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confederate war memorial in 2007. it now stands directly in front of the state house. it's the first thing you see when you walk up. south carolina and other states are debating what to do about this. ana kacabrera is here with me. >> allison, this really is so much more than about a flag. it's about racism and getting rid of a symbol that to so many represents a racist mentality that is part of this country's roots unfortunately. so what we're seeing are more and more calls to get that flag down. but it does still fly right here in front of the state capital. so the fight isn't over yet. >> it shouldn't fly anywhere. >> presidential hopeful hillary clinton applauding the bid for the removal of the confident flag in south carolina. >> recognizing it as a symbol of our nation's racist past that has no place in our present. >> hundreds of protesters demanded the flag be removed in the wake of the vicious murders at the emanuel ame church here in charleston. >> our leaders are fighting to continue to keep human beings as slaves. >> south carolina lawmakers overwhelmingly allowing debate on a bill to do just that. all except ten lawmakers digging in their heels voting against it and ten who did not vote. william chumley says -- >> we need to be focusing on the nine families. >> the confederate flag may soon be no more. in mississippi where the confederate battle flag is a part of the official state flag the speaker of mississippi's state house is calling for it to be removed. georgia now weighing a redesign of state sponsored sons of confederate veterans license plates featuring the flag. but north carolina and virginia and tennessee are already saying they're supporting pulling the plates from production entirely. this as ebay amazon and walmart are banning the flag from their shelves. it's still unclear when lawmakers will take up the legislation regarding removing the flag. we talked with one representative who has sponsored one version of the bill to remove the flag. he tells us they're likely to focus on this issue after 4th of july. today it's about the victims. clementa pinckney will be lying in state inside the rotunda this afternoon. >> it's been a very emotional week here obviously and today will be no different as he lies in state there. thanks ana for all of that background. we want to go back to new york now for some other stories. >> we're going to take a look at what happened when the cops caught up to the charleston terrorist after all. what do we see? what do we learn? >> reporter: the video shows how calm and cooperative dylann roof was hours after police say he killed nine people. >> confirmed it is the suspect from the charleston shooting. >> reporter: newly released foot age age from dash cams give a fuller picture of the moments leading up to the capture of accused south carolina mass killer dylann roof. >> white male traveling westbound. >> police were on the lookout for roof after the killing of nine people inside the historic african american church last wednesday. the next day, in north carolina some 250 miles away received a tip from a woman driving to work saying she spotted roof partly because of his hair. the officer then called 911. >> i know it's strange but i just got a call on my personal cell phone. a lady called a friend of mine and said she was behind the car matching the description of the charleston killer. it had a south carolina tag on it white male early 20s with a bowl haircut. >> reporter: the video shows police closing in ending the 14-hour manhunt. you can see the moment police order roof to step out of the vehicle placing his hands on the top of the car. roof was checked for weapons but none were found on his body. a search of the car revealed roof was traveling with a glock semiautomatic handgun on the back seat. >> reporter: officers found that gun on the back seat underneath a pillow suggesting roof spent a night in the car following the shooting. meanwhile, a source tells cnn that roof purchased that weapon at a gun store in west columbia south carolina not far from where he lived. >> thanks so much for all of that background. we want to bring in now congressman james flyburn. he knew all of the victims of this massacre. thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> we're so sorry for your loss. you were close friends with five of the victims. >> yes, i was. mrs. middle donton doctor her father was one of his closest friends. he was an elder in the ame church. and i will be speaking this saturday at the service of cynthia hurd. he was she was one of my daughter's best friends, a librarian like my wife. it's going to be tough for me on saturday. >> to lose so many friend and so many people in this community in one horrible massacre. it's really obviously impacted permanently the town of charleston. what do you think about what's happening today where senator clementa pinckney will be lying in state here. and governor nikki haley, there is a legal loophole where temporarily she could take down this flag that flies over our shoulder. is that important to do today? >> i think it is. i would say to the governor and everybody else there is precedence for this. bob mcneal when he was governor took the flag down one time. when he was called on it he said it was being taken