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>> no question about it. polo thank you. we will have new york's governor on the show coming up so stick with us. today is the second day of the g7 summit. the war on isis is the main focus. there's pressure on vladimir putin. president obama rallying world leaders against russia's continued and deadly aggression in ukraine. we have jim acosta on the scene in austria. what are you seeing in terms of the balance of isis and what's going on in ukraine? >> reporter: chris, those are the two big issues on the agenda for the g7 summit. half the time on ukraine, half the time on isis. president obama's most critical meeting today is with a leader who isn't part of the g7. the iraqi prime minister. he wrapped up a chat with the powerful world leaders. he is here to seek more military assistance. senior officials say don't expect big announcements on that front. the president has a diplomatic goal in mind, to ease tensions with the prime minister after defense secretary told cnn he questioned the iraqis will to fight. administration officials know that comment deeply upset the iraqis. there's more than iraq on the agenda here. the president hopes to leave the g7 summit with the leaders showing unity obtaining sanctions for actions in ukraine. german chancellor angela merkel david cameron, a few moments ago, the french president. michaela i am told at the conclusion of the summit a joint statement condemning them in ukraine, saying the sanctions are going to stay in place until pu putin changes his actions. >> the support the u.s. is providing to the iraqi forces. do you expect that conversation to get heated today? >> reporter: i don't know if it will get heated. keep in mind, they need each other very much. without u.s. air strikes, his security air forces on the ground are really going to be out of luck. you know the white house is frustrated with the irk kiiraqis no question about it. defense secretary ash carter said what he said. administration officials, if you talk to them privately, they say, listen the president is not going to disavow the comments of his secretary but during the bilateral meeting with the iraqi prime minister the president is going to add context to that and urged the national security team to come up with new and innovative ways to wrap up assistance. we are not expecting big announcements on the front but they want to keep the conversation going with the iraqis. they knowo change to defeat isis. >> the world is watching and waiting to see what the strategy would be. the british royal navy rescued 1200 ref fees from the mediterranean. the rescues are part of a multi-national effort to save 6,000 migrants this weekend alone. nic robertson is live in italy with the latest on what is seemingly an epidemic. >> reporter: it is. this wave we are seeing right now, it is the biggest wave in a single weekend this year. look at the numbers overall. about 100,000 migrants picked up in the mediterranean. compare it to the same time last year 50,000 half the number. we know the british will be docking here in the next couple hours. it began the rescue in the early hours sunday morning off the coast of libya. they were called to a boat in distress. when they got there, 15 vessels were in distress. a couple big helicopters were involved in the recovery mission as well. but, the vessel that is the people were in staggering when you learn the details. some of them were inflatable rubber dinghies. they were inflatable rubber dinghies designed for perhaps 20 people. in some cases had close to 100 people on board. you can only imagine, whoever puts them out to sea in vessels like that it's a very callous act. for the efforts of the british, jerman italian, swedish, their fate could be far worse. on board that british ship ten pregnant women, we are told. many children as well. this is typical of what we are seeing. we are told fleeing syria, egypt, libya, nigeria and pakistan. it's a massive influx. that is a big concern for europe right now. alisyn? >> it shows how desperate they are. thank you for that. a major event in turkey. the president's ruling party losing majority in parliament. he was hoping for a big victory to change the constitution and give himself greater powers. now he thooz work to build a coalition instead. police under fire. administrative leave after responding to calls about teens using a community pool without permission. what happens next is disturbing to say the least. >> get on the ground. i told you to stay! get on the ground. >> kids having fun or chaos? this scene in mckinney, texas over the weekend have some calling for this officer to be disciplined for use zing excessive force. the seven minute video shows the situation out of control. the officer seen wrestling up 14-year-old girl in a swimsuit to the ground. he then pulls his firearm on two unarmed boys before turning his attention back to the girl. >> on your face! >> the officer has both knees on her back. >> the officer was overzealous. these are children. they have to be able to handle things in a better manner than this. >> in response to the video, mckinney police said -- >> a formal investigation has been started. the officer has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation. >> just terrible. just terrible. these kids were barefoot in bathing suits, unarmed. >> every kid has snuck into a pool or stayed too late or stayed at the ball diamond longer than they were supposed to. that seems completely overzealous. >> you don't see the police just backing the officer. he is on administrative leave. pulling the weapon is the biggest concern. if you don't address the training the community policing that goes into a different way of persuasion. you have