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single day. researchers from the university of washington suggest the deaths will continue to rise unless more americans start wearing a face covering. >> at least 30 states have paused or rolled back their reopening plans. dr. anthony fauci says while it's hard to predict how much longer the crisis is going to last he's cautiously optistmist there's going to be a vaccine by the end of the year. a few testing sites have closed in florida as a hurricane is headed that way. we know, as we see on the screen, the category one storm headed up potentially the east coast of florida and we see the impact on other states of the eastern sea board. more on the projections from the cdc. let's go to polo sandoval. good morning, to you, polo. >> reporter: good morning to you. one of the big areas of the focus is across the river in the state of new jersey. they experienced almost 2,000 brand new covid cases over a four-day period this week. that is deeply concerning for local officials. governor phil murphy saying the infections is setting the state back to a level they haven't seen in months and he warned residents if he doesn't see an improvement you could see a roll back in openings. the coronavirus may kill another 20,000 americans by late august according to a new forecast by the cdc. the cdc projections warn of an increase in reported deaths in puerto rico, washington state, kentucky, alabama, tennessee and new jersey. the governor there says house parties are contributing to the covid spread among young people. >> we are not past this. everyone who walks around refusing to wear a masks or who hosts a house party or who stuffs a boat is contributing to these increases. >> reporter: the white house task force said coronavirus is slowing in california, arizona and texas. florida is on the list but it may face problems with the coming hurricane. there's a possibility some residents in the path may have to turn to shelters. >> the storm just exacerbates the conditions. it forces people to remain in close quarters. this is where we need to get that message out that people need to make sure that those protocols are not sacrificed, they understand how important it is to wear face masks. >> reporter: this week texas became the next to surpass new york in the case numbers. a funeral director says his facility is overwhelmed. they're turning to additional storage to the influx of bodies and worried surviving family members may lead to the spread of the virus. >> they come in to give their con condolences and that's where the spread is. you get all sorts of people at the same time and that's what makes it vulnerable to having the disease spread amongst the living. >> reporter: with many years nearing reopening a new cdc study offers insight on what could happen if kids are assembled. they looked at a georgia camp with higher inif he can rates. >> as the study shows when you have large groups of people, and children especially because you can't expect children to strictly adhere to some of the safety precautions, there is a high risk of transmission. >> students back in the classroom in indiana's hancock county where the local health department confirmed on the first day of school a middle schooler tested positive for the virus. the student was immediately isolated officials told parents. yesterday one of the teams forecasting this pandemic said there are still not enough americans wearing the masks. predicting we could see up to 230,000 deaths by november. a number that could drop below 200, if more americans wear the masks. >> a very simple thing to do. polo sandoval, thank you so much. dr. sanjay matthews is with us now, he's a public health physician in atlanta. good to see you. >> hi. >> i wanted to ask you about what polo was talking about, the numbers from the camp in georgia. what do you extract from what we know from what happened at the camp and how do you use that to craft reopenings? >> that's a good question. if you look at the camp, it's a ymca camp here in georgia, i live in georgia as well. they found out a counselor was sick and he was sent home. the kids were tested and a good 51% of kids between 6 and 10 years of age tested positive for covid. what's interesting is the counselors, the people at the -- the adults and the counselors wore masks but the kids did not. it shows a couple things. the first thing is how contagious and how easily kids can spread the virus amongst themselves. the study in south korea we know kids above 10 years of age can transmit the virus as easily as adults. i take home, number one, we need to treat kids as we treat adults. they can transmit the virus to themselves and adults as well. and that means we need to be cautious about opening schools and making sure the community transmission rate is low before we consider that. >> i was gone for three weeks because my husband had covid. in this time he and i had a lot of conversations. he tested positive twice before he finally tested negative. there's something that stood out to us. i want to read you something from the cdc when it comes to testing. the number of positive tests in a state is not equal to the number of cases as one person may be tested more than once. we actually talked to a doctor when he was ill -- when my husband was ill. the doctor said he has a patient who has been testing positive for eight weeks, even though at this point now he's asymptomatic. are you surprised five to six months into this pandemic we don't have a better way to distinguish new cases from positive retests? and how important is it to make that distinction? >> it's going to be very important, christi, that we have an understanding, number one, when you get covid-19 at what point are you not considered to be infectious? and if you keep testing positive two or three months later, what exactly does that mean? i have quite a few patients at work that are having the same