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Right there. Whats behind it . Lets first look at independent voters. Theres a fascinating gender divide here. Among female independent voters Hillary Clinton has a 20point lead. Barack obama beat mitt romney among female independent voters by 1 point. Hillary clinton significantly out performing obama on that score, 20 point lead among women and trump has a 4 point lead among independent men. Lets look at white voters and how they split with their education level. This has been a telling indicator all election season. Hillary clinton has a 13 point lead, 50 to 37 among white voters with a college degree. Mitt romney beat barack obama among these voters by 14 points. Hillary clinton has completely flipped that script. This is the trump base right here. White voters with no college degree. Hes got a 21 point lead, 55 to 34 but the key thing to remember here is that in our last poll that was a 44 point lead so Hillary Clinton has narrowed that gap. Africanamerican voters, another group that donald trump has been trying to go after here. Not making much progress. This is obama level support among the africanamerican voters. 95 to 5 and very important, take a look at enthusiasm. This is what helps drive what is a likely voter. Hillary clinton narrowing the gap. In september 58 of trump voters were very unthese see as stick. Only 46 of clinton voters. That was a 12 point lead. Now its a 6 point lead for trump. His voters are still more enthusiastic. Hillary clinton used that debate performance to enthuse her base. Alisyn . David, thanks so much for that. Donald trump is digging in on his tax bombshell. Saying he, quote, brilliantly used the tax laws to pay as little as possible. Hillary clinton said he took from america with both hands. Phil mattingly is live tonight. Reporter which is it . Is it the angle the Clinton Campaign will donald trump or is it the opportunity for donald trump to take the issue of his business and spin it as a positive . Well, it appears to be both, at least according to the candidates yesterday. Take a listen. The unfairness of the tax laws is unbelievable. Its something that ive been talking about for a long time. Youve heard me talking about it. Despite being a very big beneficiary, i must admit. Youre more important than my being a beneficiary, so were going to straighten it out and make it fair for everybody. Some of his supporters says, well, it just shows hes a genius, that he didnt pay any taxes. Well, what kind of genius loses a billion dollars in the first place . Now, guys, the question becomes who does the which candidate do the voters end up siding with on this issue . Now Trump Campaign advisors for the last couple of months when it came to his tax returns and his unwillingness to show them has said, this isnt a big issue. This isnt something that resonates with our supporters or independents. According to the latest cnn orc poll says 86 believe candidates have a civic duty to pay taxes. This is certainly something youll hear Hillary Clinton repeatedly attack donald trump over in the weeks ahead. The big question is if donald trump can spin this issue, which was a bombshell, no question about it, into his advantage as we get closer to that next debate. Chris . The question is how deeply under trumps skin does it get every time clinton says what kind of great businessman loses a billion dollars. Phil, thank you very much. Weve got this opportunity to have an interview with Vice President joe biden. He is very exercised about the election. He was banging on what matters for the middle class, why trump is wrong for this country, why he believes clinton is right for the country. Heres a taste. When you hear about situations where trump says hes smart for finding ways to use the tax law as is provided, it bothers you . I thought it was about making sure you did your part for your country. I grew up in a house where my father used to say and he never really made any real money. Theyd say, im paying this or that in tax money. Dad would say, its a small price to say. Since when does somebody who lives at the top of the world in a pent house overlooking the world feel no obligation to pay any federal income tax to support military, education, our Foreign Policy. Since when is that a patriotic thing to do. Can you imagine any other president , any other president to ever say that and be proud of that . I cant fathom of it. He says the law is what it is and you guys made the law the way it is and he knows how to work the system and thats why hes the right change agent. If you notice the change agent proposed, the change agent is what hes proposing in the tax cut would lock in all of those special interests for real estate folks and cut their taxes even more. This is all about trump. The vast majority of billionaires and multimillionaires, they pay their taxes. I mean, can you imagine warren buffet saying this . Can you imagine steve case saying this . Can you imagine any of these guys saying this . Its just offensive. Whats it say about all the people here, are they all suckers for paying their taxes because they cant hire a tax lawyer, because they couldnt make significant contributions to try to change the law to benefit themselves . Come on, man. Its just not right. Trump is making headlines for saying that those who avoid pts, post Traumatic Stress, are strong. Those who succumb to it therefore by implication are weak. What does that statement mean to you . This is an ignorant man. This guy says things he has no idea about. Hes not a bad man, but his ignorance is so profound, so profound. I had my staff contact the Defense Department every morning at 6 00 to tell me exactly how many troops