down for repairs. so i would hope that would happen here today as well. >> what do you say to the 73% of south carolina -- this was a poll last year 2014. a poll has not been taken since the massacre. back then they felt that it was a part of the state's history and that the flag didn't need to come down or be removed from in front of the state capital. what do you say to those people? >> it is a part of the state's history. nobody's arguing that point. it's a symbol of a time in our history that all of us have been trying to get beyond. we have all kinds of symbols here in the museum that's a part of our history. i don't object to us having slave shanties in the proper perspective, but not on the state house grounds. this symbol belongs in a museum. i know the history of this flag probably as well as anybody. >> so is the history about people's ancestors that fought proudly for what they believed in? or is it something more painful? >> it's about my ancestors who served as slaves and this flag was used as a symbol to preserve that legacy for the state. there are two sides to this flag's history, but none of it is south carolina's history. this is the flag of northern virginia that's flying over here now. that was robert e. lee's flag. the interesting thing is nobody in northern virginia or anywhere in virginia celebrate their flag. so why are we doing so in south carolina? i would hope that south carolina would really study the flag and find out it's just as erroneous to our history as it is to our heritage. >> governor nikki haley's spokesperson said outside groups can reject the flag but here in the state she was comfortable with it flying. she said removing it was not part of the governor's agenda. this week she felt very differently. she said unequivocally the flag should come down. how do you believe she so quickly came to this new position? >> i think that all of us mature in our offices. it is best for an elected official to grow into the office than to try to bring the office down to them. i think she's grown into the office and i congratulate her for it. >> yesterday the general assembly here decided that they would take up the measure of the flag they would debate it at some point this summer. they weren't scheduled to come back until the end of the year. but they said they would come back this summer. can you imagine if there's a july 4th decision about this flag? >> absolutely i could imagine that. i wouldn't have a week ago. but i can imagine that today. >> two-thirds -- it needs to be passed in both claimhambers by two-thirds. do you think that it will pass and that this flag over our shoulder will be moved? >> i think it will pass. now there's a way to get around the two-thirds. >> why? >> because we should repeal that heritage act. because if we only remove that flag from here and allow it to continue to fly, allow it considering all these other things that continue to take place in cities and towns all over this state, that will be a half victory. we should go all the way, get rid of this heritage act and let's march into the future together. >> people say that realistically this is just a symbol. if this flag comes down then what happens to race relations? >> those two flags on top of the state house, the united states flag stars and stripes, palmetto state flag those are the symbols, but they're the kind of symbols that bring honor to our existence. >> thank you so much. we'll give you a look at some more news stories and we'll go back to south carolina a little bit later. two convicted killers are still on the loose in upstate new york but could face new challenges in evading police footwear. one of the convicts may be barefoot after leaving a pair of boots behind at a cabin where dna from richard matt and david sweat was found. >> reporter: good morning. officials here are hoping for better weather today. it's been raining over the past few days and a source told us yesterday that it's been slowing down the investigation. we're being told more about joyce mitchell's involvement. she admitted to hiding hacksaw blades inside that chunk of frozen hamburger meat. she convinced the guard gene palmer to pass that meat through without going through a metal detector. palmer is on leave. his attorney says that joyce mitchell duped him into doing that. she tried to gain favors for those inmates by offering baked goods to coworkers of hers. at one point she even asked that david sweat's cell be moved next to richard matt's. the terrain is to difficult to move in especially without shoes on it's likely he wouldn't have gotten very far after breaking into that cabin. we are expecting officials here to hold a press conference at noon. we will bring it to you live on cnn. happening hours from now the marathon bomber is going to be formally sentenced to death. the question is will he break his silence? >> reporter: chris, dzhokhar tsarnaev absolutely has the choice if he wants to make a statement before he is sentenced to death row by a judge. the judge will let him know which prison he will be sent to live out his final days or even years if there is an appeal. so far his lawyers have filed a number of papers under seal. it's not clear whether any of them constitute a formal appeal. there's a concern by his attorneys that could jeopardize the process. as for me