trouble both ways. the cops get challenged in ways that is wrong. you saw the two kids who didn't like what he was doing to the girl. they moved up on him. that's going to make an officer nervous and make him feel like he has to draw his weapon. kids running everywhere. there's a problem. >> training not to escalate from the police officers side. how to deescalate it. >> you don't want to say this is the norm but you have to make it happen less. you have to show it's unacceptable. that's why video, from what i have seen so far, i don't see a downside to it. there is severe weather heading to the east coast. let's get to meteorologist chad myers for a look at the forecast. >> i see storms that could have hail wind lots of lightning and maybe a tornado or two from pennsylvania to arkansas today. in places that we have high population density, not west texas and eastern colorado where there's 100 people per square mile. we are talking thousands of people millions of people in the way of the storms that fire up later today. here is where we are now. the storms go through columbus and cincinnati around noon or 2:00 and fire up in the heat of the day. this is when things get going around 6:00. if you see storms if you hear thunder, get inside. the storms could pack a punch. >> thanks so much for that warning. back to the stunning escape of two convicted murderers from a new york state maximum security prison. authorities searching for matt and sweat who tunnelled to freedom friday night. joining us now is governor andrew cuomo. thanks for being on "new day." >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. >> we understand you took a tour of their escape route. tell us what you saw. >> it was really unbelievable. if it was a movie plot you would say it was overdone. they cut through the back wall of the cell which is more than a quarter inch steel plate, out into a cat walk. from the cat walk they shimmied down six stories to a tunnel that carried pipes followed the pipes along, broke through a double brick wall cut into a 24-inch pipe shimmied their way through the steam pipe cut another hole so they could exit it and cut their way out through a manhole. so this was very sophisticated. they had equipment they shouldn't have had access to that's clear. but the first order of business is getting them back. these are really dangerous, desperate men. they are killers. we have all sorts of personnel deployed. we are offering a $100,000 reward 1-800-give-tip. we want them back. then we will piece together how they accomplished this. there's no doubt, in my opinion, they needed equipment they wouldn't have had. they had to have the assistance of someone. >> when you say they had to have the assistance of someone, you mean on the inside? your latest thinking is there was a guard or prison official who helped them? >> you have three basic types of employees in a prison. you have the correction officers the guards civilian employees and private contractors who come in to do private contracting work. this facility was 1865. it was a very old facility. you have a lot of construction going on. i would be shocked if a guard was involved. that's putting it mildly. but, we are looking at the civilian employees and the private contractors to see if possibly a civilian employee or contractor was assisting in this escape. they wouldn't have had the equipment on their own, that's for sure. >> by the way, they put dumbies in their bed. that is as hollywood as it gets. their escape wasn't caught for hours. are you looking at better head checks now? >> it's an interesting question. there's a two-hour every two hours, they do a bed check during the middle of the night. now, they don't wake everyone up every two hours. it's a relatively darkened state. so these dumbies were in the bed with the blankets pulled up wearing a sweatshirt and hoody, which is very common in that prison and they just assume that they were in the bed. the alternative is to wake everyone up every two hours, which isn't the best option either. it's one of the things we have to look at. this prison 1865 maximum security, has never had an escape before believe it or not. this is the first escape from the maximum security portion of the prison. it is extraordinary in that account. >> when they popped out of the manhole and they were free is there surveillance video from the neighborhood or nisource of nearby stores of these guys? >> no this is a rural community. you are about 25 miles from the canada border northern new york. the prison is basically the largest facility. the manhole cover was a good block and a half from the prison. it's a relatively quiet area once you get away from the prison. this was probably somewhere in the middle of the night. so they weren't seen. we are now looking in the immediate area because they could still be in the immediate area. we are looking in canada. one of the people had experience in mexico. they could be headed down south. they could be literally anywhere in the country now. they are really dangerous individuals. that's why we are going to the extent we are going through. that's what we want to accomplish first. >> they are heinous criminals, what they have done in the past. one shot a police officer, one killed his boss and dismembered him. how are you assuring the public of their safety in that area today? >> well in the immediate area we have several hundred police and law enforcement personnel. we have aircraft -- if you are in the immediate area alisyn you feel safe. there are people all over. but, can i assure people in the rest of the state? no. we have two dangerous, possibly armed individuals who are on the loose. they are killers. they are not going to want to go back i can assure you that. it's not just new