are injured, exactly how many troops are wounded because every one matters. Its not 6,700 some. Its 6,753 deaths. Not 50, 53. Its 52,419 wounded and the number of people coming home with unseen injuries, post Traumatic Stress and traumatic brain injury is significantly higher. Whats this say about a guy who doesnt have any notion of that . Look at what these kids are going through. Look at the sacrifices theyre making. And look what they go to sleep dreading. I was asked to present a silver star to a young man who had jumped into a young commander who jumped into a burning humvee to pull out his buddy after it exploded and the kid died. He asked me to pin on a star. You know what the kid said to me . I dont want it. I dont want it. He did not live, sir. He did not live, sir. That kid probably goes to sleep every night with a nightmare and this guy doesnt understand any of that . How can he not understand that . How can he be so out of touch . Hes not a bad guy, but how can he be so out of touch and ask to lead this country . Wow. Great interview there. We will show more of it as well tonight. Senator tim kaine and governor mike pence will face off in the first and only Vice President ial debate. Whats at stake when they take the stage at longwood university, cnns Sunlen Serfaty is live for us. Good morning. Reporter good morning, alisyn. Both candidates taking a much more consistent, disciplined approach as they prepare for tonights debate. Certainly thats notable for mike pence who contrary to his own running mate, donald trump at the top of the ticket, seems to have engaged in a traditional, for formal debate prep. They have been studying up, hitting the books. Theyve been running through fullfledged mock debates using standins for the other opponent. Team pence going into tonight top on their mind do they have to play cleanup. Mike pence will be facing questions over Donald Trumps tax returns. Team kaine hoping to cash in on a little Home Field Advantage here in virginia tonight. We know they are looking to draw some ideological contrasts with mike pence up there on stage. Alisyn, each and every moment so important for both men tonight being this is their first and only debate. Sunlen, thank you very well all be watching obviously very closely. Joined now by brian fallen, press secretary for Hillary Clintons president ial campaign. Good morning, brian. Good morning. Great to be with you. Okay. So Hillary Clinton has been talking about Donald Trumps taxes ever since the New York Times had that revelation on saturday night that it is possible that he has not paid income taxes for the last 18 years. The problem, brian, is that many voters thinks it shows his strength, it shows him being crafty, it shows his business acumen. Weve talked to a lot of voters this morning as well as over the weekend who dont see this as a negative. Let me play some of their sound for you. I dont know anybody that checks the box under tax returns and says i want to pay twice as much as i have to. So i dont have a problem with it if it was done legally. Hes been audited every year apparently forever. I dont have a problem with it. To me it doesnt matter what his tax returns show. Its more about what kind of person he is. Politicians are more crooked than business men to me. So, brian, you heard them there. They dont have a problem with it. How doubro you know that talkin about this and taxes isnt actually working for trump . Well, look, alisyn, i think if weve seen one thing over the course of this campaign is that a lot of donald Trump Supporters are going to support him no matter what he says. I think with those critical persuadable voters that remain that both campaigns are fighting over, i think theyre going to be very troubled by what we learned over the weekend. First of all, we saw the scale of business failures that donald trump endured in the 1990s, something that hes clearly ashamed of. Its probably one of the big reasons why hes been keeping his tax return a secret, but more important than that, he was able to leverage those huge losses, 1 billion almost in one single year, into a huge mother of all tax writeoffs. I think if you look at all the ordinary people that were put out of work with those business failures that trump had in the early 1990s, to see all those contractors that he left holding the bag, i think that shows that hes the embodiment of the rigged system that he says hell fix. Heads he wins, tails he still wins. So he says hes going to fix this corrupt system, but theres no sign of that. The tax proposals hes putting forward would make this worse and further stacked in favor of people like donald trump. He wants to repeal, for instance, the estate tax which would provide his family with up to another 4 billion in tax savings. So i think this is going to be highly troubling to people the more they learn about it. Brian, lets talk about some vulnerabilities for Hillary Clinton. There is new cnn polling that shows weak spots. Lets look at the ohio poll, for instance. Donald trump is getting 47 to Hillary Clintons 42 . Are you confident, brian, that Hillary Clinton can win without ohio . Well, look, i think that there were a bunch of state polls that came out yesterday. A lot of them had Hillary Clinton ahead, but in all of them theyre tight including ohio. Ohio were very confident in the ground game we built there. We have more than 50 offices open. She was there yesterday campaigning in akron and doe lead d toledo. I think in the last week donald trump has given us more to talk about in terms of who truly represents working class voters in states like ohio. Not only did you learn that donald trump went potentially 18 years without paying any income taxes contributing