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back and i want to go back. >> the oxford vaccine produces a strong immunity response in patients. >> this is the first time we have had an anti-vaccine movement before we have had the vaccine. ♪ good saturday morning to you. it is july 25th. i'm victor blackwell. >> thank you for joining us this morning. i'm abby phillip in for christie paul this morning. amid the debate of reopening schools in the united states new coronavirus records are here and around the world remind us it won't be easy to do that. >> a record number of new cases reported in a 24-hour period yesterday. 284,196. that's one day. for the fourth straight day the u.s. reported more than 1,000 daily coronavirus deaths. and the cdc says that reopening schools for in-person in classroom learning for most of the country is safe but that schools in areas where more than 5% or the transmission is above 5% that they should consider staying closed or at least delaying for a while. >> and the food and drug administration said it's giving emergency use authorization to the first coronavirus test for people without symptoms. the fda calls it a possible game changer to help to reopen schools and businesses and keeping them open. to get us started let's go to polo sandoval in new york city for a look at where we stand nationwide. polo, experts are saying that they're seeing a plateau, good news, cases in some of the states, but there are also new records of cases in other states. what are we seeing around the country? >> reporter: adding to that we can start on a national look on the west coast in california added to the list of three states hit the hardest since the start of the pandemic. florida and new york the other two with well over 400 cases and texas not far behind with 380,000 cases. coming to the lone star state there are some parts of that state that have seen at least some form of a plateau. but there are other partins of texas where they make life and death decisions. six months into the pandemic and some of the nation's coronavirus stats are going from bad to worse. california beat out new york as a state with the most infections to date. >> we focused so much on when but not enough on how to not only do it but to educate individuals. >> reporter: on friday, california recorded its highest number of covid deaths and hard hit l.a. county, health officials warn the virus may become a leading cause of death among residents. covid cases seem to be plateauing in some of texas' largest cities but a small south texas border county patients may be sent home to die if they're deemed too sick to recover. the local county judge said the hospital is at capacity. that's a common struggle for health facilities in florida which saw a nearly 84% increase in covid hospitalizations since july fourth as statistics hit record breaking highs in the south and the west, parts of the northeast are experiencing lows not seen since march. on friday, new york recorded the lowest number of hospitalizations in nearly four months and with the approaching school year weeks away, parents and teachers facing uncertainty about when or if in-person classes will resume amid a push to reopen schools. >> kids ought to have the option to learn in person and virtually. i believe they ought to have choices. if teachers have vulnerable immune systems they ought to have options, as well. but we have to get our kids back into a school in a safe way. >> if you are going to bring the children back -- >> reporter: dr. anthony fauci the nation's leading infectious disease expert urging school districts not to rush to any decisions. >> there are a lot of people with underlying conditions out there so i think when you talk about forcing teachers to come back to school, you better be careful about that and make sure you pay attention to, a, keeping them safe and keeping them healthy. >> reporter: fauci not ruling out outdoor teaching to get students back to school. >> i wear this all the time. >> reporter: and recommending face coverings be worn in the classroom. back here in new york state, numbers are trending very well here. there's a concern highlighted by the governor cuomo with a significant increase over a short period of time of young people testing positive for the coronavirus, mainly in their 20s and up to 30 years old and linking that or blaming that in part to some violations that we have seen in some restaurants and bars throughout new york city so the governor saying that there will be full enforcement this weekend. >> polo, thank you so much. let's go to the white house now. sarah westwood is there. so the white house specifically the press secretary is saying that there's no change, sarah, in the president's approach to the pandemic but we all know that the president a couple months ago said people wore masks to show disapproval of him and teased candidate joe biden for wearing one. now he is canceling the jacksonville portion of the convention. we are seeing with our own eyes, anyone with a memory back eight weeks, knows that's not true. >> reporter: all right. victor, the shift in the tone of the president this week is evident. the president acknowledging that coronavirus is going to get worse before it gets better after weeks of him trying to paint a rosier picture that america has made. as you mentioned, the president also canceling the jacksonville portion of the gop