york it could be anywhere in the country now. that's why we are going to the extent that we are going to. that's why we offer the reward $100,000 which is very significant. i don't believe the state has ever done that before because these people are truly dangerous. we want them back and want to understand how it happened and to the extent anyone else was involved we want to know who was involved and make sure that lesson is learned, also. >> let's hope the $100,000 reward brings them in. thank you so much. nice to talk to you. >> thank you for having me. by the way, we are working on a long-term journalism piece where we are looking for a reporter to go in a prison and stay there a year or so and do an expose on prison life. >> i knew it. >> if you have any suggestions, any suggestions we are open to it. >> i have a suggestion governor. >> do you? >> yes, i have somebody close to me that i think would be very great at that assignment. i knew you weren't going to let us go without taking a shot at chris. >> that's good news. good news. >> one year two years. >> got it. >> three years, five years. >> 45 year sentence so far and i have made it. the problem is they haven't built a prison that can hold me yet. we are going to take a break now. a freak accident at boston's fenway park that nearly killed a spectator. pieces of a shattered bat flew into the stands and hit her in the head. whether or not it says something about the nature of the game. there's a lot of history here as well. we'll take you through it. ram. i did. in fact, i'm earning plenti points right now. but you're not doing anything right now. lily? he's right. sign up, and you could earn plenti points just for being a wireless customer. in the meantime, i just kick back and watch the points roll in. where did you get those noodles? at&t cafeteria. you mean the break room... at&t - the only wireless carrier to be a part of plenti now when you add a new phone line to your wireless plan you get 5,000 plenti points to use in lots of places. did you know that meeting your daily protein needs actually helps to support your muscle health? 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do we do it the right way at the ballpark? i'm saying that in a if mill yar way. we have been asking this question for a long time. christine brennan is a sports columnist at usa today. great to have you on the show. i remember being in law school and you learned about how on the back of the ticket there is an assumption of risk waiver that nobody reads because of the nature of the game and some inherent danger right? >> absolutely. you go to a game to have fun with family and friends, people are chatting on their cell phones texting, taking pictures. so many people are not paying attention to what's going on around them. the ballparks are built to bring fans as close as they can. those are the big ticket tickets. that's the $400 ticket. so there's that sense there, i guess fans have i'm going to be safe. this is fun. i'm in a good place. then this happens, chris and it shakes every reality we have about the situation. >> is there any reason to look at fenway and say there's something they weren't doing that they are supposed to do? they have the netting in place. they are supposed to have a guard up. once you get up to the baselines, it's open. do we know that anything was done wrong here? >> no. nothing was done wrong. it's standard operating procedure to have the netting behind home plate, but not the dugouts. in japan, the netting goes to the dugouts and past the dugouts. that is the conversation major league baseball is having. the players are saying we need to have the netting go all the way past the dugouts, to the dugouts or past them. i think that's a great idea personally. how is that going to fly with the fans who want to get that close experience and be near the players? that's one big issue. the other one that comes to mind public announcement. the notion you do not hear enough about watch out for baseballs. i would do it in the first inning fourth and seventh inning continuing the announcements over the p.a. to ea mind fans about the dangers of sitting closer to the field. >> that's smart. it's recognizing what we already know. what day was it this week i think yesterday, one of the people at the golf tournament got hit in the head with a shank drive. obviously, we know about the risk that happens when you are at the car races, you know? it goes on with some of these more you know volatile sports where anything is moving at any rate of speed. it's about awareness. we know these things and you can only do so much to protect in an obvious way. it comes down to state of mind. >> without a doubt, chris. if i were a fan going to a game i was that close. i must admit, it's uncomfortable sitting that close to home plate. it is a jarring thing. if i were a fan, moving forward, understanding this incident and how tough it is and best wishes to her to continue to recover, i would say we have to keep an eye on every single pitch. there's no notion we are having a fun time and we can turn our heads. you have to watch every single play. if you are with kids tough keep your eyes on the game. golf too. tough watch every shot. i'm amazed at the tunnel of fans the gallery forms around tiger woods when he's out in the woods, which he is these days. they stand there. the faith they put in athletes is extraordinary. fans need to be more individual lent. >> i remember when they started moving the seats up at the basketball arenas everybody wanted to get as close as they could. i remember watching charles barkley crush a guy as he went in to save a fall. you are saying nets along the baselines, warnings announced and ushers actively reminding. they are great ideas. the only one i will push back on if you take away the ability of high ticket price payers to not get balls, you will get pushback. >> you are right about that. i do think the ushers could be reminding people. they see people chatting away not looking at the game i would say hey, i want to remind you of what happened in boston. that's going to be a wonderful thing to tell fans moving forward. >> we know about the risk. look at the back of the ticket. thank you very much. >> thank you. it was all pork shops and harleys in iowa over the weekend. who came out looking best? 