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CNNW New Day May 21, 2015

Societies there as well. Quite stunning to behold those ruins. They may not be there if isis do what theyve done in the past but there has been substantial group theres now a very modern human crisis emerging 100 soldiers killed overnight as isis swept in taking the airport there. A prison and Intelligence Headquarters were told. Unclear the fate of the prisoners, potentially theyve been killed reports of executions in the streets as well. Potentially 100,000 people in that city. A long telegraphed capacity for isis to move in but seems the regime have pulled back. Its a vital moment alisyn because this is the first time that isis who havent really messed with the Syrian Regime quite some time focusing on other rebels the first time theyve moved against the regime Population Center and this does potentially give them a straight highway move toward the capital damascus run by the regime. Troubling indeed isis still having that momentum. This is a vital moment as you say, nick. Thanks so much. Well check back in with you. Across the border with iraq isis still destroying ancient artifacts there. Arwa damon joins us with the latest live from baghdad. Good morning, arwa. Reporter good morning, alisyn. And that is why the concern for palmyra is so sharp because exactly what we saw isis do when it took over a series of ancient sites here in iraq showing complete disregard of the value they hold for civilization for humanitys history. Isis not just taking over palmyra but also making strategic significant gains in al Anbar Province with the capture of ramadi. The main front lines are located around an area where there is a military base and its located right between ramadi and fallujah both under isis control. We spoke to an Army Commander there. He said they were beefing up their positions in the various towns towards ramadi to ensure that isis cant advance from ramadi to baghdad but they were still waiting for more reinforcements for Additional Paramilitary shia fighters. Those shia fighters backed by iran controversial but highly effective, also waiting for the campaign to arm the sunni tribes to begin. We additionally spoke to the Deputy Governor of al Anbar Province who said at this stage at least the Iraqi Government is taking anbar seriously. Hed been warning of the fall of ramadi for months. Now he says the government is beginning to take action not necessarily because its worried for anbar but because if those other areas and anbar fall to isis that means the terrorist organization would be at baghdads doorstep chris. Arwa thank you very much for the reporting and the analysis. Lets bring in now general Stanley Mcchrystal the former commander of International Security forces in afghanistan also the author of the new book team of teams new rules of engagement for complex world. Now, this book is very valuable because it sets up as a reminder of how the u. S. Found success in iraq and afghanistan and at the same time a nod to what we may have to do differently right now. Great to have you on new day. Thanks for being with us. As the situation is evolving or devolving depending how you want to put it theres a new call for boots on the ground. Governor pataki said yesterday and echoed by Lindsey Graham and others do you think its time for a strategy shift . I think its time for a strategy. Im not sure most americans or people in the world are sure what our strategy is. But the wider issue is whos fighting against isis. You say we are. You say Bashar Al Assad is fighting against them obviously iranians are helping, the government of iraq shia militia, the United States is helping, some of the persian gulf countries are helping, but its a group of people. Napoleon said when asked the best opponent he said a coalition. When you say a team of teams youre talking about an organization in which the relationships between constituent teams resemble those individuals on a single team. Explain that. Its like the fingers of the handmade into a fist right . Exactly. We know the story of the 2004 mens olympic basketball team. Best basketball players in the world, a bronze medal outcome. And so if you dont really have common purpose and trust within a small team you cant get there. But when you try to scale a team particularly when youre putting National Efforts and opposition groups and all youre breaking down silos across cultural lines, across different equities, fears, personalities. Which is really hard, but its essential. So you also say in the book page 32 to win we had to change. Now, is that being misapplied in this idea of lets put the best fiegtders in the world, the u. S. Men and women, the fighting men and women on the ground have them take out the camps and do strategic attacks and get on the ground and win the battle where it needs to be won. Is that oversimplifying . I think it is. Its like building a house. If you bring the greatest plumber in the world and the greatest electrician and greatest carpenter, but if theyre not operating on a single blueprint youre not going to get the right house you want. I think thats the challenge here. Some of the treasuretrove of the attack that wound uptaking down Osama Bin Laden is his insistence Osama Bin Ladens, of saying stop with this we want a state. Try to crush our main enemys power, attack the embassies in north africa. But theyre not doing that. Isis is obviously not following the advice of the great bad guy whos now gone. What does that tell you . To be honest im not sure what it tells us because we always expected al qaeda at large and now isis to go after things which would psychologically effect us now to a degree they are they take ramadi but those kinds of attacks around the world that strike our nerves they havent done near as much of that as we expected and frankly im not sure we know why. Now theres a big political debate going on here. Candidates getting tripped up by would you go