problem. i saw a young patient, a 27-year-old female, asymptomatic, three months later she's still positive. what some studies are suggesting is that perhaps some people are slow viral shredders they keep shredding the virus but they're not necessarily infectious. this is a new virus we're learning so much on a daily basis but that distinction is key in terms of opening up and knowing who is safe to go to work and school. >> there are some people who may still be testing positive but may not be infectious at that time? >> that's correct. a simple example would be the following. with the number of people in the u.s. that are testing positive and a lot of people that have symptoms, you can imagine if everybody was getting reinfected, the number of cases would be much higher. so typically, when a patient recovers from the virus and they have no symptoms, if they keep testing positive a month or two later what we're hoping is they're not infectious but just shedding the virus at a slow rate. >> i wanted to ask you about a report about hand sanitizers and warning in that regard because we're depending on them so much right now. there is a report tested by the fda and the sanitizers and they found that those that contain methanol can be quite dangerous to us. what do we need to be watching for? >> the bottom line here is to make sure that you go with -- you know, a lot of the sanitizers are generally safe. it's the way you use them. earlier we covered the story about how people might be using it on the face and ingesting it. the bottom line is you need to use sanitizers for the way they're designed to be used which is to really wash your hands and disinfect surfaces. as long as you do that you should be generally safe using the sanitizers. >> dr. fauci said he's optimistic there's a vaccine by the end of the year. do you share that optimism? >> i do. i think we have good vaccines in phase three. 30,000 people, first shot already given in savannah, patients are showing they're producing the antibodies in good levels. i'm optimistic we'll have one vaccine, if not perhaps two. >> dr. matthew, appreciate the insight and you taking the time with us this morning. thank you. >> thank you, christi. in the next hour we have more on the covid positive tests from kids who attended a sleep away camp in georgia. breaking overnight, president trump said he'll take executive action to ban tiktok in the u.s. and it could happen today. the video app is incredibly p e poplar. it's owned by a chinese company. >> kris ten holmes is at the white house. the president has suggested over the years he has powers he does not have. is this one of them? how much can he do and why now? >> right now we don't know because the president was so vague as to what exactly he's going to do to ban the app. he said he he could do an executive order. he said he could use emergency economic powers. until we see an actual order, until we see what this is going to look like, it's impossible to analyze what kind of legal challenges he'll face. something we're watching closely is to see how exactly he plans to do that and what the language is. you talk about timing. it came at the same time there were reports that microsoft was in talks with tiktok to buy the u.s. usership, the program here in the u.s. president trump making it clear last night to reporters, he was not in favor of a deal like that. big question here is, how much of a risk really is this app? you said it best, christi, critics are concerned the user data ends up in the hands of the chinese government. this is the first chinese social media site that spread like w d wildfire across the world. and in the u.s., hundreds of millions of downloads. and the u.s. is conducting a national security review. after the review, the board is going to present to the president of the united states some sort of policy recommendations, but this is a real fear. joe biden ordered his entire campaign to delete the app from their phones but tiktok says this isn't an issue. they issued this statement last night. they say that tiktok u.s. user data is stored in the u.s. with strict controls of employee access. the biggest investors come from the u.s. we are committed to protecting our users' privacy and safety as we continue to work to bring joy to families and meaningful careers to those who create on our platform. we're going to watch this closely to see how it plays out, what president trump decides to do, but there are critics of the president saying this is some form of retaliation as we reported on the show. they used this app -- critics used this app to really inflate attendance for president trump's tulsa rally which ended up ultimately embarrassing the campaign. so you're already seeing that side of this. >> all right, kristen holmes, always good to see you, thanks for the report. let's go to jefferson city, georgia. schools there first to welcome students back across the state. and parents are going to tell us how they feel about reopening the schools. >> our administration has done an excellent job in getting us prepared and ready to go back to school. i have full confidence they have put in the right protocols and things to take care of our kids and staff. there was no last minute deal in washington last night to extend the $600 a week unemployment benefit. democrats and republicans appear to be pretty far apart on the next relief bill and it's the out of work americans caught in the middle. we'll tell you more. y for anytime, anywhere migraine strikes without worrying if it's too late or where you happen to be. one dose of ubrelvy can quickly stop a migraine in its tracks within two hours. unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks cgrp protein believed to be a cause of migraine. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. few people had side effects, most common were nausea and tiredness. ask about ubrelvy, the anytime, anywhere migraine medicine. did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance ta-da! so you only pay for what you need? 