is a great story and such an important reminder. Fantastic. Great to have you here today. Always a pleasure. Come back. Appear magically any time. Perhaps i will. A very big day. Two state Department Officials<\/a> heading to capitol hill to testify in the impeachment inquiry. Cnn has it all covered for you. Newsroom with jim sciutto and poppy harlow starts right now. All right. Good morning, everyone. Im poppy harlow. Im jim sciutto. Theres an impeachment inquiry under way. Today, two more witnesses expected to give two more accounts backing some of the alarming testimony weve heard so far in this investigation. The first, kathryn croft, a special adviser for ukraine. She just arrived on capitol hill. She will describe a meeting in which staffers were told that ukraine aid was put on hold at the direction of President Trump<\/a>. The second witness, christopher anderson, a Career Foreign Service<\/a> officer. Hes expected to tell lawmakers about a warning from exNational Security<\/a> adviser john bolton that Rudy Giuliani<\/a>, the president s personal lawyer, was leading a shadow Foreign Policy<\/a> operation towards ukraine. 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