nothing to our first responders, to our military, to our schools, but we also learned yesterday from a new report from newsweek his recent developments are made on chinese steel, not u. S. Steel. He howls and complains about all of the manufacturing jobs. Just like he outsources the production of his clothing lines. We learned he is sucker punching u. S. Manufacturing by going to china for his goods and materials that go into his construction projects. So i think that that is something that is going to resound in ohio. If you talk to somebody like senator brown, they campaign on these issues. I think rob portman would have a hard time defending Donald Trumps outsourcing practices. Speaking of working class voters, lets look at another possible point of vulnerability for secretary clinton because our new poll shows that she is struggling with the noncollege graduated white voters. She gets 37 let me look at this. She gets its on the screen. She gets 34 to his 55 . So, brian, why dont you think that shes speaking a message that is more that would resonate with them more effectively . Well, theres no question that thats one of the last b t bastians for the group. Hillary clinton is out performing barack obama and is out performing at a historic level when it comes to white voters with college degrees. I agree we are fighting over donald trump and Hillary Clinton are fighting over those voters that youre talking about. Thats why she was in ohio yesterday talking about these issues. I think at the end of the day when voters compare Hillary Clintons plans, which include wanting to raise the minimum wage. Donald trump is against that. Wanting to make investments in infrastructure, wanting to actually deal with this problem of outsourcing as opposed to donald trump who relies on chinese made steel and aluminum for his projects, i think theyre going to find that Hillary Clinton is the one that sides with them, stand up for them, not donald trump. Were learning more and more about his business practices. The more we learn it appears he doesnt stand with the working class voters. Brian fallon, spokesperson for hillary for america. Thanks so much for being with us. Thank you, alisyn. Meanwhile, Vice President ial nominees will face off tonight, 9 00 p. M. Eastern. Cnns debate coverage begins at 4 00. All right. The Trump Campaign coming off a tough week feuding with a former beauty queen, going after bill clinton and Hillary Clintons fidelity in their marriage. Now defending the New York Times tax bombshell. How does it recover . Trump Campaign Manager Kellyanne Conway joins us next live. 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Clinton has a five point advantage over trump. The numbers out this morning as the Trump Campaign continues to grapple with a tough week with this New York Times tax headline. Lets discuss a bunch of different facets of the campaign with trumps Campaign Manager Kellyanne Conway. Always good to have you on the show. Hi, chris. Lets talk about you for a second. I saw you on the view the other day. They were asking you about the dynamic with you and trump and machado came up, the beauty careen. I scolded trump for some of those comments. I thought that was an interesting choice of words because, one, no one scolds donald trump. They used that word in their headline. They used it as a representation . They did. They did. Did you have a moment with him . I never used that word. Look, i think donald trump is the best when he sticks to the issues. If that werent true, then Hillary Clinton would be talking about the issues. You have her husband, president bill clinton on the stump saying obamacare is a disaster. It hurts Small Businesses. Organized well. Not doing well. This mornings New York Times agrees with that. Hold on a second. I want to get some insight into the dynamic. If you dont like something that he says or if he is saying something, what is the dynamic in terms of shaping a candidate like you do with any of your other clients when youre working on the pollster side where you go to them and say, this works, this doesnt, heres what i would do. Can you do that with trump . Absolutely, and im heard and im listened to and im respected by him enormously. Hes the candidate. He will make his own decisions and the campaign will continue in his own words according to what he thinks is most important, but he takes my counsel and other peoples counsel very seriously. We have a fabulous relationship. I can see why, chris, he has employed thousands of women over the years and promoted women to some of the highest positions in the trump corporation. I can walk into trump tower right now and introduce you to women who have worked for him for years if not decades who thinks that he just draws out of them talents that they didnt skill sets that they didnt know that they had. Hes very gracious to them. Very generous. This is how i find him to be as a client and a boss. So these other incidents where he said things that are a reflection of poor character, are those outliers . Theyre cherry picked. Theyre very unfortunate because they dont show you the measure of the man. I dont know if its working for Hillary Clinton and heres why. In a new cnn news poll, she has 53 among women. 53 . She has tried everything she can to try to turn women her way and away from her opponent. 