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CNNW New Day December 27, 2017

Erie, pennsylvania, shattering the twoday snowfall record in the entire state. All of a sudden it just got really, really bad. This is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. Youre watching new day. It is wednesday, december 27th. 6 00 in new york. It is so cold. How cold is it . Erie. Wait until we show you the recordbreaking show there. President trump plans to kick off the new way with a push on infrastructure. He hopes it will get democrats on board. During the campaign, he promised a trillion dollar plan. Thats changing now. President trump also predicts democrats and republicans will come together for a health care deal, but he is falsely claiming that obamacare has been essentially repealed. Poor elements of the Health Care Law remain intact even without the individual mandate. Just hours after President Trump said he is getting back to work after christmas, he was getting back to golf rg something he is repeatedly criticized his predecessor for doing when he was a private citizen. How much time he has spent at his properties and golf courses this year. And president obama sitting down for an interview with prince harry. He talks about the divisive nature of social media without talking President Trump. Lets begin with abby phillip live in west palm beach, florida. Good morning, abby. Reporter good morning, bill. They are looking to full fit another of President Trumps campaign promises, infrastructure. They are looking at a january unveil for a major proposal that will be featured in the president s state of the union before both chambers of congress toward the end of the month. That is looking to be 200 billion worth of spending. Thats something that in the past democrats have said they are interested in working with the president on. That number is deemed a little bit too small to spur the kind of investment in the economy and also to meet the in tpfrastruct needs. That number is a floor not a ceiling. The white house is talking about bipartisanship when it comes to health care. The president sent out a tweet saying now that the individual mandate has been repealed, the democrats will come to the table on a health care plan. There is no evidence that any such plan is in the works. Meanwhile, the president is is still on his vacation here in florida. Hes been spotted at the golf course the last few days. No word yet what kind of Health Care Proposal hes been working on with his aides up until this point, bill. Okay, abby. Thank you very much for all of that reporting. Lets bring in our panel. Round brownstein and karoun demurjian. This new in from Structure Plan will be 200 billion for a decade. So basically 20 billion a year, not 1 trillion. Is this something both sides can get on board with . It is Fertile Ground for bipartisanship and cooperation. You will have a little bit of fighting over the money. Democrats are already saying where is the money going to come from. They will point to the 1. 5 trillion shortfall after the tax reform went through and say, okay, you can spend money there, but you cant put the money towards infrastructure. If youre balancing 200 billion from the federal investment without the answer of where that money will come from, it has to come from states, localities and the private sector, possibly taxation, this might have repercussions on the kpeupb trail. Remember, were in an election year. There is going to be a money fight here thats frankly under started. The democrats commenting on this are asking, where is the money coming from . Not saying we wont work with you but they need that to play ball. The obama stimulus, the 800. 35 of that big nut was for tax cuts. Only 35 went to eventual investment like pell grants, research and those sorts of things. With creeky bridges and potholes everywhere, this seems is like an easy bipartisan sell. It seems like an easy one that even the president acknowledged he would wait until later. The tax cuts were such a big part of the stimulus because that was the price of getting a few republicans to come along. Look, we have just been through a promise that was by itself unprecedented. We had a major tax cut pass without a single vote from the opposite party. Ronald reagan had two dozen vote for his tax plan in 1981. George bush had a dozen. Donald trump could not attract a single democrat in either chamber for this tax plan. It would seem on paper, as were saying, that it is easier to do infrastructure to attract across a party line on infrastructure. But the specifics could create more challenges than it appears. One we have been discussing is the cost. Is this enough to generate the private activity that the president wants to trigger. How do you pay for it against the back drop of adding to the 1. 5 trillion in debt. Like the tax plan and like the health plan, make it less attractive to democrats. In the past at least, what the administration talked about is encouraging privately owned projects, for example, toll roads, that are generally speaking less attractive to democrats. By the way, also less likely to benefit the rural areas. If we go down memory lane, and i do feel nostalgic this time of year. Remember the healing cry from republicans, the stimulus is the wrong way to go. You know, look, now that the economy has recovered, it seems like it is a good time to revisit the stimulus may have been the right way to go, number one. But also, karoun, morrell vanity to today, the role reversal is so interesting, right . Now republicans are like, you know, debt be damned. And democrats are like, what are we doing with this deficit spending . One is is the party with the majority calling the shots and the other is saying hold on, hold on. Sit a predictable switch. The debt and deficit not just bad policy, bad everything. It was the core of so much they were arguing aboutment it is awe flip that will