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(laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. there's a lot to talk about today "nightly news" inside politics. let's get to it with john king. hi john. >> let's get to it. let's go inside politics. first, let's do the show. there was a lot in boone, iowa the roast and ride. there's governor scott walker of wisconsin. a lot of color, a lot of picture taking. lindsey graham the candidates mike huckabee rick perry as well. a little bit of tell. dr. carson there. scott walker did an interview with abc. he talked about his opposition to same-sex marriage. he was asked a question about boots on the ground in syria or iraq. let's listen. >> i don't think we should ever send a message to our foes as to how far we are willing to go. >> you would not rule out -- >> i would not rule out boots on the ground. >> a full invasion of iraq? >> if the national interests of this country are at risk that's the standard of what we do for military engagement. >> this is going to be without a doubt, a question as we watch the republicans get closer to the debates. >> seems like we are headed toward a foreign policy election. things are untable in the middle east. scott walker is inexperienced in this area. as governor of wisconsin you are not dealing with it. maybe some but not like a former secretary of state. they are questions he's going to have to answer. they are not what he wants his campaign to focus on now. we saw him in the interview in his leather jacket and jeans. he's trying to cultivate this regular guy image talking about national terrorism. >> at the moment we don't have a front-runner. at the moment the leader in iowa. he's ahead by a few points from neighboring wisconsin. if he can come out of iowa with a win, walker's got a slight early favoritism here. >> he does. there's a lot of interest in him for sure. saying he doesn't rule out ground forces endures him to conservative voters in both states republicans nationwide who are concerned about this. it puts him in a separate camp from others. lindsey graham is probably in that i would send troops camp. others are on the fence. >> rand paul of course. >> who wouldn't do it at all. you have 20 flavors. it helps to see them splitting up along different lines. >> important to listen to the policy differences. some are big, some not so big. another issue you don't hear republicans talking about is climate change. listen to lindsey graham of south carolina. he's another of 15. we have ten official candidates. lindsey graham says yes, there is climate change. listen to him on "state of the union." >> yes, i do absolutely. when 90% of the doctors tell you you have a problem, do you listen to the one? i believe the co2 emission problem is hurting our environment. >> i don't suspect the other 15 candidates or 14 are going to run up to him and pat him on the back there. >> i don't think so. he is taking a position that wasn't all that uncommon for republicans. there were a number of republicans ten years ago or less. >> john mccain in 2008. >> lindsey graham backed efforts to regulate greenhouse and gas emissions. he has a long record on it. it's difficult to pivot too far away from that. not too much debate in the republican field. certainly not on the republican side. >> maybe the general election. >> maybe. that is a real challenge for them. interesting to see that he's willing to say this. guys from florida, again, back to bush and rubio, both in a state that is affected by this. they won't go that far. bush raised concerns about the possibility they are fibbing. very interesting to see graham stick his neck out on this one. >> trying to be different. try to carve out your niche. you want to be different. let's look at polling. we are sitting around in june waiting for supreme court decisions. we are waiting to see if the supreme court will say same-sex marriage is a national right. let's look at the poll on this issue. 49% of americans trust the supreme court on this issue. it's divided about whether they think the justices should make the decision. this is fascinating. this is moving faster than anything i have seen in my life. should same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry? 63% of americans say yes. in august of 2010 it was 49%. if you go back it's lower. this is like a snowball coming down a hill. >> unbelievable how they are changing on the issue. it's difficult for the republicans. the slice of their party they need to win is the party nominee has a different view than the general population. so you know i think scott walker sort of moderated this position before. he's been able to play both sides and see if he can successfully do that in a primary and a general. it's a tough one for republicans. >> the court says yes, this is a national right, does that quote, unquote, help the republicans whose personal opinion is no there should not be same-sex marriage. the justices ruled my personal opinion is this. as president, the court. >> some say yes. others say no. let's open it up to the states to decide for themselves. he said on sunday to abc, ted cruz put forth legislation already. some of them will say it's been