20 point lead. Its not quite that, but its not working. In other words, president obama carried women by double digits both times. Shes running as the first female president and shes not owning that with americas female voters. Whats holding them back . I think whats holding them back according to your earlier polls, you dont ask the questions, people dont trust her. They dont think shes honest. They dont like her. Shes out there attacking donald trump. What happened to that pivot we were promised a couple of weeks ago . Were going to switch to an aspirational, uplifting, optimistic campaign. Where in the world is that . In her lock box. Both campaigns bash the other side. Theres a reason both of these candidates are in the gutter with their likability. For different reasons. For different reasons. Tick through a couple of states. The tax thing. I agree with you, when it came out of the box, you follow the law when youre trying to pay taxes. I have an accountant, you have an accountant. There is or should be no suggestion that donald trump did anything illegal absent what we learned from the audit, which is basically up to him. The main hammer that youre getting hit with on this is how great a businessman can you be if you lost 1 billion. The New York Times says his loss that he recorded, all by himself, donald trump, represented 2 of all losses recorded for the entire industry. It seems to be like he distinguished himself by screwing up, not by being great. Whats the rebuttal. He distinguished himself by being great before that and after that. Hes the art of the comeback. As he said in colorado with an overflow crowd of thousands and thousands, he thinks this country needs a comeback. Many americans believe that. We can do better than wage stagnation, women in poverty. Hillary clinton, youve been there for 30 years, youre running as the first female president. How can you look at these women, you and your husband are worth a quarter of a billion, you earned that much anyway, and women are struggling and yet hes the one talking about the comeback. It depends what he did after that. As you say, its perfectly legal. Lets review here. Its a prevision thats been around since 1918. I didnt see president obama beat his chest and say, we need to get rid of this provision, especially when he had democrats in the house and senate for two years when he first got there. This has not been a priority for them. Its not been changed, reinforced. Thats right. Theres a reason for that. May i . Theres a reason for that. Its because this is america and we appreciate Business Owners and entrepreneurs and those who take risks. In the case of mr. Trump, brilliantly after that he absorbed those losses. By the way, its a loss. He absorbed those losses going forward. What did he do . He invested in new york when very few would not. He created thousands of jobs. There are many trump buildings where people live and people are in hotels and people eat in restaurants. In other words, he invested that. Its a Great American Success Story. One of the things that i think is going to deserve more attention is he says i get that the system is rigged in favor of people like me. I will change it. His current tax plan does nothing to disallow any of the things that he does with Carry Forward loss, operating losses or the ability to put away money and selffund retirement, capital gains. Not in any material way. Will he do that . Will he make good on his promise to change the system so trump cant keep doing this . First of all, president obama didnt have it as a priority. Trump said the reason you should pick me is i know the system. Hes had a great tax plan that we talked about on your show. Theres nothing in the tax plan that will fix what he does with net operating losses. Why not . This is his opportunity. Its been around for 100 years. Its not right. What he said is he knows how to leverage the tax system in a way that allowed him to absorb those losses in one year, 21 years ago. It moving forward created thousands of jobs, reinvest and have an amazing comeback. The man is an american Success Story and i think thats why hes in the hunt in these polls. I think its why hes going to win. Its a very simple race. Past versus future. Disrupted outsider versus consummate insider. Change washington versus benefit from washington. Thats the way people see this race. Look, his american Success Story was also shown on the apprentice which was the number one show back in its heyday when it was first on the air. People love that. They love that whole idea. Shark tank they love that idea. You can come up with an idea, fail, pick yourself back up and keep going. People appreciate that. The New York Times, chris, says in addition to this provision being 100 years old and other tax plans not being able to eliminate it, in the year of 1995 when mr. Trump absorbed this loss and carried it forward, 500,000 people did the same thing. He represented 2 of the over all amount. I mean, its massive. We have never seen someone take a loss that he did. He had a lot of advantages. Weve never seen anyone like donald trump. That is true. He is unique. Well end this interview on that. It will be interesting, kellyanne, to see if he makes good on his promise to make the system better. Hell make it better. Seven brackets to three brackets. Doesnt change this stuff thats why i bring it up. Stop paying good money for having to prepare their own taxes. In other words, simplify it in a way that americans are already hit with this large tax bill under obama and clinton, dont have to turn around and pay a tax preparer nobody will argue with simpler taxes. Yeah. Kellyanne, thats how long weve known each other. Great to have you on new day as always. Thank you. Alisyn, dated myself. No one else will date you. 