to iraq would you not have gone to iraq. Thats politics. But this analysis of why we are where we are when you look at the last six years and the strong american desire which is followed through by government to get out of the iraq how big a part of the problem do you see that move as . Well i think its certainly part of the problem. But im not worried about blamed anybody. The key thing is its the minds of the iraqis and people in the region. What we have done puts thoughts in those minds and they act on those thoughts. Afghans were always worried america was going to leave because we left in 1989. I think the iraqis after we left in 2010 now have grave doubts about it. And that effects their behavior. Look how the saudis are behaving now. So establishing our credibility over time is essential. Now, when you look at the situation one of the surprising things in the book is that to me and to many of us covering it its like i dont know what youre going to do here. You see a pretty clear through line of what needs to be done. And you see the situation right now as fairly manageable if done the right way. What needs to be done . Well i do think its manageable if done the right way. But i didnt say it was easy. Building a team of the different gulf states of syria, of iraq and all the different stake holders in this is going to be hard. It takes a broad view and going to take a lotd of work. Diplomatic work military work but i think thats essential. I dont think you can get there until you form some kind of an Effective Coalition with a agreed upon strategic framework. Some kind of outcome. Where are we trying to get to . If isis disappears tomorrow what do we want the region to look like . And we wont dictate it. Thats going to be worked out with all the players. One of the lessons that you pull out through the book is about how again, its not just pushing the book this is how we got to a position of what was deemed success. You say they keep changing. They dont change in a way that makes sense conventionally. Its almost they change through experience in the moment. What did that tell you . And what was the remedy . If you look at it isis is the same way. Al qaeda was not this centrally controlled brilliant entity. It was just constantly Adapting Network of associations. That allowed them to just be almost completely adaptable to any area responding whatnot it also defied the ability to go after one or two key leaders or strategic notes and have them collapse. What that tells me is were in a complex world where traditional almost mechanical approaches to something march armies forward on a map and take terrain is no longer applicable. Youve got to have this organically adaptable approach to things. Do you believe there is the resolve on the part of these people who are fundamental aspects of a successful coalition to do what they need to do to win . Do they care enough about anything outside their own borders . Do they feel as strongly about extremism as they would need to to have this kind of existential battle . Thats a great question because right now this is asymmetric warfare, but its asymmetric commitment by isis. Nobody else has been as committed. So we are going to have to raise that level of resolve for all the players. Until we do that somebody like isis who really is focused on what they want very narrowly is going to have a big advantage. I mean, a lot of guys in your branch of the world say we saw what happened with jordan thats the way this part of the world is. Unless you come and punch them in the nose and they feel there may be another punch coming and they have to stand up for themselves they dont go fight other peoples fights. Is that the reality . I think theres a lot of reality to that. I think people are happy to step back and what happened somewhere else as long as it doesnt effect them. I think america runs into that as well. Theres a desire its over there. But the worlds changed. Nothing is very far away anymore. So i think weve got to take a much more broad view. Now, i think its fair criticism that when we have a big move like ramadi the media can give it a little bit more juice in terms of what it means. But when you look at it what do you see as a timeframe of how long this will take and how we should see swings like what were seeing right now . Yeah. This is new. This is a little different, but remember al qaeda, we fought them for six or eight years to actually beat them down. I think isis is going to take quite a long time. When they control terrain like they do ramadi two things happen. One, they get control and theyve got the opportunity to wipe out the people in opposition to them. We talk about the awakening that happened in 2007. There was an earlier awakening that al qaeda slapped down and killed a bunch of people. That made the sunni leaders in the region very very skiddish. Thats going to happen again here. And so its going to tamp down the idea or some of the enthusiasm for people in the region to support their own government. So thats a danger. I think the other thing though is when you have a psychological blow like ramadi two things happen. One, the government of iraq and the whole world is sort of shuddered and we begin to wonder if isis is beatable. Sure they are. It may also like a spring compress people and give a bit more resolve. Finally weve got to get very serious. And i think thats the hopeful outcome. And youre saying until that coalition is in place dont be so quick to throw u. S. Troops in there. Thats not the quick remedy. General mcchrystal thanks for the new book and thank you for being on new day. Appreciate it. Senator rand paul yielding the floor after a more than tenhour plea to reign in the nsa. Congress also up against a deadline on other key legislation. Legislators go on holiday recess this afternoon. Our chief Congressional Correspondent dana bash brings us all of this from washington. In fact with rand paul theyre talking about filibuster in quotes