convention next month. that was going to be something that the president wanted as a big celebration of his journey towards his re-election battle with thousands of people packed in there much more like a traditional convention and mocked joe biden for having a scaled down convention. mocked the democrats for going that route early announcing they were going to. the president canceling the events in jacksonville is an acknowledgement that the situation in florida has gotten much, much worse since the events were moved to that state and acknowledging that some school districts are going to need to stay closed in the fall after the president had spent weeks pushing a reopening plan for schools across the country but despite all of that the white house is arguing that the president has been consistent in his coronavirus messaging. >> the president has been consistent on this. he wore a mask back at the ford facility. he carries around in the pocket. showed you multiple times. he's not changed and in just speaking on covid generally, the pay i have heard him talk privately in the oval office is how he is talking about here but the president takes dozens and dozens of your questions every day because he felt the best way to get information to the american people was for him to be out here answering your questions and providing this directly. >> reporter: sources tell cnn that the president's kratderring poll numbers played a big role in him bringing back the daily briefings and pivoting towards a serious coronavirus messaging strategy. aides persuaded the president to endorse masks and return to the podium as he promotes a more serious pandemic response, victor and abby. >> cratering poll numbers but not rising death and case numbers, sarah westwood, thank you so much. so the u.s. government is backing several different vaccine candidates through "operation warp speed" and for the first time in the u.s. one of the panels, attempts at entering phase three trials next week. 30,000 volunteers expected to take part. a possible vaccine developed by the research center in partnership with bio tech company moderna. bring in now dr. mcmurray. doctor, thank you so much for being back on cnn and good morning to you. >> good morning to you. >> let's start here with moderna. several -- 30,000 volunteers, test subjects at dozens of locations across the country, give an idea of who they look for, what is participating and what the next phase will try to determine. >> well, we have very, very good news this week. in addition to just moderna, two other vaccine candidates that are looking incredibly promising and close to the phase three trials. what is a phase three trial mean? first, when i was an official back at the fda we paid very close attention to the fact to go in distinct stages. very first stage trying to make sure that the new drug is safe and then testing it in a small number of patients to see if it's behaving the way you hope it to behave and in phase three you take it to a large number of patients so that you're sure it works across the population. and that's what we are seeing now with three of the promising vaccine candidates. two of the phase three trials will be kicked off next week and this is incredibly exciting news because we are entering the home stretch of getting vaccines ready for the american public. >> so home stretch. blue sky world. best-case scenario, when could the average american who's not, you know, a first responder or a brain surgeon get this vaccine if this third phase shows that it is safe and effective? >> well, we at the bio technology innovation organization represent over 1,000 companies in the bio technology space, from the small companies like moderna to the larger companies and across the board we see an incredible acceleration of speed so it is not uncommon to see a phase three trial last two or three years but what's amazing is that everyone trained the sights to crack the covid code and we are hoping to have vaccines accessible to the public by the spring of next year and also we have panels of experts that are carefully looking at how to decide who should get the vaccine first based on need, based on who is most vulnerable and this is incredibly important. so we really want the american public to know that the experts, the scientific leaders, are taking this into account to make sure they get the doses out to the people who need them most first. >> listen to something that former cdc director tom frieden said overnight in this podcast that was posted about the anti-vaccine movement and what the country or actually the world will have to face in trying to vaccinate billions potentially of people. let's watch. >> if already too much suspicion and hesitancy of vaccines and a way to address that is to just say it like it is and be sure to say what we are doing, when we're doing it and learning. this is the first time we have had an anti-vaccine movement before we've had the vaccine. >> doctor, do you think that there is a residual impact on potential resistance to the vaccine because this is happening so quickly? some overlapping of phases. i know that there will be, of course, the determination that anything gets to the people will be safe but this is happening at an unprecedented speed. >> the reason we're able to go at the speed is because our companies and our scientists have been focused so hard on trying to shift everything into