morse, well, he sat through 150 witnesses and never seemed to shed any sort of tear or show any emotion. we are expecting about two dozen victims and family members to speak for about two to five minutes each. they will include the family of eight-year-old martin richard. i spoke to one woman today, a survivor. she said a loet of people do feel the need say something to address tsarnaev to address the judge. >> a lot of emotion i'm sure they're all feeling. we send our best thoughts to them to be sure. the white house today expected to announce a change to its tough hostage policy that will affect families of hostages and how they deal with captors. >> reporter: this is in part due to the response the administration has received from family member who is have said that the administration's response has been insensitive, inconsistent and appalling at times. president obama will meet with the families of u.s. hostages today here at the white house and he'll tell them directly these changes the white house will announce among them they will now no longer threaten the families who choose to pay private ransoms to get their loved ones back. it gives the government more leeway to negotiate with terrorist organizations. for some families, these changes will just not go far enough. the wife of warren weinstein he was held by al qaeda and killed earlier this year. she said of the administration's support, quote, the information we received over three and a half years was inconsistent at best and utterly disappointing. our bench marchmark for this success will be the actions that arise from it. some on capitol hill are already slamming this calling it pathetic. they will call for an independent director to oversee this. >> let's see if that actually happens. in other news french president says he will not tolerate threats to the nation's security. that's after a wiki leaks report saying the nsa spied on him. meanwhile, the white house says it isn't spying on the president and won't in the future. >> i want to ask a question to all of you, have you ever sent a regrettable e-mail? fear not. you can now get it back if you are fast enough. google announcing a wider roll-out of the undo send feature on gmail. already been available to some users. it allows you to take back an e-mail. you have to do it quickly. you have a 30 second window at most. i don't want to ask this of anybody specifically on this set, but do you think there's anybody that might ever find that feature useful chris? >> i generally act out of anger. >> no you don't. >> i think the real concern is the reply all when i mean to just reply to you. >> should we give a call to google and ask them to work on that next for us? >> 30 second is not enough because everything happens instantaneously now. >> that's so true. now we have to figure out how to undo the tweet in 30 second. we've got new information for you in the manhunt on richard matt and david sweat, leads, revelations. the question is how do they keep staying a step ahead of police? the average person will probably eat something or drink something that is acidic on a daily basis. those acids made over time wear the enamel. a lot of patients will not realize what's happening to the enamel. once it's gone it's gone away for good. i recommend pronamel. it's designed specifically to help strengthen the teeth. pronamel will actually help to defend the enamel from the acids in our diet. if you know that there is something out there that can help why not start today? 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>> maybe he would have come across another pair of shoes up there. >> the better question is why do these guys seem a step ahead? is that a fair reprize alezreprizal or -- >> even though that dna was found in a cabin, you can't really determine how long ago it was left there. coupled with the sighting of someone running from the cabin, how many people would have been up there running from that cabin. i think time is on law enforcement's side. law enforcement has the advantage with time right now. obviously, you've got challenges with the environment, the wooded area and so son. it it's going to set back the time a little bit. >> i think those challenges may be somewhat underestimated. we have the sheriff up there who's the custodian of joyce mitchell. he's like we've got a thousand people up here. but no professional trackers. no hunters from that area are involved. why not? why wouldn't you call on those local and professional assets to help with terrain that you don't know? >> these trackers -- i guess -- i'm only assuming. >> do they ever use that kind of resource? he said we don't want some of these thousand law enforcement guys come upon someone they don't know and something bad happen. you could just give them a vest that says sheriff on it or something. >> my suspicion is they don't want to put them in harm's way. you could probably use them as consultants at least to assist on the search. that would be a tactical decision by the tactical commanders up there. >> joyce mitchell the employee who was definitely involved with these guys by her owned a mission, says i gave them hacksaw blades in frozen chunks of meat. big shocker there is these guys get to cook their own food. yes, in their segregated housing they were in that was one of the privileges. and