now be used as a political event against them. Next year will be the first referendum on how that works. There is so much that you can take a lesson from in the past. Generally speaking, when we are talking about infrastructure, remember, we havent had a comprehensive infrastructure proposal pass long in a long time. Even in a year where this isnt is the political the political wins arent what they are, it is hard. It is a split and its not an easy lift. Ron, this tweet yesterday got a bit of attention. The president saying based on the fact that the very unfair and unpopular individual mandate has been terminated as part of our tax cut bill, which essentially repeals parenthesis over time obamacare, the republicans will eventually come together and create a great new health care plan. We can in fact, check that in realtime. It doesnt essentially repeal obamacare. There were interesting pieces in the New York Times and Washington Post how obamacare expanded health care in this country through medicare expansion. Explain that. Look, there are so many irons in that tweet. Lets unpack them. To repeal the individual mandate is a blow against obamacare but not a fatal blow. The Medicaid Expansion covered more people than the individual market that it affects is untouched. The insurance reforms are untouched. And the is subsidies remain. So most of the pillars of obamacare are still in place. The irony here is that you go, and maybe you remember this, if you go back to the 2008 campaign, it was barack obama who said he did not want the individual mandate as part of the system. He said the carrot in effect would be enough to bring younger, healthier people in and you didnt need to stick it. The last irony is to the extent that repealing the mandate does matter, it will make it less likely that younger, healthier people will come into the system. What that means is higher premiums for older people with Greater Health needs though remain. The irony is older americans, particularly older, white americans are the cornerstone of the republican coalitionment a majority of Donald Trumps votes came from whites over 45. When you look at the midwestern states that decided the election, the post people likely to be hurt are their own voters. Karoun, help us make sense of the shifting sands. One of the big pushes for why we needed obamacare, people were using the emergency room as their primary care physician. That was 20 . Now it is down to 12. 5 . That worked. And public insurance has gone up from 11. 5 to 19 . So what do we think health care will look like in the new year . Well, i think the changes that are being made will affect who has coverage. It is a question of opting in and will people that were compelled to do it before still choose to do it now if the compulsion and the penalties arent there. I think this is the big question, right . Health care has been a political rallying cry and a thing that affects the bottom line. The first effects will be felt in the first few months of the new year. They have to be balanced out. Do people emerge from all of that toward the end of 2018 feeling better off or worse off. That will determine if there are no future legislative changes. If the gop is successful in making more limitations to the obamacare system that will be another factor that has to be played in. I think this is all going to kind of depend on the political and emotional response to all of it and just the practical bottom line response. And it will be different locality to locality because of who tends to be covered under what the original obamacare structure was versus parts of it that are still in place now. Real quick, the Budget Office said if you would repeal the individual mandate you would have 13 million fewer in insurance. But we just saw nearly 9 Million People signed up for the federal exchange despite a short signup period. There is a lot of demand for health care. So it may survive with lessee roegz of coverage than you think. The sticker shock so many families are looking is the problem today. President obama opening up about life after the white house in this rare new interview with prince harry. What did these two talk about . Reporter well, a lot of it did center on social media. While donald trump is a prolific twitter user, he wasnt used by name. But president obama did have some warnings. Listen to what he said. The question i think really has to do with how do we harness this technology in a way that allows a multiplicity of sroutsz, allovoices, but doesn toledo to a eventuvulcanization. Im not sure government can legislate that but what i do he believe is that all of us in leadership have to find ways in which we can recreate a common space on the internet. The dangers of the internet is people can have entirely different realities. They can be just cocooned in information that reinforces their current biases. We have certainly seen that. I know this whole interview wasnt interest serious policies. Prince harry got some personal details from president obama. Reporter he sure did. They have such Good Chemistry together. President obama does miss his motorcade when it comes to traffic. The last bit for last. There was a quick fire round. Now listen to this. Harry or william . William right now. Titanic or the bodyguard. Titanic. Sui. Cigarettes or gum . Gum now, baby. White house or Buckingham Palace. White house just because Buckingham Palace looks like it would take a long time to mow. A lot of upkeep. Queen or the queen . The queen. Clearly these guys are friends. They have such Good Chemistry. They know each other now really well. So it is no surprise after the interview was aired today prince harry himself was asked questions. He was asked a question that we all want to know the answer to. Enough to invite him to your wed something. I dont know about that. We havent put the invites, all the guest lists together. Who knows if he will be invited or