fighting the covid war and it's an incredible testament to their round the clock dedication that we have made it to this point so soon. it is completely unprecedented. dr. frieden is wise and sage that we need transparency and consistency talking about vaccines and if anything the resistance to start to see among the public around the idea of a vaccine is because of the mixed messages they're receiving particularly from their leaders so we need clarity. an example of the mixed messages is just friday the administration unveiled executive orders that could cripple the companies working to develop these vaccines and the treatments to covid and this is a -- just dumbfounding timing because we need everything trained on getting this right and that's what our companies are singularly focused on and that's what we want the american public to know. >> the president and the white house would say that those executive orders which really don't have any -- much impact potentially and could have some long down the line would be to by their framework lower drug prices. i want to step away from vaccines for a moment and then talk about therapeutics instead because we know from dr. fauci saying that coronavirus will not be eradicated. what do we know about the progress on therapeutics, things to make this when people get it less consequential? >> therapeutic race is also going very well, particularly seeing promising results around antibody based therapies with antibodies from patients or animals who have been exposed to coronavirus and then use those, expand them, use those in patients facing covid. we need both therapeutics and vaccines. we need a vaccine to prevent people from getting covid and need treatments if you get covid or before the vaccine is available so it is important that we pursue the two aims immediately but i'll just take a brief issue with one of the things you mentioned because the executive order that is came out on friday actually can have an immediate chilling effect on the ability of our companies to really focus on doing their job, to focus on getting science out to patients and to have the resources needed to make sure that they go at breakneck speed. this is never more important and need to be trained on it. there's a reason that 70% of the innovation is coming from small companies and more than 50% of the projects trained to fight covid are coming from the united states because we have the innovation ecosystem that really supports that amazing ingenuity. >> all right. doctor, president and ceo of bio, always good to have you as part of the conversation. >> thank you. >> abby? still to come, there really aren't many answers for parents and teachers right now about how they'll return safely to school this fall. what is missing from the cdc's new guidelines for reopening? that's ahead. the killing of george floyd prompted protests across the world against police brutality and in north carolina there's a city taking on the contentious issue of reparations. we'll show you how. come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. 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brutality and racism and cnn is continuing to putt a spot slight on the struggle for racial justice in america so this week i spent sometime on the ground in north carolina in a city that's taking on the contentious issue of reparations. most people associate reparations with righting the wrongs of slavery but in asheville, north carolina, they're taking a different approach and seeking to address inequities that are far more recent. >> reporter: tucked away in north carolina blue ridge, asheville is linebacker ral. >> the bluest dot west of charlotte. ♪ >> reporter: but everyone here this summer has been different. >> the demonstrations in the wake of george floyd's murder really were different. the momentum is like nothing we have ever felt before. >> reporter: black lives matter signs are unmistakable in store fronts in the city and in the heart of downtown. >> so what is this? >> confederate monument and it looks this way because we decided to shroud it until a task force decides exactly what we want to do with it, remove it or repurpose it. >> reporter: recently the city council of the city pledged to tackle the dark past with a resolution promising to work toward reparations and not without controversy. >> we are not responsible for what happened 200 years ago. >> i find this wrong in so many ways and strongly oppose it. the black people are not the only race that had been enslaved in america and around the world. >> reporter: but it is not just slavery which the city apologized for passing the resolution and something far more recent. >> before urban renewal implemented down the street were homeowners. >> reporter: urban renewal which was called urban removal played out in the 1950s and '60s. >> the red of the areas acquisitions by asheville housing authority, property, homes and businesses that were taken, sold, hover you want to put it. >> reporter: all of these are plots owned by -- >> african-americans, yes. >> reporter: houses of poor or blighted neighborhoods were acquired by the city. marked to be demolished or renovated. >> i remember as a young girl seeing everyone dragging furniture. as i describe it, it was like a wagon trail. people were carrying chairs. it was a community breakdown. >> reporter: black residents were moved out and into public