she gave it to a guard and she didn't think he knew what she was giving them. how does it work this guy who's a corrections officer takes a big piece of meat and doesn't think about it? >> what i know about that dannemora and that area up there, the prisoner population counts towards the town population of 5,000 people. sounds like i think 1400 people from the town work in the prison. it's fair to say a lot of them probably know one another. and for whatever reason -- it's just an assumption. >> familiarity bred a little bit of laxity there on his side. oh she was giving baked goods to security guards all the time to get favors. if that was so well known, you know, that this kind of stuff was going on why didn't the people who need to know that kind of stuff know it and crack down on it? does this go to the kind of forgiveness of things that you allow just to keep the peace inside? >> that's the million dollar question i think, right here. how did she get away with playing all of these people? just from accounts that are out there even moving their cells around and things like that you would think that would be funneled up the food chain. >> right? you made a good point. when they catch these guys if they put them back in this prison which is likely boy, are they going to be hated. you might think they'd be celebrated because they made it on the outside for a while. but so many of their privileges are going to be gone. they're not going to be cooking anymore. john thank you so much. >> thanks. >> not to mention the prison guard will be looking at them with a lot more scrutiny. donald trump surging in the polls. new numbers show a surprising boost. when broker chris hill stays at laquinta he fires up the free wifi with a network that's now up to 5 times faster than before! so he can rapidly prepare his presentation. and when he perfects his pitch, do you know what chris can do? 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>> i think a lot of it is name recognition right now. clearly here in new hampshire trump is connecting with some people. they love the fact that he just cuts right to the chase, says whatever's on his mind. they're tired of all the political maneuvering they see with all the other candidates. it's really important to remember that donald trump has a ceiling that the other sand dates don't have in the sense that everyone knows him, they know what they're getting. there aren't a lot of people out there sort of experiencing him for the first time the way they are with other candidates. he's a really disruptive force in this race because he takes up so much oxygen. >> with the discount effect with the taking of oxygen w the direction, take the other side chris moody. why isn't he legit? he's got the big name. he's got the money. and he's number two in a place where they take this very seriously. why isn't he legit? >> mave is right about it being ap a ceiling. i think donald trump is going to be a problem in the short-term for candidates that are not doing well in the polls that need time on the debate stage in order to get their name out there. sitting senators and governor who is might not make the cut, the polling threshold to get on that debate stage, it's a really catch 22. in donald trump lasts all the way to the new hampshire primaries he's going to be a problem for the candidates that are putting all their eggs in that basket. if it comes down to jeb bush and donald trump, that could knock off a guy like christie. that's assuming donald trump has interest in getting all the way to election day. >> one important thing to remember is that donald trump is going to have to file his financial disclosure form. i think the big question that we're all waiting to see because he's played with us many times. if he has to lay out all of h iz finances under penalty of perjury and tell us about his business deals in the past is he going to stick it out or is it a publicity stunt? >> a lot of his things are privately held things you value. this isn't the irs he's giving it to. it would be the f.e.c. with what we saw going on in south carolina marco rubio, definitely legit. he waffled on this. he said it's a state issue. if issues like that keep coming up and you have a trump out there that says take the flag down this is silly, do you think that kind of approach may start to persuade team that are tired of this game everybody else plays? >> i think that it can, you know really force the other candidates to come out and talk about issues that they don't want to talk about. as we saw with the confederate flag and also just push them into discussions they don't want to be having certainly on the debate stage. but really across the board, i mean he does have a way of getting under people's skin and forcing them to talk about issues that republicans don't really want to talk about right now. >> did you see what happened with dr. carson on the show this morning? he lays out this very cogent case about why you must confront issues that are uncomfortable. you must see what happened in charleston as a hate crime because that racism must be confronted even if it's difficult, even if it reminds people the confederate flag symbol is ugly for many. i asked him, well what do you think about the gay rights flag being compared to the confederate? and he says i'm not going