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christopher's mother tells me, yes, i am sad and worried about my son going to school. as the bus pulls away, there is at least one student not on it. christopher's sister. she was going to start eighth grade but at the last minute was too fright iened to go. tell me why it was scary. >> i don't want to go because i'm scared of getting it. >> it's okay. lots of children are scared. it's all right. i think you'll be okay tomorrow or next week, maybe. and your mom is nice to let you stay home. you agree? >> um-hum. >> your brother went to school today he'll tell you how it is. we wish you the best. >> okay. >> reporter: just up the road at the high school, students gathering and hugging like they would any year on the first day. many of them wearing masks, but just as many if not more not wearing any face coverings. at the elementary school, parents dropping off their children, most of whom seem to have masks, not all. while the masks are mandated on the district school buses, there is no mandate in the schools for students or teachers. the jefferson city board of education has many guidelines in place to keep the students safer and masks are handed out, but actually wearing them is not required. only strongly recommended. we talked to high school seniors before they returned to school. >> i'm ready to be back like in-person learning but it is scary not knowing what it's going to be like. >> i think i would feel better if we had stronger man designati -- mandates to keep us safe. >> so they started a petition to mandate masks. >> i'm concerned about teachers at our school, elderly and pregnant. and some people live with their grandparents or people at high risk if they got the virus. >> our country was built on freedom. >> reporter: in response to that petition, a sophomore started his own, his petition declaring mask wearing should be a choice. >> it should be a choice because it's taking our rights away. >> reporter: would you feel less safe if i was standing here talking to you without my mask on? >> no, we're outside. >> reporter: what about inside? . >> i would be okay. >> reporter: the district superintendent did not want to talk on camera, but they told us in a statement they are confident in their plans and regarding masks, we're following guidelines established by the cdc and georgia department of public health in recommending the use of face coverings as one effective measure to mitigate the spread of covid-19. meanwhile, yolanda payne is not letting her son go back to school right now. roughly 5% of the families have chosen to learn remotely. she said her father passengered away from covid two months ago and her son has asthma. >> i can't take the risk of sending him back to school and him getting covid. >> reporter: gary tuckman, cnn, jefferson, georgia. getting kids back to school is a challenge beyond the u.s., but around the world. >> we have reporters all over talking about how they're preparing to get the kids back. >> reporter: i'm nic robertson in london where covid numbers are increasing but the prime minister said it's a priority to get the kids back to school. in scotland the minister says all pupils will be in classrooms there by the middle of august. in northern august they're having years 7, 12 and 14 in classrooms by the end of august and all other pupils sometimes in september. wells in wales, the groups will be smaller and some students will be doing online tuition. >> reporter: i'm cyril vanier in france. plan a is the virus remains under control is to fully reopen schools, health restrictions fairly light, all students go back to class, attendance compulsory and face masks required for 11-year-olds and above where distancing isn't possible. but france has seen a spike in the number of new cases recreptly. if that continues, schools may need to move to phase 2, a hybrid between in-class and home learning. schools would bring in smaller group of students and find any available space, including outdoors to distance them. if the virus moves faster, phase 3 involves targeted school shutdowns, those students would revert to learning at home except this time schools are planning to provide computers to students who need them. >> reporter: i'm kristie lu stout in hong kong, the schools closed in january and reopened in may. students returned to the classroom but with strict rules in place. classes were separated, half in one room, half in the other with the teacher using zoom to be in both places at once. it appeared that hong kong was winning the war on covid-19 but it's now battling a fresh wave of infection. schools are closing again and parents are facing another battle of online learning in the fall. so we'll be talking about the next school year throughout the morning because we know this is important to you. i know you might have some good ideas here. what is the best way, do you think, to educate kids in the pandemic? and how do the needs, say, of first graders differ from middle school. >> and there are college students, how do you keep them safe on campus? >> in the 10:00 hour i'll be joined by the president of rice university. we'll have a conversation about how to keep college students healthy and safe. stay with us for that. >> and talking about negotiations on a coronavirus relief package that has ended in a stalemate now. that means millions of you may be losing some of your unemployment benefits if you've been receiving them. >> and there does not appear to be a path ahead in washington for a new aid package. allison, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. as lawmakers drag their feet on a new relief bill, families are facing a fiscal cliff. just hours ago on friday night at midnight, the extra $600 a week unemployment benefit ran out. it's unclear if congress will agree to