housing, told that they would be able to return but for many that promise was never kept. today, nearly 60% of people who live in low income public housing in asheville are black though black people make up 12% of the city's population a. legacy of urban renewal and policies like red lining. >> what we see now is a result. this is public housing. what could have been still homeowners. up and down livingston street. >> reporter: the reparations resolution is vague but the city council's hope is that they can create program that is will help balance housing inequity and rebuild generational wealth that was stripped from black residents in urban renewal and decades before it. as for cash payments -- >> the language in the resolution did not exclude that as an option. >> reporter: that's the part that has made reparations a flashpoint in washington. >> i don't think reparations for something that happened 150 years ago for whom none of us livering are responsible is a good idea. >> reporter: cities like asheville, evanston, illinois, and providence, rhode island, are facing it head on. >> we benefit from the system that exist that keep people of color at an economic and educational and health disadvantage and give us a straighter track in the world. the world in this country is built for white people. >> ultimately what asheville decides to do holds lessons not just for other cities looking to do similar things but national lawmaker who is a lawmakers who are looking to address inequities and through the long-term programs aimed at the economic and social well-being of black americans. i spoke to an expert this week who told me the idea of property, rectifying the loss of generational wealth through property could be a real game changer coming to addressing some of the issues for black americans. >> this is not a conversation this is limited to several centuries ago. whether the woman you spoke with talked about the image that stays with her of people dragging furniture, that is in her lifetime and the urban renewal story as you pointed out is not limited to asheville. that impacts families across this country and the lack of and loss of potential generational we wealth. thank you for that story. i hope people share it online. health care workers on the front line, we'll speak with a representative of the largest nurse's union in the u.s. about the challenges they are facing. gillette proglide and proglide gel. five blades and a pivoting flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke, while washing away dirt and oil. so you're ready for the day with a clean shave and a clean face. no matter what challenges life throws at you, 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where you work? we know florida has become one of the epicenters of this pandemic right now. what is the state of play for you day-to-day? >> thank you for having me here. thank you for caring. here in southwest florida, we're seeing a lot more as you know younger people being tested positive and people that are symptom free. and that's -- that's -- these people are showing up at the hospital for whatever reason, you know, they may be coming in for anything, for stomach ache and because they're not having symptoms, they're not normally tested as they're coming in. you know? in through the e.r. and come up on the floor and if they need a procedure or something like that, they will be tested and then we'll see that they're positive and, you know, usually at that point, you know, they have already by no fault of their own exposed other patients and staff members. so we're seeing a bit of a surge coming in to charlotte county, as well. >> yeah. that sounds like a really terrifying 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needs? >> if they allow the heroes act to be passed, we can deal with it. the two things that are especially important to us are, number one, ensuring that we get the ppe and other medical supplies we need to keep us safe in order to care for the patients. and a steady supply of it. this can be ensured through the heroes act with a medical supply response coordinator who will ensure that the coordination at the government, the federal government level, is transparent and coordinates all aspects to get the equipment that we need where we need it most. and a second thing that's essential for us is to make sure that osha, the occupational safety and health administration, sets a temporary standard for all employees at this point so that employers do not do what cynthia was talking about, keep the supplies under lock and key. make sure that we get them where we need them and then that it's a proper type of equipment. also, that employers ensure that employees are taught exactly how to use the equipment. and that i think then we could get by. >> yeah. just the fact that we are still having this conversation so many months into this pandemic, we can't provide ppe for medical workers like the two of you is i think really a sad state of affairs but cynthia and jean, thank you both for joining us this morning. >> you're welcome. >> thank you for having me. three major storms expected to impact the u.s. and the caribbean in the next coming days. by major, maybe not by the classification, but the impact could be big. flooding, strong winds. we have a live report next. it's not just fund fees that matter. fund taxes matter too. every time a fund manager sells a stock