to talk about it. maybe another day. donald trump, you think he ducks that question? >> it's really interesting. last week before south carolina governor nikki haley came out with her stance against the confederate flag i talked to a number of republican candidates and none of them could take a concrete stance on it. it was only this week they would come out and say they wanted to take it down. it is fascinating how it took them a while to come up with an idea about this or build up the courage to take a stand without nikki haley saying something. >> am i exaggerating the currency of donald trump? of course i am. are these guys more astute on these issues? of course they are. that's why we're in the segment together. thanks to both of you. the election is just around the corner. moody may still have that tie on. anything can happen. 502 days left. we'll keep talking about this as things become relevant. what do you think about the donald and why he's popular right now? 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we're always a day late and a dollar short. really? you just arrived at this? >> what do you make of all the republican candidates not wanting to discuss it? >> i love that state's rights stuff. it's not a state right's thing. it's tough [ bleep ] to put it simply. >> which is latin for issues you must deal with. >> there are people against the idea of taking it down saying we're proud south carolina. this is our heritage. it should stay up. response? >> you're able to keep it for a long time and really great and now it's time to move on okay? like everybody has said, you put knit it in a museum where it belongs. you can have it in your house. if it's that important, put it over the fireplace. stare at it. wake up and look at that marvelous flag. >> i feel like you're being sarcastic about that. what did you make of the reactions coming out of the charleston? all blacks victims, so obvious to everybody there's push-back from part of the base on the right saying why do you have to make everything about race? why are you calling it terrorism? we know who really the terrorists are. all those points are pushed back in a situation that should have been so painfully obvious. >> i think once again you have him brought in -- that woman forgives him. that's the defining moment of all of this. that's the stunning moment that we have in time. and then you've got this idiot. walked in hung out with them shoots them. you think it's a christian hate crime? there's a ton of white churches he could have wandered into. he's sitting there with a rhodesian flag on his chest. i haven't thought about rhodesia in 20 years. it's the summer and it's time for fun. donald trump has got 11% in new hampshire. you know how many people that is? it's 12. 12 people. it's new hampshire. it's june. they've been out on the docks. the sun is up. they're liquoring up. who are you voting for? trump! we have to keep this stuff -- at what point do we learn the election cycle never ends. >> it's 502 days away. >> is that what it is? >> you want to know how many hours? >> you've got to really literally let them do what they do. let them wander around. there's no reason -- i know it's going to cost a lot of political pundits money. but let them do what they do. let them just do it and then in september when they've at least kind of got the wheat and the chaff somewhat separated, let them pull the punches then. >> you represent anger in this film. i saw this film yesterday. i went with a room full of third and fourth graders, which is probably the ideally the group it's aimed at. this is actually a really smart, heady, instructional film. >> i say things about this film i never say about anything. and you feel odd saying it because you watch hundreds of people come on and talk about their films. boy, you've got to see this one. boy, you're going to really learn about aircraft carriers. my feeling is this is a film that when i was a kid i wish i'd seen. because if i'd seen this film i wouldn't be the voice of anger, okay? i would have probably balanced out my emotions. >> it's really passion. i didn't know there were five emotions. >> we have disgust, fear anger, joy and sadness. >> i mean my reach is anger in all of those. i think he's usually not angry enough about things. >> this came to you some five years ago. this shows you how much effort they put into this. five years ago you got a phone call about this film. >> i they called and said do you want to do a pixar -- i said yes. it was a year until i went out and worked with them. and then i started to see what they were doing. and it was another six months and then i went back out again. it's the only time that you ever experience the entirety of the creative process is by being involved in a pixar film. >> how often were you angry in the process -- >> no. they have a good lunch. they have the greatest lunch in america. >> look you have to see "inside out." it's fantastic. it's not one of those films you have to sit through with your kids. you'll really enjoy it. it's great. as if we needed it coming up next the good stuff. it will not make you angry. only t-mobile has america's best unlimited 4g lte family plan. 2 lines of unlimited 4g lte data for a 100 bucks a month. need a phone with that? 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