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Officers in riot gear deploying tear gas, setting off flash. Throwing Water Bottles and rocks at the officer os, injuring at least a dozen. Protesters moving to a local walmart. Video shows them attempting to break in, but running when s. W. A. T teams arrive. The citizens have a legitimate concern and their concern shouldnt be taken lightly. Reporter the clashes breaking out following the Fatal Shooting of a black man, keith l lamont scott. They arrived at a complex to serve another individual when they encountered scott who they say was armed. Make some imminent threat to them and because of that at least one officer fired rounds at the suspect. Reporter the officer that shot scott is also a black male, according to local reports, now placed on administrative leave. But protesters are out in full force, questioning when will black lives truly matter . A terrorist, new jersey, new york, he was taken alive. They say they wanted to question him. So because of you wanting to question him, does his life mean more than our black men across the nation . A lot of frustration. The charlottes mayor promising a full investigation into what happened at that apartment complex. The investigation, though, just beginning and we expect to learn more at a news contrance lafere this morning. Charlottes mayor calling for calm. Protesters also taking to the street in tulsa, oklahoma, after Police Released video of a Deadly Police shooting of an unarmed black man. Hundreds gathering in front of the Police Headquarters there last night. Theyre calling for the firing of the officer who killed Terence Crutcher, a 40yearold father of four. Ana cabrera is live in tulsa with more. Ana . Chris, protesters here want to see the officer involved arrested. Now, that depends on the outcome of the local Police Criminal investigation, but there is also a separate civil rights investigation into this case. The department of justice opening its investigation after seeing the video of what happened. Police video shows the moments before 40yearold Terence Crutcher is shot and killed by a tulsa Police Officer. From this dash cam video and a Police Chopper hes got his hands up for us now. Reporter you can see crutcher with his hands up. Tulsa Police Officer betty shelby follows with her gun drawn as crutcher steps back from his suv in the middle of the road. Three other officers respond, standing between crutcher and the dash cam video. But in the helicopter video, it appears crutcher drops at least one of his hands when he gets to his vehicle. But you dont see what crutcher is doing as he is shot. The helicopter is circling around at that moment. That looks like a bad dude, too. Reporter crutcher falls to the ground. Just been tasered. Shots fired. Reporter shot and tased. There was no gun on the suspect or in the suspects vehicle. Reporter shelbys attorney said she didnt know that. Crutcher was not responding to shelbys questions and ignored multiple commands. Police now say the drug pcp was found inside of crutchers car. Attorneys for the crutcher family say theyre looking into that, but say no matter what, police mishandled this situation. Did him being a big black man play a role in her perceived danger . No, him being a large man perceived a role of her being in danger. She worked in this part of town for quite some time. And, you know, just the week before she was at an allblack High School Homecoming football game. Shes not afraid of black people. Reporter shelby is now on paid administrative leave. While police and shelbys attorney said crutcher was reaching in the window of the car when she fired, video of the incident appears to show the drivers window is closed. That looks like a bad dude, too. That big, bad dude was my twin brother. That big, bad dude was a father. That big, bad dude was a son. That big, bad dude was enrolled at Tulsa Community college. Just wanting to make us proud. Now, the family is calling for Police Accountability in this case. Were also seeing a swell on social media joining the call for Police Officers to be held accountable nationwide with everybody from politicians to sports stars weighing in on this issue using the terencecrutcher. The local police chief jordan vowing to have a transparent and very thorough investigation saying, we will achieve justice, period. Chris, alyison. Thank you for all that reporting. Joining us now Terence Crutchers family. Also with us is their attorneys Benjamin Krupp and ben simmons. Were so sorry for your loss. Mrs. Crutcher, have you watched the video of what happened to your son . Once. What do you see in that video . I see terence walking toward his suv with his hands raised high over his body and then all of a sudden he falls to the ground. Yeah. We can imagine how painful it is to be watching those moments. Reverend crutcher, how do you explain what you see in that video . The video was released, i think, on sunday and the first time i was able to watch it was on monday. And i lost it. Its the most devastating thing that has ever happened to me in my life. Of course. Mr. Krupp, the police say that terence. They believe terence was reaching for something in the car when they shot him. I know you have said that you can prove thats not true. In fact, at a press conference, you held up a photo that you say showed he couldnt be reaching for something. Watch this moment. It is very clear even when we just try to bring attention to simply the window. You can see that it is completely