it triggers a tax liability for you. and the higher the turnover the more you have to pay in taxes every year. and here's the worst part, because of high turnover, you actually might have to pay taxes even if the fund itself loses money. that's why you want to own low turnover funds whenever possible. the less you 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to strengthen before it makes landfall? you are seeing the outer rain bands to push into texas and areas of louisiana with heavy rain bands. both of the states continue to see heavy rain off and on throughout the day today. the heaviest will be across portions of south texas. widespread amounts. three to five inches of rain but some spots to pick up eight, nine, ten inches of rain before this system finally does move out. you also have storm surge warnings up and down the coast here. the peak around that corpus christi and rockport area of three to five feet and again potential for some tornadoes and even waterspouts is possible but again, guys, this is one of four systems to watch, three have names the fourth one off the coast of the africa has a 50% chance of getting a name in the next five days. >> we know you'll watch it for us. thank you so much. >> thank you. and still to come, we have been hearing from teachers and administrators of school reopenings but students, who do they 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rate of covid-19 transmission in their communities before making a decision about in-person instruction. this comes as some school districts are requiring all teachers to go back to the classroom unless they have a doctor's note. let's grinning in jennifer hamad a student representative with the houston school district and a rising senior at houston high school. her high school is reopening with virtual learning this fall. but she's encouraging the district to have a year-long plan before reopening. jennifer, thank you for being with us this morning. >> hello. >> so you're taking on a huge issue here. you are one of the kids that would have to go back to school at some point under this plan. the district plans to phase in, in-person school after six weeks. but you're pushing for kids to weigh in on this plan, before they're finalized. why do you think that's important? why are you, you know, putting that out there as an important thing today? >> actually for a number of reasons as to why we're supporting that as student, parents and teachers. one thing that we did find in our survey we collected statistical analysis on the data we collected. we also found disconcerting information. distance parents are more likely to send their children to school as they feel compelled by their circumstances. we don't want this idea -- it sounds nice to say we're providing a choice to families to send their kids back to school or in person or not. truly, it's more of a superficial idea at best. it's not really that real. because, you know, this idea providing a choice actually exploits the circumstances of disadvantaged families. and we see right now, just in houston, in our forest hills system that their hospitals are overwhelmed by covid-19 patients. so we so it's disproportionately affected our low-income families. it's also very important to note that the classroom environment that we love or remember can be be replicated in the current circumstances. with the social distancing, the beauty of instruction is being able to collaborate and be close to your peers and teachers. with this now, it's going to strip that away from the inperson learning. that's going to minimize the in-person instruction. in-person instruction is going to be interrupted when you get infections be it teachers or students. you're going to have to close down schools with the protocols. and we know that the school year is going to get disrupted. whereas distance learning is to covid, when you think about it, in-person instruction is more disruptive, dangerous and not conducive for learning. it's not really going to -- >> yeah, we only have a couple seconds left. you're in high school. you're obviously making a decision that will force you to be away from your friends. what is that going to be like for you? >> well, when we think about it, as students, i think the way we should be remembered as a generation is not that we were affected by covid-19. but rather, how we responded to it, how we adapted. and it's really -- as far as i want to protect my fellow teachers and my fellow students. that above all, showing love for each other is caring for each other and the health of your fellow students and teachers. so that comes to all. >> thanks, jennifer. we're out of time. thank you for being with us. good luck to you this year. >> thank you so much. more in the next hour of your "new day." we'll be right back. are you still at risk for a heart attack or stroke? even if you're on a statin? statins may lower some risks, but may not be enough. that's why science delivered vascepa. for people who have persistent cardiovascular risk factors and take a statin only vascepa is clinically proven to provide 25% lower risk from heart attack and stroke. don't take vascepa if you're allergic to icosapent ethyl or any inactive ingredient in vascepa. tell your doctor about any medicines you take, and if you are allergic to fish or shellfish. stop taking vascepa and seek medical 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