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I bet he couldnt carry his bag 18 holes on one of his own golf courses, speaking of energy. But, look, i think the real issue here is can you imagine a president getting up at 3 30 in the morning and tweeting vitreole. I really mean this. He lacks any sensibilities about the American People. I just dont get it. He is so woefully uninformed on Foreign Policy its dangerous. People take it as strength, as speaking the way we do. He doesnt play those games that politicians play and they reward him or at least dont punish him for saying things that you find out of balance. Well, i think theyre now starting to focus, chris. This is getting deadly ernest. Every election people make up their mind later and later in the process, but now theyre beginning to focus. Theyre getting to see who this guy really is. I predict to you she will win and she will win clearly. He says that whatever you have been doing hasnt worked and put us in a situation now where people are more afraid than ever. He will put america first. They feel america is weak and he plays on that. It sent him to the top of the polls. Does that need to be respected by Hillary Clinton . Well, yes. The way to respect it is speak to that. Shes doing that. The fact of the matter is were still far and away the most respected country in the world. Number two, were in a situation where there are more American Companies coming home than going abroad. Theres been this megaphone out there about how bad off we are, how weak we are, how weak the military is, et cetera. Its simply not true. And the fact of the matter is, now people are beginning to focus. We didnt see that this was going to be about finding the center of america again and this definitional proposition in this race. Do you believe anybody can fight that fight as well as you . Well, im sure there are people. I dont know anybody that feels more passionately than i do, but i think if theres any one thing we havent communicated enough to the American People is theyre in trouble. Theyre scared. We dont speak to them enough. We dont let them know how much we respect them. We do all things that benefit them, but we dont speak to them. Trump, many of them, believe speaks to them. Yeah, they do, but they think he speaks to them because they havent listened to what hes saying. Much of it has been a negative attack on hillary and a failure to focus on what shes saying. Our job here is to get a focus on what really matters. Whats going to change the circumstance for middle class person. Its about being able to send your kid to a park, you know theyre going to come home safely. Be able to own your own home and not have to rent it. Be able to send your kid to a local high school, they get to college. If they get in, you can find a way to get them there. And in addition to that, be able to take care of your geriatric parent when the other passed away and never have to be taken care of yourself by your children. And what hillary feels, i know but she doesnt say enough, is she understands that when that kid doesnt get that loan to go to college, its not just, quote, the mind wasted, its that father or mother who looks at this telling the kid like my dad did. I remember i was trying to get to amherst. I got into a lot of schools, but amherst was the school i wanted to go to and they gave me grand and aid, division iii football, but it still wasnt enough. And i remember going down to see my dad where he worked. He ran an automobile agency, he didnt own it. I asked him the person who ran the show, mary, wheres dad . He said, out in the lane going into the service center. I walked out and my dad was pacing back and forth. This is a true story. He looked at me and said, ah, joe, im so sorry. I am so sorry. I said, whats the matter, dad . I thought before cell phones. I thought something happened to my family. He said, i went to the bank today. They wont lend the money to get you to school. Im so ashamed of myself. Im so ashamed. All those parents out there. All those parents out there. Its not just about the kid, its not about school, its about being able to meet the expectations of the children and not having a level Playing Field out there. Thats what this is about. I know hillary feels that, but every time she expresses emotion she gets clobbered, she gets clobbered. I know her. I know she cares. I think thats sort of at least i want to talk to those folks who are looking at trump and saying maybe hes the answer. He doesnt deliver anything. Were going to talk about the take aways from that biden interview in just a few moments. First, the east coast on high alert this morning. Were watching powerful Hurricane Matthew as it makes landful in haiti. We have the latest hurricane track for you. 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What you need to know is the lefthand turn that happened with the models overnight, that is a category 3 just off shore of florida. Or if you look at the cone, could be completely on shore. It could be making landfall in miami. Thats a possibility. Its also a possibility that it could be completely off shore, but what you need to know is that there will be heavy rain, there will be heavy wind. In that purple area through cuba and bahamas, theres a chance well see Tropical Storm or hurricane winds over the next 48 hours. Slighter chance but thats only because we get a little bit farther away from shore. Take a look at this. This is what haiti is going to be experiencing now for the next couple of hours. We are going to see such significant flooding here because the land is topographically high. 5,000 feet high. Youre going to put 25 inches of rainfall on a mountain, youre going to get flooding, landslides and youll see flooding. Thats scary. Thanks for keeping an eye on it for us. 