up and there is blood going almost to the top of the window. So, mr. Krupp, you think that that evidence shows that the window was up. He couldnt have been reaching for anything. The police say he wasnt following their commands. What do you think was going on in those final moments . I think the police are trying to figure out a way to justify blaming Terence Crutcher for his own death, alyison. When you look at that video, dont take our word for it. You can slow it down. We have technical experts that can enhance the video. And it clearly shows and im sorry for this, but there is a streak of blood coming down from the window, coming down on the car and then coming to where his body is resting with his hands up still and it shows that it all is contemporaneous. Look at that video. All the evidence we need. We need not to consider anything else but all our eyes show us. Tiffany, you and terence are twins. Were watching aerial footage right here of police in a helicopter who were over the scene and there are snippets of audio of that chopper pilot and the other officer. And i just want to play a second of that for you and for our viewers of what they were saying. Hes got his hands up for us n n now. Theres more. Im going to have to record it. This guys still walking and following commands. Time for taser, i think. Thats about to happen. It looks like a bad dude, too. Tiffany, when he says that looks like a bad dude, too. What do you see and hear . I hear someone who is paid to protect and serve us prejudging my brother. He didnt know my brother at all. And i have so many friends who are officers of the law and they stand with us and they say thats not representation of who our Public Servants are supposed to be. And it just validates what weve been angry about. What weve been confused about. What we have been heard about. He looks like a bad dude. What does that say to you . It says anyone that is big in statue stat statueer they criminalize or demonize or say, hey, were going to get you. I mean, im really sad and i have friends who have young boys and theyre afraid to go to drivers ed. They dont want drivers license and theyre afraid and that saddens me. You want them to know that your brother was not a bad dude. He was a father and a brother and a son. He was all of that. Last night i think love and support from people all around the world from all different backgrounds, all different cultures and one that really broke me down and really touched my heart was one of his professors at Tulsa Community college tterence was in his clas last fall and he never missed a class and just talked about his children and his last report was on christianity and i lost it. That big, bad dude mattered. And yet, mr. Krupp, police say he wasnt following their instructions. Maybe they told him to stop or get down. They said thats what caused them concern. To either of you that he wasnt following instructions. Police would have said, get down, dont go to your car. Why didnt he follow instructions . We dont know what was said because no audio. But we have a video that does not have a yrterrier motive. Terence has his hands up in the air and moving in a very slow and deliberate manner. We see very clearly on the video that terence never made a sudden Movement Towards the officers or on the side of the video. When he was shot, the officers were not in any imminent harm. It was broad daylight and no justification for this use of excessive force. The police say that they found the drug pcp inside the car. Do you believe them . We dont know what they found in the car. We will take it at their word because they got all the quote unquote evidence in their custody. They say theyre going to be transparent. This is an opportunity for the leadership to be transparent so they can build a trust with this Tulsa Community that could be an example for communities all over america, alyison. We saw what happened in charlotte and to tamir rice in cleveland. When youre not transparent and the community feel they cannot trust you, then we have terrible things that happen in our communities. Would that change the equation for you if there were pcp in the car and if that meant that somehow he was debilitated by having taken the drug somehow. Alyison, you look in that video and nothing in that video justify them using excessive legal force on them. If were going to start declaring the death sentence to anybody that has drugs in their system, theyre going to go to a lot of communities. Not just our communities. Tiffany, you and your brother, youre twins, as i said. You just celebrated your 40th birthday a month ago and on that day he told you that he was looking forward to the future and what his plans were. Yes. He told me he was excited about the future. Excited about starting school. I have a final text message, the very last one where he told me that he loved me. I told him that i loved him and he said, god is going to get the glory out of my life in that text message. And were a family of faith and we know that all things Work Together for the good. If any good comes out of this, if any good could come out of this, were hoping that a miracle will open their eyes. Everybody and see that there is an issue. A systemic issue that needs to be solved and were pleading with the leadership of this country. Everyone to just see that and lets put some systems in place to prevent this from happening, again. Yet, reverend crutcher, you wake up this morning and there are protests in charlotte, north carolina, because