provide more jobless benefits as part of a new round of stimulus. that's raising fears among economists of another hit to a u.s. economy which just posted the worst drop of gdp on record. plummeting at an annual rate of 32.9% between april and june. the economy is expected to rebound the quarter of the year we're in but spiking numbers of coronavirus cases across the country could slow it down. and unemployment has increased for two weeks in a row. lasting damage to the labor market remains a key for concern. if congress doesn't come up with a way to get more money in the pockets of consumers, then the economy could slow down more. consumers are the backbone of the economy and experts are worried that it may be tough for consumers to keep shopping. the latest government figures show personal spending rose more than 5% last month because of the support from the various benefits. but the benefits have already faded away. christi and crick or the. >> thank you. hurricane isaias is moving towards the florida coast after hitting the caribbean for a few days. allison chinchar is tracking the storm. the course structure the university of phoenix offers- it just suits my life perfectly because i am a mom, i'm a wife. and i was able to complete those short courses- five to six weeks- and then move onto the next until i reached my goal. did you know diarrhea is often causedtry pepto diarrhea. food? 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>> well, since 2016, since we know of the foreign interference that was attempted in the election in 2016, state election officials have been working with local officials and federal officials, for instance, the department of homeland security to make sure the election is more secure. there's more information sharing, more paper ballots, but auditing of those, but running an election in a pandemic is difficult. while election officials are planning for social distancing and ramping up more mail balloting because it's necessary it's frustrating to hear things out of the white house that would throw questions at the integrity of the election. >> you probably know i'm going to the 12th district of new york. june primary there, it's now august -- this is not a question about the security of the ballot there is. but this has gone on for five weeks. are you confident states are ready for this or is there any evidence new york would be more prepared in this three months? >> new york could be, should be more prepared but this is a question of funding, victor. what happened in the 12th district was that absentee ballots far exceeded the number of people that voted on primary day in june. it overloaded the system. it overwhelmed a system that wasn't prepared for hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots. for example, ballots were sent and the post office tried to move them along without putting a postmark on them and then they arrived at the board of elections which didn't have a date on it. and if it didn't have a date it couldn't be sure it was mailed in time. there's legal challenges to follow for that. we should all be careful that dysfunction is not the same as deceit. what the president is saying fraudulent ballots and so forth. we have to make sure there's a clean election with ballots counted in new york. >> let's hear what the president has to say about what we could see in new york. his suggestion. >> i don't want to see an election -- so many years i've been watching elections. and they say the projected winner or the winner of the election. i don't want to see that take place in a week after november 3rd or a month, or frankly, with litigation and everything else that can happen, years, or you never know who won the election. >> so errol, anything short of a clear win for the president -- and right now there's no poll that suggests that's in the cards -- how confident are you, or is that what you're expecting we'll see from the trump campaign, piles of litigation? >> well, i don't know about litigation so much. they've already started by the way. they have begun litigation trying to halt or impede or d distort the implementation of mail-in ballots. but we'll see the president try to throw shade, no actual facts, on the election in part because he's behind. he's really laying the ground work for a possible defeat. substantively speaking with mail-in and early voting and the ways we expand people to have their voices heard, it does take about a month leading up to and following election day to get the proper count. we'll have early voting that starts weeks before november 3rd. we'll have absentee ball lots for service men overseas for example, takes a while to get here. that won't begin to be counted until after november 3rd. then you have to total it up. so the president needs to grow up. those who care about having every vote counted should be prepared for what's going to be about a 30-day process before we know for sure what all of the ballots are telling us about the outcome. >> in the shift to more mail-in ballots across the country, your group i read has discouraged a full all mail-in system because you suggest that there would be a dramatic shift in the electora electorate. the makeup of the electorate. explain that. >> we haven't really discouraged that. there are some states ready for mail voting, particularly states in the west that have been doing it for a long time, than other states, particularly in the east where mail voting is new to them. but there are issues, traditionally mail voting has skewed towards older voters and towards disproportionately towards voters who are white. we need to be aware that younger voters and people of color might prefer or need to vote in person so there's going to be significant options to vote in person either early on or election days. we've seen it in the primaries where the demand for voting is significant. thank you both. 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