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I think a lot of people have so much sympathy and compassion for joe biden as a dad whos gone through just an immeasurable loss in his life. And not just with bo but of course his his wife and daughter as well. I think, look, you look at this politically and say heres a guy who could be very effective against donald trump, theres no question about it, but hes not running and that happens in politics a lot. I think if youre Hillary Clinton, what you rely on is his testimony when he says to you, look, she cares, i know that. That doesnt make a difference. People have made a judgment. Joe biden cant change it. He can try to do his best where shes struggling. The rust belt may make a difference for her. She can focus on florida, like other sunbelt states. If he had gotten in the race, what would have been the big liability that people arent imagining right now . Because its always about, you know, the positive until youre in the race. What do you think people have to remember in an analysis of what would have happened if biden ran . Well, i think he would really wear the cloak of the obama years, the Foreign Policy of the obama years, obamacare. I think he would wear that a lot more strongly. Again, you have obama at 55 , so that wouldnt have been such a huge liability. I think biden can make an economic values against trump as he did to you more strongly than Hillary Clinton can. To whatever extent that is going to be effective, we dont know. This idea that hes out of touch as a rich guy, he didnt pay his fair share of federal taxes. You heard in our interview that biden makes that case in a much more compelling way as a candidate than Hillary Clinton, but, you know, liabilities about the obama years and just, you know, personal issues that i think would come up in the course of the campaign, the rough and tumble of the campaign that he shoots from the hip as well, we should say. Things that we cant predict. That he can be unpredictable. We also had on governor gary johnson whos running for president. Hes had some public Foreign Policy flubs of late where he didnt, for instance, know where aleppo was in syria. This morning he was fired up and he explained why those flubs shouldnt matter. Listen to this. I guess because you can you can dot the is and cross the ts on foreign leaders and geographic locations that now somehow youre qualified to put us in that situation . Hey, if that ends up to be the case, so be it. I guess i wasnt meant to be president. First of all, why is he yelling . Okay. Hes fired up. But if that were Hillary Clinton, people would say, why is she yelling . We should point that out about a mantha hes yelling because hes on a remote interview. What he said prior to that is were involved in a civil war. The criticism is that were not sufficiently involved in civil war and theres been carnage as a result. Gary johnson doesnt know the world. Foreign leaders and the scrutiny that he faces is symptomatic of what he doesnt know. I think some of the enthusiasm youre seeing for Hillary Clinton that is on the uptick is a sign that maybe Younger Voters who are still gravitating towards him might be moving away. However, theres enthusiasm for him as well. Hes had very crowded rallies. And his numbers in colorado are really strong. Hes a factor in a state like colorado and the west where he can do some damage to Hillary Clinton. Theres more work for her to do. I think the debates are important for her in that regard. The weakest part of her coalition remains Younger Voters. Unlike nader, he had a reason that went beyond his own candidacy. I dont care if i take from these people because this idea matters, whether it was Climate Change or being what is that with gary johnson . He has to live with whoever hes taken votes from at the end of the day. What makes it worth it for him . I wonder about that. I dont know. Third party system that he believes in. Yeah, but its that hes not trump or clinton. I dont think its enough. You have to be a viable third path. It could be enough with a certain segment of voters. Nader got 4 . He could do better than that. Gregory. Thank you. You bet. How about a little good stuff next. Credit karma huh . Yeah, its free. Credit karma. Give youself some credit. Sharing a ten by ten room,ng threestruggling. Nding, i rent this place and then i started home sharing. My roommates help out all the time. They are glad to meet the guests and that opportunity that airbnb has given me is such a priceless gift. I was able to take three months off to take car of my family during a family tragedy. The extra income that i get from airbnb has been a huge impact in my life. My name is jamir dixon and im a locafor pg e. Rk fieldman most people in the community recognize the blue trucks as pg e. My truck is something new. Its an 811 truck. 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The New York Times released some of Donald Trumps old tax returns which they say were leaked by someone inside trumps camp. Ohhhhhh. Or as trumps lesser known daughter tiffany put it, want to Pay Attention to me now, dad . That was the year he was married to marla maples, tiffanys mother. Even i got the lebron james joke so that means it was a good one. Thats good. All right. Thanks so much for watching us on new day. Well see you tomorrow. Time now for newsroom with Carol Costello. Good morning, carol. Youre a funny lady, alisyn. Thanks, carol. Have a great day. Newsroom starts now. And good morning. Im Carol Costello live from farmville, virginia, where in a matter of hour tim kaine and mike pence square off fighting not just for themselves but their ticket. Thank you so much for joining us this morning. The cruel reality of Vice President ial politics, kaine and pence cant win many votes tonight but they can certainly lose them. Neither ticket can afford that in a race this close. 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