theres been another incident, not the same, this man police say did have a gun, but he was sitting in his car. These are the protests youre waking up to this morning of another incident. What are your thoughts when you see this continuing to happen . Its adjust continuation of the same thing. Over and over and over again. And its perpetuated against people of color more than anything else. If it would have been in the reverse caucasian totally different because records that indicate and show that this situation wouldnt have happened if that would have been a caucasian. And if the circumstances were in reverse, terence would have been charged immediately. Mrs. Crutcher, how are terences kids doing . Well, they are doing the best that they can do at this present time. Whats breaking my heart is that his youngest son, we call him little terence asked me the day before yesterday, wheres my dad . Because he hadnt seen him, you know, in a couple of days. In his mind, hes wondering whats going on. So, we told him because we are people of faith that dad went to heaven. And that kind of satisfied him for the moment. Because he knows dad is in a good place. Hillary clinton talked about your case. She called it intolerable to see Something Like this. What do you think that this is now a National Conversation about what happened to your son . Well, it should be talked about. People should be discussing it. And we need to come to some type of way of making this right. Getting justice, for not only terence but for all those killings across our country. Mr. Crump, we have talked to you, sadly, too many times about cases like this. Youve covered and have been involved in many of them. Why is this one making you so emotional . Its very, very hard to watch that video, alyison. Anybody in america with a heart who watches that video knows that this causes tension in your soul. And what dr. King said is that peace is not the absence of tension, its the presence of justice. So for what happened in cleveland, what happened in stanford and what happened in staten island, all these things that were on video, lets make sure we have justice here to heal this country. This is on video. There is no looking away from this. Theres no trying to blame the victim in this particular case because we silt with our eyes, alyison. Our thoughts with all of you. 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Lendingtree. When banks compete, you win. More on our breaking news this morning two communities protesting Deadly Police shootings that killed black men. Violent protests in charlotte overnight. Demonstrators taking an interstate and setting fires and blocking the roadway. Here to discuss this, as well as many other issues is senator chris and also on the Senate Committee of foreign relationship senator, thanks so much if being here. I know you just heard that interview with the crutcher family. How do you explain we see too many of these, of black men being shot after what is supposed to be a routine traffic stop, in this case, his car had broken down. He was actually looking for help and in the space of just a few minutes, hes killed. Thats right, alyison. This is, sadly, another chapter in what has been a whole series of tragic shootings that, i think, the Africanamerican Community and americans concerned about justice find unacceptable. And where hearings we held on the Judiciary Committee and actions that the Justice Department has taken has not yet made a significant difference. This is a question and no small part about Police Training and policies and how deadly force is used. Ive been here in new york to the United Nations meetings. It was striking how quickly and how well the fbi expedited rahamis bomb attacks and one of the most painful things i heard was he was taken in for custody. How come when someone like Terence Crutcher end up dead. That is an interesting lens to look at it. From the police perspective, if someone is not following commands. They said they found pcp in his car. Which may contribute somehow to his not following commands. What are police supposed to do in that situation . One of our challenges nationally is to put this in perspective. 3 Million People in Law Enforcement across the country. The percentage of Law Enforcement officers who are involved in the use of deadly force is a very, very small percentage and the percentage of those cases that end up on National News after a tragedy is exceptionally small. If you dont have good training and if we dont have thorough and transparent investigations and there isnt justice in cases that turn out to have been bad shootings where officers made a tragic mistake, then the trust that the Africanamerican Community and our country is understandably justifiably eroded. A failure not to take the next step and thats pretty obvious. Often the federal government gets a pass on this because policing is a state and local issue. But, thats not entirely true. There is no National Database of accounting for these kinds of shootings. Thats right. With all the things that the federal government decides to stick its nose into which is arguably irrelevant, if not redundant. This, who is stopping the federal government from coming together and having a National Database just to track the shootings . Right. Im a cosponsor of legislation that would create just such a database. Whais stoppio is stopping it . Responsible changes in terms of background checks and studies and accounta

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