right, dana . Thats right. Regardless whats technically he certainly made a splash his calling card in the senate and now on the republican president ial campaign trail has been this issue. What makes him different than any other republican candidate is his staunch opposition to the nsa Surveillance Program. So with the law governing these secret wiretapping program set to expire june 1st he seized the spotlight by taking the senate floor. There comes a time in history of nations when fear and complacency allow power to accumulate and liberty and privacy to suffer. That time is now. And i will not let the patriot act, the most unpatriotic of acts go unchallenged. Now, rand pauls president ial campaign was not shy about using this as a significant tool. They were raising money off of it. And they used it to energize their base and supporters on social media. People were posting pictures of themselves up against tv screens or watching with ipads with pauls talking on the floor. Now, his office is boasting about the fact that he successfully delayed this wiretapping perhaps until the weekend. Thats still to be determined. Meanwhile, alisyn theres a whole other very important issue were going to see on the senate floor later today, a top priority for president obama. And that is trade. Theres going to be a key vote on whether they can move forward on the trade bill. He of course says its critical to helping him make deals that he says will help the u. S. Economy. But it could very well be blocked by members of his own party who argue the opposite that free trade hurts american workers. So interesting to see in both of these issues people crossing party lines. Absolutely. Strange bedfellows dana thanks so much for that. Well a major break in the case in that murder mystery of a wealthy washington, d. C. Family. New clues leading authorities to identify a suspect who remains at large this morning all thanks to dna left on pizza inside the home. Cnns joe johns is there with the very latest. What are we learning joe . Reporter alisyn the details just keep getting worse in this grisly crime just walking distance from the Vice President s house. Now authorities are looking for a 34yearold man with a long record of mostly petty crimes. Only this time the charge is murder. A bizarre twist in the brutal quadruple murderarson mystery in an upscale d. C. Neighborhood. Police identifying a suspect in the slayings of a prominent ceo, his wife their young son and housekeeper. 34yearold Daron Dylon Wint now wanted on firstdegree murder charges and armed. The break in the case coming not from the grainy Surveillance Video released by police days ago, but according to the Washington Post from dna found on the crust of a Dominos Pizza that had been ordered to the house as the victims were being held. 46yearold savvas a ceo of a Company Called american iron works, his 47yearold wife amy, a washington philanthropist and socialite, their 10yearold son phillip and their 57yearold housekeeper all found dead in their mansion that was set on fire. Their blue porsche that went missing found ditched in a Maryland Church parking lot where it was torched. More details of their gruesome murder is now emerging. A source telling cnn the victims were bound with duct tape and held captive by the perpetrators with signs of torture to the youngest victim. Meanwhile, the Washington Post reporting that one of the employees came to the mansion and dropped off a package with 40,000 inside. The assailant making off with the cash. The case riddling investigators. Hours before the home was torched one of the familys other housekeepers received a bizarre text from amy reading in part i am making sure you do not come today. No motive for the killings has been released but Police Believe money was a prime factor. Police are asking for the publics help in locating the suspect. They did search his last known address last night. Chris. All right, joe, thank you for bringing us the latest. Were going to stay on that for sure. We have a cnn exclusive for you. Were the only Network Allowed to ride along as a u. S. Surveillance plane overflew chinese outposts in the contested South China Sea. The chinese navy ordered the plane out of the area eight times in english to avoid a misunderstanding. Military aircraft this is chinese navy. You are approaching our military alert zone. That bit of drama is not the headline. What matters is china is building thousands of acres of manmade islands in the South China Sea complete with helipads and fortifications. Jim investigators still combing through the cell phone records of that engineer of the doomed amtrak train. Theyre trying to match timestamps on brandon bostians phone. Records show calls were made and Text Messages were sent from the phone that day of the deadly derailment but it remains unclear if he was on the phone during the accident. Well folks, its a wrap. David letterman signing off for the last time after 33 years, more than 6,000 shows on late night. His last show filled with highlights of legendary career and a bevy of stars gathered together for one final top ten list. And 6,028 shows and he ran the numbers and he said it works out to about eight minutes of laughter. David lettermans final sendoff full of the funny mans selfdep ria kating humor. President s past and present ushering letterman into retirement. Letterman is retiring. Youre just kidding, right . The latenight legend walking on stage one last time to a fitting threeminute standing ovation from a packed ed sullivan theater. Then the final allstar top ten. Its our friends here at the late show. Top ten things ive always wanted to say to dave. Everyone from jerry seinfeld. Dave i have no idea what ill do when you go off the air. You know i just thought of something. Ill be fine. To bill murray. Dave ill never have the money i owe you. I cant tell you how flattering embarrassing and gratifying it has a

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