decided. others are going to push for this. they understand the most active primary base of the republican support opposed same-sex marriage. >> george w. bush closed his election using this eissue. the times have changed. you have been spending a lot of time with jeb bush. he was up in maine for mom's birthday. happy birthday to barbara bush. sometimes he says i'm a bush sometimes he tries to escape that and say i'm my own guy. he went across the border to new hampshire. listen to him say hey, new hampshire, i love you. >> i have a passion for service. i get to tell my story. people can challenge it. this is the way to campaign. get outside your comfort zone. i don't think we should be campaigning in little protective bubbles. in new hampshire, you can't do that. >> breaking new grounds there. good choice. that's the first place senator barack obama went for a cup of coffee back in the day, 2006. >> two things about that a, it's 45 minutes south. this is a guy who really likes going to church and really wants to be president. if you are willing to leave the family vacation to do that. this is an area of the state they think they can do well in. going on a sunday with mrs. bush in tow, a nice subtle gesture saying i'm here i'm not too far away. i have local roots. >> he needs to win somewhere. >> given how he's playing in iowa they are taking a wait and see approach. we'll go in if we think there's room. there hasn't been so far. he needs to make a strong showing in new hampshire. >> 20 plus candidates before he showed up. it's crowded there. >> if you want to meet a presidential candidate, sit in that coffee shop. a happy weekend inside politics family. we are going to put up this. tasha got married over the weekend. she's been at my side most of the last decade. >> my goodness. >> stuck her hand in a lot of blenders for me over the years. i am great for her support. >> what a beautiful bride. >> they are going on a great trip i'm helping out a bit. they are going around the world. she may not come back. >> she'll come back. congratulations, a wonderful way to end "inside politics." thanks so much. two of josh duggar's sisters are speaking out. you are going to hear what they are saying now. next. when broker chris hill stays at laquinta and fires up free wi-fi, with a network that's now up to 5 times faster than before you know what he can do? 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>> it's hard to comment exactly what happened with the family and the daughters. you can't help but feel bad that some way, this is all in the public eye, a big, very personal experience. there's a lot of unusual things about this case. the publicity, the fame of the family the reality show. there's also some common things that happened with family sexual abuse. part of it sometimes, is loyalty with the family trying to down play it wanting to move on wishing this didn't happen. those are all typical things. >> i think one of the things we heard the girls say is they feel they have been revictimized all over again. the fact is our system generally, does protect the victims in a situation. clearly, the system failed here. they weren't protected. do you think heads need to roll? >> it's a great question. you know one of the things the victims struck there's so much that struck me about both the parents and the victims. the doctor's right, there are a lot of thing that is are different about the case but so many that are common. one of the thing that is struck me the parents acknowledged they had this information that it was happening, it was getting worse, it was progressing from sleeping attacks to when kids were awake to attacks on top of the clothes to under the clothes. you have a child as young as 5. they didn't intervene, michaela and get the girls therapy until four years later. they didn't intervene and get josh clinical intervention. clearly, you have a 15-year-old doing this kind of molesting of a 5-year-old and they also knew about molestation outside of the house, michaela. so to me locking the doors, as a means to protect your children is not a way to handle it. back to the question about the victims, though, i think, in their mind they processed it in a way. this is a guess, that down plays it. i had an incident that wasn't similar in fourth grade, it was a kid who was older. i down played it in my mind. years later, i truly acknowledged it happened and i told my parents. i bet these two gals are certainly feeling a huge gap between how they internalize izeized it when it happened and now with the media scrutiny. it should be the duggar family and the parents in how they handled it. >> what the parents knew when they knew and why they didn't tell authorities. how would you counsel a family in a situation like this? >> if i was called in at the time there needs to be an eval evaluation. there needs to be an evaluation risk of the boy and risk to perpetrate again. the situation where it's the most risk what risk were the girls in and what safeguards should be put in place based on the assessment. the other, at the time is what is the impact on the girls? you need someone objective. parents can't make an objective assessment. >> they certainly can't. a lot of people are bringing that into question now. we'll see how it unfolds. we hope the girls in the family and outside the family get the help they need. thank you. mel, thank you for sharing your own personal story. we thank you for that. your bravery is quite obvious to all of us. what is your take? tweet us #newdaycnn or facebook.com/newday. apple's annual developer's conference kicks off today. what does apple have up its sleeve this year? we'll tell you. ♪ (vo) you can pass down a subaru forester. 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