not . Reporter very diplomatic and a good surprise ahead maybe. That would create an international incident. If barack obama were to attend before President Trump and meet the queen first . President trump not exactly the most favorite world leader in the uk after he retpwaoweeted t antiislamic videos. Reporter if president obama could be invited it would be as a friend and not head of state. They announced this will be a wedding that reflects the permits of prince harry and meghan markle. Very interesting to see how that guest lists look. Anybody who has had to do the table arrangements, i can only imagine at that level. Coming up, is the United States taking the threats of russia meddling in future elections seriously enough . We will discuss a new report raising even more questions next. Trace every precious product, every step of the way, with a blockchain built for business. The ibm cloud. The cloud for business. Yours. As special counsel robert muler and several committees investigate russia in the u. S. Election, an article about how seriously the Trump Administration is taking the threat. This is an interesting piece in the Washington Post that goes back to the earliest of putins efforts when he realized the information war was a cheap, effective way to get things done and these trolls were out in force to where at a certain point the Obama Administration was behind the curve. They went to their allies and said, hey, this is going on. And they said, no kidding . We have been saying this for a long time. There are indications they finally figured it out and the Obama Administration left a road map how to react. But the debate in the Trump Administration has stalled any actual action. What should we take from this . Well, i think its been difficult for either administration. And for that matter, governments in europe, to determine exactly how to respond to this clearly 21st century version of warfare. From putins point of view, the return on investment in cyber warfare interference in the elections in the u. S. And elsewhere has been enormous. No matter how you look at it, america is divided, a split, and kind of at sea over how to respond. And if one of their goals is to engender more division in society they have certainly achieved that. The challenge is real no matter who is president. Sit multiplied when you have a president who seems to view any acknowledgment of the general is inthreat as a cloud over the legitimacy of his election. And it is striking in the Washington Post story, which is, again, excellent by their the National Security team that when theyre asked about the threat this poses to the democracy broadly speaking across parties, the response of some in the white house is to say, well, Hillary Clinton made mistakes, didnt campaign in wisconsin and michigan and that is worse than what russia did. That is like comparing Nuclear Weapons and apples. Theyre not comparable. Since the election, a lot of the same trolls have switched and have become critical of this white house. Ultimately it is about dividing and distracting. For sure. And its working, by the way. Karoun, this is the Washington Post. I will read an excerpt. One previously unreported order, a sweeping president ial finding to combat global Cyber Threats prompted u. S. Spy agencies. But one year after those instructions were given, the Trump White House remains divided over what was said. In other words, President Trumps denial of russian meddling hes called the whole thing a hoax that that is just bringing everything to a stand still. Well, as ron pointed out, the president has not done a good job with disassociating his own concerns with anything that revolves around the world russia reflecting on his legitimacy in the white house. And the idea that there is a broader russian threat out there that does not just affect him or the 2016 president ial election, i should say, but going into the next election cycle and in general when it comes to systems and just the basic security of many different aspects of this country. Sit a cheap investment that if it doesnt pay off, no big deal. If it does, it is is add vane teenageous to have tried to instill this weakness in an adversary that the United States is much stronger in most other ways. You have seen the president from early on be this voice. Even as all of his picks were sawing, yes, we endorse the assessment of what happened in 2016, the president saying im not so sure about that. Hes been unwilling to go even to the were level of saying the russian threat is unique and worth being concerned about. And so to see that is pervasive all the way through, it has held up certain actions that could have been taken. It is remarkable. Because you can point a finger and say you should have known better looking at europe, that United States cant be that special and impervious to that sort of thing. President trump had proof of what happened and yet sat on that and not acted. Thats whats remarkable about the decisions that have not been made. Lets pivot to another common theme during the train campaign, criticism for president obamas favorite way to get outside and take a walk. Take a listen to this. Obama, it was reported today, played 250 rounds of golf. Everything is executive order. He doesnt have enough time. Obama ought to get off the golf course and get down there. Im going to be working for you. I dont have time to play golf. He plays more golf than tiger woods. He played more golf than the pga tour. If i were in the white house, i dont think i would ever see turnberry or doral again. Believe me, if i win this, im not going to be playing much golf. Lets put the words up against the tale of the tape. The president has spent 86 days at one of his golf properties. Thats 111 days at a trump property. Away from the white house. He said i will never leave the white house. There is so much to do

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